This was a developer telling us why we should choose APB?
1. 244 words on Start->Accessories->Paint that you pay a monthly sub for. 125 words on combat.
2. "Well, for starters, we're an action game, not an RPG"
3. "it shares as much with experiences like Counter-strike"
Remove from site?
You don't need a subscription for the social district by the way. I've looked through this post, and many people really are uninformed about this game.
Open world insists I can walk around and do what I like, and I can. Infact there is talks of a chaos rules server at release where, if I feel like, I can kill anyone I please as well. So I can jump in on those people doing missions and blow the hell outta some crims or enforcers.
You don't need to pay monthly, you can pay hourly TO BE IN THE COMBAT DISTRICTS, the social district is free. If I want unlimited play in the combat areas I can pay 10 bucks a month. That sounds like a good deal to me.
APB sounds much better than paying 15 a month to jump in some stupid PVP Arena with less people, a Dynamis or raid with 40-60 other fucktards that can't cast a heal to save their life not to mention the retarded amount of time it takes to get the idiots together, or Aions end game shit pvp raids with even less people.
So for my money, I'll vote for APB. If not for anything but it's the best damn option on a pay scale and a fun scale for me.
And before people go ranting about how everything is instanced and background matchmaking, keep the chaos servers in mind.
I can see ABP getting boring, but not yet IMO. Question is do you buy something that may get old quick? i hope more content is available in beta soon, i have not been in any of those big shoot outs they talk about, just the free roam and missions, and pvp. But i will say the pvp is kinda of fun. Dont get me wrong im not trying to sell this game at all, just sharing my experience thus far. I also agree customizing does not make up for lack of content, i may have a badass looking car, but then what? All dressed up and no where to go?
I wish they had chaos servers in beta. It would have been nice to see how that would have worked. I can only bet it will be very hard to get much done in a chaos server. Idiots will camp the cop and crimal spawn locals and just shot each other all day. They should really have the NPCs get in on the fight instead of standing there. COurse then they'd be killable and assholes would kill them all day long so no one could do missions so I guess forget that idea.
Oh yeah, u can steal cars for maybe 3 minutes and rob stores for maybe 2 minutes before u get an APB on your ass.
This game ain't bad, but hell it's still content-less like hell.
2 instances, maybe 15 diff missions, about 12 primary weapons too (which are being patched everytime cuz the balance hasn't been found yet, it's just getting there).
Lags still pretty much, more than any MMO game u'll find around, even if it's still open beta.
Game progressed a lot lately tho, but the content won't be enhanced til a long time.
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Oh yeah, u can steal cars for maybe 3 minutes and rob stores for maybe 2 minutes before u get an APB on your ass.
This game ain't bad, but hell it's still content-less like hell.
2 instances, maybe 15 diff missions, about 12 primary weapons too (which are being patched everytime cuz the balance hasn't been found yet, it's just getting there).
Lags still pretty much, more than any MMO game u'll find around, even if it's still open beta.
Game progressed a lot lately tho, but the content won't be enhanced til a long time.
Well I can see that as a crim. You don't just go on a crime spree and no one reacts. Dont like it be a cop. But crims make money way more easily than a cop! Ram Raids make a lot of cash in a small ammount of time.
Originally posted by AkumaDaimyo But crims make money way more easily than a cop! Ram Raids make a lot of cash in a small ammount of time.
Always makes me chuckle when I jump in a security van near-full of stolen stuff while the criminal watches in horror with the last item in his hands
"If all you can say is... "It's awful, it's not innovative, it's ugly, it's blah.." Then you're an unimaginative and unpolished excuse for human life" -eburn
I was in Beta, I'm in NA and I played int the European Beta, no lag for me.
To the person that says it's nothing like GTA... well, you don't have to repeatedly mash "A" to run and there isn't an elaborate story interspersed with cutscenes.
Gear matters but skill accounts more than any other MMO I've played, roll with a crew, communicate and use tactics and you'll be fine.
