Originally posted by JKnight1 I'm not sure what's creepy about it. It's a fictional character after all. It ha sno bearing on the mentality or health of the person behind it. So what, it's a dude behind the chick character? Do not forget, that for the longest time, acting was specifically a male only role. Which meant, the men played the female characters often, and it didn't bother anyone. It continued on that way for much of ancient history, well up into the industrial era. If it bothers you that much, maybe you need to rethink on why? Perhaps there is some issue you havn't come to terms with, maybe you're in the closet (Not saying you are), or something else more socially oriented. It shouldn;t matter what someone plays, as long as they have fun. If it bothers you, mute them.
I am with the OP on classes locked to sex because I tend to prefer tank-type or otherwise in-your-face-DPS melee classes, and some games have those locked to male only. I play them anyway, but I just like a lot of options at character creation all around, so I am going to be mildly annoyed if I don't even get to choose that much. Now on that other topic...
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I am female and I play a mix of female and male characters. Right now, I am playing female characters in WoW, but I am coming off nearly a year of playing 2 different male characters in Jade Dynasty. Would it freak you out to hear my voice over Vent/TS, when what you're seeing in game is a big, broad-shouldered guy? I think the initial "OMG, UR A CHICK!" reaction is funny, but I generally know what I am doing and I'm not overly chatty, so it's something that people get used to really fast and it never comes up again.
The whole in-game sex choice is (generally) just a graphical difference, and it doesn't really tell you anything about the person sitting at the desk. My husband mostly plays girl characters now. He just prefers to look at girls, and he feels people react differently to his (...stupid....) sense of humor when he's on a female character. The former makes me roll my eyes, and the latter is just true. I've seen it in action-- people seem to get annoyed at his in-game chatter when he appears to be male, but they laugh and play along when he appears to be female, even when they know that it is the same person. Playing female characters definitely improves the social aspect of the game for him. The moral of that story may be that you shouldn't underestimate the psychological effect of which arrangement of pixels you choose to play.
I don't think this is a problem with the MMORPG genre. I think people who are overly concerned with how other people want to play might have a problem though.
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I also note this problem has been around for a long time. There were so many times when I played monopoly where someone played the shoe or the thimble, and they weren't a shoe or a thimble at all.
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Originally posted by LadyAlibiMy husband mostly plays girl characters now. He just prefers to look at girls, and he feels people react differently to his (...stupid....) sense of humor when he's on a female character. The former makes me roll my eyes, and the latter is just true. I've seen it in action-- people seem to get annoyed at his in-game chatter when he appears to be male, but they laugh and play along when he appears to be female, even when they know that it is the same person.
Now this is an interesting little piece of information. Not that hard to realise that it works like that and it makes sense, but still enlightening.
So that'd mean that the group dynamic and interaction will be different with a balanced mix of female and male avatars? And it will differ again when the group is all male chars, and all female chars? The mind boggles when it comes to an all-animal group (like all frogloks, or trolls, or all furry kittens)
Funny how things like this work out in reality
Subconsiously our response patterns are different based upon whom we think we're dealing with, apparently, and less upon what the other person is saying or doing.
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I also note this problem has been around for a long time. There were so many times when I played monopoly where someone played the shoe or the thimble, and they weren't a shoe or a thimble at all.
You gotta be careful, there are some sick freaks out there.
Simple MMO Rule to live by: "Women dont play MMO's!, It's all guys!" remember that and ya wont end up hiting on a guy! LOL
Hitting on female characters in game? never. Seriously there is something very creepy/weird about it.
You mean because they may be guys?
Because I have hit on someone I was certain was a female (saw her in RL) and I didnt see anything wrong with that. After all women fall in love with what you say (ears) where as men fall in love with their eyes.
Because I have hit on someone I was certain was a female (saw her in RL) and I didnt see anything wrong with that. After all women fall in love with what you say (ears) where as men fall in love with their eyes.
Atleast thats what Dr. Phil says.
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I don't mind guys playing as girls. It's the ones that do it trying to get money out of people that are annoying - that happened A LOT back in the DAoC days. I've run into quite a few dudes playing girls that openly admitted they do it because more guys give them more free stuff because of it.
