Although I am not playing CoH, I think that declaring another crusade on a mmo game is a little ....
IMHO, OP was looking for a excuse to leave CoH for Eve. I know it is hard since by OP's signature OP has invested a lot of time in CoH but it is better to be honest with yourself. I don't like Eve, I couldn't bear more than a couple days on the trial. I heared they have a subterfuge mechanism to change real money for ingame money, arguable good or bad (no need to discuss it here). However, Eve is still a game that is great for a lot of people, so nothing wrong with playing it.
Although I am not playing CoH, I think that declaring another crusade on a mmo game is a little ....
IMHO, OP was looking for a excuse to leave CoH for Eve. I know it is hard since by OP's signature OP has invested a lot of time in CoH but it is better to be honest with yourself. I don't like Eve, I couldn't bear more than a couple days on the trial. I heared they have a subterfuge mechanism to change real money for ingame money, arguable good or bad (no need to discuss it here). However, Eve is still a game that is great for a lot of people, so nothing wrong with playing it.
You got some magic tarot cards or something?
Seems pretty weird to know why someone does something without even knowing that person, and in the process completely negating his own valid reason.
The reason he left was explained in the op, why is it so hard to believe what he posted?
It may not be valid in your book, but as shown by a couple of replies, it is valid for other people as well.
Although I am not playing CoH, I think that declaring another crusade on a mmo game is a little ....
IMHO, OP was looking for a excuse to leave CoH for Eve. I know it is hard since by OP's signature OP has invested a lot of time in CoH but it is better to be honest with yourself. I don't like Eve, I couldn't bear more than a couple days on the trial. I heared they have a subterfuge mechanism to change real money for ingame money, arguable good or bad (no need to discuss it here). However, Eve is still a game that is great for a lot of people, so nothing wrong with playing it.
You got some magic tarot cards or something?
Seems pretty weird to know why someone does something without even knowing that person, and in the process completely negating his own valid reason.
The reason he left was explained in the op, why is it so hard to believe what he posted?
It may not be valid in your book, but as shown by a couple of replies, it is valid for other people as well.
It is an opinion about OP's opinion and in no way where intended to offend or dimining him. The topic is OPs leaving because the fiesta pack not the fiesta pack itself, so I am arguing that it might be another reason for him to leave. if OP wanted to restrict the discussion to the fiesta pack he should has saved the part of quitting and going to Eve, . By OP's post over the whole forum he was a strong defender of CoH, by his signature a dedicated player, so my hypothesis is not out of the reign of possibilities since it is common than people leaving something that they were attached for long time, look for one event or excuse to do so.
To each their own, but I do find that selling Emotes is pretty silly when most games incorporate them for free. Frankly I found the game too repetitive.
What I do find depressing lately is the fact that when a player comes on here and provides their reason as to why they are leaving a game, their reason gets attacked unfairly. There are many breaking points for games. For me, I could have the best game in my hands known to mankind and would quit if there were e lack of weapons or lack of uniqueness. After that I have to be able to swim and jump. Those two are essential to me, I don't know why, but it really bothers me when a developer decides to eliminate jumping. Then physics can bother me and the environment.
Easy to see, there are PLENTY of reasons that games can just be unplayable, either due to frustration or a silly idea by the developer to sell what should be free by basic standards. Trying to squeeze every last bit of money from a subscriber is just business, I don't like it either. This is a subscriber, not a F2P-er, you are getting their money regardless.
I agree with the OP, if this is the straw that broke the camels back, then so be it. Make a stand and quit, Minus $15 or so to them isn't much, but you know, sometimes it just feels good to do whats right.
I recently earned my 57 month veteran reward badge. That means that I weas subscribed to City of Heroes for nearly five years.
I love City of Heroes. I love being able to fly around, or jump really high, I love the different powers, the numerous amounts of costume sets, how I can make nearly any character I can imagine in the costume creator. The new Going Rogue expansion was awesome.
But I cannot, in good conscience, give Paragon Studios or NCSoft a single cent more of my money.
As of today, these guys have begun to reach Star Trek Online/Cryptic Studios level of pathetic by selling a pack of emotes.
So, I've cancelled my subscription and I'll put a huge "DO NOT BUY" stamp on the game. I recommend that everyone avoids this stinker.
The whole idea of having to pay 15$ a month to finance the developement of these ingame items is fine by me....BUT having to pay twice for some emotes (or whatever for that matter) is just greedy......i will never have a part of that.
Good for you Xondar to let your money do the talking......that seems to be the only language they know these days.
