And so the unethical behavior begins....

HerculesSAS

 

Just a matter of time before your account gets hit. Please keep an eye on your credit card statements and/or PayPal, as it seems like SV is starting to charge people already.

Besttheiswow

Well im a preorder guy..i had a full month, and because after release the server is down dozens of times a day they give me an extra month, but yesterday it was gonne so they removed it again....what a joke...SV is the epitome of unprofessionalism, unethical, crapp quality.

 

Gimme back dark and light...it was a AAA++++ game compared to MO...

PyrateLV

Originally posted by HerculesSAS

 

Just a matter of time before your account gets hit. Please keep an eye on your credit card statements and/or PayPal, as it seems like SV is starting to charge people already.

 

 

I just posted that.

I wouldnt be so quick to jump on the "Unethical Behavior" bandwagon just yet.

It might just be a billing error. Ive contacted MO/SV CS and submitted a ticket.

Do you just look for any reason to hate on this game and SV? Im the one that got charged an Im not screaming fraud.

Seriously dude, get a life.

HerculesSAS

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Originally posted by HerculesSAS

 

Just a matter of time before your account gets hit. Please keep an eye on your credit card statements and/or PayPal, as it seems like SV is starting to charge people already.

 

 

I just posted that.

I wouldnt be so quick to jump on the "Unethical Behavior" bandwagon just yet.

It might just be a billing error. Ive contacted MO/SV CS and submitted a ticket.

Do you just look for any reason to hate on this game and SV? Im the one that got charged an Im not screaming fraud.

Seriously dude, get a life.

It's an advisory message more than anything -- people should check to see if they also got charged.

 

And the unethical behavior points more to the auto-renew billing than it does anything else. Let's see if you get your money back.

merieke82

Not sure why this is causing epic raging. I preordered and have not been billed. Sorry for those of you who have, but I highly doubt its going to kill you and your offspring. Notify customer service and if they don't fix it then come here and rage.

Besttheiswow

Fiasco is the word i was looking for...Fiasco describes the whole MO, SV and everything that it has..Game quality..lack of it i mean, beta stage still not ready for even an open beta, quality standarts of SV are inexistent in every aspect, 6 year ago if a game like this released they would get arrested..but now every games is so used to unfinished alfa test games getting released..that they overlook what the game is in reality..a complete fiasco..

 

where on earth is the common sence and quality standarts of the consumers??? its gonne??

 

I dare a site or magazine to review Mortal online...they can not, why??

 

Because if they review MO they are getting very low also..and will have to start reviewing every mod made by fans of every game on earth, and start reviewing every indy and sub indy game available that nobody ever heard of...

 

Yes..MO is in fact a Unreal engine mod made by amateur fans of ultima online (SV)

Badem

Since the billing is outsourced (as per EU laws) it is likely something went wrong with the billing firm, in which case Pirate ahs done the right thing by bringing it up to the support team,

I am still showing my intial activation with no more billing needed until 9th July

PyrateLV

Originally posted by MiteFiend

(Mod Edit)

 

 My account shows that I have an extra month and shouldnt be charged till Aug 20th.

Being charged early is bad, but its not like it was with Aventurine/Darkfall.

Those Fkers charged me 3 times in a row for that game and it took me over a month to get my money back.

Badem

Originally posted by Besttheiswow

Fiasco is the word i was looking for...Fiasco describes the whole MO, SV and everything that it has..Game quality..lack of it i mean, beta stage still not ready for even an open beta, quality standarts of SV are inexistent in every aspect, 6 year ago if a game like this released they would get arrested..but now every games is so used to unfinished alfa test games getting released..that they overlook what the game is in reality..a complete fiasco..

 

where on earth is the common sence and quality standarts of the consumers??? its gonne??

 

I dare a site or magazine to review Mortal online...they can not, why??

 

Because if they review MO they are getting very low also..and will have to start reviewing every mod made by fans of every game on earth, and start reviewing every indy and sub indy game available that nobody ever heard of...

 

Yes..MO is in fact a Unreal engine mod made by amateur fans of ultima online (SV)

 Would you like some toilet paper cos no offence your talking crap

Unreal is used by a LOT of developers, saying MO is an unreal mod is like saying Unreal is a mod based on C++ coding...

FYI games using Unreal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games

Besttheiswow

My sub was suposed to get charged 14 August..so 2 month gameplay in total..its the least they could do, if we look at the game wannabe, and the uptime of the servers and gameplay MO has...in sum the disgrace the game is...

But they removed 1 month lol so now its over the day 14 july...and 14 july the game is still the mess it was when suposed beta started..they dont even have a clue on how to fix a damn npc multiple respawn bug...wtf?

I go to the library i see 6-8 copyes of the same npc..that should never ever be possible not even in beta.

