Since EQ2 went free, i figure i will give it a try. Very disappointed. The restrictions on the free game is fine with me (developers have to make money somewhere) but the game itself is VERY dissappointing. I am playing WOW, LOTRO f2p beta and DDO so those will be used as point of comparison.
Graphics is horrible. I am talking about art design here. Animation, environmental design, character, mob .. none looks very good. WOW has MUCH better animation & art design, despite the low poly count, and LOTRO has much more detailed graphics. Even DDO, which is the weakest in graphics, look better than EQ2.
I played a Wiz for a few hours. I used to play a Wiz in EQ. I play wiz type toon in all my mmos (mage in wow, sorcerer in DDO, rune keeper in LOTRO). So i am familiar with that class. The mechanics and balance is horrible for teh EQ2 wiz at low level. Every mob is a one shot. I am sure someone will tell me it will be better at higher level. Well, i don't incline to "suffer" a game for the low levels before i get to the good parts.
Given more and more MMOs are free, i don't think i will spend any time at EQ2.
Considering every post I've ever read by you has been in praise of Wow's glory, I have to ask, why would you even bother trying some other game? Especially a game that is a bit older than wow, and subscription wise has never come within a fraction of Wow's levels. In fact, I'm not sure if EQ2 even came anywhere near EQ1's subscriber base.
Any way, I actually agree with you on just about all your points on why EQ2 is a lackluster game, but again I have to ask, since you always state wow and wow's game model is so damn perfect, why are you looking for something else?
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, riddle 'em with bullets
WOW was released around the same time and it looks 10x better just because of art direction (polygon-wise, it is about the same, or lower than EQ2).
Well, each to their own as they say. To some EQ2 looks really good to others not so much. Personally I've never liked the visuals in either WOW or EQ2. For different reasons of course, I've never liked WOW's art direction as I've always felt it ripped warhammer a bit to much. EQ2 I always felt looked plastic and unrealistic, which is fine to be unrealistic, yet not when you're going for a realistic look.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Graphics is horrible. I am talking about art design here. Animation, environmental design, character, mob .. none looks very good. WOW has MUCH better animation & art design.....
I stopped reading right there.
Why? Dont like reading facts? WoW does indeed have better ART than EQ2 because Sony chose to go 100% the realistc route which explains the lack of good graphic design / bad models / plastic looking lands , rocks..ect.. I think EQ2 would have faired better graphically had Sony not made the huge mistake of the engine being CPU heavy.
And there is no contest as far as animations are concerned.. WoW easily. EQ2 is very stiff and clunky to me.
Do I think EQ2 graphics are nice? Not really. In some cases they look ok but for the most part I find them ugly and a total failure of a " realistic " view point. I can deal with lesser / ugly graphics if thought and care goes into the world design. I feel none of that with EQ2.
Do I think WoW graphics are nice? For the most part I do. I can deal with low res textures when the world and art design are as good as they are in WoW.
And yes I can run EQ2 maxxed out and get 30+ FPS in normal gameplay.
Since EQ2 went free, i figure i will give it a try. Very disappointed. The restrictions on the free game is fine with me (developers have to make money somewhere) but the game itself is VERY dissappointing. I am playing WOW, LOTRO f2p beta and DDO so those will be used as point of comparison.
Graphics is horrible. I am talking about art design here. Animation, environmental design, character, mob .. none looks very good. WOW has MUCH better animation & art design, despite the low poly count, and LOTRO has much more detailed graphics. Even DDO, which is the weakest in graphics, look better than EQ2.
I played a Wiz for a few hours. I used to play a Wiz in EQ. I play wiz type toon in all my mmos (mage in wow, sorcerer in DDO, rune keeper in LOTRO). So i am familiar with that class. The mechanics and balance is horrible for teh EQ2 wiz at low level. Every mob is a one shot. I am sure someone will tell me it will be better at higher level. Well, i don't incline to "suffer" a game for the low levels before i get to the good parts.
