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If anything, Bioware stole that from KoTOR. Either way, it's all buzzwords. Both games are most likely going to offer a few branching paths that can change the direction of the overall story and nothing more.
Hmmm, not sure how you affect your surroundings.
Also, they both stole the idea as neither of them are the first I heard to promise this; it is not a scam.
I can tell you haven't played Guild Wars, in the original GW, the balance was never broken even though people could switch to different servers whenever they wanted to. In World vs World combat there will be a limit to the amount of people that can be in a WvW queue/battleground. So it won't matter if there is 1000 people on a server vs 600, they won't be able to zerg the other server.
What sorceress? Last I checked no sorceress in GW2, you must have watched some other trailer.
Also, gameplay > graphics, please.
Are you serious? Their whole sellig points for that game has been about story and not feeling like you are grinding.
I doubt BW is even focused on what GW2 has or will bring to the table. THey may be a lil concerned about it, but its a B2p game and they know they wont have to compete for a sub.
Introduction first...I don't buy into developers self hype,i have seen it way too often,only to realize very poor efforts from developers.
Now that is out of the way,i will say that is one VERY impressive video,definitely has me interested.There was of course the usual over board rants,like stating other games,the boss reacts ten minutes later,umm i have never seen that game lol.
Anyhoot,it was impressive,i really do hope they can deliver what they preach,they may very well have me as a full time subscriber.
A couple things still bother me,they clearly said GW2 is basically a solo game,does that also mean all these nice settings and cool mobs are just easy mode?Only way to truly find out more about this game is to see some actual in game footage,or if i get to try it for myself.
I will say i was kind of falling further away from GW2,but that video has me interested once again.
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I'm not sure if they do or not. I think it is 2 different games with 2 different selling points and focus points.
Changing the world in SWTOR? Yea, not sure , maybe some end game pvp stuff. I think GW2 probably will have them beat when it comes to something like this.
Anet has mentioned that mobs dynamically scale to the number of players. There may simple be more mobs that come during an event, or in the case of one mob, the mob will grow stronger. Also they have mentioned that players will also scale down to the level of events, only a little bit higher. So if an event is ment for a level five, you will be scaled down to say the power of a lvl 8. Also I dunno what you're subscribing too...but if its something that claims to be GW2, it's a scam and you'll wanna check your bank statements. There are no subscription fees. You buy the game, and you play it. If you want to, you can buy any expansions that come out.
I'm sorry but I don't see what all the frothing at the mouth excitement is about.I saw a lot of talk not backed up with any evidence and a lot of game engine driven movies but nothing that actually looked like actual game play.I hope GW2 turns out great too and that they deliver on all their hype,but until I see actual evidence I ain't going nuts over this.
I mean I can see them delivering ont he no grind thing coz of the B2P business model meaning they don't have to worry aobut retaining subs by artificially extending content so they have time to create more to keep people subbing.As to the rest I need hard evidence that it's in the game and that it actually works in a way that is fun.
Lol your talking like the aion 3.0 video was something they posted before the game lauched to get people to buy the game when it wasnt even released till like 3 months after the game was out, so not really the same thing.
And if you did buy aion a few months after release after seeing that trailer and are butt hurt becasue it wasnt like that then i say thats your fault for not doing any research, becasue it was stated by ncsoft in alot of places that that wasnt what the game is like now and it was more a "this is what we would like aion to be by the time we get to 3.0" and at the time they where on 1.9, so years away.
Anyway nice trailer, looks like im gonna need a new computer if i want to play this game.
Agreed. The video was nice eye candy, but no evidence to backup their claims as of yet. Talk is cheap when it comes to hyping MMO's and their designs may look good on paper but in reality turn out to be very lack-lustre.
For instance, AOC boasted about the use of a directional shield system and spell weaving. In the end the shield system was a complete waste of time, and spell weaving proved to be, in a lot of cases, more hassle than its worth and created a lot of imbalances. SWTOR boasts about focus on story, and whilst I think that both Bioware and Anet are aiming in the right direction with this, it may turn out to be as one dimensional as SWG's "Destiny" quest because aside from the main quest chain, there's nothing else to support it.
And so, even though I hope GW2 AND SWTOR both do well (after all the industry needs some new success stories), I'm yet to be convinced that this game will live up to all it's claimed to be.
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it's good not being over hyped. At least your not coming in and saying the video completely sucks. However, what you see in the video actually happens in the game. It isn't CGI trailer. There are small examples in there of the systems at work, but you just gotta know where to look for them. An example of a dynamic event taking place would be where you see teh centaurs charging in with the things overhead blowing up. The dragon is real and exists in the game. Martin confirmed over on GW2G. It's called The Shatterer. I guess it's one of the first dragons you meet, and i guess players may run into them during the demo. Anet seems to know what they are doing, as they've said they've spent hours polishing the beginning areas for the demos.
You sir, are just the typical misinformed troll who likes to bash on games because you are either :
a) Enraged
b) Fanboi of the game's competition
or
c) a troll who simply likes to troll, because he obviously has nothing else to do, he's not actually good at any games nor plays any.
