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Man the combat looks like crap.

Seeing newer and newer gameplay footage, this game just looks worse and worse lol. It all looks really slow and out of place, like KOTOR had a really bad combat system, but it looks slow like that. Man that combat would be so bad for PVP, like even worse than EQ2 or some shit. Every time I see a video, they are standing still in one place and it just looks really slow and animates badly. On top of that you have like the real poor character models and clothes look like a texture painted on their body. Their frigging emo plastic hair is enough to put me off but their bodies look outta proportion. Why is it no matter how much they try to change the character model looks, they all look related but one is bald or one is fat and one has emo plastic hair? Everything about it looks so bad, besides the environments, I bet they'll screw them up with instances and zoning though lol.

Just can't get excited for it. It is really annoying like a Halo game that everyone hypes, I play it and just think "what is so good about this?". Especially seeing as the MMO genre hasn't had anything good since 2004.

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  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Where is the complaints that their single-player games play too much like stale MMO mechanics?

    Mass Effect and Jade Dynasty are the best things they ever released, but they continue down the route of "easy to make, and make dozens of it".

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  • StellosStellos Member UncommonPosts: 1,491

    I understand what you are saying about the art style.  A lot of people are not fans, but it will help it run better on the average system.  As far as the combat, I don't have any complaints.  I expect amazing combat on console games, but with an MMO I don't really care what it looks like.  Hell my favorite MMO of all time was Ultima Online and the combat in that game looked boring and dry.  There are 100 other factors that I look for first in an MMO before the way the combat looks (assuming that the combat is reasonable).

  • SwaneaSwanea Member UncommonPosts: 2,401

    Cool!

    The few actually pvp 5 seconds of combat we have seen, people were running around the whole time.

    Or do you prefer to jump around as you kill the mob, going LOLBACKSTABLOL?

    Anyways, there were two videos that seemed to show direct pvp combat, and the groups were not just standing there going "lightning fingers(bolt)".

    It almost seems from the videos they did, they had people not moving for certain reasons.  But I know that won't satisfy you or many others.  I just say wait till beta starts, and normal players like us try it.  I understand some people don't enjoy certain games combat, just like some won't enjoy this.  I just think that some people think you target someone, run up to them, and stand there hitting 3 until you win. Granted, MOST games do this......but yeah..

  • IsaneIsane Member UncommonPosts: 2,630

    Originally posted by Miffy

    Seeing newer and newer gameplay footage, this game just looks worse and worse lol. It all looks really slow and out of place, like KOTOR had a really bad combat system, but it looks slow like that. Man that combat would be so bad for PVP, like even worse than EQ2 or some shit. Every time I see a video, they are standing still in one place and it just looks really slow and animates badly. On top of that you have like the real poor character models and clothes look like a texture painted on their body. Their frigging emo plastic hair is enough to put me off but their bodies look outta proportion. Why is it no matter how much they try to change the character model looks, they all look related but one is bald or one is fat and one has emo plastic hair? Everything about it looks so bad, besides the environments, I bet they'll screw them up with instances and zoning though lol.

    Just can't get excited for it. It is really annoying like a Halo game that everyone hypes, I play it and just think "what is so good about this?". Especially seeing as the MMO genre hasn't had anything good since 2004.

    You don't have to get excited Bye Bye..... The game looks excelent the global cooldowns will force more tactics into combat and this game is not an FPS. So all in all the game is looking great can't wait.

    Shame you won't be around or is it!!!

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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642

    they should use the combat style of jedi knight 2 - oh ftw

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196

    Have to agree with the OP. There is nonthing about this game that looks good at all. It is totally being sold on the names of Bioware and Star Wars.

  • demonic87demonic87 Member UncommonPosts: 438

    Originally posted by Mannish

    Have to agree with the OP. There is nonthing about this game that looks good at all. It is totally being sold on the names of Bioware and Star Wars.

    I agree with this to.

  • SolestranSolestran Member Posts: 342

    I am so very happy they aren't going with FPS style combat.  I'm glad this is going to be a RPG that stresses character development and skill, not twichiness and ping rates.

    To be honest, it seems to me that the majority of people who post or lurk on this site, generally don't like casual oriented games, so it baffles me why you guys follow this one, let alone constantly find reasons to bash it.  We get it already, you're badass hardcores who want twich combat, free for all PvP with full loot and tools to make ganking even easier with all of the trappings of the dreaded sandbox.  Fine, please lurk the games that fit or at least come close to that description and stop irritating people who aren't interested in that crap and who certainly don't want hear about it in their casual game topics.

