These kind of events put a bad taste in new player's mouths. It's as if you don't want this game to get bigger? Meh.
My thoughts exactly . I like the concept of EVE but things like this make me think the people that have populated the game for several years proberbly hold all the cards now and theres little room for new players .Isolated gankings fine but a whole organised fleet of gankers just puts me off even trying it . I'll leave it to the elitists .
It is thoughts like this that show both of your obvious lack of knowledge and experience of the reality in the game.
A squad of T1 frigate rifters can take down 5 year vets in certain T2 ships (Tracking Disruptors anyone?).
Time in-game has little to do with anything. It is all about knowledge, skill, strategy, and tactics.
With over 5k systems in the game, do you really think every miner with a T2 Hulk is at risk?
These kind of events put a bad taste in new player's mouths. It's as if you don't want this game to get bigger? Meh.
My thoughts exactly . I like the concept of EVE but things like this make me think the people that have populated the game for several years proberbly hold all the cards now and theres little room for new players .Isolated gankings fine but a whole organised fleet of gankers just puts me off even trying it . I'll leave it to the elitists .
It is thoughts like this that show both of your obvious lack of knowledge and experience of the reality in the game.
A squad of T1 frigate rifters can take down 5 year vets in certain T2 ships (Tracking Disruptors anyone?).
Time in-game has little to do with anything. It is all about knowledge, skill, strategy, and tactics.
With over 5k systems in the game, do you really think every miner with a T2 Hulk is at risk?
These kind of events put a bad taste in new player's mouths. It's as if you don't want this game to get bigger? Meh.
My thoughts exactly . I like the concept of EVE but things like this make me think the people that have populated the game for several years proberbly hold all the cards now and theres little room for new players .Isolated gankings fine but a whole organised fleet of gankers just puts me off even trying it . I'll leave it to the elitists .
I played EvE for about 3 months, even started a second account. Then I took a look at what I was doing saw that it would take literally RL months to get anywhere. Basically doing the same click target, circle at ---distance, loot then repeat. Its a pretty game, and they have added depth and bredth to it. But between the constant whining from the elitists, pvpers, newbies. And looking over my shoulder everywhere I went and trying to find a semi sane mission running corp drove me to quit.
Events like this arent my cup of tea in the first place. But reading through their forums pretty much succiently reminds me why I quit.
These kind of events put a bad taste in new player's mouths. It's as if you don't want this game to get bigger? Meh.
My thoughts exactly . I like the concept of EVE but things like this make me think the people that have populated the game for several years proberbly hold all the cards now and theres little room for new players .Isolated gankings fine but a whole organised fleet of gankers just puts me off even trying it . I'll leave it to the elitists .
It is thoughts like this that show both of your obvious lack of knowledge and experience of the reality in the game.
A squad of T1 frigate rifters can take down 5 year vets in certain T2 ships (Tracking Disruptors anyone?).
Time in-game has little to do with anything. It is all about knowledge, skill, strategy, and tactics.
With over 5k systems in the game, do you really think every miner with a T2 Hulk is at risk?
got news for ya
being a 2003 eve vet myself
the odds are heavily in favored of the gankers.
there is no in game mechanic to thwart the pirates in this game.
all the incentive is to gank and make money, almost no incentive to gank the gankers to protect other players.
Then I took a look at what I was doing saw that it would take literally RL months to get anywhere. Basically doing the same click target, circle at ---distance, loot then repeat.
Grats you just described every single mmo on the market.
These kind of events put a bad taste in new player's mouths. It's as if you don't want this game to get bigger? Meh.
My thoughts exactly . I like the concept of EVE but things like this make me think the people that have populated the game for several years proberbly hold all the cards now and theres little room for new players .Isolated gankings fine but a whole organised fleet of gankers just puts me off even trying it . I'll leave it to the elitists .
I played EvE for about 3 months, even started a second account. Then I took a look at what I was doing saw that it would take literally RL months to get anywhere. Basically doing the same click target, circle at ---distance, loot then repeat. Its a pretty game, and they have added depth and bredth to it. But between the constant whining from the elitists, pvpers, newbies. And looking over my shoulder everywhere I went and trying to find a semi sane mission running corp drove me to quit.