I was in Beta, I'm in NA and I played int the European Beta, no lag for me.
To the person that says it's nothing like GTA... well, you don't have to repeatedly mash "A" to run and there isn't an elaborate story interspersed with cutscenes.
Gear matters but skill accounts more than any other MMO I've played, roll with a crew, communicate and use tactics and you'll be fine.
Not really. It wont save you from the guy with a 3 slotted gun with savage and 3 ability slots who has monolith, regen and survivor. Oh and you can be fighting this guy when your at least 100 rank beneath him. I dont think you really know what your saying. Skill doesnt matter as much as you think it does. Gear is king.
I'm not going to call it a bad game but I did the beta for a week, which i feel is enough time, and it just could not hold my attention. I kind felt like I was doing RvR over and over and over again like in WAR...sooner or later it just gets too repetitive. anyone else feel this way ?
Well in that case I guess I can share my experience with the beta. The game it self, simply put, is crap. It's below average shooter. 3rd person view is retarded in shooter games - I'm an old school Quake player and that is how I feel. City is instanced, each instance is suppose to support 100 players and devs promised such things ans 20 on 20 or even 40 on 40 fights (not sure any more). In my long beta play 99% of fights were 2 on 2 (since I was playing with a friend all the time). We had a few 3 on 3 or 4 on 4 fights. I can count on my hand number of times we fought in 8 vs 8 fights (and that was max). So this is in no way an MMO game.
For me this game is not worth 5$. It is my opinion after playing the beta. I'm sure some people will love it. I don't care even if it was free to play I would still not play it. It's just not any good in my book. And I do know it was only beta when I was playing it, but game will not change for 180° month or few from release.
Every time I read your post, I die a little inside...
This game, to start with, is not a MMO. It is most certainly NOT an open world as what the definition means. You only interact with players in the lobby except for the small team based combat modes.
Just another Diablo format in more of a FPS mode.
If you enjoy this type of game, have fun, not criticizing the game, just how the developers seem intent on classifying it.
l2read.
there is no lobby.
you join a district (100 player server) and you're 'matched' against other players as you play.
basically (as an enforcer) it goes like this:
join server
get in your car and cruise around to see if you can witness any criminals commiting crimes
get a backup request, accept it
help the people you're backing up accomplish the mission
group leader accepts a mission, your group starts doing it
the matchmaking competition gives another group a mission to stop your group.
???
win/lose
Oh come on, district, lobby, they are all the same it is a restricted space which has a limit to the number of players. You are arguing semantics here. Again not a MMO, does not meet the massive definition in my book.
We're an open-world, urban action game where Criminals fight Enforcers - it's seems easy to have expectations such as " online" or "Cops and Robbers online", right?
Not exactly. We certainly share some similarities with both expectations above but we recommend coming into APB with an open mind - it shares as much with experiences like Counter-strike as it does with any open world crime game.
All Points Bulletin is something that we feel is completely different than what's out there online or offline - and at its core it's about you... your tastes, your creations, your skill, and your stories.
See you in San Paro.
I guess the guy should google / wiki "open-world". Lobbied deathmatch will never be open world.
Open worlds are like Ryzom / Darkfall or even WoW (vanilla) ...
Its like we would go back the evolution and see smaller and smaller worlds being "open-worlds" .
Overhyped + marketing.
Nowhere did he say that it was open-world PVP.
It is an open-world. You meet other players all over the place. It's just that you can't fight everyone of them. For you to be able to fight anyone you have to be dispatched against them. Or alternatively you could get such a high threat level that a bounty is placed on your head and then you have your open world pvp. Everyone (well every criminal) can attack you and vice versa.
We're an open-world, urban action game where Criminals fight Enforcers - it's seems easy to have expectations such as " online" or "Cops and Robbers online", right?
Not exactly. We certainly share some similarities with both expectations above but we recommend coming into APB with an open mind - it shares as much with experiences like Counter-strike as it does with any open world crime game.