  • Moon-DaddyMoon-Daddy Member UncommonPosts: 101

    My excitement  has also died, or maybe i'm just not a big enough star wars fan, it seems like we have been beating the same horse for years now. 

     

     


    Originally posted by Solestran

    I am so very happy they aren't going with FPS style combat.  I'm glad this is going to be a RPG that stresses character development and skill, not twichiness and ping rates.


     

    I don't see any indication of skill in this yet? i mean the only combat i see is people standing infront of each other presumably mashing buttons, Unless you relate skill to timing of button pressing or having stronger gear to beat your opponent.

    I may be wrong however, which i'm sure people will point out.

    Making so much noise you dont know when to listen.

  • VoltlivesVoltlives Member Posts: 280

    I've said it before and I'll say it again.  This game at best is looking average.  There are some changes to the grand scheme of things for the roles of players.  That is a nice change, but the character graphics still look way too old school GI Joe.  And honestly, don't give me that graphics means you need to spend 3k on a machine stuff.  Aion has beautiful graphics and it doesn't take a top of line machine.  An average machine from WoW can play it.  This is the style they went with, the style that is getting people to watch the make shift story line from Cartoon Network.  That is why we are seeing a kid version and a more adult version of the same IP coming out with that same style of art.  If it brings them money I wish them well, and many years of subscriptions.  It's just myself, I won't be donating to the pool.  It's sad really, I grew up on the original movies so I love the story.  Just hate what it has become.

     

    END OF LINE_

    ~V

  • Moon-DaddyMoon-Daddy Member UncommonPosts: 101

    ^ /thread

    Making so much noise you dont know when to listen.

  • SolestranSolestran Member Posts: 342

    Originally posted by Moon-Daddy

    My excitement  has also died, or maybe i'm just not a big enough star wars fan, it seems like we have been beating the same horse for years now. 

     

     


    Originally posted by Solestran

    I am so very happy they aren't going with FPS style combat.  I'm glad this is going to be a RPG that stresses character development and skill, not twichiness and ping rates.


     

    I don't see any indication of skill in this yet? i mean the only combat i see is people standing infront of each other presumably mashing buttons, Unless you relate skill to timing of button pressing or having stronger gear to beat your opponent.

    I may be wrong however, which i'm sure people will point out.

     .....hence the phrase, character skill, not player skill.  You know, like in D&D, where stats affect the roll of the dice and the final outcome, not how much you faceroll the keyboard.

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by Swanea

    Cool!

    The few actually pvp 5 seconds of combat we have seen, people were running around the whole time.

    Or do you prefer to jump around as you kill the mob, going LOLBACKSTABLOL?

    Anyways, there were two videos that seemed to show direct pvp combat, and the groups were not just standing there going "lightning fingers(bolt)".

    It almost seems from the videos they did, they had people not moving for certain reasons.  But I know that won't satisfy you or many others.  I just say wait till beta starts, and normal players like us try it.  I understand some people don't enjoy certain games combat, just like some won't enjoy this.  I just think that some people think you target someone, run up to them, and stand there hitting 3 until you win. Granted, MOST games do this......but yeah..

    Why have they shown so much pve content but very little of the pvp content ?

    Is it not ready.  Is it lacking in some way that they are not ready to show it off.  They hardly talk about this aspect of the game.

    They need to show more of the pvp system to calm the masses of there fears IMO.

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  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    It's kinda funny... every time I see some whiner complaining about this game, it just makes me feel better about it.  Why?  Because it just highlights the kind of person I will not have to deal with in-game.

    Whine and cry all you want, but know this:  We're going to have a blast without you.  Go waste your time elsewhere.

  • ChuckanarChuckanar Member UncommonPosts: 210

    Originally posted by madeux

    It's kinda funny... every time I see some whiner complaining about this game, it just makes me feel better about it.  Why?  Because it just highlights the kind of person I will not have to deal with in-game.

    Whine and cry all you want, but know this:  We're going to have a blast without you.  Go waste your time elsewhere.

    I have to agree with you there.

  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Originally posted by stayontarget

    Originally posted by Swanea

    Cool!

    The few actually pvp 5 seconds of combat we have seen, people were running around the whole time.

    Or do you prefer to jump around as you kill the mob, going LOLBACKSTABLOL?

    Anyways, there were two videos that seemed to show direct pvp combat, and the groups were not just standing there going "lightning fingers(bolt)".

    It almost seems from the videos they did, they had people not moving for certain reasons.  But I know that won't satisfy you or many others.  I just say wait till beta starts, and normal players like us try it.  I understand some people don't enjoy certain games combat, just like some won't enjoy this.  I just think that some people think you target someone, run up to them, and stand there hitting 3 until you win. Granted, MOST games do this......but yeah..

