What do you expect when every expansion has inflated the statistical progression so much?
That the game becomes completely focused on the acquisition of better gear?
No.. never...
WoW does have that 80 levels of tutorials and then 80 levels of gear thing going for it... it is End Game, the Grind of Gear Disparity.
WoW is not perfect, but for the price of 1single monthly, is there a better game that appeals to a wide spectrum of gamers?
This is the exact reason why people (especially those that come to this site) don't like WoW, because it appeals to a wide spectrum of gamers, not only a specific set of gamers (namely the hardcore). They want their specific needs and wants catered to (as fully illustrated in the 'what would make you come back to WoW' thread). Most want things that WoW is not (like more pvp).
I can understand the pursuit of one's favour. I can also understand that the world does not revolve around me alone, nor am I that special to justify god's special treatment. I settle for what I can have, understanding that others share the world, and need not bow to my wishes.
WoW is a middle of the road runner, everyone can enjoy it, to some extent. For one product, it serves a wide spectrum. That I see is a success. I do play other games, including games not played on the internet. Those are supplements to WoW and a few online games I sub. Trying to criticise WoW, belttle the achievement of WoW, simply because I want something more than WoW in one or two aspects, is naive, selfish, and outright stupid. It is as if I am trying to decry rice simply because I like something longer (noodles, sphagetti).
I appreciate the contribution of WoW, I look for alternates to supplement WoW for other forms of entertainments, for other aspects of game fun, without feeling the urge to speak out negative about WoW.
I agree with you, but you're speaking about a playerbase that was used to getting a specific style of gameplay before WoW came along. To use your analogy, before WoW they used to get noodles and spagetti when asked for but now they don't get noodles and spagetti anymore (or in very small quatities) because rice makes them more money.
Then you add in big dog syndrome (WoW is the big dog so it's convieniet to always criticize the big dog) and it's no wonder that people don't like the game. But, they must being doing something right to maintain the number of subscribers that they do. You don't just stumble upon 11 million subs.
Yep.. same can be said of McDonald's .. They are by far the largest fast food chain in the world.. They must be doing something right... HOWEVER.. I"ve never read one professional review of fast food chains that puts McDonalds on top.. Why is that? Maybe because McD's serves some of the worst food in the industry, and 90% of us know it.. But, they remain to be #1 in terms of pure store numbers..
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Look at how many people play various single player games with online mode game lobbies. WoW is just a game lobby, why would it be surprising that they have a certain number of subs?
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Yep.. same can be said of McDonald's .. They are by far the largest fast food chain in the world.. They must be doing something right... HOWEVER.. I"ve never read one professional review of fast food chains that puts McDonalds on top.. Why is that? Maybe because McD's serves some of the worst food in the industry, and 90% of us know it.. But, they remain to be #1 in terms of pure store numbers..
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
One obviously doesn't have to be the "best" to make a HUGE amount of money. One simply has to provide a good or service that a large number of people are willing to pay for. WoW for all its flaws(which are legion...) is entertaining up to level cap. Then its mainly PvP and/or raiding. WoW appeals to a very broad range of players, which is one of the reasons for their retention over more than 5 years now.
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Actually in some respects, it does. It hightlights the fact that the product is more popular (and some could interpret that as "the best") in the eyes of a certain demographic. Not EVERY demographic, but thats not the point. MMO's that are popular have a larger playerbase than others, thus adding to the whole "Massively Multiplayer" feeling and thus creating greater immersion to those who enjoy it.
One can hate WoW all they like, but it IS doing some things right in order to grab and KEEP that level of subs.
MMO's don't have to be exact clones of WoW in order to succeed, however they would be fools to ignore the lessons that Blizzard taught the rest of the MMO industry. And sadly, many do, and suffer the consequences. MMO's don't have to compete with WoW directly, but they DO have to compete with each other. And when they don't produce quality products, then the population jumps ship within months of launch. That's not Blizzards / WoW's fault. That is the fault of the devs.
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Actually in some respects, it does. It hightlights the fact that you are more popular than your competitors (some could interpret that as "the best") in the eyes of a certain demographic. Not EVERY demographic, but thats not the point.
One can hate WoW all they like, but it IS doing some things right in order to grab and KEEP that level of subs.
But they have not kept that number. That was at the end of 2008 or so, and it has been in decline since then.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Actually in some respects, it does. It hightlights the fact that you are more popular than your competitors (some could interpret that as "the best") in the eyes of a certain demographic. Not EVERY demographic, but thats not the point.