Given more and more MMOs are free, i don't think i will spend any time at EQ2.
Considering every post I've ever read by you has been in praise of Wow's glory, I have to ask, why would you even bother trying some other game? Especially a game that is a bit older than wow, and subscription wise has never come within a fraction of Wow's levels. In fact, I'm not sure if EQ2 even came anywhere near EQ1's subscriber base.
Any way, I actually agree with you on just about all your points on why EQ2 is a lackluster game, but again I have to ask, since you always state wow and wow's game model is so damn perfect, why are you looking for something else?
Because i like some variety? Who wants to just play ONE game, no matter how good it is? The same game gets boring.
Plus, I also like DDO & LOTRO. Both of those are much better games than EQ2. LOTRO is much prettier and DDO's dungeon system is a good department from the wow like quest/dungeon/raid boss encounters.
I would say LOTRO looks as good as WOW (more detailed, less fluid in animation though).
Since EQ2 went free, i figure i will give it a try. Very disappointed. The restrictions on the free game is fine with me (developers have to make money somewhere) but the game itself is VERY dissappointing. I am playing WOW, LOTRO f2p beta and DDO so those will be used as point of comparison.
Graphics is horrible. I am talking about art design here. Animation, environmental design, character, mob .. none looks very good. WOW has MUCH better animation & art design, despite the low poly count, and LOTRO has much more detailed graphics. Even DDO, which is the weakest in graphics, look better than EQ2.
I played a Wiz for a few hours. I used to play a Wiz in EQ. I play wiz type toon in all my mmos (mage in wow, sorcerer in DDO, rune keeper in LOTRO). So i am familiar with that class. The mechanics and balance is horrible for teh EQ2 wiz at low level. Every mob is a one shot. I am sure someone will tell me it will be better at higher level. Well, i don't incline to "suffer" a game for the low levels before i get to the good parts.
Given more and more MMOs are free, i don't think i will spend any time at EQ2.
Graphics are just an opinion friend. myself i think eq2s are far superior, but again, just an opinion.
On another note eq2 is an old game now friend and if graphics are so important,.....didnt you notice that before you jumped in?
Well, it is free. I figure i should at least give it a chance.
WOW was released around the same time and it looks 10x better just because of art direction (polygon-wise, it is about the same, or lower than EQ2).
Plus, so what if it is old? I pick a game to play because i like it (and that includes gameplay AND graphics), NOT because it is fair. There is a reason why I don't play older games.
Exactly, I won't play UO (well that is a bad game anyway ... ganging, clicking rocks to level up mining is boring, everyone a tank mage ...) and AO because of their terribly graphics. Games move forward. There is no reason to be stuck in the past. For those which age well (WOW, Diablo ....), success can be long lived. For those which don't .. well .. too bad for them.
(Actually i tried AO and can't get pass the really really dated graphics/interface)
Ok if you prefer WoW-style graphics to EQ2-style graphics. They're not the same genre of art at all. Some people hate WoW style graphics so you'd be hard-pressed to convince them that WoW's graphics are better. I do think EQ2's graphics on the character models aren't as good as WoW's simply due to the textures on the models. If you zoom in, you can see the imperfections. In WoW, there are less flaws and the detail of the graphics on high settings is great. EQ2's artwork doesn't bother me though. It's one of the better-looking games out there and I think the animations/spell effects are better than most games that are in a similar genre of art (like LotRO's... blech).
That's where you and I disagree, I can play dated-looking games with no problems. Outside of AoC and EVE, most of today's MMOs look dated anyway, even WoW. But AoC's game mechanics aren't even remotely as good as AO's from my experience. Shame you're missing out on these titles, but to each their own.
Edit - if you're serious about giving it a try because it's free, then graphics should only be a minor consideration. Gameplay, restrictions, etc. are all more important, no?
EQ2's gfx seemed pretty good IMO, especially for the time. I don't get how anyone can say much positive about WoW's gfx and animations, other than they aren't horrible for their age. I guess because they look like cartoons, silly looking animations aren't as apparent. Since EQ2 and LotRO go for a more realistic look, their animations are scrutinized, more.