I think that's changed though. I'm sure less people give stuff out like that nowadays, but I may be wrong.
Also, I've talked to people in-game for a long period of time that I actually thought was a girl irl, and they actually pretended to be a girl both in-game and irl, and then like a year later is like, "Hey, just letting ya know, I'm a guy." He even cybered with some other dude seriously at times. :P
Some guys take it seriously.
Or like in Secondlife lol *cough* Prostitutes *cough*
imo you can usually tell in many games who the girl avi's piloted by men are, they are usually the ones dressed half naked! ...I mean their avatars
Does not apply to RP'ers though. My first fembot was in old UO, I had multi accounts and she was part of the family And not a secret thing but in a large RP community. RP'ers will dress normal, since they ar RP'ing, and don't play emotional games with non-RP'ers as you ladie hounds think. Seems more strange to pick a female character if not RP'ing me thinks, but not really strange in a strange way
For me its a bit of everything why i choose female toons. I choose male toons as well but for me i find it boring, with the mainstream.
Who can say they dont enjoy watching an attractive female hand people their ass and do a model walk away from the dead corpse? Even if it may be a bit sexist to say, its not the norm to see females being dominate fighters and owning a man. Even though there are those that easily can, in real life or otherwise, its not a common theme and its nice to break from the norm.
Also i like to assign traditional thinkings to my toons, ie- healers being female. Thats not a bad thing or archaic thinking its logical to me. I much have a female doctor then a male doctor, since woman are nurturing life givers. And related to my first point when they break from that traditional role its gratifying lol
The only time i play a man toon is when i go into the traditional role of thinking and play a 'manly' class like a tank. Even though a female tank is more alluring in the long run.
That brings me to the roleplay issue. I will not pretend im a woman, but i wont right out announce to a stranger "hey, just so you know im a dude". If the conversation gets out of hand, which it has on many occasions, i will throw it out there asap to avoid awkward situations. For example one guy i met in game did a couples quest with my female healer. He continued asking me questions like where i live, age, where i work etc, but no asking if i was a guy. It eventually got to where he was promising to buy me a mount that weekend when he gets paid....seriously? I then realized that he was assuming i was female in real life and was hoping to get him a gf or something. He was sadly let down and he soon focused attention on a real life girl and bought her many gifts lol
Pms normally consist of "hey beautiful" or something similar, to which i reply: "thanks bro", they usually get the point. Ends up in a laugh or the "why you playing a girl" question.
No one has to explain themselves to why they play a female toon realistically but people should not be fooled into thinking you are a real life girl. Problems can occur and situations that most people should want to avoid.
Seriously, who cares? If you're out trolling MMOs trying to get laid, you've got bigger problems than anyone playing a cross-gender character possibly could. If you can't separate the avatar on screen from the person behind the keyboard, you've got issues. Does it bug you if the big, buff warrior guy on screen is being played by a scrawny geek? If not, why the hell not?
The only people who get bothered by this sort of thing are the emotionally stunted, immature and probably gender-confused idiots who couldn't get laid RL to save their lives.
I'm completely fine with a guy playing as a girl in an MMO.
I just want to know whether or not you're a guy.
...for two months I assumed my guild leader was girl because he played one, and acted like one.
Everytime he need someone's attention he'd say: "Honeybun, come're and help me."
Then we get on vent and it turns out he's some 46 year old guy...
I also don't like it when they play a girl for the sole reason of getting free stuff.
Also, I do treat the opposite gender differently, that's why I like to know whether or not they're a guy or girl behind that male or female avatar. I mean, I tend to act a bit more polite around female gamers cause they bitch if I swear or something. I had one male avatar start yelling at me because I said fuck, I figured out that it was a she behind the computer. Had I known that, we wouldn't have lost our healer because I'd have held my tongue.
I'm completely fine with a guy playing as a girl in an MMO.
I just want to know whether or not you're a guy.
...for two months I assumed my guild leader was girl because he played one, and acted like one.
Everytime he need someone's attention he'd say: "Honeybun, come're and help me."
Then we get on vent and it turns out he's some 46 year old guy...
I also don't like it when they play a girl for the sole reason of getting free stuff.