All Points Bulletin is something that we feel is completely different than what's out there online or offline - and at its core it's about you... your tastes, your creations, your skill, and your stories.
See you in San Paro.
I guess the guy should google / wiki "open-world". Lobbied deathmatch will never be open world.
Open worlds are like Ryzom / Darkfall or even WoW (vanilla) ...
Its like we would go back the evolution and see smaller and smaller worlds being "open-worlds" .
Overhyped + marketing.
Nowhere did he say that it was open-world PVP.
It is an open-world. You meet other players all over the place. It's just that you can't fight everyone of them. For you to be able to fight anyone you have to be dispatched against them. Or alternatively you could get such a high threat level that a bounty is placed on your head and then you have your open world pvp. Everyone (well every criminal) can attack you and vice versa.
I'm fine with that.
I suggest you to take the time and read the 10 pages and you would realise how displaced your post is, after all the discussion was there. /facepalm
I've been following this game for so many years. I was very very sad when they said that they where going to have a monthly subscription. I think it was a cheap move to hold people interested for so long.
I don't care about the social districts being free. I still have to commit to something, and pay a fee if I want to walk around and play the game and PvP. The free aspect is a hook. I was in beta, but I didn't even play it, because I got so frustrated with their choice.
In the end it does not matter. I only have time, money and resources for one game per month to pay a fee for. And I know that I will take a real MMORPG with all the broader gameplay styles and choices it offers me, than an large online action game.
APB might be great. Planetside was great too. But I refused to pay in the end, no matter how good it was. I just had to settle with BF2(64) players and other shooters. Same thing with APB. Maybe its possible that APB will beat the competition, but I will stick with Global Agenda as its not required to have a monthly fee to have fun and do some basic pvp'ing.. and on the side I will play GTA4 and Multi theft auto online. It's not ideal, but it will suffice, in small doses as I am playing my main MMORPG.
Thats the thing. APB would be a side dish to my real MMO. When I needed 5 minutes before dinner to do some gaming and get my action fix. I would never play APB enough to justify a fee long term.
It really, really sucks that they went with that fee. that was such a bad move.
OK stop the personal attacks guys and endless quoting of each others posts.
The fact is APB is very far from an open world. It relies on instancing a lot and is basically CS in a city.
It is a massive let down to people who had hopes of a persistent GTA 4 based game where you could live in a virtual city as a cop or crim. What we have instead is a very shallow but fun shoot em up game.
Such a shame as this could really have been excellent.
The subscription fee is pretty low so I don't get why people are crying about that. And actually there IS open world PvP. Play on a chaos server. Those were not in beta but will be in live. On a Chaos server you can attack the other faction at any time. However there was def a lot of hype that the game lied about. There was never any 20 vs 20 or 40 vs 40. Not even close. At most you have 8 vs 8. They also said crims could fight other crims. Never happened even once.
Now perhaps they are saving the huge scale fights and crim vs crim for an expansion or somehting but they made it sound like that wold be in the game from the get go and it is NOT.
The subscription fee is pretty low so I don't get why people are crying about that. And actually there IS open world PvP. Play on a chaos server. Those were not in beta but will be in live. On a Chaos server you can attack the other faction at any time. However there was def a lot of hype that the game lied about. There was never any 20 vs 20 or 40 vs 40. Not even close. At most you have 8 vs 8. They also said crims could fight other crims. Never happened even once.
Now perhaps they are saving the huge scale fights and crim vs crim for an expansion or somehting but they made it sound like that wold be in the game from the get go and it is NOT.
Well Akuma,
You have to think dude, it was in the beta. There were tons of people who never received a beta key. I have a good chunk sum of people who are coming with me to this game. The majority of them did not receive any beta keys at all, because they were not chosen for it. So maybe that will change your 8v8 ratio.
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NOT an MMO but more like co-op for XBOX 360.
