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ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/43938-forum-change-update.html#post893877

Yes, that means that those who are not subscribers won't be able to even view the subscribers forum (I saw Maerlyn confirming it on IRC). I think there is no other AAA mmos that do the same (correct me if I'm wrong).

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Maybe they just don't want to waste bandwidth on lookie loos. People will run here with every absurd assertion anyway so the spin doctoring is a waste of effort.

     

    Just disable non-subscribers from posting... that simple...  but to hide the entire forum?  image

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  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Member UncommonPosts: 647

    Originally posted by Toferio

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/43938-forum-change-update.html#post893877

    Yes, that means that those who are not subscribers won't be able to even view the subscribers forum (I saw Maerlyn confirming it on IRC). I think there is no other AAA mmos that do the same (correct me if I'm wrong).

    lol, complaints reaching out to the masses?  You know MO players venture outside of a single sub-section of a forum, right?  The beta section has always been restricted, yet every single negative post from that forum winds up here.  

    (but: I didn't see that IRC chat, it would be a curious decision)

  • OmaliOmali MMO Business CorrespondentMember UncommonPosts: 1,177

    Originally posted by Toferio

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/43938-forum-change-update.html#post893877

    Yes, that means that those who are not subscribers won't be able to even view the subscribers forum (I saw Maerlyn confirming it on IRC). I think there is no other AAA mmos that do the same (correct me if I'm wrong).

    Fallen Earth does not allow non-subscribers to view the subscriber only forum. I know this because a bug on my forum-game account linking is preventing me from viewing the subscriber forums, despite being subscribed.

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  • spankybusspankybus Member UncommonPosts: 1,367

    Originally posted by Toferio

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/43938-forum-change-update.html#post893877

    Yes, that means that those who are not subscribers won't be able to even view the subscribers forum (I saw Maerlyn confirming it on IRC). I think there is no other AAA mmos that do the same (correct me if I'm wrong).

    hmmm, that tells me they are worried about a lot of gripe.

     

    When subscribers are complaining en masse about a game at launch, that's not good marketing.

     

    I certainly do not know if this is the case, but I do see a lot of negative comments about the game on here. It seems like the overall consensus I read is that the game is very underdeveloped, but again, hearsay.

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  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Member UncommonPosts: 647

    Originally posted by spankybus

    Originally posted by Toferio

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/43938-forum-change-update.html#post893877

    Yes, that means that those who are not subscribers won't be able to even view the subscribers forum (I saw Maerlyn confirming it on IRC). I think there is no other AAA mmos that do the same (correct me if I'm wrong).

    hmmm, that tells me they are worried about a lot of gripe.

     

    When subscribers are complaining en masse about a game at launch, that's not good marketing.

     

    I certainly do not know if this is the case, but I do see a lot of negative comments about the game on here. It seems like the overall consensus I read is that the game is very underdeveloped, but again, hearsay.

    In my experience, people who gripe on the internet will typically do so wherever they have the most viewers.  So, all the fun and positive conversations will be evenly distributed, but all the negatives will either be in the public section of the forum, or repeatedly by 5 eerily coordinated posters here.  

    Just my opinion though

  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,536


    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by zymurgeist
    Maybe they just don't want to waste bandwidth on lookie loos. People will run here with every absurd assertion anyway so the spin doctoring is a waste of effort.
     
    Just disable non-subscribers from posting... that simple...  but to hide the entire forum? 

    Cryptic does this, we all know how well their games are.

    But hiding a whole forum does make you think.

  • ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

    Originally posted by funkmastaD

    lol, complaints reaching out to the masses?  You know MO players venture outside of a single sub-section of a forum, right?  The beta section has always been restricted, yet every single negative post from that forum winds up here.  

    (but: I didn't see that IRC chat, it would be a curious decision)

    Heh, I actually removed the complains part to make post more neutral.

    But I think that with hidden forums less info about current status of the game will get out, and even if it does, people won't be able to go see for them selves what are the hot discussions atm.