Also, I do treat the opposite gender differently, that's why I like to know whether or not they're a guy or girl behind that male or female avatar. I mean, I tend to act a bit more polite around female gamers cause they bitch if I swear or something. I had one male avatar start yelling at me because I said fuck, I figured out that it was a she behind the computer. Had I known that, we wouldn't have lost our healer because I'd have held my tongue.
I agree with you.
If a person wants to play a woman that is fine. If they want to role play a woman that is fine. But if asked they should be up front about their sex, at least if the group will eventually get to vent. Just a common courtesy.
Also, for people who have issues with men playing women, something to keep in mind, there was a time when women actors were illegal and therefore all female parts were played by men. Including Opera.
So it really isn't beyond the pale.
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I'm completely fine with a guy playing as a girl in an MMO.
I just want to know whether or not you're a guy.
...for two months I assumed my guild leader was girl because he played one, and acted like one.
Everytime he need someone's attention he'd say: "Honeybun, come're and help me."
Then we get on vent and it turns out he's some 46 year old guy...
I also don't like it when they play a girl for the sole reason of getting free stuff.
Also, I do treat the opposite gender differently, that's why I like to know whether or not they're a guy or girl behind that male or female avatar. I mean, I tend to act a bit more polite around female gamers cause they bitch if I swear or something. I had one male avatar start yelling at me because I said fuck, I figured out that it was a she behind the computer. Had I known that, we wouldn't have lost our healer because I'd have held my tongue.
Sorry, still ridiculous. Why treat *ANYONE* any differently, it's sexist. As far as I'm concerned, anyone playing a girl to get free stuff is going to be terribly disappointed when dealing with me because I don't give them special consideration based on the extra pixels they get on screen. In fact, anyone who comes running by scantily clad is probably going to get even less consideration from me as I pointedly detest that kind of person.
As for your healer, you had a hypersensitive twit who you were better off without. People need to grow the fuck up and play the damn game. Who cares who is behind the screen, all that matters is what the character can do.
I don't think that there is anything wrong with that. I think that this concept has existed since .hack sign with Tsukasa roleplaying a man when she is a female. You just want an experience that is absolutely different from what you experience in real life and that may require changing genders (for some).
I'm completely fine with a guy playing as a girl in an MMO.
I just want to know whether or not you're a guy.
...for two months I assumed my guild leader was girl because he played one, and acted like one.
Everytime he need someone's attention he'd say: "Honeybun, come're and help me."
Then we get on vent and it turns out he's some 46 year old guy...
I also don't like it when they play a girl for the sole reason of getting free stuff.
Also, I do treat the opposite gender differently, that's why I like to know whether or not they're a guy or girl behind that male or female avatar. I mean, I tend to act a bit more polite around female gamers cause they bitch if I swear or something. I had one male avatar start yelling at me because I said fuck, I figured out that it was a she behind the computer. Had I known that, we wouldn't have lost our healer because I'd have held my tongue.
Sorry, still ridiculous. Why treat *ANYONE* any differently, it's sexist. As far as I'm concerned, anyone playing a girl to get free stuff is going to be terribly disappointed when dealing with me because I don't give them special consideration based on the extra pixels they get on screen. In fact, anyone who comes running by scantily clad is probably going to get even less consideration from me as I pointedly detest that kind of person.
As for your healer, you had a hypersensitive twit who you were better off without. People need to grow the fuck up and play the damn game. Who cares who is behind the screen, all that matters is what the character can do.
I sort of agree but it's like you are saying "I think this and that everyone should follow my mode of thinking" but not allowing for different modes of thinking.
Yes, you shouldn't treat people differently because of gender but some people do. It is what it is.
you might think that the healer who logged off was a hyper sensitive twit and others might say "good for her for not putting up with another's garbage".
And I would say you were both right. There is no one right way. No one gets the corner on the "this is how we should be market". My preference is always for everyone to stay out of everyone's face. I don't hold to the idea that we all have to put up with how everyone acts no matter how they want to act.
I can easily agree with you on the "playign a girl to get free stuff" comment. It's beyond ridiculous and the few times I've had a female avatar try to bat their eyes at me in order to engender greater sympathy for them I summarily said something polite and then went on my way.
