Been playing MMOS for 11 years... going to probably piss some AoC fanbois off in here...
I played this in beta, and also when it was released, but. I quite the game, because I got utterly bored and pissed off with it because lack of content, and the only thing you could do in it was quest, and pvp. So heres an opinion from a non fanboi for AoC, and please read the whole post here before flaming me.
Ok look.. The expansion is ok it's not anything new or amazing that will make your 7 year old son shit his pants. Just some added new race, area's, quests, dungeons, and factions so we can grind factions now... oh fun! If you have played MMO's for as long as I have you would agree with me that this is just another way for the company to make money and manipulate the simple minded gamers who are happy with MMO's that are almost no differn't then simple single player rpgs. MMOs that have nothing more too do then quest, lvl, and grind for gear over and over again. The one major thing that I don't understand is why people think this game is the second comming of jesus, because it really isnt. It has terrific graphics, and the gameplay is great, but there is nothing really that makes this game special over other MMO's your still doing quests over and over again, and now your grinding faction and playing as much as you can to grind gear. Hmm shure sounds like a game that comes to mind and why I hate WoW? wrath of the lich King? same deal differnt game. Everquest 1, and Starwars Galaxies back in the day were 10x better then both of those games combined.
I re-subbed 1 month ago and came back to give it another chance. I rolled on a pvp server, because I love pvp. What can I say. I know you guys absolutly love this game and think it's probably the second comming of jesus, but for me I don't see whats so special about this expansion or the game itself. Like when I first played this game. The PvP is absolutly horrible in this game, and I love pvp. Every class in this game has a hide/stealth ability. Which to me is beyond retarded to me (Yes the best stealthers are assassins and the other class's dont stealth as good) BUT STILL that is like giving every class in WoW a stealth ability like a rogue or somthing. That is just so rediculas among other things that are horribly wrong in pvp with this game.
And lastly the thing that no one on here has mentioned and really pisses me off about this game is that after tortage the quests hardly ever have any voice overs for them. It's like funcom didnt even bother to get off their butts to finnish the rest of the game. So your stuck reading these voiceless npcs doing these braindead quests over and over again.
If you like doing the same thing over and over again and grinding faction. You probably will love this game. I also read on here that someone saud because the game had never did that well was because of all the technical issues it had. Not true at all. The reason why this game never has and never will have the numbers it should is because it bring absolutly nothing new to the table in terms of MMO's. It's still just another game were you can qquest and grind for gear.
This game to me is so bad. That I actually found Dragon Age: Orgins more enjoyable. and thats a single player rpg!!!.. at least the npcs are fully voice and the game isnt just some linear bullshit
Sorry if I offended some people in here. I just couldny help myself, Because I don't understand why this game is so much better then it was before. To me it's still the same unfinnished game as it was 2 years ago, and its sad to me that gamers now are happy with Online MMO's that have hardly any substance to them and are linear peices of garbage.
First impressions were great, the content is fantastic, dungeons are fantastic and the AAs are fantastic (cept HoX's).
Second impressions, well it isn't that hard to grind reputation, but getting the tokens and gold needed to buy ANYTHING from the faction vendors is horrific. We're talking running dungeons hundreds of times for tokens for one item, and probably a lot more for the epic items, due to them needing rare tokens (980 rare tokens for one item is stupid). And I may be missing something huge here, but none of these items are as good as Tier 1 raid gear, which you can get a full set of in a couple of months of raiding.
Been playing MMOS for 11 years... going to probably piss some AoC fanbois off in here...
I played this in beta, and also when it was released, but. I quite the game, because I got utterly bored and pissed off with it because lack of content, and the only thing you could do in it was quest, and pvp. So heres an opinion from a non fanboi for AoC, and please read the whole post here before flaming me.