One can hate WoW all they like, but it IS doing some things right in order to grab and KEEP that level of subs.
But they have not kept that number. That was at the end of 2008 or so, and it has been in decline since then.
Let me be a little more specific, I mean keeping a level that far exceeds many of its competitors.
Given the amount of money that Blizzard / WoW has made over the last 6 years (look at that graph, approximately $330 million between 2005 and 2009 in subs alone), an approximate 6% drop in subs over 1 single year is hardly something to panic about.
In actual fact, that graph is quite indicative of why many companies strive for: a complete return on the investments within a reasonable timeframe of a couple of years. I believe WoW cost $80 million to make, and by going off that graph, by 2007 the game had paid for itself and even had netted Blizzard a healthy profit.
If a product is able to by far exceed the revenue of its competitors and maintain such a position, then it must be doing something correct in the eyes of its intended playerbase. The product may not offer the features found in other manufacturers products. But if the other products general level of quality cannot even match the product in question, then their manufacturers cannot blame anyone but themselves.
Yep.. same can be said of McDonald's .. They are by far the largest fast food chain in the world.. They must be doing something right... HOWEVER.. I"ve never read one professional review of fast food chains that puts McDonalds on top.. Why is that? Maybe because McD's serves some of the worst food in the industry, and 90% of us know it.. But, they remain to be #1 in terms of pure store numbers..
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Have you READ PROFESSIONAL reviews of WOW lately? Do you know what its metacritic or gamerankings scores are? They are over 90% .. so i guess it can happen.
Look at how many people play various single player games with online mode game lobbies. WoW is just a game lobby, why would it be surprising that they have a certain number of subs?
Because it charages $15 a month? Tell me how many single player games charge a sub fee and have 11+M players.
Look at how many people play various single player games with online mode game lobbies. WoW is just a game lobby, why would it be surprising that they have a certain number of subs?
Because it charages $15 a month? Tell me how many single player games charge a sub fee and have 11+M players.
It is a combination of what WoW offers that accounts for the number of subs. The game lobby thing is one of those things, is there any denying that WoW is a game lobby?
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Look at how many people play various single player games with online mode game lobbies. WoW is just a game lobby, why would it be surprising that they have a certain number of subs?
Because it charages $15 a month? Tell me how many single player games charge a sub fee and have 11+M players.
It is a combination of what WoW offers that accounts for the number of subs. The game lobby thing is one of those things, is there any denying that WoW is a game lobby?
Nope. And why is that bad? I prefer a game lobby with an option of open world than having to run 15 min to a dungeon EVERYTIME i want to run it.
Look at how many people play various single player games with online mode game lobbies. WoW is just a game lobby, why would it be surprising that they have a certain number of subs?
Because it charages $15 a month? Tell me how many single player games charge a sub fee and have 11+M players.
It is a combination of what WoW offers that accounts for the number of subs. The game lobby thing is one of those things, is there any denying that WoW is a game lobby?
"Lobby"? You are discounting the thousands of quests, spread over all of the worlds land masses? WoW's instances are only a part of the game.
Look at how many people play various single player games with online mode game lobbies. WoW is just a game lobby, why would it be surprising that they have a certain number of subs?
Because it charages $15 a month? Tell me how many single player games charge a sub fee and have 11+M players.
It is a combination of what WoW offers that accounts for the number of subs. The game lobby thing is one of those things, is there any denying that WoW is a game lobby?
"Lobby"? You are discounting the thousands of quests, spread over all of the worlds land masses? WoW's instances are only a part of the game.
You hit 80 in a few days to a week and grind BGs, Heroics, Raids. It is a game lobby. Yes, I discount the 80 levels of tutorial Blizzard offers, since it is apparent than their focus is on the 80-160 or so levels offered in gear disparity once you reach level 80.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Whoever made the gearscore addon is a complete retard. GS used to go off Wow-heroes, THEN some IDIOT decided to use a completely different system for calculating GS. My question is why? Why not make an addon that updates GS according to wowheroes? or request an addon from wowheroes that does that if no1 knows how the GS is calculated. This got some of the less intellegent wow players a completely different view on the GS and now they think 5k is the required gearscore for everything, when it used to be 3.5k (all these ratings are going off the current WoW GS addon, not WoW heroes) I did VoA when my gs was less than 4k (estimated, but definetly less than 4k) I did ToC when my GS was around 4.5k and now you suddenly need 5k?