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You don't need a subscription for the social district by the way. I've looked through this post, and many people really are uninformed about this game.
Open world insists I can walk around and do what I like, and I can. Infact there is talks of a chaos rules server at release where, if I feel like, I can kill anyone I please as well. So I can jump in on those people doing missions and blow the hell outta some crims or enforcers.
You don't need to pay monthly, you can pay hourly TO BE IN THE COMBAT DISTRICTS, the social district is free. If I want unlimited play in the combat areas I can pay 10 bucks a month. That sounds like a good deal to me.
APB sounds much better than paying 15 a month to jump in some stupid PVP Arena with less people, a Dynamis or raid with 40-60 other fucktards that can't cast a heal to save their life not to mention the retarded amount of time it takes to get the idiots together, or Aions end game shit pvp raids with even less people.
So for my money, I'll vote for APB. If not for anything but it's the best damn option on a pay scale and a fun scale for me.
And before people go ranting about how everything is instanced and background matchmaking, keep the chaos servers in mind.
I can see ABP getting boring, but not yet IMO. Question is do you buy something that may get old quick? i hope more content is available in beta soon, i have not been in any of those big shoot outs they talk about, just the free roam and missions, and pvp. But i will say the pvp is kinda of fun. Dont get me wrong im not trying to sell this game at all, just sharing my experience thus far. I also agree customizing does not make up for lack of content, i may have a badass looking car, but then what? All dressed up and no where to go?
They did? i didnt know, and usually im up on these things. Oh well, i believe it, thanks for the info!
I wish they had chaos servers in beta. It would have been nice to see how that would have worked. I can only bet it will be very hard to get much done in a chaos server. Idiots will camp the cop and crimal spawn locals and just shot each other all day. They should really have the NPCs get in on the fight instead of standing there. COurse then they'd be killable and assholes would kill them all day long so no one could do missions so I guess forget that idea.
Oh yeah, u can steal cars for maybe 3 minutes and rob stores for maybe 2 minutes before u get an APB on your ass.
This game ain't bad, but hell it's still content-less like hell.
2 instances, maybe 15 diff missions, about 12 primary weapons too (which are being patched everytime cuz the balance hasn't been found yet, it's just getting there).
Lags still pretty much, more than any MMO game u'll find around, even if it's still open beta.
Game progressed a lot lately tho, but the content won't be enhanced til a long time.
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You not only survived the zombie apocalypse, but did it with style! Your mastery of zombie knowledge, survival tactics, and weaponry is nearly unmatched. Congratulations, for you are hardcore!
Well I can see that as a crim. You don't just go on a crime spree and no one reacts. Dont like it be a cop. But crims make money way more easily than a cop! Ram Raids make a lot of cash in a small ammount of time.
Always makes me chuckle when I jump in a security van near-full of stolen stuff while the criminal watches in horror with the last item in his hands
"If all you can say is... "It's awful, it's not innovative, it's ugly, it's blah.." Then you're an unimaginative and unpolished excuse for human life" -eburn
I was in Beta, I'm in NA and I played int the European Beta, no lag for me.
To the person that says it's nothing like GTA... well, you don't have to repeatedly mash "A" to run and there isn't an elaborate story interspersed with cutscenes.
Gear matters but skill accounts more than any other MMO I've played, roll with a crew, communicate and use tactics and you'll be fine.
Your an ahole. :-p That's why it's better to work up to getting your own van and THEN do Ram Raids. No one can take your car then.
Not really. It wont save you from the guy with a 3 slotted gun with savage and 3 ability slots who has monolith, regen and survivor. Oh and you can be fighting this guy when your at least 100 rank beneath him. I dont think you really know what your saying. Skill doesnt matter as much as you think it does. Gear is king.
I'm not going to call it a bad game but I did the beta for a week, which i feel is enough time, and it just could not hold my attention. I kind felt like I was doing RvR over and over and over again like in WAR...sooner or later it just gets too repetitive. anyone else feel this way ?
