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World of Warcraft: Enforcing the Harassment Policy

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  • MagicManICTMagicManICT Member UncommonPosts: 92

    I am a father. I have a 14 and 10 year old. I'd consider letting the 14 year old play. She's heard it already, if not seen it. Hell, I had heard it all by the time i was 12. The 10 year old... well, he'd probably have fun, but not be too successful at it without some major instruction. However, he hasn't heard it all yet, and I'd rather him not get the idea that this kind of stuff is the only thing that's funny. (He already half gets most of the jokes that get tossed around.)

  • yoyoyoblakayoyoyoblaka Member Posts: 199

    Man this game is getting lamer and lamer by the minute. IMO make the game 18+ 

  • MuktukMuktuk Member UncommonPosts: 84

    Big talk is always from little boys.  Personally, I find it annoying.

     

    I don't have much confidence in Bliz on this issue, but it would be nice if companies did more to prevent it.

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584

    lol only thing I find funny, the dude have 15 years and some ehre call him a boy :P,

     

    really when I started playing MMO I was 16 and I was paying the game(ragnarok on that time) using my own money XD (before I was playing for free because its was a prize from my isp sub, so not really free).

     

    and good luck for that dude, even IF you can lock your son/daughter in his room and let him out only for school, where you think he will learn all the curses? also if you lock your kid his whole life you can't expect him to survive outside, because NOT everyone on this world have good intentions, some will rob you for being stupid or just because you are slow, but hey its his son, its because of something like that we know the world will never get better, you people lose time with useless things not the real things you should care about.

     

    now with the new TOS, I just laught you can just ask then to define each of that line there just to defend yourself, plus we know after the fiasco of that REAL ID you can expect anything from then.

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  • madakmadak Member Posts: 19

    hey blizzard how bout ionstead of worrying about one parents   complaint and patrolling  a useless area   the ignore button works  wonders   not to mention kids see far worse on tv   , which we can turn the  channel  not to mention what you hear on  xbox live  you can cancel that as well.  As  a parent i dont let my kids play games with adult content  period .  lets fix the  gold spamming issue   lets fix the hacking issues  lets concentrate on things  that  are becoming a  problem more  and more .  oh and if you think that  chat is bad be on during an anal  everything  bash that goes on almost daily in   trade chaT  . IF THE TALK IS SO BAD THEN DONT LET YOUR KID PLAY THE GAME PERIOD. its not blizzards job to police the kids its your as a parent  stop pointing at others  and  parent  your children

  • SmokeysongSmokeysong Member UncommonPosts: 247

    I really hope this is more than rhetoric and damage control.

    I think it is; I've noticed a shortening of time before my complaints about other players behaviors have been acted on.

    If you don't think it makes a difference when you report someone, think again. I know of at least one person that got an unscheduled vacation from WoW due to my efforts - and that person has cleaned up her language quite a bit since coming back, too, which was my intent. I don't mean using "curse" words, I mean how she talks to people and using bigoted language.

    Using "gay" as a pejorative is being a bigot. Using the word"retard" to put people down is also bigoted language - that word is used as part of current medical terminology, and I guarantee you there are tens of thousands of people playing WoW that have been labeled at some time in their llives as retarded by the education system they were or are in, by the counselors or psychologists that examined them, or even by the medical doctors that treated them. There is no shame in having a mental difficiency, only in acting below the capacilty you have, and the people who use the kind of language I find offensive are doing just that.

    If I were a parent logging on to WoW and reading trade chat, and developed my opinion of the average player from reading the talk from that wide-open channel (for those who don't know, the trade channel is used as the general purpose chat channel in WoW), then I would be hard pressed to allow my young child to continue to associate with those kinds of people on a daily basis. The talk is bigoted aand ignorant (I don't mean ignorant as a a pejorative, as a put-down, I mean that many people make statements in the trade channel that are not based on facts but is conjecture from someone who specifically does not know the facts), and often it is trolling. The humor is mostly sub-juvenile. It is not "letting children be children", it is more like lowlife thugs running amok.