HerculesSAS

Originally posted by Obidom

Originally posted by Besttheiswow

Fiasco is the word i was looking for...Fiasco describes the whole MO, SV and everything that it has..Game quality..lack of it i mean, beta stage still not ready for even an open beta, quality standarts of SV are inexistent in every aspect, 6 year ago if a game like this released they would get arrested..but now every games is so used to unfinished alfa test games getting released..that they overlook what the game is in reality..a complete fiasco..

 

where on earth is the common sence and quality standarts of the consumers??? its gonne??

 

I dare a site or magazine to review Mortal online...they can not, why??

 

Because if they review MO they are getting very low also..and will have to start reviewing every mod made by fans of every game on earth, and start reviewing every indy and sub indy game available that nobody ever heard of...

 

Yes..MO is in fact a Unreal engine mod made by amateur fans of ultima online (SV)

 Would you like some toilet paper cos no offence your talking crap

Unreal is used by a LOT of developers, saying MO is an unreal mod is like saying Unreal is a mod based on C++ coding...

FYI games using Unreal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games

Yes, and if you look at that list of games, they have functionality that is not in the engine, that has to be developed.

 

The functionality of MO is available in mods for Unreal. That's basically what he is saying, that is is no more impressive than Age of Chivalry (a free, source mod) in terms of gameplay, and there are mods that have more depth of play than MO.

 

Heck, if you want to compare the list of games there to MO, it's almost a joke to think about how bad MO is compared to any of them.

PyrateLV

Ok, it seems that this is MY FAULT, not SV.

When they did the Forum change I went to link my game account to my forum account and it showed that I hadnt entered my CC info for my sub. So I did.

Appearantly in doing that I inadvertantly purchased another month.

 

So all you haters can get off the "SV Sucks" truck now.

The error is mine, not theirs

HerculesSAS

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Ok, it seems that this is MY FAULT, not SV.

When they did the Forum change I went to link my game account to my forum account and it showed that I hadnt entered my CC info for my sub. So I did.

Appearantly in doing that I inadvertantly purchased another month.

 

So all you haters can get off the "SV Sucks" truck now.

The error is mine, not theirs

If you can purchase a single month by itself, then that system is designed to rip you off.

 

You're still entitled to a refund if you didn't want that month.

 

And I'd still suggest people be on the lookout for charges from SV.

Diekfoo

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Ok, it seems that this is MY FAULT, not SV.

When they did the Forum change I went to link my game account to my forum account and it showed that I hadnt entered my CC info for my sub. So I did.

Appearantly in doing that I inadvertantly purchased another month.

 

So all you haters can get off the "SV Sucks" truck now.

The error is mine, not theirs

Good to see the reason why that happen. Thanks for clearing that out. It wasn't Star Vaults fault and they don't off course try to rip someone off. 

The haters can now crawl back into the hole they came from. It's laughable how some tries to make this into a rip off thing. 

Badem

Originally posted by HerculesSAS

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Ok, it seems that this is MY FAULT, not SV.

When they did the Forum change I went to link my game account to my forum account and it showed that I hadnt entered my CC info for my sub. So I did.

Appearantly in doing that I inadvertantly purchased another month.

 

So all you haters can get off the "SV Sucks" truck now.

The error is mine, not theirs

If you can purchase a single month by itself, then that system is designed to rip you off.

 

You're still entitled to a refund if you didn't want that month.

 

And I'd still suggest people be on the lookout for charges from SV.

 Your posting reminds me of the Blind Doom Sayer

http://hollywoodjesus.com/movie/little_nicky/cross.jpg

Agricola1

Well I haven't been charged for my subscription yet so unless you have kind of proof I say that this is starting to get kind of old with the hate crusade against SV.

You don't like the game, you don't like the company, you accuse them of scamming but never provide any proof just lame accusations of what their intentions might be with some stupid Nostrodamus crap that you and your cohorts have been preaching the last year.

This got old in 2009 dude, why not just give it a rest and go play Xyson then complain about how Notorious Games are the great Satan for a year or two!

zwildiris

If it is any help.  Horizons accounting was way worse when they switched to demo mode.  They had you enter ALL your personal infomation including credit card, THEN had you enter your key... which was a invalid key. 

Now that was unethical.

funkmastaD

This thread is epic.  The guy with the billing dispute is IN THIS FORUM, yet it's Herc whose trying to rally the mob of pitchforks... it's like no one's listening to the guy whose going "Maybe I reacted too quickly", and instead are just taking this opportunity to dogpile.

Slapshot1188

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Ok, it seems that this is MY FAULT, not SV.

When they did the Forum change I went to link my game account to my forum account and it showed that I hadnt entered my CC info for my sub. So I did.

Appearantly in doing that I inadvertantly purchased another month.

 

So all you haters can get off the "SV Sucks" truck now.

The error is mine, not theirs

 WUT?

Their website showed that you hadn't entered your CC info.. so you did.   This apparently triggered billing you $14.xx

 

Somehow this is the users fault?

funkmastaD

Originally posted by Slapshot1188

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Ok, it seems that this is MY FAULT, not SV.

