Over Hyped?

Achrisos

Every game has some sort of grind that keeps players going; whether thats PvP or PvE...

 

Yes GW1 stopped making expansions a few years back but thats because they said they are working on GW2 and so there wanted to focus all their resources towards that. Otherwise, i think the frequency of their products was decent. Do not forget that there was a great deal of 'mini' events that kept players occupied as well. If ANet can run their servers for GW1 for 5 years and no go bankrupt we can assume that GW2 will be able to run for a while.

 

Do no forget that many players who bought GW1 didnt not buy it when it first came out-and thus when its price was at its highest- but if all the GW1 players decide to go buy GW2 at launch then ANet will maximize its revenues from purchases.

 

I trust that the company is smart enough to know if the system would make money for them or not.

ThomasN7

Far from overhyped but it is going to be a great game. It will deserve every bit of hype it gets. ArenaNet is not one of these mom and pop mmo shops, they know what they are doing.

sassoonss

 

Do the maths yourself

 

Guild Wars has sold over 5 million copies .For $50 each copy approx that totals $250 Million .Add into that all the cash shop sales from PVP packs, skills packs , costume , makeover storage packs etc . I have spent over the years around $50 more on these packs

 

 

Take games like  WAR or AOC which have over 1 million sales that makes it $50 million .Even if we assume that of the last 2 years they have 250K subs that will be around $90 million more ( although we know AOC is around 150K subs only). That still totals around $140 million in best case scenario.

 

 

By far GW has the best money making business plans .When people bought GW for $50 they in a way ensure with no subs that people will spend another $50 on factions + another $50 on nightfall + another $40 on the expansion.

 

Which game apart from WOW has been able to pull this off.

 

I am not planning to buy AOC expansion neither interested in WAR expansion neither AION if they release.

 

GW on the contrary allows to buy stand alone games ( 3 of them) , with no subs + allows to combine them and characters can hope between campaigns.People should give credit to Anet for their business acumen.

 

NCsoft  as a publisher wants to make money they didn’t waste time scrapping Tabula rasa coz it was bleeding.

If they didn’t see $ in GW franchise their wouldn’t have heavily invested it .Also it a ANET person who took over the  mgmt helms at NCSOFT  at the end.

 

GW2 with even $50 or $60 tag will easily in the 1st week sell more than 1 million copies and with the new engine + gameplay introduced they have a financial winner at hand

vulron

Most certainly not, that would be an understatement of a fool. Know the hype before judging it...

Asuran21

It's not really over-hypeing it. Due to the fact that almost everything Arena-net is doing is innovative. They have a new 10-slot skill bar with a system that I have never seen done before. The first 5 skills of your build are determined on the things in your hands, and professions. The other 5 are profession and race skills, and one is a healing skill, and one is an elite. Now elites, unlike in GW1 are designed to infrequently used, and to do massive things. Like one of the racial elites is for an Asuran Character to summon a golem suit to get into and fight with.

The event system also brings something that was once tried before to an extent with WAR's public quests. If your going to another town, you might see an area where pipelines that supply water to the city broke, and civilians are trying to repair them. So you go over there to see what's happening, and some bandits attack. You defend the civilians and pipes, and maybe other players will join in. When those players come to help, more bandits come out to fight. And then when the event is done, everbody that particpated gets Full XP, Credit, and loot. Same with non-event mobs.

The story is also going to be fully customizable. Choosing a faction within your own race in character creation, fears, looks, name, profession. Oh, and yea, another uncommon thing, all Races can be every profession.

 

There ARE reason's to hype this game as big as it's being hyped.

leumasx7

meh, i really don't know if it deserves the hype/ the people i know posted 1's/2's to the other games matching up with it.

Achrisos

IMO while we still lack alot of the info for the game, as a player who has played GW since it was in Alpha testing when i hear about what will be including or changed in GW2 i cant help but be very excited about the potential for GW2. Either way compared to the other games on the list it definitely deserves to be #1

holifeet

Seriously so in my humble opinion.

 

I've seen the videos from Gamescom and I have to say it looks gorgeous, but I have huge doubts.

 

1. They're changing the genre way too much. Watering down the class structure that has been in existence for 10 years+ has put me right off. Everyone being able to heal takes away so much of the tactical and communal nature of the game and it will turn in to a solo fest...not a massively multiplayer experience

2. It looks far too frenetic and will just become a grindy button basher.

3. There is no way, in my opinion, they can keep up with their promise of a trully dynamic world where events will always be different. It would take the largest team of writers and designers I can imagine...unless the world is tiny. Everything has to be scripted and there is only so much than can be done so. I think it's a wild promise.

 

It might be fun for a short while. I will happily state that I think that. I just can not see this game being a long term commitment because it just looks a shallow game based on being eye-catching.

sidhaethe

Originally posted by holifeet

Seriously so in my humble opinion.