Events like this arent my cup of tea in the first place. But reading through their forums pretty much succiently reminds me why I quit.
most of the ganking is done in high sec.. using destroyers.. time for me to dust off the dominix and hang around some miners.. hehe.. repping and killing.. you know it makes sense.. and a couple of salvagers to loot their wrecks with.. have to pay the bills after all. time to slap some puppy's
really shows you what type of game this is in heavily favoring the evil doer and not the do gooder.
no balence between badgood
a real shame
Anti-pirate corps anyone...sheesh it's like only people that played trial say anything bad about the game.
you made my point for me
anti pirate corps (Everyone) get(s) penalized in high sec and low sec for pod killing
people with negative sec ratings get to have clones in high sec
the bounty system is completely broken
the game cateres to the ganker, it just does
its not balenced... the gank to anti gank ratio is at least 8:1
Fixed.
You aren't supposed to pod in high sec (which is where most of the exhumer miners will be) unless you are at war. Any smart organized corp will have escorted mining ops, and any smart, knowledgable exhumer miner will not be mining in a busy location.
CCP knows they need a revamp of the bounty system. What MMOG doesn't have areas that need fixing? I played for about two years and never had a problem in high sec.
These kind of events put a bad taste in new player's mouths. It's as if you don't want this game to get bigger? Meh.
My thoughts exactly . I like the concept of EVE but things like this make me think the people that have populated the game for several years proberbly hold all the cards now and theres little room for new players .Isolated gankings fine but a whole organised fleet of gankers just puts me off even trying it . I'll leave it to the elitists .
It is thoughts like this that show both of your obvious lack of knowledge and experience of the reality in the game.
A squad of T1 frigate rifters can take down 5 year vets in certain T2 ships (Tracking Disruptors anyone?).
Time in-game has little to do with anything. It is all about knowledge, skill, strategy, and tactics.
With over 5k systems in the game, do you really think every miner with a T2 Hulk is at risk?
Of course I have a lack of knowlage about EVE as does every single person that considers playing it . We don't know how far reaching events like the Hulkageddon will be because we have no experiance of the game . But we hear of huge organised ganking fleets so how do we know if our t2 hulk is at threat or not . Some of those players doing the ganking may find it funny to kill us noobs constantly or they may not . What it is is bad press for EVE .People tend to air on the side of caution and if it sounds like its going to be bad during the summer months they simply postpone playing or not play at all.
These kind of events put a bad taste in new player's mouths. It's as if you don't want this game to get bigger? Meh.
My thoughts exactly . I like the concept of EVE but things like this make me think the people that have populated the game for several years proberbly hold all the cards now and theres little room for new players .Isolated gankings fine but a whole organised fleet of gankers just puts me off even trying it . I'll leave it to the elitists .
It is thoughts like this that show both of your obvious lack of knowledge and experience of the reality in the game.
A squad of T1 frigate rifters can take down 5 year vets in certain T2 ships (Tracking Disruptors anyone?).
Time in-game has little to do with anything. It is all about knowledge, skill, strategy, and tactics.
With over 5k systems in the game, do you really think every miner with a T2 Hulk is at risk?
Of course I have a lack of knowlage about EVE as does every single person that considers playing it . We don't know how far reaching events like the Hulkageddon will be because we have no experiance of the game . But we hear of huge organised ganking fleets so how do we know if our t2 hulk is at threat or not . Some of those players doing the ganking may find it funny to kill us noobs constantly or they may not . What it is is bad press for EVE .People tend to air on the side of caution and if it sounds like its going to be bad during the summer months they simply postpone playing or not play at all.
well.. yes.. the Hulkageddon freaks do tend to give the game a bit of a bad name.. im not an industrialist myself.. pvp for fun and mission for cash.. but.. those that do i suppose will be more than a bit 'miffed' at their antics.. and of course.. the gankers give the game a bad impression.. when really their just a minor annoyance - corp miners are too well protected to be affected by the hulkageddon guys so its just the high sec 'loners' etc.. who are affected...
Ugh. What a miserable game EVE is. I tried it, it wasn't fun. End of story. It completely lacks content, AND it encourages ganking. Any game that actively encourages ganking is clearly catered to the lowest common denominator of gamers: the social misfits and aggressive basement dwellers. No thanks, EVE.