    Why have they shown so much pve content but very little of the pvp content ?

    Is it not ready.  Is it lacking in some way that they are not ready to show it off.  They hardly talk about this aspect of the game.

    They need to show more of the pvp system to calm the masses of there fears IMO.

    Well, you see, when a game is INCOMPLETE and NOT RELEASED, that means that NOT EVERYTHING IS COMPLETE.  Get it?

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by Chuckanar

    Originally posted by madeux

    It's kinda funny... every time I see some whiner complaining about this game, it just makes me feel better about it.  Why?  Because it just highlights the kind of person I will not have to deal with in-game.

    Whine and cry all you want, but know this:  We're going to have a blast without you.  Go waste your time elsewhere.

    I have to agree with you there.

    Watch what you say, because some posters are vindictive enough to catalog you saying this now, only to bring it up later when you state "the game wasn't what I was expecting". Playing the narcissist is the smart move these days, saves you a lot of disappointment and shame for going back on your words.

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  • edgecrusher213edgecrusher213 Member UncommonPosts: 17

    mumbles about NDA...

  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519

    Originally posted by madeux

    It's kinda funny... every time I see some whiner complaining about this game, it just makes me feel better about it.  Why?  Because it just highlights the kind of person I will not have to deal with in-game.

    Whine and cry all you want, but know this:  We're going to have a blast without you.  Go waste your time elsewhere.

    Are you implying that Tor will not have any of those peeps when the game launches ^^^

    ah I don't think that's gonna happen.  Not for any game bro.

     

    but nice story.

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  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Originally posted by GTwander

    Originally posted by Chuckanar


    Originally posted by madeux

    It's kinda funny... every time I see some whiner complaining about this game, it just makes me feel better about it.  Why?  Because it just highlights the kind of person I will not have to deal with in-game.

    Whine and cry all you want, but know this:  We're going to have a blast without you.  Go waste your time elsewhere.

    I have to agree with you there.

    Watch what you say, because some posters are vindictive enough to catalog you saying this now, only to bring it up later when you state "the game wasn't what I was expecting". Playing the narcissist is the smart move these days, saves you a lot of disappointment and shame for going back on your words.

    Do you know what a narcissist is?

  • dreamscaperdreamscaper Member UncommonPosts: 1,592

    Originally posted by Mannish

    Have to agree with the OP. There is nonthing about this game that looks good at all. It is totally being sold on the names of Bioware and Star Wars.

    <3

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    A person full of self-interest who "knows better" than to expect something good out of anything someone else has to preach.

    It's the way to be, because pure pessimism is depressing over time.

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  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Originally posted by dreamscaper

    Originally posted by Mannish

    Have to agree with the OP. There is nonthing about this game that looks good at all. It is totally being sold on the names of Bioware and Star Wars.

    Star Wars= Awesome IP with TONS of potential.

    Bioware=Badass dev that has NEVER put out a bad game.  Ever.

    Sounds like a pretty safe bet.

  • madeuxmadeux Member Posts: 1,786

    Originally posted by GTwander

    A person full of self-interest who "knows better" than to expect something good out of anything someone else has to preach.

    It's the way to be, because pure pessimism is depressing over time.

    Narcissism has nothing to do with not expecting something good... not at all.  Grab a dicitonary (or my personal psychiatric profile) and then try again.

  • GTwanderGTwander Member UncommonPosts: 6,035

    Originally posted by madeux

    Originally posted by dreamscaper


    Originally posted by Mannish

    Have to agree with the OP. There is nonthing about this game that looks good at all. It is totally being sold on the names of Bioware and Star Wars.

    Star Wars= Awesome IP with TONS of potential.

    Bioware=Badass dev that has NEVER put out a bad game.  Ever.

    Sounds like a pretty safe bet.

    Star Wars is the shit, and Bioware are masters of storycraft in gaming, but they also tend to recycle their tech from game to game, and it's a major reason why I couldn't get through Dragon Age. I still say ME and JE are their best outings, ever.

    Hell, even the Witcher uses the same engine KotOR did, and yet CDprojeckt were wise enough to tweak combat a little in order to differentiate it from the rest. It worked imo.

     

    ~and my point on narcissism stands,  it's about not listening to other's for whatever reason, and in this case, the blind praise of these two giants at hand and whether they are gauranteed a worthwhile product.. I'm well aware of the mythos behind Narcissus, and he would be stating the same things and arguing with you that "you don't know him".

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