World of Warcraft is the original creation of God. Real Life is in fact a WoW clone.
Whoever made the gearscore addon is a complete retard. GS used to go off Wow-heroes, THEN some IDIOT decided to use a completely different system for calculating GS. My question is why? Why not make an addon that updates GS according to wowheroes? or request an addon from wowheroes that does that if no1 knows how the GS is calculated. This got some of the less intellegent wow players a completely different view on the GS and now they think 5k is the required gearscore for everything, when it used to be 3.5k (all these ratings are going off the current WoW GS addon, not WoW heroes) I did VoA when my gs was less than 4k (estimated, but definetly less than 4k) I did ToC when my GS was around 4.5k and now you suddenly need 5k?
I cannot remember if I said something akin to that in this GS thread or one of the others that appeared recently, but there is no arguing against the fact that the WH numbers are better than the GS numbers...and lol, yeah - the 5K for VoA is kind of stupid. At the same time though, it comes from those that want a quick flawless run and believe that GS equates to skill.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Look at how many people play various single player games with online mode game lobbies. WoW is just a game lobby, why would it be surprising that they have a certain number of subs?
Because it charages $15 a month? Tell me how many single player games charge a sub fee and have 11+M players.
It is a combination of what WoW offers that accounts for the number of subs. The game lobby thing is one of those things, is there any denying that WoW is a game lobby?
"Lobby"? You are discounting the thousands of quests, spread over all of the worlds land masses? WoW's instances are only a part of the game.
You hit 80 in a few days to a week and grind BGs, Heroics, Raids. It is a game lobby. Yes, I discount the 80 levels of tutorial Blizzard offers, since it is apparent than their focus is on the 80-160 or so levels offered in gear disparity once you reach level 80.
"Few days to a week"? Perhaps if you play 12-14 hours a day, and already know what is involved. Other wise its going to take a month or more. The first 60 levels are much faster now. 60-70 also isn't as bad. But 70-80 hasn't been nerfed yet. Its only a lobby for those endlessly running randoms and raids. Not to mention that the best raiding gear isn't that vastly better than T9.
Look at how many people play various single player games with online mode game lobbies. WoW is just a game lobby, why would it be surprising that they have a certain number of subs?
Because it charages $15 a month? Tell me how many single player games charge a sub fee and have 11+M players.
It is a combination of what WoW offers that accounts for the number of subs. The game lobby thing is one of those things, is there any denying that WoW is a game lobby?
"Lobby"? You are discounting the thousands of quests, spread over all of the worlds land masses? WoW's instances are only a part of the game.
You hit 80 in a few days to a week and grind BGs, Heroics, Raids. It is a game lobby. Yes, I discount the 80 levels of tutorial Blizzard offers, since it is apparent than their focus is on the 80-160 or so levels offered in gear disparity once you reach level 80.
"Few days to a week"? Perhaps if you play 12-14 hours a day, and already know what is involved. Other wise its going to take a month or more. The first 60 levels are much faster now. 60-70 also isn't as bad. But 70-80 hasn't been nerfed yet. Its only a lobby for those endlessly running randoms and raids. Not to mention that the best raiding gear isn't that vastly better than T9.
That is based on time played, so yeah...3-7 days or so of played time. 72-168 hours or so, so it might be a couple of weeks to a month or so depending on what you are doing. That is not that long considering how long it used to take, the lie that 61-70 would take as long as 1-60 and the lie that 71-80 would take as long as 1-70. Then again, I suppose they worked through their lie by making the time to get the earlier levels that much quicker...lol.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Yes, I discount the 80 levels of tutorial Blizzard offers, since it is apparent than their focus is on the 80-160 or so levels offered in gear disparity once you reach level 80.
If you don't have arguments, discount it. That's the newest technique shown in forums apparently.
Some questions to you VirusDancer:
1. How do you explain the new AH game on the I-Pod/portable, of which the vast majority runs of gathered and crafted goods found in the WORLD ... Could explain your " lobby game"? You can't by the sheer existence of an application that probably sells more extra subs than your preferred games will ever have.
If you play WOW as a simple lobby game you are broke within a week (if not days if playing 24/24 like you suggest).
Perhaps buying gold with the gold maffia is a solution to you ?
