If your game is not better then WoW on *ALL* aspects and fronts, open your source folder, hit Ctrl-A then the Delete key.
Thanks.
So the only mmo besides WoW would be Eve then?
Nothing compares to WoW when it comes to themepark or sandbox with the exception of eve due to it being radically different from everything else on the market.
One person being laid off doesn't constitute "a new round of layoffs".
Is it just one guy or were others let go?
well, this is from his twitter account:
Quick note, then I'm going offline for a while: WAR isn't dying. The game is better now than ever before and more goodness is on the way. about 1 hour ago via web
Take a close look people. This same thing is going to happen to Bioware.
Blizzard, too. And ArenaNet. And CCP. And SOE. And... eh, what the hell, let's throw in Turbine as well.
Or did you have any evidence to suggest that it'll only happen to BioWare?
Because EA doesn't own Blizzard, ArenaNet, CCP or SOE.
The main point there is that when Mythic and Bioware signed on with EA they became simply brands within a large corporate structure. There is no more Mythic or Bioware, any more than there is a Bullfrog or Origin Systems.
They're slapping the Bioware sticker on TOR because it suits their purpose. Bioware has a good reputation in the gaming community and EA will trade off that reputation as much as they can. Mythic's very public failure with WAR (be it their own fault, EA's bad management or a combination) virtually assures the Mythic brand will eventually be put out to pasture - sooner rather than later if TOR proves to be a hit.
I'm more inclined to blame EA since they have a reputation for being greedy fuckers that treat their employees like shit. Also just about every game they release is severely over rated since thye rely heavily on their publishing/advertising hype machine.
I guess we'll see what the deal is once TOR comes around. I'm still pissed for EA shutting down EnB in favor of the fucking sims online. It is true though, if their MMO isn't competing realistically with WoW or the 'big dogs' in general almost out of the gate they see no reason to give it full support. Maybe they can figure out a way to exclusive rights to making MMO's so they can be mmo giants the same way they are NFL giants lol.
I never cheer or get excited when someone is put out of work.
However when the game they made was a disastor and a giant poorly designed mess, I don't have sympathy for the outcome either. When you make a terrible product, and your company can't get back it's investment/make a decent profit off of that product, you are going to be let go.
How a product like WAR got out the door with such a big budget and a big company behind it in this modern age of MMOs is baffling. It is sad how long they are letting it dribble on before just closing the doors and cutting their losses, the game will never draw in a big crowd, ever. It's only going to keep going downhill, so just close it.
Im surprised they did not just absorb these people into the group that is making SWTOR. The way its shaping up, and with how many "we cant talk about that now" answers we are getting, it seems like they could use as many people as possible to get this out for release.
I'm still suprised that Mutt and Jeff are still working at Mythic. All I remember was seeing those 2 clowns crack jokes on there WAR trailers knowing full well the game was incomplete. If anyone needs to go then they need to go first not Josh.
WAR is the most un original game with great artists
Being video gamers, it might not be immediately obvious to you, but the Warhammer universe (both 40k and fantasy) is one of the largest settings for miniatures gaming. MMOs are only the latest in a series of RPG markets to latch onto these settings and try to hybridize them into something playable, with limited and various levels of success. Knocking WAR for being unoriginal is, itself, unoriginal. But don't act surprised that a successful IP was tapped to make a MMO. *cough*TOR*cough*STO*cough*
Well when the producer dojour states that "if you don't like the game then why are you here?" You pretty much know the game is dead. Having a shitty PVE game then instead of improving it gutting it in favor of Counter Strike with swords was prehaps the most stupid thing any devloper could do.
Then there is the total lack of crafting gathering, or anything else that would keep the non scociopaths playing. Yes I know kill them in the face..guess what? It only made more people quit.
GW actually apologzied for WAR at the Baltimore games day, and said it would not happen to the next GW MMO or GW game period. They are angry embarassed and they have every right to be.
WAR is fail fire that idiot producer and sunset the game, THQ will be bringing us a much better experiance.
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Blizzard, too. And ArenaNet. And CCP. And SOE. And... eh, what the hell, let's throw in Turbine as well.
Or did you have any evidence to suggest that it'll only happen to BioWare?
Soooooooooo many signs that the game is dying (if not dead).
Its almost dead already, last time time when i played it was very empty.
they need to do somethi9ng about that maybe add a big major continent or expansion or make war f2p
Actually, I can blame EA. I've seen them part out too many other companies. They're greedy SOB's, and it has only gotten worse as time has gone on.
It really is a shame after the strides that Mythic has made to correct issues and improve the game.
