Still to those worrying from what I hear FFXIV's controls for keyboard and mouse are better than FFXI's, but still need lots of improvements. Beta phase 3 is also making some adjustments to mouse control and the UI so it should be even better, so Square Enix is actually making an effort this time around.
" The many people who seem to believe that if they don't like something, then it is broken " that you are referring to are the ones that payed for FF11, and tossed it in the garbage can soon after loading it. Final Fantasy 11 was a disaster for ALMOST EVERYONE with the controls, thats a fact, thousands of people feel they got riped off. Don't even bother asking me to prove the numbers, because I'm not. Both all of you and I know this.
It's very very easy to assume that FF XIV will be the same or at the very least something to note before purchase. They never made any real attempt to fix the controls in all the years FF11 was on the market, so yes people can assume. You do understand that assuming using history of a product can be real right ? After all, many here are expecting problems with the controls, because of SE's history.
Nothing like five fans sitting here putting out fires. You fans are not really the majority here, the same five fans are covering every topic like a dog covering his food bowl. We had seen it with the pre release of Vanguard, then the pre release of AoC.
Why am I here. Well I hate scams. Is FF14 a scam ? We don't know yet, I'm guessing not. Was FF11 a scam " yes " Millions of dollars were waisted to please a few.
Yes, but I would guess the majority of FF fans don't want the game to be like WoW. Why can't you understand that?
Because this game will be marketed heavy, as marketing could be for video games. Do you think only FF fans will see it in stores, millions will.........Why can't you understand that ?
A classic case of the developers wanting something that the fans do not. I understand that the company wants to make tons of money, but at the expense of their true fans who have been hanging on for years? Surely a larger market will look good to the business side of the company, but that market will bring in loads of people, like the OP, who will basically turn the game into WoW, like they have every other popular game that has come out since it.
Are you really surprised? Yes, they make games but first and foremost SE is a business and they are in this field to make money. This is not a small indie company trying to carve a niche market. We're talking about a multi-million dollar a year corporation with hundreds of employees, investors, board meatings and other fancy stuff.
They simply cannot afford to make a game just for their fans, especially since the fanbase will be divided between two MMOs.
Are you really surprised? Yes, they make games but first and foremost SE is a business and they are in this field to make money. This is not a small indie company trying to carve a niche market. We're talking about a multi-million dollar a year corporation with hundreds of employees, investors, board meatings and other fancy stuff.
They simply cannot afford to make a game just for their fans, especially since the fanbase will be divided between two MMOs.
Not nearly all FF fans play XI.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
I'm reading several threads about keyboard + mouse vs. controller.
It seems as the Final Fantasy fans are sticking up for the controller, and telling others they have to adapt to whatever this game needs as far as control.
I say no !
THEIR SHOULD BE NO REASON TO DO RESEARCH. This game will be launched to the un suspecting public. Many people will feel riped off if it runs with no less than perfect keyboard and mouse......If anything less, BestBuy and EB Games better have a very good return policy.
And yes this Forum needs this as a new topic, because it's the single most important aspect of Final Fantasy XIV.
For the game to be a hit it will have to offer you both choices yes.
But to be honest, this is just something you get used to anyways. I don't use a mouse to my PC, I use a trackball. People who are changing music at parties or hot seating something with me always get confused by that but it is a lot faster than any mouse and once you get used to it you wont turn back. It is the same thing of course with using a mouse instead of a game controller, it is slower.
Anything slowing me down when playing is bad. So at launch there should be support for both things, and hopefully for that new Sony game controller (the one who is a rip off from Wii you know). The more options the better, it is my choice how my hardware should be.
But I heard that they will patch it in soon anyways so just relax.
I love FF...I hate XI. The controls were shit. Nothing more annoying that trying to get into a game and figuring out how to move around is complete shit. Reason me and my friends quit playing our first week in the game. If XIV is anywhere near the same I will not try it at all.
Read this over at FFXIVcore.com about the Beta 3 mouse controls
"So i was watching my brother playing Beta and they indeed updated the controls to incorporate camera control with the mouse! All you have to do is right click-hold and move the camera to your enjoyment, just like every other MMO.
While standing still, you can look all around yourself but while running moving the camera controls where you will be running. There is no free camera movement while running but this update has made things SOOO much better for PC users!!! "
So now you can all shut up. I'm so tired of all the griping. It also goes to show you can NOT judge a game until it is released.
I can't help but laugh at all the people that thought the controls in FFXI were bad and didn't play because of them. Yeah sure they might have taken a little bit on time to get used to but they fit perfectly with the style and pace of the game.
But anyways, they made the controls better for all the slow learning kids that need keyboard + mouse.
what the hell people stop bring up wow! this is not about wow and this will enver be about wow. this is about useing the standard of game control on PC that we have grown accustomed to, and this conrol sceme predates WoW. there is a reason we have a standard, because its consitered the best. if these controls are so great then they would have been the standard
what the hell people stop bring up wow! this is not about wow and this will enver be about wow. this is about useing the standard of game control on PC that we have grown accustomed to, and this conrol sceme predates WoW. there is a reason we have a standard, because its consitered the best. if these controls are so great then they would have been the standard
With phase 3 of beta starting today the controls have imroved light years from alpha to here. Just keep working SE things are slowly, but surely coming together nicely.
what the hell people stop bring up wow! this is not about wow and this will enver be about wow. this is about useing the standard of game control on PC that we have grown accustomed to, and this conrol sceme predates WoW. there is a reason we have a standard, because its consitered the best. if these controls are so great then they would have been the standard
I'm not really sure why those against a keyboard need to resort to namecalling just because we have a different view
im not namecallign because of that im saying he cares too much about spelling. and i really dont care so much on these forums because FF dictionary does not work here.