Ok look.. The expansion is ok it's not anything new or amazing that will make your 7 year old son shit his pants. Just some added new race, area's, quests, dungeons, and factions so we can grind factions now... oh fun! If you have played MMO's for as long as I have you would agree with me that this is just another way for the company to make money and manipulate the simple minded gamers who are happy with MMO's that are almost no differn't then simple single player rpgs. MMOs that have nothing more too do then quest, lvl, and grind for gear over and over again. The one major thing that I don't understand is why people think this game is the second comming of jesus, because it really isnt. It has terrific graphics, and the gameplay is great, but there is nothing really that makes this game special over other MMO's your still doing quests over and over again, and now your grinding faction and playing as much as you can to grind gear. Hmm shure sounds like a game that comes to mind and why I hate WoW? wrath of the lich King? same deal differnt game. Everquest 1, and Starwars Galaxies back in the day were 10x better then both of those games combined.
I re-subbed 1 month ago and came back to give it another chance. I rolled on a pvp server, because I love pvp. What can I say. I know you guys absolutly love this game and think it's probably the second comming of jesus, but for me I don't see whats so special about this expansion or the game itself. Like when I first played this game. The PvP is absolutly horrible in this game, and I love pvp. Every class in this game has a hide/stealth ability. Which to me is beyond retarded to me (Yes the best stealthers are assassins and the other class's dont stealth as good) BUT STILL that is like giving every class in WoW a stealth ability like a rogue or somthing. That is just so rediculas among other things that are horribly wrong in pvp with this game.
And lastly the thing that no one on here has mentioned and really pisses me off about this game is that after tortage the quests hardly ever have any voice overs for them. It's like funcom didnt even bother to get off their butts to finnish the rest of the game. So your stuck reading these voiceless npcs doing these braindead quests over and over again.
If you like doing the same thing over and over again and grinding faction. You probably will love this game. I also read on here that someone saud because the game had never did that well was because of all the technical issues it had. Not true at all. The reason why this game never has and never will have the numbers it should is because it bring absolutly nothing new to the table in terms of MMO's. It's still just another game were you can qquest and grind for gear.
This game to me is so bad. That I actually found Dragon Age: Orgins more enjoyable. and thats a single player rpg!!!.. at least the npcs are fully voice and the game isnt just some linear bullshit
Sorry if I offended some people in here. I just couldny help myself, Because I don't understand why this game is so much better then it was before. To me it's still the same unfinnished game as it was 2 years ago, and its sad to me that gamers now are happy with Online MMO's that have hardly any substance to them and are linear peices of garbage.
hit the nail on the head. i agree with you 100%. every god damn game is the same, and things wont be changin anytime soon
I actually have the same first impression I had with Lotro's Mines of Moria . New and shiny, interesting and explorable, but behind the nice new face-lift, hides a badly hidden gruesome grind monster. A grind monster of repeatable collect/fedex quests. I'm afraid I will grow to loathe Khitai as I did with Mines of Moria...I hope I'm wrong.
@Complication: I beg to differ. I think 2011 will see some MMO's having a different take on the genre, I'm personally looking forward to GW2 (and The Secret World and World of Darkness after that).
@Socrates: hey, no problem, an opinion is an opinion, at least you played the game :-)
I agree with you that the beginning years of MMO's showed a lot more innovation than the last 5 years, where a lot of MMO's have the same sort of game mechanics. Not that many MMO's that are radically different from the herd.
Personally I like the new expansion, next to a bulk of new content it introduces a number of interesting gameplay elements, but of course it's nothing revolutionary. I think most - old and new - players are already happy and pleasantly surprised that the game is running smoothly comparing with how things were at launch. It makes enjoying the game for what it offers a lot easier :-)
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
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Been playing MMOS for 11 years... going to probably piss some AoC fanbois off in here...
I played this in beta, and also when it was released, but. I quite the game, because I got utterly bored and pissed off with it because lack of content, and the only thing you could do in it was quest, and pvp. So heres an opinion from a non fanboi for AoC, and please read the whole post here before flaming me.
