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FF XIV and beyound... How will FFXIV compete with other MMO's to come
Lord.Bachus
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By now most people must have grown tired of WoW and the other games available on the market and are ready for a new advanture. The first major MMO to get released will be FF XIV. There are atleast 2 major competitiors comming up early 2011. GW2 and SW:TOR. Both games look promissing from certain peerspectives, currently i am planning on playing all 3.
Why?
Because all these games show some promissing features i really want to try.
FF XiV
-Totall freedom of class and character building, be what you want and how you want.
-Deep crafting system.
-Combat tactics shoudl make the difference between good and not so good players and not so much reaction speed.
GW2
-Mini games
-PvP setting
-Improved public quests
-No monthly charge
-Combat system, and skill choices.
SW: TOR
-Choices that matters, i got a chance to influence the outcome of a quest, no linearrity
-IP Setting, Star Wars is an Intrigueing world, lesss fantasy then all my previous MMO's should give different feeling
-Different combat system, where ranged combat becomes more important.
In the end i might even end up playing 2 games as GW2 has no monthly fee.... But thats not the point. All these 3 games will also have weaknesses. And these weaknesses will mainly depend on people's personal favourisme. So based mainly on my gut feeling, as we still know little about these games i came up with some of my fears.
i am afraid that in FFXIV i will miss some freedom of movement and some good PvP and maybe the questing will be to linear and old fashioned. I hope the game will feel not like a grind to much, but feel like an actual world world where my actions matter, but this is where the game might fall short.
For GW2 being a support class type of player my worst fears are that i will miss the holy trinnity. Also the game looks so good on paper this far that i might get dissapointed when playing it. If gear progression is anything like the orriginal game then it will be a dissapointment for me(tough it sounds more promissing right now)
I am affraid that SW:TOR will be to much of a themepark and that the combat system will not work as good as i hope it will. Next to that SW:TOR might not have space combat, which would make a difference for me. Next to that most of the WoW unwwanted crowds will be intrigued by the IP.
I am looking for games as diverse as possible with a multitude of things to do... adventuring, crafting, mini games, social activities, Events.. but also diversity in gameplay. This is where FFXIV might shine where i can play my one character in any way i want.
So i'll have 6 months to judge FFXIV, as will you. Can you think of any reasons why you might leave the game after 6 months to choose one of these or even go back to WoW or your current game. I have had to much bad experiences with games released over the last few years to become blind for weak spots in games.
What are your fears for FFXIV? What might dissapoint you in the end....
(and yes this will be highly suspective ... and not based on facts untill we play these games.)
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
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I just hope XIV doesn't feel like a grind. The only other MMO i'm playing right now is Global Agenda.. which is okay. So when XIV comes out it's going to be getting my full attention. Heh, this probably shows how bad of a player I was, but; during XI I got really bored one time while grinding away xp at a camp. I was a Monk @ the time, mid 40s. I was so bored at the time that I was basically watching youtube videos in another window. I'd look over, attack a mob (Because you know auto attack was automated) and then go back to watching my youtube videos. I'd glance over every now and then and do a weapon skills, but other than that I was playing youtube while xi was running in the back. Granted, I couldn't do this with other classes, and this isn't something that I did often. I just hope that XIV keeps up the pace a bit more and does a good job of keeping players immersed in the combat, and not make it feel like a total grind.
Problem is FF14 doesn't have many quests so you have to grind most of the time.
Arent guildleaves a huge part of the game? From what I understand (or dont) theyre quests.
Actually, FF14 doesn't have many quests to do alone so you gotta group most of the time, duo, 3 man, 5 man or with 15 people, you choose.
Guildleves seem to be the primary way to get quests. I highly doubly anyone will ever run out of quests to do.
It's possible, but not if you party.
Guildleves are a huge part of the game, but they do not reward xp. Only gil and items. Therefore, the grinding conclusion.
Steam: Neph
Problem with the guildvele are the cooldown from what I read
Seems kind of weird to me that they don't give xp.
How do you know that? From what I think I read it seemed like quests were scaled to the group all the way down to solo.
Yes, but the solo difficulty is pretty much for the really casual people with 1h playtime a day.
After trying the old FF, I can only say, the game is simply totally unfriendly to less than full time gamer. It takes hours to get anything done, and it feels more like a job than my job, I can go afk at work, grab coffee, chat on a phone, and even take breaks during important face to face client meetings. when I play FF, the linkshell or whatever it was called, yell at me like I committed a crime, when I have to answer a phone during a 2 hour excursion.
FF series is great as a solo RPG. I still have my PS2 and the pile of disks, even tho its collecting dust at my old home. But as an online game, FF is not enjoyable, I can never feel relaxing.
Maybe I dont understand you. You said "Actually, FF14 doesn't have many quests to do alone so you gotta group most of the time, duo, 3 man, 5 man or with 15 people, you choose." How do you reconcile the two statements?
It means that you get 8 guildleves in a 2 days period which you can do alone if you want, but after that you group up with others and help them do leves in a group setting, with 2 to 15 people. You get rewarded accordingly for doing so.
Why dont you just admit that when you said ""Actually, FF14 doesn't have many quests to do alone so you gotta group most of the time, duo, 3 man, 5 man or with 15 people, you choose." it wasnt really true? You can in fact do many quests alone since they scale down in difficulty.
No, my statement still stands lol.
Most leves you end up doing with a group, not alone, even though there is a solo difficulty. Only those with little playtime will get to do most of their leves alone.
I think experience and skills are what people will be thinking about along with the PvE story.But what you said was that "you gotta group most of the time". Thats just not true. Like any good mmo its likely going to be preferable to group. But there is a distinction between games that are solo friendly and those that are forced grouping. I think you would prefer if ff14 was forced grouping and keep trying to paint it that way. Face the facts. Its not forced grouping anymore. And the mouse will be functional.
Well, actually, if you want to do more than 8 guildleves and get a decent amount of money without crafting, yes it is lol.
Even if it just means 2 people, but that's a group already.
So, another group-centric MMO from SE where you're limited to one character who is glued to the world? Sounds like these folks aren't deviating much from their first MMO, except that this time, PC gamers will be doing the quality assurance testing for the consolers. When will developers learn that giving customers more choices is never a bad thing? From the sound of it, this is one pre-order that I'll be cancelling.
"Soloists and those who prefer small groups should never have to feel like they''re the ones getting the proverbial table scraps, as it were." - Scott Hartsman, Senior Producer, Everquest II
"People love groups. Its a fallacy that people want to play solo all the time." - Scott Hartsman, Executive Producer, Rift
Please, do.
After you've done your 8 guild leves and you helping other people out with theirs, do you still get a bonus or do you only get the bonuses for YOUR guild leves?
You get bonus for your leve, for helping others you get the basic reward.
And uhh I can't say anymore. I think it was a mistake to say even this much, attack of the trolls is inevitable at this point.
You will be able to move:
1. Forwards
2. Backwards
3. Left
4. Right
Pretty standard for a MMO.
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