    Most of the talk is from a relatively small population of young guys pushing the social envelope to see what they can get away with. If they are allowed, they will keep pushing; they will stay bigoted, because the society they are in (WoW, in this case) passively accepts it. They will stay ignorant, because the WoW community allows them to. They wil remain verbal bullies, because no one calls them on it. They will remain intolerant ("That tank sucked!") because no one calls them on it says ("Hey, cut him some slack, he said it was his first time.").

    The worst part is that since it is public it spreads. Most people adopt the public behavior they see without thining about it. If the talk in trade chat is bigoted, rude, about trolling rather than helping people, about putting them down, judging them harshly, then that's what we'll tend to get in the rest of WoW. I'll have to say, it seems to me that we are getting more of that kind of behavior since the random group system was developed and I had a good way of seeing what was happening across WoW's general population. It could just be that I've been leveling up new toons rather than playing level-capped ones, and the kind of player I'm running in to is less mature, but the pugs I've been in the last few weeks have been much less pleasant. I used to be one of the guys that said "Pugs are good. Most of them are very nice, and the people are helpful." I'd still say that's true, but one in five of those people in a pug is likely to have a bad attitude and someone else will join in when he or she expresses it. Not fun.

    To any parent, I'd say, let them play; WoW is still a fun game and most of the people in it are not represented by what you see in the public chat channels (trade chat) - and, in the end, everyone has to learn how to deal with bad influences for themselves, don't they? Better to teach a person how to deal with the problems in life than try to insulate them from them. If you do that, perhaps they will be much less likely to turn in to mindless sheep to begin with, and follow whatever popular trend is going around in their crowd of friends.

    This isn't just a WoW problem; SOE and Funcom and any other publisher of online gaming should pay attention to what gets said in public in their games; EQ and AoC aren't pretty, either. Just because most of the players are there to play the game and so don't take the time out to complain doesn't mean everything is fine by them, and the ability to put someone on ignore that is irritating to you does not stop bad public behavior. Public channels are public; these things do influence the people that use them - it may be just a minor annoyance, like for me trying to find someone to craft something in the WoW trade channel and having to wade throught the gook. or it may be how some kid at the grocery store talks to your wife. Think about it.

     

     

     

     

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  • srloppsrlopp Member Posts: 9

    haha I use to play runescape when i was 12-13 before starting WoW and i found the same thing all the time... and WoW chat has been some of the best time ive had playing.... well other than norris being down about 2 billion times...

  • madnessman13madnessman13 Member UncommonPosts: 91

     to be honest i have not heard sexual emotes gay bashing and racial comments that bad before on wow and iv been playing for almost a year now there have been a little but not a bunch of people sitting around and talking about it so i guess i shouldnt post a opionion btw im on the sever borean tundra

    madnessman

  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228

    rate the game M for Mature and problem solved

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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,078

    Originally posted by cosy

    rate the game M for Mature and problem solved

     You are obviously confusing a mature rating with actual maturity,Age of Conan has a mature rating and the chat on the tyranny server was as, if not more immature and obscene.

  • WraithoneWraithone Member RarePosts: 3,806

    It was only a matter of time before some "Concerned Citizen" type got involved in this nonsense. Of course the /Ignore function isn't nearly enough... Blizzard(government) should DO SOMTHING about that!... For the sake of the CHIL-DE-REN! 

    Its hardly surprising that Blizzard is falling all over themselves in response. After all, we simply must keep all games "family friendly", or risk the wrath of Concerned Citizen groups, which tend to attract the attention of grandstanding politicians, who love to pander to such groups.

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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

    Originally posted by Asheram



    Originally posted by cosy

    rate the game M for Mature and problem solved

     You are obviously confusing a mature rating with actual maturity,Age of Conan has a mature rating and the chat on the tyranny server was as, if not more immature and obscene.


     

    You made me spit out my soda. LOL! Best line EVER!


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  • TekmisfitTekmisfit Member Posts: 9

    Hey I have a better suggestion if parents wouldn't let there kids play most of this chatter probably wouldn't happen.

  • HummakavuulaHummakavuula Member Posts: 5

    "Rated T for teen" is on every box. At age 15 if you have not ALREADY talked to your child about this type of behavior and whether it's right or wrong and how to react accordingly, then I think a call to child services is in order. Another example of the world having to bow to a select few who can't or don't know how to deal with the real world around them.

    Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that this type of behavior in a social community simply shows the immaturity level of the player involved, but as I saw written in another post, are you locking your child in a closet and shielding them from the outside world...or are you going to take this and use it as an opportunity to teach your child the realities of the real world and  how to cope with them?

    In case anyone is wondering, I am a parent...of 5. 2 of which play this game. And instead of creating problems for the other millions who play, we simply laugh at the obviously low intelligence of those who act out in these ways in a game that is overall a VERY enjoyable experience.

    People need to start getting a grip on reality and stop trying to create a world filled with rainbows and unicorns.....learn to deal with what is really happening and teach your children to do so as well. otherwise when they leave your home and head into the world on their own, they will be in for a BIG surprise and be unable to cope with situations involving..."racy" conversation or racial slurs. These things exist and no matter how bad or inappropriate they may be, children should be taught how to deal with them instead of being shielded from them.

    In the immortal words of Forrest Gump...

    .." That's all I have to say about that"...

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  • McGamerMcGamer Member UncommonPosts: 1,073

    Originally posted by snazz



    There are so many things that they could spend time on that would make the game better. This is not one of them.


     

    You couldn't be more wrong. The foundation for any mmo is the community and WoW has the worst. I'm glad Blizz is working on this, but it will take a long time of these "patrols" to have a descent impact as it needs to be.

    A lot of gamers need to start learning to stop hiding behind the anonymity of the internet and show some responsibility for their own actions/words. 

  • McGamerMcGamer Member UncommonPosts: 1,073

    Originally posted by Hummakavuula



    "Rated T for teen" is on every box. At age 15 if you have not ALREADY talked to your child about this type of behavior and whether it's right or wrong and how to react accordingly, then I think a call to child services is in order. Another example of the world having to bow to a select few who can't or don't know how to deal with the real world around them.

    Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that this type of behavior in a social community simply shows the immaturity level of the player involved, but as I saw written in another post, are you locking your child in a closet and shielding them from the outside world...or are you going to take this and use it as an opportunity to teach your child the realities of the real world and  how to cope with them?

    In case anyone is wondering, I am a parent...of 5. 2 of which play this game. And instead of creating problems for the other millions who play, we simply laugh at the obviously low intelligence of those who act out in these ways in a game that is overall a VERY enjoyable experience.

    People need to start getting a grip on reality and stop trying to create a world filled with rainbows and unicorns.....learn to deal with what is really happening and teach your children to do so as well. otherwise when they leave your home and head into the world on their own, they will be in for a BIG surprise and be unable to cope with situations involving..."racy" conversation or racial slurs. These things exist and no matter how bad or inappropriate they may be, children should be taught how to deal with them instead of being shielded from them.

    In the immortal words of Forrest Gump...

    .." That's all I have to say about that"...


     

    So let me get this right, you and some of your kids laugh at other gamers, some who are parents of gamers, who chose to take a moral stand against vulgar and profane language? Hmm... and you are quoting Forrest Gump in summation...?

  • MalviousMalvious Member UncommonPosts: 218

    Originally posted by Tekmisfit

    Hey I have a better suggestion if parents wouldn't let there kids play most of this chatter probably wouldn't happen.

    QFTW

    Fine, we'll compromise. I'll get my way & you'll find a way to be okay with that.

  • KyotaKyota Member Posts: 11

    As a Moon Guardian (though I'm currently playing on Tor) this has been going on for a very long time in MG.. Goldshire aka Pornshire is a well known hub on all US servers for its degenerate nature.. its also the best RP server out there...

    I'm quite old and have done alot of rp over the years .. while I don't do ERP on WoW I personally don't see a problem with it.. kids will be kids when schools out we get flooded with dipshits and morons... then it goes quiet again.

    As to why do it in say and emotes.. because the system is there.. why not use a perfectly functional emote system if the game has it.. and yes I do agree if they are going to have sex and all find somewhere else rather than the middle of StormWind or the Lions Pride Inn.

    I'm not sure how old the boy was  but let him live.. while you may not personally agree with the language you see in text form.. there are a whole lot of MUDs awhole lot worse. Least of all some of the Gorean RP I have done over the years.

