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Why are players hyped about Rift and Tera?
VowOfSilence
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Rift: Tries to do something like GW2, but GW2 sounds more interesting.
Tera: Has twitch-based combat. And pretty graphics.
Am i missing anything here?
In that other thread, 40% voted they'll try Rift before GW2. Why?
And are so many ppl into twitch-based combat that much?
Hype train -> Reality
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People have different tastes and preferences.
Also in some cases of those polls (which are useless but anyway) people want to be anti establishment and will choose the lesser known (or lesser budgeted) of the products. Whether they actually believe that it will be a better game? Who knows.
For me:
I think Rift used to be called Heroes of Telara and, iirc, I read something that said the cities players were part of could get destroyed and that the players would have to work together to build the city back up so they could use it again. I'm not 100% on that, but I think that's right. If that's the case, that's a big reason for me to be interested.
Additionally, it seems the Rifts happen somewhat randomly, so it won't be like, Log on a 6:00 PM to do this Rift or that Rift.
As for Tera, the action combat looks cool. I've been playing CO, which is targeted, but has very active, fast combat. You have to move and react to changes a lot. I've also gone back to WoW, because a friend is back playing, and man that combat in WoW feels soooooooo slooooooow now. So I want to give Tera a try and see if it's got the fast paced action combat I like, or not.
Playing | GW2
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Watching | Crowfall
Retired | WAR, Cabal, MO, CO, SHK, WoW, FFXIV: ARR
I don't think they'll have a choice as Rift appears further along in development than GW2 at this point.
For the same reason all games are hyped.
Because there are still gullible....er, hopeful....people who still actually believe devs will have everything in their game they actually say they will.
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Trion is hardly less budgeted ( http://www.trionworlds.com/en/about/investors.php ), obviously lesser known as this is their first MMO. Devs working on the projects are all MMO vets with a lot of experience, same goes for TERA. Although I'm way more interested in Rift.
I'm excited about Rift because of what they are doing with classes, dynamic content, large open world with sandbox elements (not sure on the extent yet)... hopefully some quality end game raid content too, which is my main hope. I'm hoping Rift will blend what many games like EQ2 and Vanguard did that was good, bring them together and make an excellent next gen MMO.
Rift has a huge budget btw, but I think someone already took care of that. Lol anti-establishment. Do alittle reading before you say stupid stuff like that.
Rift has a lot of things going for it IMO and a lot of others thinks so too.
I could care less about Rift. Im not passing it off as a potentially good game but I just dont see it yet.
TERA on the other hand is looking to be awesome. I think of it as shaping up to be a mix between Aion and AoC with all of their strengths and none of their weaknesses. The kick ass art direction and smooth combat/animation you'd expect from a good asian game with the non-grindy story/quest oriented leveling of western games.
AoC: More involved combat we see in AoC but without the standing still spamming left/lower right/ upper attacks, and much more fast paced and action oriented. In TERA, if youre good enough, it wont matter how good the other guys gear is. He may be able to one shot you because of his gear/level, but that means nothing if he cant hit you. Thats one of the things im loving about it, there isnt going to be some rng determining whether or not I hit, dodge or block.
The graphics are probably better than AoC too. UT3 engine which hopefully will be less buggy and poppy than the one AoC used. UT3 is a much more efficient engine too so while I dont doubt TERA will demand a good computer it probably wont be as demanding as AoC or even FFXIV.
Aion: Just the art. I personally love the art of asian games. Best way to describe it is its more "dreamlike" color pallet with much more creativity and out of this world designs rather than just trying to replicate just another forest. The gear looks great. The effects, character animations ... ive always wished for an MMO tha tlooked like that but didnt have all the awful grinding and punishing gameplay of the usual Asian game (Aion). TERA seems to be it.
Other than that they really seem to be building on quality and listening to all their players rather than just the Koreans, lol. Theyre improving on the genre rather than boldly going out and implementing some b/s crazy change like GW2 "no trinity" (though I still think GW2 can be pretty good) thing or SWTOR "pet style combat for everyone." Ive yet to hear anything bad about that game other than shallow comments like "hurhur anime and boobs."