One person being laid off doesn't constitute "a new round of layoffs".
Is it just one guy or were others let go?
Dear MMO Developers,
If your game is not better then WoW on *ALL* aspects and fronts, open your source folder, hit Ctrl-A then the Delete key.
Thanks.
So the only mmo besides WoW would be Eve then?
Nothing compares to WoW when it comes to themepark or sandbox with the exception of eve due to it being radically different from everything else on the market.
The kid was laid off already, sorry.
You forgot Vigil aswell.
well, this is from his twitter account:
Quick note, then I'm going offline for a while: WAR isn't dying. The game is better now than ever before and more goodness is on the way. about 1 hour ago via web
70ms I honestly have no idea who else was let go. They marched me out first. about 2 hours ago via web in reply to 70ms
FYI: I can't get into details (and, in fact, don't HAVE many more details), but it was a layoff. I wasn't fired and I still love Mythic.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Damn, that's a sad shame. Perhaps we'll never see DAOC 2?
Because EA doesn't own Blizzard, ArenaNet, CCP or SOE.
The main point there is that when Mythic and Bioware signed on with EA they became simply brands within a large corporate structure. There is no more Mythic or Bioware, any more than there is a Bullfrog or Origin Systems.
They're slapping the Bioware sticker on TOR because it suits their purpose. Bioware has a good reputation in the gaming community and EA will trade off that reputation as much as they can. Mythic's very public failure with WAR (be it their own fault, EA's bad management or a combination) virtually assures the Mythic brand will eventually be put out to pasture - sooner rather than later if TOR proves to be a hit.
I'm more inclined to blame EA since they have a reputation for being greedy fuckers that treat their employees like shit. Also just about every game they release is severely over rated since thye rely heavily on their publishing/advertising hype machine.
I guess we'll see what the deal is once TOR comes around. I'm still pissed for EA shutting down EnB in favor of the fucking sims online. It is true though, if their MMO isn't competing realistically with WoW or the 'big dogs' in general almost out of the gate they see no reason to give it full support. Maybe they can figure out a way to exclusive rights to making MMO's so they can be mmo giants the same way they are NFL giants lol.
Mythic took a gamble going with EA, and unfortunately it bite them butt.
I hope other developers/companies sees what happens when you dabble with EA.
Others were let go too but they were not as important as Josh.
I never cheer or get excited when someone is put out of work.
However when the game they made was a disastor and a giant poorly designed mess, I don't have sympathy for the outcome either. When you make a terrible product, and your company can't get back it's investment/make a decent profit off of that product, you are going to be let go.
How a product like WAR got out the door with such a big budget and a big company behind it in this modern age of MMOs is baffling. It is sad how long they are letting it dribble on before just closing the doors and cutting their losses, the game will never draw in a big crowd, ever. It's only going to keep going downhill, so just close it.
WAR sucks anyway...let it die and start development on DAoC 2.
Feel sorry for Josh but he will be back to work asap I hope. He was actually on of the better workers there at Mythic.
Im surprised they did not just absorb these people into the group that is making SWTOR. The way its shaping up, and with how many "we cant talk about that now" answers we are getting, it seems like they could use as many people as possible to get this out for release.
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I'm still suprised that Mutt and Jeff are still working at Mythic. All I remember was seeing those 2 clowns crack jokes on there WAR trailers knowing full well the game was incomplete. If anyone needs to go then they need to go first not Josh.
aww man that stinks. I liked Josh quite a lot
You did; it was called WAR. They delivered a mediocer product and this is what happens.
Being video gamers, it might not be immediately obvious to you, but the Warhammer universe (both 40k and fantasy) is one of the largest settings for miniatures gaming. MMOs are only the latest in a series of RPG markets to latch onto these settings and try to hybridize them into something playable, with limited and various levels of success. Knocking WAR for being unoriginal is, itself, unoriginal. But don't act surprised that a successful IP was tapped to make a MMO. *cough*TOR*cough*STO*cough*
Well when the producer dojour states that "if you don't like the game then why are you here?" You pretty much know the game is dead. Having a shitty PVE game then instead of improving it gutting it in favor of Counter Strike with swords was prehaps the most stupid thing any devloper could do.
Then there is the total lack of crafting gathering, or anything else that would keep the non scociopaths playing. Yes I know kill them in the face..guess what? It only made more people quit.
GW actually apologzied for WAR at the Baltimore games day, and said it would not happen to the next GW MMO or GW game period. They are angry embarassed and they have every right to be.
WAR is fail fire that idiot producer and sunset the game, THQ will be bringing us a much better experiance.