When they did the Forum change I went to link my game account to my forum account and it showed that I hadnt entered my CC info for my sub. So I did.

Appearantly in doing that I inadvertantly purchased another month.

 

So all you haters can get off the "SV Sucks" truck now.

The error is mine, not theirs

 WUT?

Their website showed that you hadn't entered your CC info.. so you did.   This apparently triggered billing you $14.xx

 

Somehow this is the users fault?

 

Dude, you have no idea what happened...

Badem

Man I wish I was at home so i could break out the popcorn and Cream soda

mcrippins

Originally posted by Besttheiswow

Fiasco is the word i was looking for...Fiasco describes the whole MO, SV and everything that it has..Game quality..lack of it i mean, beta stage still not ready for even an open beta, quality standarts of SV are inexistent in every aspect, 6 year ago if a game like this released they would get arrested..but now every games is so used to unfinished alfa test games getting released..that they overlook what the game is in reality..a complete fiasco..

 

where on earth is the common sence and quality standarts of the consumers??? its gonne??

 

I dare a site or magazine to review Mortal online...they can not, why??

 

Because if they review MO they are getting very low also..and will have to start reviewing every mod made by fans of every game on earth, and start reviewing every indy and sub indy game available that nobody ever heard of...

 

Yes..MO is in fact a Unreal engine mod made by amateur fans of ultima online (SV)

I guess you didn't know... companies use other company's engines ALL THE TIME! Especially the Unreal engine! EPIC has been providing companies with engines for probably the last 10 years and I would guess it is also the most often used engine in games. It's fine if you didn't know this before.. but calling a game a mod due to a company using anothers' engine is ridiculous.

HerculesSAS

Originally posted by funkmastaD

This thread is epic.  The guy with the billing dispute is IN THIS FORUM, yet it's Herc whose trying to rally the mob of pitchforks... it's like no one's listening to the guy whose going "Maybe I reacted too quickly", and instead are just taking this opportunity to dogpile.

Yes, and all I'm saying is that people should be aware of this and check their credit card statements.

 

I don't see how it's that big a deal. SV already showed us they don't care about customers by auto-subscribing people who didn't choose to be, so it's not a stretch to think they'd bill incorrectly too.

HerculesSAS

Originally posted by afropuff420

Originally posted by Besttheiswow

Fiasco is the word i was looking for...Fiasco describes the whole MO, SV and everything that it has..Game quality..lack of it i mean, beta stage still not ready for even an open beta, quality standarts of SV are inexistent in every aspect, 6 year ago if a game like this released they would get arrested..but now every games is so used to unfinished alfa test games getting released..that they overlook what the game is in reality..a complete fiasco..

 

where on earth is the common sence and quality standarts of the consumers??? its gonne??

 

I dare a site or magazine to review Mortal online...they can not, why??

 

Because if they review MO they are getting very low also..and will have to start reviewing every mod made by fans of every game on earth, and start reviewing every indy and sub indy game available that nobody ever heard of...

 

Yes..MO is in fact a Unreal engine mod made by amateur fans of ultima online (SV)

I guess you didn't know... companies use other company's engines ALL THE TIME! Especially the Unreal engine! EPIC has been providing companies with engines for probably the last 10 years and I would guess it is also the most often used engine in games. It's fine if you didn't know this before.. but calling a game a mod due to a company using anothers' engine is ridiculous.

Yes, and EPIC also provides people the ability to make MODS with their engine.

 

The tools and features in MO more closely resemble a MOD, than a fully fleshed out game. But what can you expect when the lead developer was an amateur mod writer for Unreal?

Badem

Originally posted by HerculesSAS

Originally posted by funkmastaD

This thread is epic.  The guy with the billing dispute is IN THIS FORUM, yet it's Herc whose trying to rally the mob of pitchforks... it's like no one's listening to the guy whose going "Maybe I reacted too quickly", and instead are just taking this opportunity to dogpile.

Yes, and all I'm saying is that people should be aware of this and check their credit card statements.

 

I don't see how it's that big a deal. SV already showed us they don't care about customers by auto-subscribing people who didn't choose to be, so it's not a stretch to think they'd bill incorrectly too.

 WAIT!!

The sun is going to come up tomorrow, everyone dont panic, its perfectly normal!!!

 

Oh and the moon will come up too, adn it will get bigger and bigger everynight till its FULL!!! then it gets smaller and smaller till its gone ... and then it grows bigger and bigger till its full !!

 

Whaaaaaaa :P

funkmastaD

Originally posted by HerculesSAS

 

Yes, and EPIC also provides people the ability to make MODS with their engine.

 

The tools and features in MO more closely resemble a MOD, than a fully fleshed out game. But what can you expect when the lead developer was an amateur mod writer for Unreal?

 

Why all the personal attacks on SV?   

Although you're right in that nothing good has ever come from modest beginnings.  And that everyone should trust your claims.

 

CCP made trading cards before they made EVE... does EVE suck now?