Gtfo.
This game looks EPIC. Though I didn't have much interest for the game before, I saw this video, I decided to read up about the game on the forum and blog, and I am sold. Can't wait 'till it comes out, then I can finally say PCE WoW. ArenaNet has already delivered with GW1, this is just going to be epic. And obviously the best part, NO MONTHLY FEES!
Looks fun wonder when its release date is.
Hyping the game is everyone's choice if they decided to do so. The trailer reminds YOU of Aion.
But this not about Aion...again, discuss GW2, not Aion in this thread.
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Arenanet has already answered that: "when it's done". If you want more information head over the News, Interviews, & Articles section on www.guildwars2guru.com/forums. There it contains every article, even just rehashes of previous articles, released on the subject of Guild Wars 2. Take a look through it. The Community Managers for ArenaNet also post on that forum as well
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Just to expand on this. I applaud people for being skeptical and not buying into 'the hype', but what bookworm is talking about is true if you analyze what you are seeing. Granted the lack of a UI does make it hard to swallow as 'actual gameplay', but much of what you are seeing is game engine driven. You are seeing glimpses of what the game will look like; what's lacking is the persistant world they are talking about (which hopefully we'll see later). They've shown examples of combining attacks to create combos (charging the charr w. lightning so his rifle shots shock the enemy, creating a firewall to ignite arrows, etc.).
As for how fun this will be, that will have to wait for launch, but I think it's a bit harsh to put these guys in the same category as company's like Funcom. They have a reputation (albeit a limited one) of producing quality games that live up to their own standards.
- also, I don't see how people can think this game is 'overhyped'. Compared to most of the large titles released in the MMO genre, the info coming from anet has been somewhat limited for this game as well as the first one. They tend to release just enough info to let players know what type of game it's going to be, and then let them see for themselves whether or not they enjoy the specifics.
About the bosses: from what I understand in the article, there'll be 2 stages for the demo, you can step into the demo at L1. The sand elementalist, the massive 2 hands that create a whirlwind of all kinds of stuff is one of the bosses that you encounter at L1.
Then you have the 2nd stage of the demo, where you can step into L47 in a Charr area, the cannon fortress that is shown in the video, and this is where also the dragon shown in the video is lurking around.
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The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
I must say thats the best trailer I have ever seen for a mmo. Showing gameplay and the makers telling exactly what makes Guild Wars 2 special is superb.
Yup, "Shatterer" dragon. I am more impressed by those Earth Hands, I really hoped the vid would show the Purple Dragon corrupt all those heroes charging at it with it's special breathe attack... a missed opportunity!
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Both Brad McQuaid and Richard Garriott proved that it doesn't matter what your reputation / heritage is, you can still mess up your next product. This is why I don't think it's harsh at all to make reference to the mistakes made by Funcom when it comes to claims made by MMO companies prior to launch. Bioware, Anet, SquareEnix and all the others have marketing departments who will be telling those who take part in interviews / videos to "big up" their game by "embellishing" the truth a little. I'm not necessarily talking about lies mind you, but just a little over emphasis here and there. Which is why one has to be very careful when listening / watching these announcements. A lot can be smoke and mirrors.
On the subject of overhyping, its funny you saying that compared to "the info coming from anet has been somewhat limited", which is precisely what Bioware are doing as well. And yet, people are claiming that SWTOR is being overhyped (a statement which personally I don't agree with).
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Perhaps the people commenting who believe the trailer is full of CGI magic (as opposed to godmode camera angles with little other intervention) don't know that ANet will be having live demos at Gamescom next week.
The fact is that it is entirely possible that the emperor has no clothes, that we've been hoodwinked and bamboozled, distracted by shiny lights and glittery things. It's possible that the ACTUAL gameplay of Guild Wars 2 is as different from that trailer as Warhammer Online's gameplay was from the CGI trailers EAMythic released.
If that were the case, however, ANet's ruination at the hands of disgruntled fanboys would be displayed to the interwebs via 24-hour livestream directly from Cologne, Germany. I mean, it's possible. I just don't think that ANet is that delusional or career suicidal to insist that if they're talking about game mechanics, it means the mechanics are in-game, then open up 45 demo stations and stream the results to fans who have been chomping at the bit to see just that - if they were blowing sand up our skirts.
But hey, we'll find out in a week! Either way, it will be interesting.
The thing is, live demos on rigs specially designed for the job and showing scenarios that are specially designed for the show are not necessarily indicative of how the rest of the game will be on joe publics pc at launch. And so, we have to take what is shown at the demo "with a pinch of salt".
However, the good point is that at least the demo will give a little more insight into the game.
As an aside, one thing I've noticed about these videos is that Anet are heavily using a lot of "bloom" effects. The point is, using such an effect is like putting vasceline (petrolium based clear lubricant) on a camera lens, it can hide a lot of imperfections in the subject matter. Thus making the subject "appear" to be more aesthetically pleasing to the viewer than it is in reality.
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