Well in that case I guess I can share my experience with the beta. The game it self, simply put, is crap. It's below average shooter. 3rd person view is retarded in shooter games - I'm an old school Quake player and that is how I feel. City is instanced, each instance is suppose to support 100 players and devs promised such things ans 20 on 20 or even 40 on 40 fights (not sure any more). In my long beta play 99% of fights were 2 on 2 (since I was playing with a friend all the time). We had a few 3 on 3 or 4 on 4 fights. I can count on my hand number of times we fought in 8 vs 8 fights (and that was max). So this is in no way an MMO game.
For me this game is not worth 5$. It is my opinion after playing the beta. I'm sure some people will love it. I don't care even if it was free to play I would still not play it. It's just not any good in my book. And I do know it was only beta when I was playing it, but game will not change for 180° month or few from release.
Oh come on, district, lobby, they are all the same it is a restricted space which has a limit to the number of players. You are arguing semantics here. Again not a MMO, does not meet the massive definition in my book.
Nowhere did he say that it was open-world PVP.
It is an open-world. You meet other players all over the place. It's just that you can't fight everyone of them. For you to be able to fight anyone you have to be dispatched against them. Or alternatively you could get such a high threat level that a bounty is placed on your head and then you have your open world pvp. Everyone (well every criminal) can attack you and vice versa.
I'm fine with that.
I suggest you to take the time and read the 10 pages and you would realise how displaced your post is, after all the discussion was there. /facepalm
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I've been following this game for so many years. I was very very sad when they said that they where going to have a monthly subscription. I think it was a cheap move to hold people interested for so long.
I don't care about the social districts being free. I still have to commit to something, and pay a fee if I want to walk around and play the game and PvP. The free aspect is a hook. I was in beta, but I didn't even play it, because I got so frustrated with their choice.
In the end it does not matter. I only have time, money and resources for one game per month to pay a fee for. And I know that I will take a real MMORPG with all the broader gameplay styles and choices it offers me, than an large online action game.
APB might be great. Planetside was great too. But I refused to pay in the end, no matter how good it was. I just had to settle with BF2(64) players and other shooters. Same thing with APB. Maybe its possible that APB will beat the competition, but I will stick with Global Agenda as its not required to have a monthly fee to have fun and do some basic pvp'ing.. and on the side I will play GTA4 and Multi theft auto online. It's not ideal, but it will suffice, in small doses as I am playing my main MMORPG.
Thats the thing. APB would be a side dish to my real MMO. When I needed 5 minutes before dinner to do some gaming and get my action fix. I would never play APB enough to justify a fee long term.
It really, really sucks that they went with that fee. that was such a bad move.
i rather just pay the fee than the way overpriced $50 price tag
OK stop the personal attacks guys and endless quoting of each others posts.
The fact is APB is very far from an open world. It relies on instancing a lot and is basically CS in a city.
It is a massive let down to people who had hopes of a persistent GTA 4 based game where you could live in a virtual city as a cop or crim. What we have instead is a very shallow but fun shoot em up game.
Such a shame as this could really have been excellent.
The subscription fee is pretty low so I don't get why people are crying about that. And actually there IS open world PvP. Play on a chaos server. Those were not in beta but will be in live. On a Chaos server you can attack the other faction at any time. However there was def a lot of hype that the game lied about. There was never any 20 vs 20 or 40 vs 40. Not even close. At most you have 8 vs 8. They also said crims could fight other crims. Never happened even once.
Now perhaps they are saving the huge scale fights and crim vs crim for an expansion or somehting but they made it sound like that wold be in the game from the get go and it is NOT.
Well Akuma,
You have to think dude, it was in the beta. There were tons of people who never received a beta key. I have a good chunk sum of people who are coming with me to this game. The majority of them did not receive any beta keys at all, because they were not chosen for it. So maybe that will change your 8v8 ratio.
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