People who buy these "packs" from these shops are asking for it.......if you keep buying, they will generate even more silly items for you to buy.
if you pay a monthly fee then you should get the ingame items for free (you already payd for the developement of them)
People with principles and sticking with it are a rare species on this planet.
I applaud you for this op.
(If everybody would do this the whole greedy nickle and diming the industry is up to lately would soon be a thing of the past).
not sure you read all the posts he admits to buying other (fluff) packs from their store. sooo..
i'm still at a loss at why THIS one pack was the line they crossed for you to quit after 5 years and you say you still love the game? i'm like..seriously what? i'm not trying to be a tool it just buggs the crap out of me for some reason, it just makes no sense at all. you're saying they're getting greedy but they've already been selling cash shop items for how many years and you even bought some of them. i could see if this was the very first item they added to a cash shop and for you to take a stand but it just doesn't make sense this late in the game.i mean i could deffinitly see if it was a cash shop only power set or cash shop only "get around power" (sorry forget what those are called atm) then hell yeah i'd quit too...but its just more fluff crap that didn't bother you enough to quit before.
i'm on the side of the people dead set against cash shops in a P2P game tho, double dipping is BS.
I kinda thought that they had a modicrum of pride left in their work that they wouldn't feel they had to cross over into the greed side of the force. I thought they'd be like CCP and be one of those final companies that doesn't give into to the microtransaction corporate culture. I'm very sad that my faith was misplaced and I was wrong.
I was fine when they sold a (substantial) costume pack for about $10 twice a year. But now they are ramping up the number of packs, lowering the number of items in them and raising the prices.
What I am wondering is, if this is a precautionary step to gain some revenue before a major competitor hits the market (DCU). Which so far seems to be offering a little more than COH did on the game-play front.
It seems odd they would wait until this late in the game to change things up and go such a route. Still, whether it's due to the trend in this industry or foreseeable losses, this goes to soldify the opinion that this trend in the industry is not slowing down any time soon.
Personally I don't mind micro-transactions as long as they aren't handing out an advantage. Though I'd never support the idea by giving money toward it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Although I am not playing CoH, I think that declaring another crusade on a mmo game is a little ....
IMHO, OP was looking for a excuse to leave CoH for Eve. I know it is hard since by OP's signature OP has invested a lot of time in CoH but it is better to be honest with yourself. I don't like Eve, I couldn't bear more than a couple days on the trial. I heared they have a subterfuge mechanism to change real money for ingame money, arguable good or bad (no need to discuss it here). However, Eve is still a game that is great for a lot of people, so nothing wrong with playing it.
No, I'm not looking for an excuse for anything. I can swing two monthly subscriptions if I want to (it's not like I have to save my allowance or something.) I'm just sick and tired of the video game industry as a whole nickel-and-diming gamers. It's getting to be really pathetic. I have so much invested in CoH to just walk away, and it isn't a decision I take lightly (my main badge hunting character has over 550 badges, and still hasn't switched to villain to get the villain badges.)
I don't even think I'll play EVE yet (I'm still waiting for Incarna,) but I will consider myself a free agent. I might try out trials and stuff and see what I like.
Although I am not playing CoH, I think that declaring another crusade on a mmo game is a little ....
IMHO, OP was looking for a excuse to leave CoH for Eve. I know it is hard since by OP's signature OP has invested a lot of time in CoH but it is better to be honest with yourself. I don't like Eve, I couldn't bear more than a couple days on the trial. I heared they have a subterfuge mechanism to change real money for ingame money, arguable good or bad (no need to discuss it here). However, Eve is still a game that is great for a lot of people, so nothing wrong with playing it.
You got some magic tarot cards or something?
Seems pretty weird to know why someone does something without even knowing that person, and in the process completely negating his own valid reason.
The reason he left was explained in the op, why is it so hard to believe what he posted?
It may not be valid in your book, but as shown by a couple of replies, it is valid for other people as well.
It is an opinion about OP's opinion and in no way where intended to offend or dimining him. The topic is OPs leaving because the fiesta pack not the fiesta pack itself, so I am arguing that it might be another reason for him to leave. if OP wanted to restrict the discussion to the fiesta pack he should has saved the part of quitting and going to Eve, . By OP's post over the whole forum he was a strong defender of CoH, by his signature a dedicated player, so my hypothesis is not out of the reign of possibilities since it is common than people leaving something that they were attached for long time, look for one event or excuse to do so.
I didn't even mention EVE in my original post. I did mention it later as a game where they don't charge people for stupid emote packs and costume packs with less stuff in it than previous packs.