I do remember thinking the female human butt looks huge.
I also remember that the quests were pretty cookie cutter in the starter area, like many MMO's. Agree there.
I'll probably check it out this weekend for the halibut.
Lol so i was thinking about replaying EQ2 since it went free, until i saw they that limit the gear (no mythicals) as well as your level cap (even if you pay the 14.99 you can only get to level 80 vs the tard that wasted 200 bucks for the full year that gets to level to 90) but the worst thing that they did, was maxed your spell levels. Adept being the highest you can get if you're playing for free is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. It not only hinders the dps you will be doing in end game (completely leaving you out of a raid because of this) but for people like me who play on a pvp server im just asking to get owned all day. I was halfway through the download till i read that and i instantly hit canceled and deleted what little was already installed on my pc. What a waste. That is the shittiest business model i have ever seen. But leave it up to SoE to come up with a brain dead thing to destroy a game. SWG anyone?
Lol so i was thinking about replaying EQ2 since it went free, until i saw they that limit the gear (no mythicals) as well as your level cap (even if you pay the 14.99 you can only get to level 80 vs the tard that wasted 200 bucks for the full year that gets to level to 90) but the worst thing that they did, was maxed your spell levels. Adept being the highest you can get if you're playing for free is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. It not only hinders the dps you will be doing in end game (completely leaving you out of a raid because of this) but for people like me who play on a pvp server im just asking to get owned all day. I was halfway through the download till i read that and i instantly hit canceled and deleted what little was already installed on my pc. What a waste. That is the shittiest business model i have ever seen. But leave it up to SoE to come up with a brain dead thing to destroy a game. SWG anyone?
Woah, woah, woah! Slow down there bud! You do know that Extended is only on one server right now, right? This server is not PvP so the PvP issue shouldn't happen unless SoE decide to release Extended on all of their remaining servers or make a PvP Extended server.
Yes, capping loot and the spell tier is sucky. I wonder why they did it other than to coerce bronze/silver players to upgrade to platinum. Or, quite simply, because this is still a beta and they're apparently listening to player feedback (they added the class packs upon our suggestions), they will add some sort of item to unlock those better tiers or maybe reneg on that restriction.
Lol so i was thinking about replaying EQ2 since it went free, until i saw they that limit the gear (no mythicals) as well as your level cap (even if you pay the 14.99 you can only get to level 80 vs the tard that wasted 200 bucks for the full year that gets to level to 90)
Well, if you play on the live servers (evidently you do), own the latest expansion and log into EQ2X with the same Station account, then I believe you get the level cap increase. My main concern with the spell levels isn't how high they can go, it's how to get the Journeyman versions without either the broker or having to make them all myself.
Edit - if you're serious about giving it a try because it's free, then graphics should only be a minor consideration. Gameplay, restrictions, etc. are all more important, no?
No. Everything matters. Graphics, gameplay, ....
There are PLENTY of games with good graphics *AND* gameplay that i don't need to sacrifice one for the other.
There's a growing trend in selfish MMO gamers, and a good amount of them seems to be a portion of the more casual gamers. It's these players that I question whether or not they should really be playing an MMO if they apparently can't treat other players who they share gamespace with respectfully.
They pay the same $15 a month as you do. And MMOs are business open to all. I don't see why a player needs to "respect" anyone. If he wants to be a dick, let him. Black list and don't play with him.
I drop group too if someone cause a wipe in a simple 5-man wow dungeon. Sue me.
Went through some post history to find this but after reading that I don't think I can even take your opinions seriously. I think it's time for you to quit MMOs altogether. Console games may suit someone of your mentality a little better.
Anyhow, my opinion on the subject is that EQ2 has much better graphics then all the games mentioned. Although, to get the graphics to really stand out in EQ2; you have to go through the settings yourself. The ones provided by SOE don't really cut it.
This is my toon at the start up screen. Looks pretty good to me.