Too many kids kick your sand castle down in the sandbox? We all learned to create our own content when we were kids.
It is a shame on how many people can't use their own imagination any longer to entertain themselves with the tools they are given.
I'd have thought that the whole concept of Hulkageddon more an EvE themepark idea from the boys at CCP than sandbox since it isn't player generated content. Anyway, whatever reads like a space take on professional wrestling, and I guess that might make interesting and fun PvP too.
Uh, Hulkageddon is wholly player run. CCP has nothing to do with it.
really shows you what type of game this is in heavily favoring the evil doer and not the do gooder.
no balence between badgood
a real shame
Anti-pirate corps anyone...sheesh it's like only people that played trial say anything bad about the game.
you made my point for me
anti pirate corps (Everyone) get(s) penalized in high sec and low sec for pod killing
people with negative sec ratings get to have clones in high sec
the bounty system is completely broken
the game cateres to the ganker, it just does
its not balenced... the gank to anti gank ratio is at least 8:1
Fixed.
You aren't supposed to pod in high sec (which is where most of the exhumer miners will be) unless you are at war. Any smart organized corp will have escorted mining ops, and any smart, knowledgable exhumer miner will not be mining in a busy location.
CCP knows they need a revamp of the bounty system. What MMOG doesn't have areas that need fixing? I played for about two years and never had a problem in high sec.
What an entirely clueless post. To give you an example, we had two escorts along with a group of young miners in a .5 this weekend the gankers came in a got 3 of them with no problem despite the escorts efforts. They bring so much firepower the miners go down in flames in a few seconds.
You have to remember any one flying any mining ship even retrievers or procurers are prey and those ships blow up much faster than a hulk.
There are so few anti groups mainly because the rules of the game are completely against them. Low sec is loaded with cowardly players who strictly pick on those that can't fight back, any fair fight and the run like chickens.
The group sponsering the event is a well known bunch of cowards. Mostly those players who can't hack the pvp in 0.0 running to gank corps because it is so easy.
CCP wants the game to remain dangerous to all, and most of us have no problem with that, but unfortunately the rules at the moment cater to cowardly play.
These kind of events put a bad taste in new player's mouths. It's as if you don't want this game to get bigger? Meh.
What do you have against the idea of new players being able to affect the gameplay of older players? I dont understand? Surely this should encourage new players to join, because they're demonstrably not stuck in the "low level ghetto".
To give you an example, we had two escorts along with a group of young miners in a .5 this weekend...
You have to remember any one flying any mining ship even retrievers or procurers are prey and those ships blow up much faster than a hulk.
If you knew that, why did you bring 'young miners' out to a mining op during Hulkaggedon and not guard them? It's almost as if you were looking to sacrifice them to prove some point about Hulkaggedon.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
To give you an example, we had two escorts along with a group of young miners in a .5 this weekend...
You have to remember any one flying any mining ship even retrievers or procurers are prey and those ships blow up much faster than a hulk.
If you knew that, why did you bring 'young miners' out to a mining op during Hulkaggedon and not guard them? It's almost as if you were looking to sacrifice them to prove some point about Hulkaggedon.
The point I was making was we had escorts, but it was not enough, they got 3 of the ships so fast. We had two cruisers with shield reppers, but they can only help two barges, the rest are at their mercy. So your contention is we should cancel our scheduled mining op because some people want to be jerks in the game?
How would you feel if you had to cancel your scheduled fun in a game because the rules give the aggressors all the advantages? We put a fleet into the gankers home system and guess what they all fled to the station and hid like the cowards they are.
I like the risk that Eve presents, but you have to admit, existing rules favor the aggressor at the moment and this lets them dictate how others play.
If the rules for the contest limited the ganking to hulks, it would be another story, but they contest owners decided to be complete jerks and allow other mining vessels to be included. That is what irks me.
Illyssia you probably think the alliance wars that happen are also CCP sponsored events.
Never mentioned those, you did in this thread for one reason or another I just mentioned EvE artwork and logos, extensive consideration to the minutiae of corporate legalistic detail, in-game prizes for a theme-park-like event, and out-of-game merchandise shop.