Please don't psychoanalyze me because you're completely wrong.
I recently earned my 57 month veteran reward badge. That means that I weas subscribed to City of Heroes for nearly five years.
I love City of Heroes. I love being able to fly around, or jump really high, I love the different powers, the numerous amounts of costume sets, how I can make nearly any character I can imagine in the costume creator. The new Going Rogue expansion was awesome.
But I cannot, in good conscience, give Paragon Studios or NCSoft a single cent more of my money.
As of today, these guys have begun to reach Star Trek Online/Cryptic Studios level of pathetic by selling a pack of emotes.
So, I've cancelled my subscription and I'll put a huge "DO NOT BUY" stamp on the game. I recommend that everyone avoids this stinker.
I hear you, it isn't right. But guess what I've learned? Most people do not care and even If they do, they will not unsub to prove the point. RMT and subs combined are here to stay. If you quit, you will do nothing other than stop playing a game you enjoy, RMT will still thrive. Unfortunately the majortiy of people who do nto care and the amount of people who buy things out of the shops outweigh the small minority of people who may or may not quit.
Chances are, you will stick to your guns and chances are you will resub down the road and deal with it.
Wait, you are quiting the game not because of gameplay issues, not because of the price, not because lack of enjoyment, but because they decided to sell some purelyfluff and barely cosmetic emotes that you will probably hardly ever see?
Cash shop purist?
Actually, I'm not a cash shop purist. I bought a few of the booster packs they put out because they had some pretty cool costume pieces.
Paragon Studios has been really good about releasing a lot of stuff in the issues they put out. But it seems to me that lately there has been less and less stuff in the issues and more and more stuff in the packs they want you to pay for. I love City of Heroes and I'd really hate for them to cross the line into Cryptic territory. One reason I refuse to ever pay for STO is because their C-Store is just a whole new level of greedy (they have nearly $200 worth of stuff in there and that game has been out for ~7 months.)
I refuse to support NCSoft or Paragon Studios in their descent into greed. This newest pack just feels like they've crossed a line, and I just don't want to be a part of it.
If people ask, I'll no longer recommend this game, I'll no longer subscribe to it, I'll be leaving it behind.
Sometimes we agree with each other on forums sometimes not but one thing I can say is I respect a man who stands by his principal no matter how trivial it seems to some people. I refuse to give Funcom money because in my estimation there is something going on with the engine they use and the technical specs being such that when they release mmo's they suck ass are feature incomplete and they have lied on box art. For the first time in my entire mmo gaming time here was a game that alot of my gaming friends would play which is a luxury I never had as most of my friends are not avid gamers like me but still I denied myself that simple joy because in my estimation it is dangerous to send out a signal that you will accept something you find to be unacceptible.
While I know that like others have posted more and more games will begin to sell things in item shops and within five years I think we will have a few mmo's that don't and they will use that as a selling point but hey if your actions help the devs keep in mind how they impliment these changes I'm all for it.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
It now turns out that the dance emotes included in the pack (the only unique emotes, the rest are in the game already) were included in the closed beta for Going Rogue, but then they were removed. Further, there are rumours that Positron assured people that the dance emotes would be included in Going Rogue.
Seems NCSoft/Paragon have been attending lectures at Cryptic Studios on how to best nickel and dime people.
thank you!!! I loved CoH but left when the player base fell. It's time for this game to go F2P or just stop all together. Everyone play DC so we can have fun with Super Powers again!
I recently earned my 57 month veteran reward badge. That means that I weas subscribed to City of Heroes for nearly five years. I love City of Heroes. I love being able to fly around, or jump really high, I love the different powers, the numerous amounts of costume sets, how I can make nearly any character I can imagine in the costume creator. The new Going Rogue expansion was awesome. But I cannot, in good conscience, give Paragon Studios or NCSoft a single cent more of my money. As of today, these guys have begun to reach Star Trek Online/Cryptic Studios level of pathetic by selling a pack of emotes. So, I've cancelled my subscription and I'll put a huge "DO NOT BUY" stamp on the game. I recommend that everyone avoids this stinker.
Stop whining .... pathetic!!! Upset over some silly emotes in the cash shop. Gimme a break! You're not 10 years old. This is the best mmo going right now and your 57 months subbing only proves that.
I recently earned my 57 month veteran reward badge. That means that I weas subscribed to City of Heroes for nearly five years.
I love City of Heroes. I love being able to fly around, or jump really high, I love the different powers, the numerous amounts of costume sets, how I can make nearly any character I can imagine in the costume creator. The new Going Rogue expansion was awesome.