There are PLENTY of games with good graphics *AND* gameplay that i don't need to sacrifice one for the other.
You're quite weird. If a game has amazing gameplay I don't see why graphics are such a big deal. The problem comes in when the gameplay sucks. Even great graphics won't keep me playing a game that has bad gameplay.
So what are these amazing F2A games you are talking about that have good graphics and gameplay? I really do want to know because so far I haven't come across any that I could stomach for more than about 2-3 hours. That includes DDO, which I thought looked like crap and was boring as hell. That game is seriously over-rated in my view.
There are PLENTY of games with good graphics *AND* gameplay that i don't need to sacrifice one for the other.
You're quite weird. If a game has amazing gameplay I don't see why graphics are such a big deal. The problem comes in when the gameplay sucks. Even great graphics won't keep me playing a game that has bad gameplay.
So what are these amazing F2A games you are talking about that have good graphics and gameplay? I really do want to know because so far I haven't come across any that I could stomach for more than about 2-3 hours. That includes DDO, which I thought looked like crap and was boring as hell. That game is seriously over-rated in my view.
/agree
F2P MMO's are generally pretty rubbish. At present, EQ2X is standing head and shoulders above all others for BOTH graphics and gameplay. If you know a F2P that is better, please do let me know so I can try it out.
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
There are PLENTY of games with good graphics *AND* gameplay that i don't need to sacrifice one for the other.
You're quite weird. If a game has amazing gameplay I don't see why graphics are such a big deal. The problem comes in when the gameplay sucks. Even great graphics won't keep me playing a game that has bad gameplay.
So what are these amazing F2A games you are talking about that have good graphics and gameplay? I really do want to know because so far I haven't come across any that I could stomach for more than about 2-3 hours. That includes DDO, which I thought looked like crap and was boring as hell. That game is seriously over-rated in my view.
A game might have perfect gameplay, but if gfx suck I'll probably pass on it (unless I played it in the past and have the nostalgia factor). I personally put gfx and gameplay on almost equal ground, though gameplay does have a slightly higher place.
And more on topic i like EQ2's gfx and gameplay, but I did get bored with it around lvl 60, but I usually get bored with all games when I'm 3/4 - 4/5 of the way to max lvl
My god has horns.... nah, I don't think he is real either.
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
A game might have perfect gameplay, but if gfx suck I'll probably pass on it (unless I played it in the past and have the nostalgia factor). I personally put gfx and gameplay on almost equal ground, though gameplay does have a slightly higher place.
And more on topic i like EQ2's gfx and gameplay, but I did get bored with it around lvl 60, but I usually get bored with all games when I'm 3/4 - 4/5 of the way to max lvl
I do like nice graphics too, but if a game had bad graphics and perfect gamplay, I'd play it, no qualms. So far, I haven't come across any perfect games
I also find there's a difference between dated graphics and bad graphics. EQ2's are a bit dated, but they're not bad. I still like the graphics of the older games: they did more with less if you see what I mean.
I am a bit like you in that I do tend to poop out on games 3/4 or 4/5 of the way as well. I take a break, and then come back and get the character to max level. I never reached max level in EQ2, because of real life issues for the most part. Now that Extended is being offered, I'm pretty excited about being able to play a la carte rather than having a sub.
To the guy that posted those EQ 2 screenshots they dont look dreadful at all. They actually look pretty good to me but it clearly shows you dont have the graphics set up at all. Look at how the screens I posted look compared to yours.
EQ 2 is a good game only thing it needs is more players really. And its not bad at all, if you look at the other 100 mmorpg that has been released last 2 years. Its acually one of the better ones. And a very good mmo if you wanna try it and got the computer for it, lots of stuff to do and even more to do if your more than 3 people playing together.
To the guy that posted those EQ 2 screenshots they dont look dreadful at all. They actually look pretty good to me but it clearly shows you dont have the graphics set up at all. Look at how the screens I posted look compared to yours.