When I started playing eve a number of years ago I had a blast and really enjoyed the game and I really appreciated the Empire aspect where I could go and chill out and read email and do other real life things while still advancing if a bit slowly.
Sadly, the developers and many of the players have taken an elitist attitude towards players that don't want to spend all of their time in low sec and are actively working to drive players out of high sec and play the game according to their set of rules. First this shows that the idea of sandbox in eve is pure myth unless by sandbox you mean you can play anyway you want as long as it is the way we want you to play and second driving players via negative methods simply doesn't work and creating more positive reasons for players to modify the way the play the game is obviously too much work for CCP to bother with.
With this latest round of Hulkageddon it simply makes me realize that my recent rejection of a CCP email asking me to return to the game was the right choice.
Don't take this negativity as me saying that the game is bad or that the players who are enjoying the game are wrong or silly to be enjoying it. It is quite simply that the game is evolving into something that is no longer enjoyable for me to play and while my departure means little to the eve universe it does make me sad that so many seem to derive pleasure in driving me and others away from the game.
Yes, I've had the same impression regarding CCP and the player community as well lately. This event and the community's growing contempt for care bears has made realize that people with play styles like mine are really not welcome in EVE. There are other games more suited to players like myself so I decided to cancel my account today, and focus on games where I feel welcome.
When I started playing eve a number of years ago I had a blast and really enjoyed the game and I really appreciated the Empire aspect where I could go and chill out and read email and do other real life things while still advancing if a bit slowly.
Sadly, the developers and many of the players have taken an elitist attitude towards players that don't want to spend all of their time in low sec and are actively working to drive players out of high sec and play the game according to their set of rules. First this shows that the idea of sandbox in eve is pure myth unless by sandbox you mean you can play anyway you want as long as it is the way we want you to play and second driving players via negative methods simply doesn't work and creating more positive reasons for players to modify the way the play the game is obviously too much work for CCP to bother with.
With this latest round of Hulkageddon it simply makes me realize that my recent rejection of a CCP email asking me to return to the game was the right choice.
Don't take this negativity as me saying that the game is bad or that the players who are enjoying the game are wrong or silly to be enjoying it. It is quite simply that the game is evolving into something that is no longer enjoyable for me to play and while my departure means little to the eve universe it does make me sad that so many seem to derive pleasure in driving me and others away from the game.
Yes, I've had the same impression regarding CCP and the player community as well lately. This event and the community's growing contempt for care bears has made realize that people with play styles like mine are really not welcome in EVE. There are other games more suited to players like myself so I decided to cancel my account today, and focus on games where I feel welcome.
Damn...read my previous post.
There are over 5k systems to choose from. If you aren't a miner and want to mission, there are plenty of places and corps to chose from and pve away to your heart's content. Even if you are a miner like I said previously, there are over 5k systems and the odds are if you know anything about where you are and are in a corp that is supportive, you aren't going to be hit.
If you do exploration, that makes it even harder to be hit when mining in a hidden belt (even mine inside a mission). Be smart. Use your directional scanner, stay aligned.
When I started playing eve a number of years ago I had a blast and really enjoyed the game and I really appreciated the Empire aspect where I could go and chill out and read email and do other real life things while still advancing if a bit slowly.
Sadly, the developers and many of the players have taken an elitist attitude towards players that don't want to spend all of their time in low sec and are actively working to drive players out of high sec and play the game according to their set of rules. First this shows that the idea of sandbox in eve is pure myth unless by sandbox you mean you can play anyway you want as long as it is the way we want you to play and second driving players via negative methods simply doesn't work and creating more positive reasons for players to modify the way the play the game is obviously too much work for CCP to bother with.
With this latest round of Hulkageddon it simply makes me realize that my recent rejection of a CCP email asking me to return to the game was the right choice.
Don't take this negativity as me saying that the game is bad or that the players who are enjoying the game are wrong or silly to be enjoying it. It is quite simply that the game is evolving into something that is no longer enjoyable for me to play and while my departure means little to the eve universe it does make me sad that so many seem to derive pleasure in driving me and others away from the game.
Yes, I've had the same impression regarding CCP and the player community as well lately. This event and the community's growing contempt for care bears has made realize that people with play styles like mine are really not welcome in EVE. There are other games more suited to players like myself so I decided to cancel my account today, and focus on games where I feel welcome.