2. Give us a calculation of your record breaking leveling 1-80 "within a week", that's 168 hours without sleep.
Most average players would do 300-350 hours to reach end game these days. That's 80 days playing at around 4 hours a day.
That is still around 3 months in calender days. Probably 4 months for a complete virgin just to stand in greens and blues before grinding Heroics to become "attuned" - sorry this time "geared" to start the end game... at ... 2 badges of Frost max ... per day,... while a simple chest costs ... 95 Frost badges ... to enter ICC... and now "Oops" I forgot the 3 gem stones at 600 Gold total bought ... on the Auction House (you know the one mentioned in point 1 above)... and the 15 other items I still need to enter the Raids.
Oh you can always ... buy some 245/264 Gear on the ... AH of course at the modest price of 4000 to 8000 Gold per item.
See ? You don't play WOW as a lobby game, because it simply is impossible unless you cheat and buy from the gold maffia.
On topic: GS is an easy way to see if the person is properly geared to have a chance in a certain Raid. As it doesn't even distinguish between PvP and PvE gear it is even flawed, but nevertheless useful to see if an avatar is "ready" to start or not.
GS doesnt mean anything: it is just an attunement check of the old days (but with less boring grind).
Its embarrassing when an NPC compliments you in an MMo, the only relevant, cool and epic things come from players whispering you Grtz, mate, we did it. copyright Pilnkplonk
Yep.. same can be said of McDonald's .. They are by far the largest fast food chain in the world.. They must be doing something right... HOWEVER.. I"ve never read one professional review of fast food chains that puts McDonalds on top.. Why is that? Maybe because McD's serves some of the worst food in the industry, and 90% of us know it.. But, they remain to be #1 in terms of pure store numbers..
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Have you READ PROFESSIONAL reviews of WOW lately? Do you know what its metacritic or gamerankings scores are? They are over 90% .. so i guess it can happen.
Yeah.. and the Movie the Titanic, which was one of the BEST selling movies in history with awards recieves a Meta score of 74.. What does that tell you? uh huh.. I thought so
When I played people didn't accept me as dps to ICC because my GS was low enough. Next time I saw pug raid looking for people I simply threw my tank gear on and I was accepted as dps, the gear looks same anyways.
Yep.. same can be said of McDonald's .. They are by far the largest fast food chain in the world.. They must be doing something right... HOWEVER.. I"ve never read one professional review of fast food chains that puts McDonalds on top.. Why is that? Maybe because McD's serves some of the worst food in the industry, and 90% of us know it.. But, they remain to be #1 in terms of pure store numbers..
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Have you READ PROFESSIONAL reviews of WOW lately? Do you know what its metacritic or gamerankings scores are? They are over 90% .. so i guess it can happen.
Yeah.. and the Movie the Titanic, which was one of the BEST selling movies in history with awards recieves a Meta score of 74.. What does that tell you? uh huh.. I thought so
Yep.. same can be said of McDonald's .. They are by far the largest fast food chain in the world.. They must be doing something right... HOWEVER.. I"ve never read one professional review of fast food chains that puts McDonalds on top.. Why is that? Maybe because McD's serves some of the worst food in the industry, and 90% of us know it.. But, they remain to be #1 in terms of pure store numbers..
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Have you READ PROFESSIONAL reviews of WOW lately? Do you know what its metacritic or gamerankings scores are? They are over 90% .. so i guess it can happen.
Yeah.. and the Movie the Titanic, which was one of the BEST selling movies in history with awards recieves a Meta score of 74.. What does that tell you? uh huh.. I thought so
Have a great day
Absolutely NOTHING about WOW.
They are not even the same kind of entertainment.
WOW.. you didn't even come close to grasping what as said.. Let me help you out with a hint "metascore"..
Yep.. same can be said of McDonald's .. They are by far the largest fast food chain in the world.. They must be doing something right... HOWEVER.. I"ve never read one professional review of fast food chains that puts McDonalds on top.. Why is that? Maybe because McD's serves some of the worst food in the industry, and 90% of us know it.. But, they remain to be #1 in terms of pure store numbers..
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Have you READ PROFESSIONAL reviews of WOW lately? Do you know what its metacritic or gamerankings scores are? They are over 90% .. so i guess it can happen.
Yeah.. and the Movie the Titanic, which was one of the BEST selling movies in history with awards recieves a Meta score of 74.. What does that tell you? uh huh.. I thought so
Have a great day
Absolutely NOTHING about WOW.
They are not even the same kind of entertainment.