But I cannot, in good conscience, give Paragon Studios or NCSoft a single cent more of my money.
As of today, these guys have begun to reach Star Trek Online/Cryptic Studios level of pathetic by selling a pack of emotes.
So, I've cancelled my subscription and I'll put a huge "DO NOT BUY" stamp on the game. I recommend that everyone avoids this stinker.
Stop whining .... pathetic!!! Upset over some silly emotes in the cash shop. Gimme a break! You're not 10 years old. This is the best mmo going right now and your 57 months subbing only proves that.
OK then, have fun paying for every new costume piece, every new emote, maybe one day you'll have fun paying for mission arcs, power sets, etc.
I'm simply not willing to support a gaming company that crosses a certain line of greed. I saw an IP I loved, Star Trek, get turned into "Lets Rip Off Star Trek Fans Online!" and now I'm watching City of Heroes turned into "City of Paid Content!"
You may think I'm whining, but companies won't listen to us that microtransactions in a game where we pay a monthly subscription if we keep giving them money. You may be fine with getting nickel and dimed, but I'm not.
If you don't play MMOs that have microtransactions, you basically won't be playing MMOs. But hey, it's your 15, do what you want. I'll admit the packs rub me the wrong way too. You used to get the whole game for $15 a month, but the wedding pack changed all that. The entire MMO sector is going this route, that's all there is to it.
But look on the bright side: game's one step closer to F2P.
Yes Free to Pay or Win, I think the OP is right. It will not take long before people see what is going on and subscription games will continue to flourish.
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Originally posted by jpnole Originally posted by Xondar123I recently earned my 57 month veteran reward badge. That means that I weas subscribed to City of Heroes for nearly five years. I love City of Heroes. I love being able to fly around, or jump really high, I love the different powers, the numerous amounts of costume sets, how I can make nearly any character I can imagine in the costume creator. The new Going Rogue expansion was awesome. But I cannot, in good conscience, give Paragon Studios or NCSoft a single cent more of my money. As of today, these guys have begun to reach Star Trek Online/Cryptic Studios level of pathetic by selling a pack of emotes. So, I've cancelled my subscription and I'll put a huge "DO NOT BUY" stamp on the game. I recommend that everyone avoids this stinker.
Stop whining .... pathetic!!! Upset over some silly emotes in the cash shop. Gimme a break! You're not 10 years old. This is the best mmo going right now and your 57 months subbing only proves that.
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Originally posted by Xondar123 It now turns out that the dance emotes included in the pack (the only unique emotes, the rest are in the game already) were included in the closed beta for Going Rogue, but then they were removed. Further, there are rumours that Positron assured people that the dance emotes would be included in Going Rogue. Seems NCSoft/Paragon have been attending lectures at Cryptic Studios on how to best nickel and dime people.
thank you!!! I loved CoH but left when the player base fell. It's time for this game to go F2P or just stop all together. Everyone play DC so we can have fun with Super Powers again!
See heres the problem with your post. It would urinate off many people who play the game atm. 2 servers at night are in red for population rest yellow so theirs many playing atm.An you quit when others did .Theirs no lemming power set in dc or coh .Thats all you.
To the op great for you .More power to ya .I just got month 39 rewards an i could care less about the emote pack. 1st one i wount buy.But i wount quit.No other game have given more content for free that i have played.you should try x3 gold an save 15 a month.
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I recently earned my 57 month veteran reward badge. That means that I weas subscribed to City of Heroes for nearly five years. I love City of Heroes. I love being able to fly around, or jump really high, I love the different powers, the numerous amounts of costume sets, how I can make nearly any character I can imagine in the costume creator. The new Going Rogue expansion was awesome. But I cannot, in good conscience, give Paragon Studios or NCSoft a single cent more of my money. As of today, these guys have begun to reach Star Trek Online/Cryptic Studios level of pathetic by selling a pack of emotes. So, I've cancelled my subscription and I'll put a huge "DO NOT BUY" stamp on the game. I recommend that everyone avoids this stinker.
Stop whining .... pathetic!!! Upset over some silly emotes in the cash shop. Gimme a break! You're not 10 years old. This is the best mmo going right now and your 57 months subbing only proves that.
OK then, have fun paying for every new costume piece, every new emote, maybe one day you'll have fun paying for mission arcs, power sets, etc.
I'm simply not willing to support a gaming company that crosses a certain line of greed. I saw an IP I loved, Star Trek, get turned into "Lets Rip Off Star Trek Fans Online!" and now I'm watching City of Heroes turned into "City of Paid Content!"