Damn...read my previous post.
There are over 5k systems to choose from. If you aren't a miner and want to mission, there are plenty of places and corps to chose from and pve away to your heart's content. Even if you are a miner like I said previously, there are over 5k systems and the odds are if you know anything about where you are and are in a corp that is supportive, you aren't going to be hit.
If you do exploration, that makes it even harder to be hit when mining in a hidden belt (even mine inside a mission). Be smart. Use your directional scanner, stay aligned.
itpaladin, thank you for your response, the point I was making however is the changing environment of the game, as the post I was replying to had indicated. There is I think a significant part of the player community that believes players like myself are a drag on the game. For some reason, it must be the care bear stare, we cause the developers to "waste" precious resources on "worthless" features like Incarna rather than on features that are more important. EVE is all about PvP you know.
I think the intention is not to drive players like me out of high sec, into low sec as rwmiller suggest, but out of EVE PERIOD. You know no care bears no care bear content like Incarna, then the devs can get back to what is "important"
Yes, I could follow your suggestions, and remain but what's the point? I'm not wanted here plain and simple. Heck why not hang out a Quark's and try my luck on the Dabo wheels instead? EVE isn't the only game in town and there are other companies and other player communities where this attitude isn't prevalent, and so I go my own way. Pax Vobiscum!
When I started playing eve a number of years ago I had a blast and really enjoyed the game and I really appreciated the Empire aspect where I could go and chill out and read email and do other real life things while still advancing if a bit slowly.
Sadly, the developers and many of the players have taken an elitist attitude towards players that don't want to spend all of their time in low sec and are actively working to drive players out of high sec and play the game according to their set of rules. First this shows that the idea of sandbox in eve is pure myth unless by sandbox you mean you can play anyway you want as long as it is the way we want you to play and second driving players via negative methods simply doesn't work and creating more positive reasons for players to modify the way the play the game is obviously too much work for CCP to bother with.
With this latest round of Hulkageddon it simply makes me realize that my recent rejection of a CCP email asking me to return to the game was the right choice.
Don't take this negativity as me saying that the game is bad or that the players who are enjoying the game are wrong or silly to be enjoying it. It is quite simply that the game is evolving into something that is no longer enjoyable for me to play and while my departure means little to the eve universe it does make me sad that so many seem to derive pleasure in driving me and others away from the game.
Yes, I've had the same impression regarding CCP and the player community as well lately. This event and the community's growing contempt for care bears has made realize that people with play styles like mine are really not welcome in EVE. There are other games more suited to players like myself so I decided to cancel my account today, and focus on games where I feel welcome.
Damn...read my previous post.
There are over 5k systems to choose from. If you aren't a miner and want to mission, there are plenty of places and corps to chose from and pve away to your heart's content. Even if you are a miner like I said previously, there are over 5k systems and the odds are if you know anything about where you are and are in a corp that is supportive, you aren't going to be hit.
If you do exploration, that makes it even harder to be hit when mining in a hidden belt (even mine inside a mission). Be smart. Use your directional scanner, stay aligned.
itpaladin, thank you for your response, the point I was making however is the changing environment of the game, as the post I was replying to had indicated. There is I think a significant part of the player community that believes players like myself are a drag on the game. For some reason, it must be the care bear stare, we cause the developers to "waste" precious resources on "worthless" features like Incarna rather than on features that are more important. EVE is all about PvP you know.
I think the intention is not to drive players like me out of high sec, into low sec as rwmiller suggest, but out of EVE PERIOD. You know no care bears no care bear content like Incarna, then the devs can get back to what is "important"
Yes, I could follow your suggestions, and remain but what's the point? I'm not wanted here plain and simple. Heck why not hang out a Quark's and try my luck on the Dabo wheels instead? EVE isn't the only game in town and there are other companies and other player communities where this attitude isn't prevalent, and so I go my own way. Pax Vobiscum!
Well spending a year in Eve University showed me that you can have your cake and eat it too.
I left before they moved to Minmatar space so I don't know how it is there now, but being with them you see you can PVE and PVP when you want, with a large number of people to support you. Don't want to be in war decs? Just drop to NPC corp for the duration and hang around in the public chats.
