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Which oldschool MMO is currently most worth playing?
LotosSlayer
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From these: DaoC, Lineage 2, EQ, AC
So yeah, I dunno if I can play another current post-WoW MMO again lol. I know there's more, so go ahead and suggest it if you feel it's the most worth playing, except AO and FFXI. I played AO for 4 years on and off, I was playing FFXI and loving it until they started using that retarded securecode thing so I couldn't use my debit card for it. I was hesitant to try these games before because I assumed they would have really low pops now, since that's what happened with AO and a lot of people say they're dead. The most important things for me are a big pop, grouping, finding groups with ease.
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Im biased but im going to say EQ1. Still best MMO out there just gotta be ok with the ridiculous AA grind that u will need to do and get them early as possible meaning 65 - 70 because after that AA xp starts to slow down greatly compared to those levels.
Gold is right. Even though the current state of EQ is a bastardized unrecognizable tornado of "what the hell happened?" to us vets, it's recent additions are quite well done and it's support is still available as well as a surprisingly healthy playerbase.
If memory serves me, they just did another server merge. The population will be even more dense now. It IS fairly elite-friendly, meaning most content that is released is raid-oriented but it still receives content that is relevant to everyone else.
DAOC and AC I have heard are barren. I will also add that EQ is a little more difficult to solo for any class comparatively. They added mercenaries which essentially act as companion bots that follow you around, and assist you while adventuring. They come in two flavors: melee/tank mercs that help with DPS and aggro management and healer based mercs that will heal/buff/resurrect you (which is invaluable, really, in EQ).
Hope it helps.
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DAoC only has one server so it's quite active, but don't expect to see too many people under level 50. The good thing is leveling is super fast, and many of the game's major timesinks have been removed.
AC is pretty much dead and has graphics comparable to runescape (if that bothers you). It has deep character progresion and an entertaining world, but with so few players these days, there's little point in playing.
Lineage II is still a great game, but it's currently in a bit of a decline. It's a bit easier to level up, and is a bit more accesible to new players, but newbies have a lot of grinding ahead of them to catch up to the majority of the playerbase.
EQ is probably the most populated of the games you listed and is probably the easiest to level in next to DAoC, but the downside is the AA grind, meaning you will be going up against players who have literally thousands of AAs and over ten years of experience on their toons. It's not a huge grind in terms of gear or progression these days, but expect to spend a bit of time increasing those AAs.
Overall, I recommend you try DAoC or EQ. If not, try Lineage II, but I do not recommend AC.
Asheron's Call by far, it has a massive world with lots of interesting places to explore. The quests are pretty damn good too, with a lot of unconvential rewards like teleport spells. An example being the Aerfalle quest gets you a teleport spell to Aerlinthe Island. The crafting system is unlike any other game, instead of creating items, you upgrade them (although you can make like potions and healing kits and food).
The combat system allows more player skill than any MMORPG ever created. It's really fast paced, and you can actually move out of the way of projectiles to avoid taking damage from them. It's such a great combat system that a really skillful player can take on odds of 1v10 who are just as well if not better equipped than themselves. Probably because combat isn't on a countdown timer since you can restore all vitals at any time with the proper spells and skills. It's the perfect game for solo play and does group play quite well too.
The character creation system allows full control over what path you want to take with your character. I've seen sword mages who switch between war magic and sword skill, archers and melee characters who are specialized in resisting magic, mages who switch to dagger from time to time.
Edit: the poster above me makes a fair point about the graphics, although I'm not sure if the game is dead, the last time I played Darktide it was quite active.
Well they just added June 9th DPS mercenaries and they come in 2 flavors aswell. Caster DPS and Melee DPS. Hope that helps aswell and the server merge is starting june 22th and ending july 1st i think when they are spose to be all done merging.
If you like PVP then DAOC for sure.
If you like PVE then EQ.
No old school game can touch either in those categories
Runescape.
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Somehow in a WoW universe, Runescape managed to get a million subs and unlike most games the population is increasing, not decreasing.
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Runescape is an old game with old game values.
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I've never played it personally, but I plan to at some point.
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Runescape is a good game, I played it for a long time but it has no grouping, as in you can't even form groups in the game.
I'll be more specific, the most important part for me is the group leveling and the content before end-game. I'm not gunna rush to end-game so stuff like PvP and end-game aren't as important. More help would be really appreciated, monthly subs are actually a lot of money to me so I wanna make the right choice.
DAoC is dead, it is not what we used to love, it just now a WoW clone trying to rake in money. Though there ARE classic emus which are very fun, and lively.
About AC1, it USED to be a good game, until Turbine started to just take everything from AC2 and throw it in there. Therefore it loses my vote. (Still try it though it was really fun to be honest)
EQ1 was not too terrible soloing, of course you HAVE to play a Necro/BL. Though to the poster above me who said just a buy a character, don't listen to him. It ruins the fun if you don't experiance the actual game. He probably buys currency for his characters as well... Anyways, just go online there a some (Though a minority) that would be willing to help you out, or join the game with a friend.
AC is great, and far from barren or dead. Due to all the additions and improvements the player numbers have been going up all year.