Successful marketing practices.
please tell me what makes you think TERA won't be a grindfest? It's another Korean company. Can you name one Korean made game that isn't a grindfest that was successful in the west?Check out the money being sucked up by 38 Studios. Thats a game Im really curious about.
Theyve said it multiple times. Could they be lying through their teeth? Sure. But right now it seems to be one of the main things they want to be rid of before they release it to western audiences. I also automatically passed it off as another grindfest MMO at first but the more I read about the game the more I loved it.
Here is a sample of quotes from dev interviews regarding the "grind"
http://www.tera-online.com/forums/showpost.php?p=192774&postcount=4
New company, new philosophies. Best part? Its not NCSoft.
Yeah, what arenasb said!!!
They both appear pretty polished and look to have some interesting mechanics and solid back story elements. Rifts looks to be the better of the two to me. I am watching and hopeful.
Tera is a Korean based game and I have been fooled in to trying the grindfest games before. It looks good but I will wait and see.
New, pretty looking things generally catch the attention of various people.
Heh, that's a bit unfair. Yeah, people just go for different things.
But what I don't understand is, why can't we just try each of them? They're not even out yet and a good portion of posts are trying to separate potential fans of multiple titles into categories.
Bleh.
But yeah, I can see where you're coming from. Personally I think Rift and Tera look pretty... Uninspired. A tad gimicky, I may be bold as to say.
Guild Wars looks pretty mint though.
But hey... Opinions are opinions.
Tera is the one I am looking foward to. Game just looks awesome.
Theyve said it multiple times. Could they be lying through their teeth? Sure. But right now it seems to be one of the main things they want to be rid of before they release it to western audiences. I also automatically passed it off as another grindfest MMO at first but the more I read about the game the more I loved it.
Here is a sample of quotes from dev interviews regarding the "grind"
http://www.tera-online.com/forums/showpost.php?p=192774&postcount=4
New company, new philosophies. Best part? Its not NCSoft.
New company?......if you go to blueholes website it says "Bluehole studio was founded March 2007 by entrepeneur Byung-Gyu and a handful of former core NCsoft employees".....also "Bluehole's talented development team is made up of numerous industry veterans, including the former producer, lead game designer, lead programmer, and art director of Lineage II"Not NCsoft?.....Lineage is the definition of grind btw.
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How many other games has Bluehole made? Did you just completely ignore everythin gbut the last sentence? Thats a handful of industry vets that may or may not have been solely responsible for other games shortcomings and the argument is Strawman at best.
Anyway EnMasse, another new company that isnt NCSoft, have been given the green light by Bluehole to modify and make TERA a game western audiences would like. They also have vets working on the game from Blizzard, Bioware and other reputable companies. They are building TERA from the ground up WITH the help of EnMasse instead of just releasing a new patch with a couple new quests and translations (a'la Aion and anything else NCSoft has ported over). EnMasse has been hosting focus group test for a while now and has made many changes and additions to the game from the feedback they have gotten from western players. There were many updates made between FGT1 to FGT2 and we are being told the next build is almost ready for FGT3 for even more feedback. Which was the last Korean company to do that?
If youre dead set on Korean stereotyping and automatically hating the game then thats your call. But I think you, and many other like you, will be pleasantly surprised when the game is released.
P.S: You do know its quite possible that TERA has been in developement since March 2007. That sounds like a new company to me. They havent made any good games yet, but they havent made any bad either. I never said they were great, im just pointing out they seem to have the right idea, finally.
How many other games has Bluehole made? Did you just completely ignore everythin gbut the last sentence? Thats a handful of industry vets that may or may not have been solely responsible for other games shortcomings and the argument is Strawman at best.