    Also I can't see how beta section is restricted if every registered member can view it?(Or did they change it)

  • ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

    Originally posted by Omali

    Originally posted by Toferio

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/43938-forum-change-update.html#post893877

    Yes, that means that those who are not subscribers won't be able to even view the subscribers forum (I saw Maerlyn confirming it on IRC). I think there is no other AAA mmos that do the same (correct me if I'm wrong).

    Fallen Earth does not allow non-subscribers to view the subscriber only forum. I know this because a bug on my forum-game account linking is preventing me from viewing the subscriber forums, despite being subscribed.

    Ow.. Fallen Earth is one of games I never played, thou I see their general forum being filled with topics about ingame stuff, so I assumed it was the sub forum aswell. Thanks for letting me know.

  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Member UncommonPosts: 647

    Originally posted by Toferio

    Originally posted by funkmastaD



    lol, complaints reaching out to the masses?  You know MO players venture outside of a single sub-section of a forum, right?  The beta section has always been restricted, yet every single negative post from that forum winds up here.  

    (but: I didn't see that IRC chat, it would be a curious decision)

    Heh, I actually removed the complains part to make post more neutral.

    But I think that with hidden forums less info about current status of the game will get out, and even if it does, people won't be able to go see for them selves what are the hot discussions atm.

    Also I can't see how beta section is restricted if every registered member can view it?(Or did they change it)

     

    The beta section is restricted to only those with access to the game.  During the open beta, then, everyone had access to that forum.  When open beta ended access to that forum was restricted accordingly... anyway, since OB ended  there's been quite a few people quoting posts and stuff from beta forum, so I figure the same will happen after launch.

    I'm not sure if I like the idea of subscriber-only viewing, but I suppose I could see some benefits.  At any rate, I'm a subscriber so maybe my opinion's skewed / less charged.

  • RohnRohn Member UncommonPosts: 3,730

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Maybe they just don't want to waste bandwidth on lookie loos. People will run here with every absurd assertion anyway so the spin doctoring is a waste of effort.

     

    Just disable non-subscribers from posting... that simple...  but to hide the entire forum?  image

     

    They won't be hiding the entire forum.

    They'll be doing the same thing Xsyon is doing with their forums currently.

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Rohn

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    Originally posted by zymurgeist

    Maybe they just don't want to waste bandwidth on lookie loos. People will run here with every absurd assertion anyway so the spin doctoring is a waste of effort.

     

    Just disable non-subscribers from posting... that simple...  but to hide the entire forum?  image

     

    They won't be hiding the entire forum.

    They'll be doing the same thing Xsyon is doing with their forums currently.

     

    Hidden beta forums are different than a game hiding their forums after launch.  image

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  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044

    For what it's worth SWG does the same thing. We all know why they do that.

    Not sure about the rest of $OEs games.

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  • LastChimeLastChime Member Posts: 107

      If you guys would just read the post linked in the title, says right there in plain letters there will be a small public section and a large area for customers.

      Where's the issue really, they most likely want their support staff to shift into dealing with their customers rather than whoever types in some letters and beats a captcha.

      Oh right and it's where their rampant fanboys can plot secret DOS attacks versus every other mmo in the free world.

  • randomtrandomt Member UncommonPosts: 1,220

    People still talking about this thing? I thought it would be long dead by now, what with the iffy coders and fascist idiot moderators (aka Maerlyn, the reason i lost all loyalty to Starvault)

  • ToferioToferio Member UncommonPosts: 1,411

    Originally posted by LastChime

      If you guys would just read the post linked in the title, says right there in plain letters there will be a small public section and a large area for customers.

      Where's the issue really, they most likely want their support staff to shift into dealing with their customers rather than whoever types in some letters and beats a captcha.

    Please dont mix together a complete hidden customer only forum, and customer only forum which outsiders can view but not write in.