I personally don't group with people who I don't like. I don't care how awsome they are. If they act like a prat then no matter the gender I'm out of that party. swearing is not a big deal to me but attitude is. no matter what the gender.
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I'm completely fine with a guy playing as a girl in an MMO.
I just want to know whether or not you're a guy.
...for two months I assumed my guild leader was girl because he played one, and acted like one.
Everytime he need someone's attention he'd say: "Honeybun, come're and help me."
Then we get on vent and it turns out he's some 46 year old guy...
I also don't like it when they play a girl for the sole reason of getting free stuff.
Also, I do treat the opposite gender differently, that's why I like to know whether or not they're a guy or girl behind that male or female avatar. I mean, I tend to act a bit more polite around female gamers cause they bitch if I swear or something. I had one male avatar start yelling at me because I said fuck, I figured out that it was a she behind the computer. Had I known that, we wouldn't have lost our healer because I'd have held my tongue.
Sorry, still ridiculous. Why treat *ANYONE* any differently, it's sexist. As far as I'm concerned, anyone playing a girl to get free stuff is going to be terribly disappointed when dealing with me because I don't give them special consideration based on the extra pixels they get on screen. In fact, anyone who comes running by scantily clad is probably going to get even less consideration from me as I pointedly detest that kind of person.
As for your healer, you had a hypersensitive twit who you were better off without. People need to grow the fuck up and play the damn game. Who cares who is behind the screen, all that matters is what the character can do.
lol... I have never seen a person so judgmental in their non-judgmentalism. Don't "treat *ANYONE* any differently" But don't dress to look pretty or sexy because you detest that kind of person. The healer was a 'hypersensitive twit' because she didn't care for offensive language that was most likely aimed at her? Who cares who is behind the screen? Why do you play social games at all?
I don't roleplay in games, nor am I expecting others to, therefore it doesn't upset me a bit when a male plays a female avatar.
I've done so on occasion, not my preference though and I'm usually found in a male Avatar in most games.
Actually it is if you are NOT roleplaying and you are as a male playing a female avatar that disturbs me. Or atleast it disturbs me as much as a male crossdresser. I dont mind aslong as you're not in my face about it.
People that are freaked out by it should stop trying to pick chicks up online? I think people do it because that is what we see. Go to your local comic book store and look around at all the comics and games with female characters weilding swords and kicking ass. Look on tv and in music, chicks writhing around on the floor in leather bikinis. Look at 90% of the ads on this site, women wearing "armor" that probably wouldn't save them from a wet noodle.
I've played them. Not one time did I do it to "get stuf from people", "Because I am gay" "I get off on looking at a female video game character" or "I secretly wish I was a woman." Actually if you think about it it is probably kind of sexist more than anything else. The majority of the time you see female characters they're healers or casters. The frail beings that stay to the back of the party, cooking, healing and buffing, just making like easier in general while the beefy looking dudes swing their overgrown swords around.= )
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I agree with this guy.
I am with the OP on classes locked to sex because I tend to prefer tank-type or otherwise in-your-face-DPS melee classes, and some games have those locked to male only. I play them anyway, but I just like a lot of options at character creation all around, so I am going to be mildly annoyed if I don't even get to choose that much. Now on that other topic...
*whacks the dead horse a few more times to make sure it's really dead this time*
I am female and I play a mix of female and male characters. Right now, I am playing female characters in WoW, but I am coming off nearly a year of playing 2 different male characters in Jade Dynasty. Would it freak you out to hear my voice over Vent/TS, when what you're seeing in game is a big, broad-shouldered guy? I think the initial "OMG, UR A CHICK!" reaction is funny, but I generally know what I am doing and I'm not overly chatty, so it's something that people get used to really fast and it never comes up again.
The whole in-game sex choice is (generally) just a graphical difference, and it doesn't really tell you anything about the person sitting at the desk. My husband mostly plays girl characters now. He just prefers to look at girls, and he feels people react differently to his (...stupid....) sense of humor when he's on a female character. The former makes me roll my eyes, and the latter is just true. I've seen it in action-- people seem to get annoyed at his in-game chatter when he appears to be male, but they laugh and play along when he appears to be female, even when they know that it is the same person. Playing female characters definitely improves the social aspect of the game for him. The moral of that story may be that you shouldn't underestimate the psychological effect of which arrangement of pixels you choose to play.