    People need to expand.. such rubbish as in Goldshire maybe just what his son or any son or daughter need to be the next  #1 best selling author..

    While wow never exsisted when I was kid.. alot of the things I did help to make me the novellist I am today

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  • uohaloranuohaloran Member Posts: 811

    I'm afraid you can't cleanse the gene pool by slapping people on the wrist.

  • McGamerMcGamer Member UncommonPosts: 1,073

    Originally posted by Kyota

    As a Moon Guardian (though I'm currently playing on Tor) this has been going on for a very long time in MG.. Goldshire aka Pornshire is a well known hub on all US servers for its degenerate nature.. its also the best RP server out there...

    I'm quite old and have done alot of rp over the years .. while I don't do ERP on WoW I personally don't see a problem with it.. kids will be kids when schools out we get flooded with dipshits and morons... then it goes quiet again.

    As to why do it in say and emotes.. because the system is there.. why not use a perfectly functional emote system if the game has it.. and yes I do agree if they are going to have sex and all find somewhere else rather than the middle of StormWind or the Lions Pride Inn.

    I'm not sure how old the boy was  but let him live.. while you may not personally agree with the language you see in text form.. there are a whole lot of MUDs awhole lot worse. Least of all some of the Gorean RP I have done over the years.

    People need to expand.. such rubbish as in Goldshire maybe just what his son or any son or daughter need to be the next  #1 best selling author..

    While wow never exsisted when I was kid.. alot of the things I did help to make me the novellist I am today

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    So your basic retort is; I'm old and It's been going on for a long time so why bother...? Yeah, that's brilliant. 

  • McGamerMcGamer Member UncommonPosts: 1,073

    Originally posted by Tekmisfit

    Hey I have a better suggestion if parents wouldn't let there kids play most of this chatter probably wouldn't happen.

    A better suggestion or one that requires the least amount possible? That is about as useful as suggesting to someone to cut off their ears so they won't have to hear someone speaking to them. 

  • HummakavuulaHummakavuula Member Posts: 5

    Miscommunication maybe?

    The people we laugh at are the ones causing these issues. Parents should have concerns, but instead of insisting the world change for them..how about simply handling it without affecting everyone around you?

    And yes...we DO laugh at gamers....if that's what you want to call people who go into Inns and start these tasteless conversations knowing perfectly well that it is against the games policies and that their may be others around who don't appreciate it. 

    Please read a post carefully before jumping to wrong conclusions.

    The people at the INN are wrong.......the Parent is right...BUT...I believe is putting too much blame on Blizzard rather than simply handling thins at home.

    simply put..don't create a nuclear explosion from a firecracker.

    and I quote Forrest Gump because I..unlike others it would seem....have a sense of humor and try not to take things like video games as if they are going to create a giant void in my child's life that will send him spiraling into an abyss of horror and lifelong regret and self loathing.

    It's a game...there are ...."not to bright" people that may play it. Accept that and play it or don't play it with an educated decision. Don't go ballistic if you here some "naughty " words.   relax..life is too short to have a major reaction that affects millions over something that really should have no lasting effect on an educated child of 15.

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  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726

    "with adults playing talking about adult things"  

    Sorry what goes on in these places in Wow has nothing to do with adults, it is kids seeing how far they can stretch it.

    This was going on for some time, it was even there when I played.  It helped playing on a rp server though, you could actually report someone if they got too crazy.

    I just don't get why people can't keep this to private chat.  The local area does not want to listen to what an idiot you are.

  • TardcoreTardcore Member Posts: 2,325

    So Blizzards solution to this problem is to send in the "Blizzstapo"?

    (m)embers of our CS team will 'patrol' Goldshire on Moon Guard on a regular basis, and take appropriate action for individuals violating the Harassment Policy. Note that this pertains primarily to public messages (/say, /yell, General) and unsolicited whispers. We won't be showing up with that mythical crack of lightning-- we'll just be watching silently for any rule-breaking language and following up privately with the player[s] in question."

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  • VyavaVyava Member Posts: 893

    While I find the.. um, "RP style" odd to say the least it just brings up why MMOs are really adult environments which will never be completely appropriate for children. An adult offended by the conversation will just leave the area or server. The child most likely heard about the "RP" and sought it out.

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