Yeah and his settings seem very low + he choose the most boring and poormake surroundings so yeah.
I set the game to max settings right away and thought it looked pretty bad. I did not see much of a difference really. Maybe it is the art style etc. To me all the backgrounds. . both in Mannish's shots and the others looked washed out and bland. The world seems dull etc. I played the game for a bit because graphics are secondary to me by far. . but the game didn't seem that great either. I know it is older but the first quests are no different than other games I am tired of. Go kill 8 rock guys. . come back. . go collect 3 rocks that were right by the rock guys you just killed (time sink) come back. Now go past the rock guys to the guy at the campfire and get your next mission.
What makes the game stand out from others? I just can't get into it. I do tend to like more open free game worlds. . FE, SWG, Darkfall etc. Maybe I am just tired of the quest level quest level thing.
I understand that. . I just hear people say how great the graphics are so I figured I was missing something. The recent EQ2 vs. Vanguard etc. gave the graphics etc. a high rating.
I think other games that are that old look better. Must just be some personal taste factor. I also think I need to get past the starting areas. Also when it was released the most of the graphics could not be maximised on those systems so I expected some amount of scalability. . or more I guess.
You know this game was made 6 years ago right? You talk like it just released.
And so is WoW, but it has aged much better both graphic and gameplay wise.
Its you who are telling us that EQ2 have awesome graphics among the best in MMOs, and we are saying that it looks very dated and that the art style is very unatractive.
If WoW = The Beatles and WAR = Led Zeppelin Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
You know this game was made 6 years ago right? You talk like it just released.
And so is WoW, but it has aged much better both graphic and gameplay wise.
Its you who are telling us that EQ2 have awesome graphics among the best in MMOs, and we are saying that it looks very dated and that the art style is very unatractive.
I dont play WoW so I dont know much about but can you please post a few pics so I can see how it looks? In Everquest 2 you get levels from Quest and killing mobs so how to you get levels in WoW? How has it aged Gameplay Wise?
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Considering every post I've ever read by you has been in praise of Wow's glory, I have to ask, why would you even bother trying some other game? Especially a game that is a bit older than wow, and subscription wise has never come within a fraction of Wow's levels. In fact, I'm not sure if EQ2 even came anywhere near EQ1's subscriber base.
Any way, I actually agree with you on just about all your points on why EQ2 is a lackluster game, but again I have to ask, since you always state wow and wow's game model is so damn perfect, why are you looking for something else?
If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, riddle 'em with bullets
Well, each to their own as they say. To some EQ2 looks really good to others not so much. Personally I've never liked the visuals in either WOW or EQ2. For different reasons of course, I've never liked WOW's art direction as I've always felt it ripped warhammer a bit to much. EQ2 I always felt looked plastic and unrealistic, which is fine to be unrealistic, yet not when you're going for a realistic look.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Why? Dont like reading facts? WoW does indeed have better ART than EQ2 because Sony chose to go 100% the realistc route which explains the lack of good graphic design / bad models / plastic looking lands , rocks..ect.. I think EQ2 would have faired better graphically had Sony not made the huge mistake of the engine being CPU heavy.
And there is no contest as far as animations are concerned.. WoW easily. EQ2 is very stiff and clunky to me.
Do I think EQ2 graphics are nice? Not really. In some cases they look ok but for the most part I find them ugly and a total failure of a " realistic " view point. I can deal with lesser / ugly graphics if thought and care goes into the world design. I feel none of that with EQ2.
Do I think WoW graphics are nice? For the most part I do. I can deal with low res textures when the world and art design are as good as they are in WoW.
And yes I can run EQ2 maxxed out and get 30+ FPS in normal gameplay.
Because i like some variety? Who wants to just play ONE game, no matter how good it is? The same game gets boring.
Plus, I also like DDO & LOTRO. Both of those are much better games than EQ2. LOTRO is much prettier and DDO's dungeon system is a good department from the wow like quest/dungeon/raid boss encounters.
I would say LOTRO looks as good as WOW (more detailed, less fluid in animation though).