 

I've seen the videos from Gamescom and I have to say it looks gorgeous, but I have huge doubts.

 

1. They're changing the genre way too much. Watering down the class structure that has been in existence for 10 years+ has put me right off. Everyone being able to heal takes away so much of the tactical and communal nature of the game and it will turn in to a solo fest...not a massively multiplayer experience

City of Heroes got rid of the necessity of the Holy Trinity years and manages just fine, and GW1 never had a traditional "aggro" system and also did okay. Tactics don't have to be applied using the same underlying metrics. Also note that there are 5-man dungeons that will be challenging in their own way (not Holy Trinity way), that we haven't yet seen. Hold out for more info.

2. It looks far too frenetic and will just become a grindy button basher.

This. Is. DEMO!!! Or, you saw footage of a bunch of people who had half an hour to learn to play the game, not playing it very well, with scaled-down events and boss encounters to ensure people would have access to the most content as quickly as possible in the demo time. It's been established that dodge rolling uses up energy, and so rolling around hurling spells willy-nilly won't be a valid strategy for most people for one.

3. There is no way, in my opinion, they can keep up with their promise of a trully dynamic world where events will always be different. It would take the largest team of writers and designers I can imagine...unless the world is tiny. Everything has to be scripted and there is only so much than can be done so. I think it's a wild promise.

ArenaNet agrees with you: they said they'd need 100+ more developers in order to create enough events in the world for people to participate in if no events ever cycled back around and could be eventually repeated. That's why most events will cycle back to their "starting" state over time (hours for some, days or months for others, or weather-triggered, or player triggered, etc.).

It might be fun for a short while. I will happily state that I think that. I just can not see this game being a long term commitment because it just looks a shallow game based on being eye-catching.

That's up to you, of course. People are still playing GW1, though, and there are something like 1500+ events in GW2 as compared to 232 quests in Guild Wars Prophecies (for example). If that same number applies for Factions, Nightfall, and Eye of the North (and I doubt it), there are nearly twice as many dynamic events in GW2 than there were quests in GW1 across all three chapters and one expansion. And that's not including PvP, minigames, and the personal story.

Jimmy562

Originally posted by Asuran21

It's not really over-hypeing it. Due to the fact that almost everything Arena-net is doing is innovative. They have a new 10-slot skill bar with a system that I have never seen done before. The first 5 skills of your build are determined on the things in your hands, and professions. The other 5 are profession and race skills, and one is a healing skill, and one is an elite. Now elites, unlike in GW1 are designed to infrequently used, and to do massive things. Like one of the racial elites is for an Asuran Character to summon a golem suit to get into and fight with.

The event system also brings something that was once tried before to an extent with WAR's public quests. If your going to another town, you might see an area where pipelines that supply water to the city broke, and civilians are trying to repair them. So you go over there to see what's happening, and some bandits attack. You defend the civilians and pipes, and maybe other players will join in. When those players come to help, more bandits come out to fight. And then when the event is done, everbody that particpated gets Full XP, Credit, and loot. Same with non-event mobs.

The story is also going to be fully customizable. Choosing a faction within your own race in character creation, fears, looks, name, profession. Oh, and yea, another uncommon thing, all Races can be every profession.

 

There ARE reason's to hype this game as big as it's being hyped.

While they are intresting features, Its still not enough to hype the game as much as people have been. Races being every profession is ok its nothing to hype about. The skillbar thing again is nothing to get hyped up about. The Event system does deserve the hype as well as the story but the event system can go very wrong, it went wrong in WAR and there is no telling if this will be successful or not.

Its an intresting game but it is being over-hyped. People are most likely expecting to much out of this game already. I think it will be a big hit to the people that are following it but not getting to hyped up about it. The people that are saying "Its going to be so epic its unreal!" are, in my opinion, going to be very let down.

Could be wrong of course.

Rivalen

GW2 hype comes from the current "dead" moment on western MMORPGs,  alot of people are on breaks from MMOs due to the lack of alternatives, botched releases and general staleness of the genre.

GW2 promisses alternatives, a good release, inovation and no subscription.

It's preety much setup to get all the western clients that are mildly interested in MMOs.

I have avid sandbox adoring friends that are drooling with GW2 since it has no subscription, hell even friends that don't like mmos are ok with GW2 due to that.

My guess is that it will be the 1st day best selling MMO of all time.

Zeus.CM

Originally posted by Rivalen

My guess is that it will be the 1st day best selling MMO of all time.

I certainly hope so. arenanet's lack of greed should be rewarded!

magestone

Hey man, go play WoW. I heard they added TWO NEW PLAYER CHARACTER SKINS!!!!  I hope that's enough content for you!?

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