I don't think this is a problem with the MMORPG genre. I think people who are overly concerned with how other people want to play might have a problem though.
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I also note this problem has been around for a long time. There were so many times when I played monopoly where someone played the shoe or the thimble, and they weren't a shoe or a thimble at all.
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Now this is an interesting little piece of information. Not that hard to realise that it works like that and it makes sense, but still enlightening.
So that'd mean that the group dynamic and interaction will be different with a balanced mix of female and male avatars? And it will differ again when the group is all male chars, and all female chars? The mind boggles when it comes to an all-animal group (like all frogloks, or trolls, or all furry kittens)
Funny how things like this work out in reality
Subconsiously our response patterns are different based upon whom we think we're dealing with, apparently, and less upon what the other person is saying or doing.
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Yes it is but there is a big difference between roleplaying a game as one and putting up a forum avatar .
You gotta be careful, there are some sick freaks out there.
You mean because they may be guys?
Because I have hit on someone I was certain was a female (saw her in RL) and I didnt see anything wrong with that. After all women fall in love with what you say (ears) where as men fall in love with their eyes.
Atleast thats what Dr. Phil says.
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LOL thats insane.
This thread again?
It's a video game, get over it.
Or like in Secondlife lol *cough* Prostitutes *cough*
imo you can usually tell in many games who the girl avi's piloted by men are, they are usually the ones dressed half naked! ...I mean their avatars
Does not apply to RP'ers though. My first fembot was in old UO, I had multi accounts and she was part of the family
And not a secret thing but in a large RP community. RP'ers will dress normal, since they ar RP'ing, and don't play emotional games with non-RP'ers as you ladie hounds think. Seems more strange to pick a female character if not RP'ing me thinks, but not really strange in a strange way 
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For me its a bit of everything why i choose female toons. I choose male toons as well but for me i find it boring, with the mainstream.
Who can say they dont enjoy watching an attractive female hand people their ass and do a model walk away from the dead corpse? Even if it may be a bit sexist to say, its not the norm to see females being dominate fighters and owning a man. Even though there are those that easily can, in real life or otherwise, its not a common theme and its nice to break from the norm.
Also i like to assign traditional thinkings to my toons, ie- healers being female. Thats not a bad thing or archaic thinking its logical to me. I much have a female doctor then a male doctor, since woman are nurturing life givers. And related to my first point when they break from that traditional role its gratifying lol
The only time i play a man toon is when i go into the traditional role of thinking and play a 'manly' class like a tank. Even though a female tank is more alluring in the long run.
That brings me to the roleplay issue. I will not pretend im a woman, but i wont right out announce to a stranger "hey, just so you know im a dude". If the conversation gets out of hand, which it has on many occasions, i will throw it out there asap to avoid awkward situations. For example one guy i met in game did a couples quest with my female healer. He continued asking me questions like where i live, age, where i work etc, but no asking if i was a guy. It eventually got to where he was promising to buy me a mount that weekend when he gets paid....seriously? I then realized that he was assuming i was female in real life and was hoping to get him a gf or something. He was sadly let down and he soon focused attention on a real life girl and bought her many gifts lol
Pms normally consist of "hey beautiful" or something similar, to which i reply: "thanks bro", they usually get the point. Ends up in a laugh or the "why you playing a girl" question.
No one has to explain themselves to why they play a female toon realistically but people should not be fooled into thinking you are a real life girl. Problems can occur and situations that most people should want to avoid.
Seriously, who cares? If you're out trolling MMOs trying to get laid, you've got bigger problems than anyone playing a cross-gender character possibly could. If you can't separate the avatar on screen from the person behind the keyboard, you've got issues. Does it bug you if the big, buff warrior guy on screen is being played by a scrawny geek? If not, why the hell not?
The only people who get bothered by this sort of thing are the emotionally stunted, immature and probably gender-confused idiots who couldn't get laid RL to save their lives.
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I'm completely fine with a guy playing as a girl in an MMO.
I just want to know whether or not you're a guy.
...for two months I assumed my guild leader was girl because he played one, and acted like one.