I dunno. I just don't get the attitude people have thinking they aren't wanted.
I'm Helicity Boson in EVE, and I create and run hulkageddon, all by myself. CCP does not help me in any way or form, I just do this because I think it's damned funny, and because I really enjoy running an event that engages so many different people.
You need to take the tinfoil hat off, and realize that it's VERY EASY to run big player events in EVE, you just need to be smart and creative about it...
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It is thoughts like this that show both of your obvious lack of knowledge and experience of the reality in the game.
A squad of T1 frigate rifters can take down 5 year vets in certain T2 ships (Tracking Disruptors anyone?).
Time in-game has little to do with anything. It is all about knowledge, skill, strategy, and tactics.
With over 5k systems in the game, do you really think every miner with a T2 Hulk is at risk?
twitch.tv/itpaladin
@ITPalg
YouTube: ITPalGame
this is correct, people overworry
I played EvE for about 3 months, even started a second account. Then I took a look at what I was doing saw that it would take literally RL months to get anywhere. Basically doing the same click target, circle at ---distance, loot then repeat. Its a pretty game, and they have added depth and bredth to it. But between the constant whining from the elitists, pvpers, newbies. And looking over my shoulder everywhere I went and trying to find a semi sane mission running corp drove me to quit.
Events like this arent my cup of tea in the first place. But reading through their forums pretty much succiently reminds me why I quit.
really shows you what type of game this is in heavily favoring the evil doer and not the do gooder.
no balence between badgood
a real shame
got news for ya
being a 2003 eve vet myself
the odds are heavily in favored of the gankers.
there is no in game mechanic to thwart the pirates in this game.
all the incentive is to gank and make money, almost no incentive to gank the gankers to protect other players.
Grats you just described every single mmo on the market.
Eve University?
twitch.tv/itpaladin
@ITPalg
YouTube: ITPalGame
Anti-pirate corps anyone...sheesh it's like only people that played trial say anything bad about the game.
twitch.tv/itpaladin
@ITPalg
YouTube: ITPalGame
most of the ganking is done in high sec.. using destroyers.. time for me to dust off the dominix and hang around some miners.. hehe.. repping and killing.. you know it makes sense.. and a couple of salvagers to loot their wrecks with.. have to pay the bills after all. time to slap some puppy's
you made my point for me
anti pirate corps get penalized in high sec and low sec for pod killing
people with negative sec ratings get to have clones in high sec
the bounty system is completely broken
the game cateres to the ganker, it just does
its not balenced... the gank to anti gank ratio is at least 8:1
Fixed.
You aren't supposed to pod in high sec (which is where most of the exhumer miners will be) unless you are at war. Any smart organized corp will have escorted mining ops, and any smart, knowledgable exhumer miner will not be mining in a busy location.
CCP knows they need a revamp of the bounty system. What MMOG doesn't have areas that need fixing? I played for about two years and never had a problem in high sec.
twitch.tv/itpaladin
@ITPalg
YouTube: ITPalGame
Of course I have a lack of knowlage about EVE as does every single person that considers playing it . We don't know how far reaching events like the Hulkageddon will be because we have no experiance of the game . But we hear of huge organised ganking fleets so how do we know if our t2 hulk is at threat or not . Some of those players doing the ganking may find it funny to kill us noobs constantly or they may not . What it is is bad press for EVE .People tend to air on the side of caution and if it sounds like its going to be bad during the summer months they simply postpone playing or not play at all.
well.. yes.. the Hulkageddon freaks do tend to give the game a bit of a bad name.. im not an industrialist myself.. pvp for fun and mission for cash.. but.. those that do i suppose will be more than a bit 'miffed' at their antics.. and of course.. the gankers give the game a bad impression.. when really their just a minor annoyance - corp miners are too well protected to be affected by the hulkageddon guys so its just the high sec 'loners' etc.. who are affected...
Uh, Hulkageddon is wholly player run. CCP has nothing to do with it.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
What an entirely clueless post. To give you an example, we had two escorts along with a group of young miners in a .5 this weekend the gankers came in a got 3 of them with no problem despite the escorts efforts. They bring so much firepower the miners go down in flames in a few seconds.