WOW.. you didn't even come close to grasping what as said.. Let me help you out with a hint "metascore"..
I hope that helps you.. TRY AGAIN.. lol
You have no clue of how metascores work right? Look at the set of reviewers for WOW and the ones for the movie. They are different.
So why would whatever score Avatar got on metascore affect WOW's score?
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I agree with you, but you're speaking about a playerbase that was used to getting a specific style of gameplay before WoW came along. To use your analogy, before WoW they used to get noodles and spagetti when asked for but now they don't get noodles and spagetti anymore (or in very small quatities) because rice makes them more money.
Then you add in big dog syndrome (WoW is the big dog so it's convieniet to always criticize the big dog) and it's no wonder that people don't like the game. But, they must being doing something right to maintain the number of subscribers that they do. You don't just stumble upon 11 million subs.
Yep.. same can be said of McDonald's .. They are by far the largest fast food chain in the world.. They must be doing something right... HOWEVER.. I"ve never read one professional review of fast food chains that puts McDonalds on top.. Why is that? Maybe because McD's serves some of the worst food in the industry, and 90% of us know it.. But, they remain to be #1 in terms of pure store numbers..
In conclusion.. Just be cause you have "billions and billions served (11 million)" doesnt' make you the best..
Look at how many people play various single player games with online mode game lobbies. WoW is just a game lobby, why would it be surprising that they have a certain number of subs?
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
One obviously doesn't have to be the "best" to make a HUGE amount of money. One simply has to provide a good or service that a large number of people are willing to pay for. WoW for all its flaws(which are legion...) is entertaining up to level cap. Then its mainly PvP and/or raiding. WoW appeals to a very broad range of players, which is one of the reasons for their retention over more than 5 years now.
Actually in some respects, it does. It hightlights the fact that the product is more popular (and some could interpret that as "the best") in the eyes of a certain demographic. Not EVERY demographic, but thats not the point. MMO's that are popular have a larger playerbase than others, thus adding to the whole "Massively Multiplayer" feeling and thus creating greater immersion to those who enjoy it.
One can hate WoW all they like, but it IS doing some things right in order to grab and KEEP that level of subs.
MMO's don't have to be exact clones of WoW in order to succeed, however they would be fools to ignore the lessons that Blizzard taught the rest of the MMO industry. And sadly, many do, and suffer the consequences. MMO's don't have to compete with WoW directly, but they DO have to compete with each other. And when they don't produce quality products, then the population jumps ship within months of launch. That's not Blizzards / WoW's fault. That is the fault of the devs.
Top 10 Most Misused Words in MMO's
But they have not kept that number. That was at the end of 2008 or so, and it has been in decline since then.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Let me be a little more specific, I mean keeping a level that far exceeds many of its competitors.
Given the amount of money that Blizzard / WoW has made over the last 6 years (look at that graph, approximately $330 million between 2005 and 2009 in subs alone), an approximate 6% drop in subs over 1 single year is hardly something to panic about.
In actual fact, that graph is quite indicative of why many companies strive for: a complete return on the investments within a reasonable timeframe of a couple of years. I believe WoW cost $80 million to make, and by going off that graph, by 2007 the game had paid for itself and even had netted Blizzard a healthy profit.
If a product is able to by far exceed the revenue of its competitors and maintain such a position, then it must be doing something correct in the eyes of its intended playerbase. The product may not offer the features found in other manufacturers products. But if the other products general level of quality cannot even match the product in question, then their manufacturers cannot blame anyone but themselves.
Top 10 Most Misused Words in MMO's
Have you READ PROFESSIONAL reviews of WOW lately? Do you know what its metacritic or gamerankings scores are? They are over 90% .. so i guess it can happen.
Because it charages $15 a month? Tell me how many single player games charge a sub fee and have 11+M players.
It is a combination of what WoW offers that accounts for the number of subs. The game lobby thing is one of those things, is there any denying that WoW is a game lobby?
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Nope. And why is that bad? I prefer a game lobby with an option of open world than having to run 15 min to a dungeon EVERYTIME i want to run it.
"Lobby"? You are discounting the thousands of quests, spread over all of the worlds land masses? WoW's instances are only a part of the game.