Everytime he need someone's attention he'd say: "Honeybun, come're and help me."
Then we get on vent and it turns out he's some 46 year old guy...
I also don't like it when they play a girl for the sole reason of getting free stuff.
Also, I do treat the opposite gender differently, that's why I like to know whether or not they're a guy or girl behind that male or female avatar. I mean, I tend to act a bit more polite around female gamers cause they bitch if I swear or something. I had one male avatar start yelling at me because I said fuck, I figured out that it was a she behind the computer. Had I known that, we wouldn't have lost our healer because I'd have held my tongue.
It is my opinion, that your opinion is incorrect.
I agree with you.
If a person wants to play a woman that is fine. If they want to role play a woman that is fine. But if asked they should be up front about their sex, at least if the group will eventually get to vent. Just a common courtesy.
Also, for people who have issues with men playing women, something to keep in mind, there was a time when women actors were illegal and therefore all female parts were played by men. Including Opera.
So it really isn't beyond the pale.
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I don't roleplay in games, nor am I expecting others to, therefore it doesn't upset me a bit when a male plays a female avatar.
I've done so on occasion, not my preference though and I'm usually found in a male Avatar in most games.
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Sorry, still ridiculous. Why treat *ANYONE* any differently, it's sexist. As far as I'm concerned, anyone playing a girl to get free stuff is going to be terribly disappointed when dealing with me because I don't give them special consideration based on the extra pixels they get on screen. In fact, anyone who comes running by scantily clad is probably going to get even less consideration from me as I pointedly detest that kind of person.
As for your healer, you had a hypersensitive twit who you were better off without. People need to grow the fuck up and play the damn game. Who cares who is behind the screen, all that matters is what the character can do.
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I don't think that there is anything wrong with that. I think that this concept has existed since .hack sign with Tsukasa roleplaying a man when she is a female. You just want an experience that is absolutely different from what you experience in real life and that may require changing genders (for some).
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I sort of agree but it's like you are saying "I think this and that everyone should follow my mode of thinking" but not allowing for different modes of thinking.
Yes, you shouldn't treat people differently because of gender but some people do. It is what it is.
you might think that the healer who logged off was a hyper sensitive twit and others might say "good for her for not putting up with another's garbage".
And I would say you were both right. There is no one right way. No one gets the corner on the "this is how we should be market". My preference is always for everyone to stay out of everyone's face. I don't hold to the idea that we all have to put up with how everyone acts no matter how they want to act.
I can easily agree with you on the "playign a girl to get free stuff" comment. It's beyond ridiculous and the few times I've had a female avatar try to bat their eyes at me in order to engender greater sympathy for them I summarily said something polite and then went on my way.
I personally don't group with people who I don't like. I don't care how awsome they are. If they act like a prat then no matter the gender I'm out of that party. swearing is not a big deal to me but attitude is. no matter what the gender.
edit: I think xaldraxius said what i was trying to say better.
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lol... I have never seen a person so judgmental in their non-judgmentalism. Don't "treat *ANYONE* any differently" But don't dress to look pretty or sexy because you detest that kind of person. The healer was a 'hypersensitive twit' because she didn't care for offensive language that was most likely aimed at her? Who cares who is behind the screen? Why do you play social games at all?
You are a strange dichotomy.
Actually it is if you are NOT roleplaying and you are as a male playing a female avatar that disturbs me. Or atleast it disturbs me as much as a male crossdresser. I dont mind aslong as you're not in my face about it.
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People that are freaked out by it should stop trying to pick chicks up online? I think people do it because that is what we see. Go to your local comic book store and look around at all the comics and games with female characters weilding swords and kicking ass. Look on tv and in music, chicks writhing around on the floor in leather bikinis. Look at 90% of the ads on this site, women wearing "armor" that probably wouldn't save them from a wet noodle.
I've played them. Not one time did I do it to "get stuf from people", "Because I am gay" "I get off on looking at a female video game character" or "I secretly wish I was a woman." Actually if you think about it it is probably kind of sexist more than anything else. The majority of the time you see female characters they're healers or casters. The frail beings that stay to the back of the party, cooking, healing and buffing, just making like easier in general while the beefy looking dudes swing their overgrown swords around.= )