I'm not really sure why those against a keyboard need to resort to namecalling just because we have a different view
Its because console gamers are already pissed that the game is delayed 6 moinths at least. They are mad that the game will be incredibly dumbed down to play on the PS3. They are mad because they cant use more buttons than a game controller.
It's not a matter of if there is a keyboard and mouse, it's a matter of how well it works. /close thread is just a drama q thing to put in a post by the way.
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
A quick question, from this beta phase to the previous I have noticed they did something with the mouse controls. As it is it is a lot easier to control the character but does anyone experience huge camera stuttering (frame skipping) while rotating the camera if you use the mouse instead of keys (or gamepad)?
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Still to those worrying from what I hear FFXIV's controls for keyboard and mouse are better than FFXI's, but still need lots of improvements. Beta phase 3 is also making some adjustments to mouse control and the UI so it should be even better, so Square Enix is actually making an effort this time around.
Are you really surprised? Yes, they make games but first and foremost SE is a business and they are in this field to make money. This is not a small indie company trying to carve a niche market. We're talking about a multi-million dollar a year corporation with hundreds of employees, investors, board meatings and other fancy stuff.
They simply cannot afford to make a game just for their fans, especially since the fanbase will be divided between two MMOs.
Not nearly all FF fans play XI.
For the game to be a hit it will have to offer you both choices yes.
But to be honest, this is just something you get used to anyways. I don't use a mouse to my PC, I use a trackball. People who are changing music at parties or hot seating something with me always get confused by that but it is a lot faster than any mouse and once you get used to it you wont turn back. It is the same thing of course with using a mouse instead of a game controller, it is slower.
Anything slowing me down when playing is bad. So at launch there should be support for both things, and hopefully for that new Sony game controller (the one who is a rip off from Wii you know). The more options the better, it is my choice how my hardware should be.
But I heard that they will patch it in soon anyways so just relax.
I love FF...I hate XI. The controls were shit. Nothing more annoying that trying to get into a game and figuring out how to move around is complete shit. Reason me and my friends quit playing our first week in the game. If XIV is anywhere near the same I will not try it at all.
Controls are fine.
People need to learn to adapt to different things instead of bitching like spoiled children.
no 310% flying chocobos that sucks!!!1!
Read this over at FFXIVcore.com about the Beta 3 mouse controls
"So i was watching my brother playing Beta and they indeed updated the controls to incorporate camera control with the mouse! All you have to do is right click-hold and move the camera to your enjoyment, just like every other MMO.
While standing still, you can look all around yourself but while running moving the camera controls where you will be running. There is no free camera movement while running but this update has made things SOOO much better for PC users!!! "
So now you can all shut up. I'm so tired of all the griping. It also goes to show you can NOT judge a game until it is released.
Now it just becomes "wah wah waah, no hardware mouse cursor waah" instead.
It was in XI, so it'll be in XIV.
I am a FF anime fan but I am not going to play FF mmo.
You sure do love commenting here though.
Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?
Final Fantasy 7
I really hope this game doesn't play like that (
I can't help but laugh at all the people that thought the controls in FFXI were bad and didn't play because of them. Yeah sure they might have taken a little bit on time to get used to but they fit perfectly with the style and pace of the game.
But anyways, they made the controls better for all the slow learning kids that need keyboard + mouse.
http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/10345-beta-3-update-details-controls-known-issues/
what the hell people stop bring up wow! this is not about wow and this will enver be about wow. this is about useing the standard of game control on PC that we have grown accustomed to, and this conrol sceme predates WoW. there is a reason we have a standard, because its consitered the best. if these controls are so great then they would have been the standard
Its spelled considered
With phase 3 of beta starting today the controls have imroved light years from alpha to here. Just keep working SE things are slowly, but surely coming together nicely.
thank you mr. cares too much
im not namecallign because of that im saying he cares too much about spelling. and i really dont care so much on these forums because FF dictionary does not work here.
Its because console gamers are already pissed that the game is delayed 6 moinths at least. They are mad that the game will be incredibly dumbed down to play on the PS3. They are mad because they cant use more buttons than a game controller.
http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/10345-beta-3-update-details-controls-known-issues/
Mouse
Left Click
Confirm
Select target
Right Click
Hold and drag to move camera
Mouse Wheel
Hold and drag to auto-run
Spin Mouse Wheel
Zoom in/out camera
/close thread
It's not a matter of if there is a keyboard and mouse, it's a matter of how well it works. /close thread is just a drama q thing to put in a post by the way.
parrotpholk-Because we all know the miracle patch fairy shows up the night before release and sprinkles magic dust on the server to make it allllll better.
If you don't like the controls don't play, simple as that. FFXI was heavily controller based and it's been doing just fine.
A quick question, from this beta phase to the previous I have noticed they did something with the mouse controls. As it is it is a lot easier to control the character but does anyone experience huge camera stuttering (frame skipping) while rotating the camera if you use the mouse instead of keys (or gamepad)?