Ok look.. The expansion is ok it's not anything new or amazing that will make your 7 year old son shit his pants. Just some added new race, area's, quests, dungeons, and factions so we can grind factions now... oh fun! If you have played MMO's for as long as I have you would agree with me that this is just another way for the company to make money and manipulate the simple minded gamers who are happy with MMO's that are almost no differn't then simple single player rpgs. MMOs that have nothing more too do then quest, lvl, and grind for gear over and over again. The one major thing that I don't understand is why people think this game is the second comming of jesus, because it really isnt. It has terrific graphics, and the gameplay is great, but there is nothing really that makes this game special over other MMO's your still doing quests over and over again, and now your grinding faction and playing as much as you can to grind gear. Hmm shure sounds like a game that comes to mind and why I hate WoW? wrath of the lich King? same deal differnt game. Everquest 1, and Starwars Galaxies back in the day were 10x better then both of those games combined.
I re-subbed 1 month ago and came back to give it another chance. I rolled on a pvp server, because I love pvp. What can I say. I know you guys absolutly love this game and think it's probably the second comming of jesus, but for me I don't see whats so special about this expansion or the game itself. Like when I first played this game. The PvP is absolutly horrible in this game, and I love pvp. Every class in this game has a hide/stealth ability. Which to me is beyond retarded to me (Yes the best stealthers are assassins and the other class's dont stealth as good) BUT STILL that is like giving every class in WoW a stealth ability like a rogue or somthing. That is just so rediculas among other things that are horribly wrong in pvp with this game.
And lastly the thing that no one on here has mentioned and really pisses me off about this game is that after tortage the quests hardly ever have any voice overs for them. It's like funcom didnt even bother to get off their butts to finnish the rest of the game. So your stuck reading these voiceless npcs doing these braindead quests over and over again.
If you like doing the same thing over and over again and grinding faction. You probably will love this game. I also read on here that someone saud because the game had never did that well was because of all the technical issues it had. Not true at all. The reason why this game never has and never will have the numbers it should is because it bring absolutly nothing new to the table in terms of MMO's. It's still just another game were you can qquest and grind for gear.
This game to me is so bad. That I actually found Dragon Age: Orgins more enjoyable. and thats a single player rpg!!!.. at least the npcs are fully voice and the game isnt just some linear bullshit
Sorry if I offended some people in here. I just couldny help myself, Because I don't understand why this game is so much better then it was before. To me it's still the same unfinnished game as it was 2 years ago, and its sad to me that gamers now are happy with Online MMO's that have hardly any substance to them and are linear peices of garbage.
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First impressions were great, the content is fantastic, dungeons are fantastic and the AAs are fantastic (cept HoX's).
Second impressions, well it isn't that hard to grind reputation, but getting the tokens and gold needed to buy ANYTHING from the faction vendors is horrific. We're talking running dungeons hundreds of times for tokens for one item, and probably a lot more for the epic items, due to them needing rare tokens (980 rare tokens for one item is stupid). And I may be missing something huge here, but none of these items are as good as Tier 1 raid gear, which you can get a full set of in a couple of months of raiding.
hit the nail on the head. i agree with you 100%. every god damn game is the same, and things wont be changin anytime soon
I actually have the same first impression I had with Lotro's Mines of Moria . New and shiny, interesting and explorable, but behind the nice new face-lift, hides a badly hidden gruesome grind monster. A grind monster of repeatable collect/fedex quests. I'm afraid I will grow to loathe Khitai as I did with Mines of Moria...I hope I'm wrong.
@Complication: I beg to differ. I think 2011 will see some MMO's having a different take on the genre, I'm personally looking forward to GW2 (and The Secret World and World of Darkness after that).
@Socrates: hey, no problem, an opinion is an opinion, at least you played the game :-)
I agree with you that the beginning years of MMO's showed a lot more innovation than the last 5 years, where a lot of MMO's have the same sort of game mechanics. Not that many MMO's that are radically different from the herd.
Personally I like the new expansion, next to a bulk of new content it introduces a number of interesting gameplay elements, but of course it's nothing revolutionary. I think most - old and new - players are already happy and pleasantly surprised that the game is running smoothly comparing with how things were at launch. It makes enjoying the game for what it offers a lot easier :-)
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."