You have to remember any one flying any mining ship even retrievers or procurers are prey and those ships blow up much faster than a hulk.
There are so few anti groups mainly because the rules of the game are completely against them. Low sec is loaded with cowardly players who strictly pick on those that can't fight back, any fair fight and the run like chickens.
The group sponsering the event is a well known bunch of cowards. Mostly those players who can't hack the pvp in 0.0 running to gank corps because it is so easy.
CCP wants the game to remain dangerous to all, and most of us have no problem with that, but unfortunately the rules at the moment cater to cowardly play.
What do you have against the idea of new players being able to affect the gameplay of older players? I dont understand? Surely this should encourage new players to join, because they're demonstrably not stuck in the "low level ghetto".
Give me liberty or give me lasers
If you knew that, why did you bring 'young miners' out to a mining op during Hulkaggedon and not guard them? It's almost as if you were looking to sacrifice them to prove some point about Hulkaggedon.
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
The point I was making was we had escorts, but it was not enough, they got 3 of the ships so fast. We had two cruisers with shield reppers, but they can only help two barges, the rest are at their mercy. So your contention is we should cancel our scheduled mining op because some people want to be jerks in the game?
How would you feel if you had to cancel your scheduled fun in a game because the rules give the aggressors all the advantages? We put a fleet into the gankers home system and guess what they all fled to the station and hid like the cowards they are.
I like the risk that Eve presents, but you have to admit, existing rules favor the aggressor at the moment and this lets them dictate how others play.
If the rules for the contest limited the ganking to hulks, it would be another story, but they contest owners decided to be complete jerks and allow other mining vessels to be included. That is what irks me.
Never mentioned those, you did in this thread for one reason or anotherI think we have a simple fix for this hmmm...................
Oh ya go play "Trickster online" or something if you don't like to PvP and as for "shards" well this ain't no Ultima Online.
LET THE GANKAGE RAIN FREELY MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF EVE!
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Yes, I've had the same impression regarding CCP and the player community as well lately. This event and the community's growing contempt for care bears has made realize that people with play styles like mine are really not welcome in EVE. There are other games more suited to players like myself so I decided to cancel my account today, and focus on games where I feel welcome.
Damn...read my previous post.
There are over 5k systems to choose from. If you aren't a miner and want to mission, there are plenty of places and corps to chose from and pve away to your heart's content. Even if you are a miner like I said previously, there are over 5k systems and the odds are if you know anything about where you are and are in a corp that is supportive, you aren't going to be hit.
If you do exploration, that makes it even harder to be hit when mining in a hidden belt (even mine inside a mission). Be smart. Use your directional scanner, stay aligned.
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itpaladin, thank you for your response, the point I was making however is the changing environment of the game, as the post I was replying to had indicated. There is I think a significant part of the player community that believes players like myself are a drag on the game. For some reason, it must be the care bear stare, we cause the developers to "waste" precious resources on "worthless" features like Incarna rather than on features that are more important. EVE is all about PvP you know.
I think the intention is not to drive players like me out of high sec, into low sec as rwmiller suggest, but out of EVE PERIOD. You know no care bears no care bear content like Incarna, then the devs can get back to what is "important"
Yes, I could follow your suggestions, and remain but what's the point? I'm not wanted here plain and simple. Heck why not hang out a Quark's and try my luck on the Dabo wheels instead? EVE isn't the only game in town and there are other companies and other player communities where this attitude isn't prevalent, and so I go my own way. Pax Vobiscum!
Well spending a year in Eve University showed me that you can have your cake and eat it too.
I left before they moved to Minmatar space so I don't know how it is there now, but being with them you see you can PVE and PVP when you want, with a large number of people to support you. Don't want to be in war decs? Just drop to NPC corp for the duration and hang around in the public chats.
I dunno. I just don't get the attitude people have thinking they aren't wanted.
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Hi there, you seem to be confused.
I'm Helicity Boson in EVE, and I create and run hulkageddon, all by myself. CCP does not help me in any way or form, I just do this because I think it's damned funny, and because I really enjoy running an event that engages so many different people.
You need to take the tinfoil hat off, and realize that it's VERY EASY to run big player events in EVE, you just need to be smart and creative about it...