Well, it is free. I figure i should at least give it a chance.
Ok if you prefer WoW-style graphics to EQ2-style graphics. They're not the same genre of art at all. Some people hate WoW style graphics so you'd be hard-pressed to convince them that WoW's graphics are better. I do think EQ2's graphics on the character models aren't as good as WoW's simply due to the textures on the models. If you zoom in, you can see the imperfections. In WoW, there are less flaws and the detail of the graphics on high settings is great. EQ2's artwork doesn't bother me though. It's one of the better-looking games out there and I think the animations/spell effects are better than most games that are in a similar genre of art (like LotRO's... blech).
That's where you and I disagree, I can play dated-looking games with no problems. Outside of AoC and EVE, most of today's MMOs look dated anyway, even WoW. But AoC's game mechanics aren't even remotely as good as AO's from my experience. Shame you're missing out on these titles, but to each their own.
Edit - if you're serious about giving it a try because it's free, then graphics should only be a minor consideration. Gameplay, restrictions, etc. are all more important, no?
Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.
EQ2's gfx seemed pretty good IMO, especially for the time. I don't get how anyone can say much positive about WoW's gfx and animations, other than they aren't horrible for their age. I guess because they look like cartoons, silly looking animations aren't as apparent. Since EQ2 and LotRO go for a more realistic look, their animations are scrutinized, more.
I do remember thinking the female human butt looks huge.
I also remember that the quests were pretty cookie cutter in the starter area, like many MMO's. Agree there.
I'll probably check it out this weekend for the halibut.
Lol so i was thinking about replaying EQ2 since it went free, until i saw they that limit the gear (no mythicals) as well as your level cap (even if you pay the 14.99 you can only get to level 80 vs the tard that wasted 200 bucks for the full year that gets to level to 90) but the worst thing that they did, was maxed your spell levels. Adept being the highest you can get if you're playing for free is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. It not only hinders the dps you will be doing in end game (completely leaving you out of a raid because of this) but for people like me who play on a pvp server im just asking to get owned all day. I was halfway through the download till i read that and i instantly hit canceled and deleted what little was already installed on my pc. What a waste. That is the shittiest business model i have ever seen. But leave it up to SoE to come up with a brain dead thing to destroy a game. SWG anyone?
Woah, woah, woah! Slow down there bud! You do know that Extended is only on one server right now, right? This server is not PvP so the PvP issue shouldn't happen unless SoE decide to release Extended on all of their remaining servers or make a PvP Extended server.
Yes, capping loot and the spell tier is sucky. I wonder why they did it other than to coerce bronze/silver players to upgrade to platinum. Or, quite simply, because this is still a beta and they're apparently listening to player feedback (they added the class packs upon our suggestions), they will add some sort of item to unlock those better tiers or maybe reneg on that restriction.
Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.
Well, if you play on the live servers (evidently you do), own the latest expansion and log into EQ2X with the same Station account, then I believe you get the level cap increase. My main concern with the spell levels isn't how high they can go, it's how to get the Journeyman versions without either the broker or having to make them all myself.
No. Everything matters. Graphics, gameplay, ....
There are PLENTY of games with good graphics *AND* gameplay that i don't need to sacrifice one for the other.
You are on my time too.
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They pay the same $15 a month as you do. And MMOs are business open to all. I don't see why a player needs to "respect" anyone. If he wants to be a dick, let him. Black list and don't play with him.
I drop group too if someone cause a wipe in a simple 5-man wow dungeon. Sue me.
Went through some post history to find this but after reading that I don't think I can even take your opinions seriously. I think it's time for you to quit MMOs altogether. Console games may suit someone of your mentality a little better.
Anyhow, my opinion on the subject is that EQ2 has much better graphics then all the games mentioned. Although, to get the graphics to really stand out in EQ2; you have to go through the settings yourself. The ones provided by SOE don't really cut it.
This is my toon at the start up screen. Looks pretty good to me.