You hit 80 in a few days to a week and grind BGs, Heroics, Raids. It is a game lobby. Yes, I discount the 80 levels of tutorial Blizzard offers, since it is apparent than their focus is on the 80-160 or so levels offered in gear disparity once you reach level 80.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Whoever made the gearscore addon is a complete retard. GS used to go off Wow-heroes, THEN some IDIOT decided to use a completely different system for calculating GS. My question is why? Why not make an addon that updates GS according to wowheroes? or request an addon from wowheroes that does that if no1 knows how the GS is calculated. This got some of the less intellegent wow players a completely different view on the GS and now they think 5k is the required gearscore for everything, when it used to be 3.5k (all these ratings are going off the current WoW GS addon, not WoW heroes) I did VoA when my gs was less than 4k (estimated, but definetly less than 4k) I did ToC when my GS was around 4.5k and now you suddenly need 5k?
World of Warcraft is the original creation of God. Real Life is in fact a WoW clone.
I cannot remember if I said something akin to that in this GS thread or one of the others that appeared recently, but there is no arguing against the fact that the WH numbers are better than the GS numbers...and lol, yeah - the 5K for VoA is kind of stupid. At the same time though, it comes from those that want a quick flawless run and believe that GS equates to skill.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
"Few days to a week"? Perhaps if you play 12-14 hours a day, and already know what is involved. Other wise its going to take a month or more. The first 60 levels are much faster now. 60-70 also isn't as bad. But 70-80 hasn't been nerfed yet. Its only a lobby for those endlessly running randoms and raids. Not to mention that the best raiding gear isn't that vastly better than T9.
That is based on time played, so yeah...3-7 days or so of played time. 72-168 hours or so, so it might be a couple of weeks to a month or so depending on what you are doing. That is not that long considering how long it used to take, the lie that 61-70 would take as long as 1-60 and the lie that 71-80 would take as long as 1-70. Then again, I suppose they worked through their lie by making the time to get the earlier levels that much quicker...lol.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
If you don't have arguments, discount it. That's the newest technique shown in forums apparently.
Some questions to you VirusDancer:
1. How do you explain the new AH game on the I-Pod/portable, of which the vast majority runs of gathered and crafted goods found in the WORLD ... Could explain your " lobby game"? You can't by the sheer existence of an application that probably sells more extra subs than your preferred games will ever have.
If you play WOW as a simple lobby game you are broke within a week (if not days if playing 24/24 like you suggest).
Perhaps buying gold with the gold maffia is a solution to you ?
2. Give us a calculation of your record breaking leveling 1-80 "within a week", that's 168 hours without sleep.
Most average players would do 300-350 hours to reach end game these days. That's 80 days playing at around 4 hours a day.
That is still around 3 months in calender days. Probably 4 months for a complete virgin just to stand in greens and blues before grinding Heroics to become "attuned" - sorry this time "geared" to start the end game... at ... 2 badges of Frost max ... per day,... while a simple chest costs ... 95 Frost badges ... to enter ICC... and now "Oops" I forgot the 3 gem stones at 600 Gold total bought ... on the Auction House (you know the one mentioned in point 1 above)... and the 15 other items I still need to enter the Raids.
Oh you can always ... buy some 245/264 Gear on the ... AH of course at the modest price of 4000 to 8000 Gold per item.
See ? You don't play WOW as a lobby game, because it simply is impossible unless you cheat and buy from the gold maffia.
On topic: GS is an easy way to see if the person is properly geared to have a chance in a certain Raid. As it doesn't even distinguish between PvP and PvE gear it is even flawed, but nevertheless useful to see if an avatar is "ready" to start or not.
GS doesnt mean anything: it is just an attunement check of the old days (but with less boring grind).
Its embarrassing when an NPC compliments you in an MMo, the only relevant, cool and epic things come from players whispering you Grtz, mate, we did it. copyright Pilnkplonk
Yeah.. and the Movie the Titanic, which was one of the BEST selling movies in history with awards recieves a Meta score of 74.. What does that tell you? uh huh.. I thought so
Have a great day
When I played people didn't accept me as dps to ICC because my GS was low enough. Next time I saw pug raid looking for people I simply threw my tank gear on and I was accepted as dps, the gear looks same anyways.
Absolutely NOTHING about WOW.
They are not even the same kind of entertainment.
WOW.. you didn't even come close to grasping what as said.. Let me help you out with a hint "metascore"..
I hope that helps you.. TRY AGAIN.. lol
You have no clue of how metascores work right? Look at the set of reviewers for WOW and the ones for the movie. They are different.
So why would whatever score Avatar got on metascore affect WOW's score?