  • funkmastaDfunkmastaD Member UncommonPosts: 647

    Originally posted by LastChime

      

      Oh right and it's where their rampant fanboys can plot secret DOS attacks versus every other mmo in the free world.

    Plan's changed; we're now just gonna be inexplicably hostile toward other mmo's on their mmorpg.com forum instead.   It just looks so easy.

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    Originally posted by bartoni33

    For what it's worth SWG does the same thing. We all know why they do that.

    Not sure about the rest of $OEs games.

    no they dont, i can read them just fine and i havent had a sub for over 2 years

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  • KhorsKhors Member Posts: 147

    Cryptic has a customer only forum, so does:

    - Fallen Earth

    - Xsyon

     

    What do they have to hide?

  • bartoni33bartoni33 Member RarePosts: 2,044

    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by bartoni33

    For what it's worth SWG does the same thing. We all know why they do that.

    Not sure about the rest of $OEs games.

    no they dont, i can read them just fine and i havent had a sub for over 2 years

    They must have changed it then. They used to not even let you see them if you were on your Vet Come-Back free weekends.

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  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,536


    Originally posted by Khors
    Cryptic has a customer only forum, so does:
    - Fallen Earth
    - Xsyon
     
    What do they have to hide?

    Being an ex-cryptic customer, the forum still looks the same to me. Unless they have a 'cool kids only' forum..

    DAMN YOU CRYPTIC!

  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Originally posted by Khors

    Cryptic has a customer only forum, so does:

    - Fallen Earth

    - Xsyon

     

    What do they have to hide?

    They just want to prevent you from reading all the raging :P They think and care about you!!!! lol!

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  • ryuga81ryuga81 Member UncommonPosts: 351


    Originally posted by Khors
    Cryptic has a customer only forum, so does:
    - Fallen Earth
    - Xsyon
     
    What do they have to hide?

    I enjoyed Fallen Earth for some time (nowadays i just can't afford a sub for a game that i can play a few hours a week at most), there is a public forum and a subscriber-only one, though i didn't see much rage on subscribers forum when i played (and most flames were about this or that skill imbalance rather than structural defects, nothing unseen on every other MMO forum)

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686

    Originally posted by Toferio

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/43938-forum-change-update.html#post893877

    Yes, that means that those who are not subscribers won't be able to even view the subscribers forum (I saw Maerlyn confirming it on IRC). I think there is no other AAA mmos that do the same (correct me if I'm wrong).

     A forum for subscribers and another for others were what Age of Conan had. At least in the beginning. Dont know if it is still that way though.

  • TarkaTarka Member Posts: 1,662

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Toferio

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/43938-forum-change-update.html#post893877

    Yes, that means that those who are not subscribers won't be able to even view the subscribers forum (I saw Maerlyn confirming it on IRC). I think there is no other AAA mmos that do the same (correct me if I'm wrong).

     A forum for subscribers and another for others were what Age of Conan had. At least in the beginning. Dont know if it is still that way though.

     Like many other MMO's, AOC has just one forum that both subs and non-subs can view for each different areas of the globe (US, English Speaking Europeans, French, Polish, etc).  However, only subs can post in it.

  • Aragon100Aragon100 Member RarePosts: 2,686

    Originally posted by Tarka

    Originally posted by Aragon100

    Originally posted by Toferio

    http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/43938-forum-change-update.html#post893877

    Yes, that means that those who are not subscribers won't be able to even view the subscribers forum (I saw Maerlyn confirming it on IRC). I think there is no other AAA mmos that do the same (correct me if I'm wrong).

     A forum for subscribers and another for others were what Age of Conan had. At least in the beginning. Dont know if it is still that way though.

     Like many other MMO's, AOC has just one forum that both subs and non-subs can view for each different areas of the globe (US, English Speaking Europeans, French, Polish, etc).  However, only subs can post in it.

    Ok they changed it then, in the beginning of the game it was closed areas for non subscribers. 

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