Anyway EnMasse, another new company that isnt NCSoft, have been given the green light by Bluehole to modify and make TERA a game western audiences would like. They also have vets working on the game from Blizzard, Bioware and other reputable companies. They are building TERA from the ground up WITH the help of EnMasse instead of just releasing a new patch with a couple new quests and translations (a'la Aion and anything else NCSoft has ported over). EnMasse has been hosting focus group test for a while now and has made many changes and additions to the game from the feedback they have gotten from western players. There were many updates made between FGT1 to FGT2 and we are being told the next build is almost ready for FGT3 for even more feedback. Which was the last Korean company to do that?
If youre dead set on Korean stereotyping and automatically hating the game then thats your call. But I think you, and many other like you, will be pleasantly surprised when the game is released.
There is no evidence to prove that it will not end up like every other Korean MMO. That is why I asked for you to name a successful non grindfest Korean made game that did well in the west.I just showed you the evidence. Its just word of mouth from the devs themselves but just because previous Korean MMOs have failed to deliver in the West doesnt mean this one will too.
I'm excited for RIFT. While it does have some qualities that other MMO's have, it also seems like it could be very interesting. I'm also excited for GW2 (a lot). I am not, however, excited about TERA so much. Truthfully I've not done tons of research into Tera, but it just seems like another Korean grinder (not say it is, people!) so I'm hesitantly watching that one.
How many other games has Bluehole made? Did you just completely ignore everythin gbut the last sentence? Thats a handful of industry vets that may or may not have been solely responsible for other games shortcomings and the argument is Strawman at best.
Anyway EnMasse, another new company that isnt NCSoft, have been given the green light by Bluehole to modify and make TERA a game western audiences would like. They also have vets working on the game from Blizzard, Bioware and other reputable companies. They are building TERA from the ground up WITH the help of EnMasse instead of just releasing a new patch with a couple new quests and translations (a'la Aion and anything else NCSoft has ported over). EnMasse has been hosting focus group test for a while now and has made many changes and additions to the game from the feedback they have gotten from western players. There were many updates made between FGT1 to FGT2 and we are being told the next build is almost ready for FGT3 for even more feedback. Which was the last Korean company to do that?
If youre dead set on Korean stereotyping and automatically hating the game then thats your call. But I think you, and many other like you, will be pleasantly surprised when the game is released.
There is no evidence to prove that it will not end up like every other Korean MMO. That is why I asked for you to name a successful non grindfest Korean made game that did well in the west.I just showed you the evidence. Its just word of mouth from the devs themselves but just because previous Korean MMOs have failed to deliver in the West doesnt mean this one will too.
Talk is cheap. That was not evidence it was talk. We will see when it comes out.It's funny how you claim someone else should do a little reading before you say stupid stuff right after calling TERA a korean grindfest, something which you couldn't possibly know for sure and the game gets optimized for a western audience.
Perhaps you should do a little reading yourself before saying stupid stuff.
Its hard not to be excited for the MMO you've been reading about the most, Rift is definitely taking a page out of GW1's playbook from what I've seen and there's no question about that. The other two MMOs (TERA & SWTOR) haven't pulled out anything majorly special except their key selling points; twitch based combat and the Star Wars license. Rift and GW2 deserve the hype they are getting but I haven't seen anything that blows my mind in Rift that isn't in GW2 or GW1.
This is not a game.
Why are you so hyped about GW2??
GW2 a pretty game in F2P wrapper. No trinity...pffft thats gonna work...
UCWUTIDIDTHAR???
Are you so narrow minded that you cant see people may like or want something different than what you want or like.
For me its a couple of things. Although, I could care less about Tera, even though I'll hesitantly try it, as it just reminds me of Aion way too much and I can't stand Aion.
Anyway, Rift just looks great. From the graphics to the mechanics of the classes to the fact that it is a completely original IP to the music that plays on the vids. I love the look and feel and want to get lost in that world.
GW2, while looking pretty nice as well, has GW1 as it's predecessor which FOR ME at least, is not a good thing. I did NOT like the look and feel of GW1 at all. While I'm glad GW2 is going to be very different from GW1, it's still the same lore/artists from the first one. So we'll see.
That being said, I'll still try them all, it's just that Rift looks VERY inviting compared to GW2 and Tera.