You're quite weird. If a game has amazing gameplay I don't see why graphics are such a big deal. The problem comes in when the gameplay sucks. Even great graphics won't keep me playing a game that has bad gameplay.
So what are these amazing F2A games you are talking about that have good graphics and gameplay? I really do want to know because so far I haven't come across any that I could stomach for more than about 2-3 hours. That includes DDO, which I thought looked like crap and was boring as hell. That game is seriously over-rated in my view.
Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.
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F2P MMO's are generally pretty rubbish. At present, EQ2X is standing head and shoulders above all others for BOTH graphics and gameplay. If you know a F2P that is better, please do let me know so I can try it out.
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
A game might have perfect gameplay, but if gfx suck I'll probably pass on it (unless I played it in the past and have the nostalgia factor). I personally put gfx and gameplay on almost equal ground, though gameplay does have a slightly higher place.
And more on topic i like EQ2's gfx and gameplay, but I did get bored with it around lvl 60, but I usually get bored with all games when I'm 3/4 - 4/5 of the way to max lvl
My god has horns.... nah, I don't think he is real either.
Ok, lets look at these dreadful EQ2 graphics:
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
I do like nice graphics too, but if a game had bad graphics and perfect gamplay, I'd play it, no qualms. So far, I haven't come across any perfect games
I also find there's a difference between dated graphics and bad graphics. EQ2's are a bit dated, but they're not bad. I still like the graphics of the older games: they did more with less if you see what I mean.
I am a bit like you in that I do tend to poop out on games 3/4 or 4/5 of the way as well. I take a break, and then come back and get the character to max level. I never reached max level in EQ2, because of real life issues for the most part. Now that Extended is being offered, I'm pretty excited about being able to play a la carte rather than having a sub.
Playing MUDs and MMOs since 1994.
To the guy that posted those EQ 2 screenshots they dont look dreadful at all. They actually look pretty good to me but it clearly shows you dont have the graphics set up at all. Look at how the screens I posted look compared to yours.
EQ 2 is a good game only thing it needs is more players really. And its not bad at all, if you look at the other 100 mmorpg that has been released last 2 years. Its acually one of the better ones. And a very good mmo if you wanna try it and got the computer for it, lots of stuff to do and even more to do if your more than 3 people playing together.
Yeah and his settings seem very low + he choose the most boring and poormake surroundings so yeah.
I set the game to max settings right away and thought it looked pretty bad. I did not see much of a difference really. Maybe it is the art style etc. To me all the backgrounds. . both in Mannish's shots and the others looked washed out and bland. The world seems dull etc. I played the game for a bit because graphics are secondary to me by far. . but the game didn't seem that great either. I know it is older but the first quests are no different than other games I am tired of. Go kill 8 rock guys. . come back. . go collect 3 rocks that were right by the rock guys you just killed (time sink) come back. Now go past the rock guys to the guy at the campfire and get your next mission.
What makes the game stand out from others? I just can't get into it. I do tend to like more open free game worlds. . FE, SWG, Darkfall etc. Maybe I am just tired of the quest level quest level thing.
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You know this game was made 6 years ago right? You talk like it just released.
I understand that. . I just hear people say how great the graphics are so I figured I was missing something. The recent EQ2 vs. Vanguard etc. gave the graphics etc. a high rating.
I think other games that are that old look better. Must just be some personal taste factor. I also think I need to get past the starting areas. Also when it was released the most of the graphics could not be maximised on those systems so I expected some amount of scalability. . or more I guess.
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And so is WoW, but it has aged much better both graphic and gameplay wise.
Its you who are telling us that EQ2 have awesome graphics among the best in MMOs, and we are saying that it looks very dated and that the art style is very unatractive.
If WoW = The Beatles
and WAR = Led Zeppelin
Then LotrO = Pink Floyd
I dont play WoW so I dont know much about but can you please post a few pics so I can see how it looks? In Everquest 2 you get levels from Quest and killing mobs so how to you get levels in WoW? How has it aged Gameplay Wise?