They just patched today which made a big improvement to the landscape textures, they also added a new race of Gear Knights (which look bad ass) and took all the town portals scattered around the world and put them into one easy to get to network. All 3 are great additions/improvements and that has been the pace of this game for about 8-10 months now, and these updates are always free.
You get new content each month (they are talking on their forums of another sweep of quest xp upgrades for July, last time they did it in January it was about 70 quests), and there are two more new races coming this year.
The game is getting worked on hard, and it is a blast to play. It plays a lot different then other MMOs and is face pased.
Definetly worth downloading the trial and giving it a shot.
DAOC is not and will never be a WOW clone. If anything WOW is more of a clone of DAOC
DAOC is however down to one server cluster that shares the same frontiers. If PVP is your thing and the population of servers other than the one you play on doesnt matter then DAOC can still give you solid pvp.
As of this post Ywain cluster has 3083 accounts logged in. Hardly a ghost town if all you care about is the poplulation of the server you play on.
First of all, DAoC is not dead. They just recently merged everything into 1 server, so there are plenty of people around just not really low level. Second of all, HOW DARE YOU call DAoC a WoW clone, when it predates that game by what, 5 years?
To the OP : I agree with the majority here that DAoC or EQ would be your best bets, depending on whether you like PvP or PvE. But let me offer a newer suggestion. EQ2 is having a promotion thats free to play with all expansions (except the brand new lvl 80-90 expansion) and if you decide to stay, its only $14.99 ish to activate and keep all those expansions free. I have been gaming since Meridian 59 and UO and have tried just about everything out there. I have found myself going back to EQ2 over and over because it is simply one of the best games out there.
DaoC a WoW clone? As in they added quest progression for leveling? If so then DaoC is not the most worth playing. The main reason I wanna play an oldschool MMO is because I wanna do group grinding.
Not the original DAoC lol, I'm talking about the future expansions etc... That just copied WoW's style/fighting easiness. I still play DAoC classic, on an emu. Same thing happened to SWG, it was an amazing game until they lost too many subs to WoW, they tried taking the idea of instant gratification and well... Now you can see how both the games are now.
Don't get me wrong, I love my Troll Skald, I miss him dearly as well, but DAoC is nothing compared to classic.
EVE and the City of games of the old school persuasion are probably still fresh feeling.
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Of the games you listed, you'll have the best chance at finding groups in EQ. It's the only game out of the ones you listed that still come out with an expansion each year, and still have quite a few servers and each servers still having a few large raid guilds. It's nothing like the old EQ you remember, as the game itself has changed & evolved to fit more with today's genre. But it's probably the most populated old school MMO out there, not counting asian MMO's.
EQ1-AC1-DAOC-FFXI-L2-EQ2-WoW-DDO-GW-LoTR-VG-WAR-GW2-ESO
You may have a hard time finding groups while leveling in EQ 1, because most of the population is at max level. That could be a problem with the other MMO's you listed too.
Someone else mentioned City of Heroes. It's been over a year since I've played it, but that game probably has the most active low-to-mid level scene in any of the older MMO's since players there tend to reroll new characters all the time.
Well, after reading through the whole thread I 'm starting to think you'd like Final Fantasy XI
it 's not in your list but it 'll have everything you want.
Asheron's Call 1.
Best MMO ever made. It was MUCH MUCH MUCH better than EQ1 in basically every way possible. But was always living under EQ1's shadow because it was never marketed properly by the idiots at Microsoft an came out after EQ1...
If AC1 would have came out first... it would have been the king of MMO's back than rather than EQ1..
Yeah City of Heroes/Villains has just gotten a new issue (basically a patch that adds some content but not a full blown expan.) and will be getting its first true expansion soon. Just started back up after about year layoff. So far so good. I quite WoW cause I was tired of getting my account hacked (ok it only happened twice but the last time Blizz's customer service was horrible and I was getting tired of all the emails and whispers in game that were hackers trying to get my account that I had had enough, every since the battle.net account thing, oh well. But yeah the CoH/V game is great give it a try.
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Thanks for the advice guys. I haven't decided yet but I've got it down to EQ or L2.
DaoC or UO would be my choice, both still have good pop's for there age and I believe both received expansions not long ago.
Since UO isn't on your list oO ... I'd say DaoC.
EQ is close to WoW as WoW was largely based off of EQ lol. L2 is an Asian grinder if thats your thing. AC wasn't one I ever got into but thats just me.
Hehe, the best oldschool game on the market right now is Darkfall. If there is a game the furthest from being WoW clone it's DF (well, EVE perhaps even further, but it's SF). But yeah, FFA Full Loot even for many oldschool gamers is too much...
Yep, it's even got an interface and general control scheme that will make you pull your hair out, just like in the old days.
Seriously, who can I blame for the right-clicker cursor toggle and the shifting from third to first-person just to loot/interact?
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If you liked Everquest then this is the modern day version. From the original creator of EQ. Its what EQ2 should have been imo.
Great crafting, diverse classes. Some very original and unique. Diplomacy system. Amazing houses. You can craft your own boats Etc. Its a good game that more people need to try.
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