You may think I'm whining, but companies won't listen to us that microtransactions in a game where we pay a monthly subscription if we keep giving them money. You may be fine with getting nickel and dimed, but I'm not.
I just think you're overreacting. You've played the hell out of CoX. I've only been in game for a month but it's the most fun I've ever had in an mmo and I wish I had started playing when you did. Personally I don't mind dropping $5 on the jetpack as it makes life easier for levels 1 to 13. When you start seeing all those things you mentioned showing up in the cash shop then you can start to worry. All games are entitled to make some extra dough with a cash shop, it just depends on how it's done. You know you love playing the game just like the rest of us CoX fans so JUST RELAX, take a deep breath... and go roll an alt!
thank you!!! I loved CoH but left when the player base fell. It's time for this game to go F2P or just stop all together. Everyone play DC so we can have fun with Super Powers again!
I guarantee you there are more people playing now then when you left. Log in and see the red and yellow dots for yourself.
I recently earned my 57 month veteran reward badge. That means that I weas subscribed to City of Heroes for nearly five years.
I love City of Heroes. I love being able to fly around, or jump really high, I love the different powers, the numerous amounts of costume sets, how I can make nearly any character I can imagine in the costume creator. The new Going Rogue expansion was awesome.
But I cannot, in good conscience, give Paragon Studios or NCSoft a single cent more of my money.
As of today, these guys have begun to reach Star Trek Online/Cryptic Studios level of pathetic by selling a pack of emotes.
So, I've cancelled my subscription and I'll put a huge "DO NOT BUY" stamp on the game. I recommend that everyone avoids this stinker.
Well, the 57 month badge doesn't necessarily reflect subscription time purchased -- that includes free referral time as well. But we'll give you the benefit of the doubt. ( ' : Riddle me this though: what's the diffrence between an emote pack and a costume pack like the the wedding one (besides 2 dollars, for the comedians out there)? Both are fluff that you can opt into with a purchase. Or, are you just reallly annoyed that you can't get the cool soccer ball bounce emote for free since you see the NPCs doing it? ( ' ;
I feel this is partially your own fault for paying for a 'pack' of stuff before. If you were against micro-transactions like this in games, you shouldn't have encouraged it by buying one from them in the first place. Seeing their success would only encourage a company to make more things to sell.
A cosmetic pack isn't a huge deal, still it should be part of a free update. Many players fear that pretty soon every update is going to require players to pay for them and not just for this game, but many other online games as well. True, it's not required that you buy the DLC or the emotes to play the game, but if it's not part of a full-fledged expansion, then it should be free, in my humble opinion.
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First off I do want to clarify I have every booster pack CoH has come out with and I am a 75+ month vet. Now, that being said, I have to kind of agree with the OP on this one. Every Booster pack up until this one you actually got something for your money, a buff here, a movement increase there, a special morphing concept with a costume change, but not this one. So it was somewhat easy to justify an extra $8 here or there since it actually enhanced my game play and enjoyment. But well, this one is almost the same price, nothing but fluff, and somethign that was supposed ot be included in the GR expansion.
I'm not going to stop playing over this though, but I'm not exactly happy with this particular cash shop item. In the past these types of things used to be part of the issue updates, what next?
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I recently earned my 57 month veteran reward badge. That means that I weas subscribed to City of Heroes for nearly five years.
I love City of Heroes. I love being able to fly around, or jump really high, I love the different powers, the numerous amounts of costume sets, how I can make nearly any character I can imagine in the costume creator. The new Going Rogue expansion was awesome.
But I cannot, in good conscience, give Paragon Studios or NCSoft a single cent more of my money.
As of today, these guys have begun to reach Star Trek Online/Cryptic Studios level of pathetic by selling a pack of emotes.
So, I've cancelled my subscription and I'll put a huge "DO NOT BUY" stamp on the game. I recommend that everyone avoids this stinker.
Luckily for you, DC Universe is shaping up very nicely.
You probably would resub and not miss much in the way of character creation and gameplay.
That it is.
Putting stuff in a C-Shop thats not game breaking,should not be a big deal..really. I do get the iritation though in the fact that most mmos are following in line with the c-shop trend.
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Although I am not playing CoH, I think that declaring another crusade on a mmo game is a little ....
IMHO, OP was looking for a excuse to leave CoH for Eve. I know it is hard since by OP's signature OP has invested a lot of time in CoH but it is better to be honest with yourself. I don't like Eve, I couldn't bear more than a couple days on the trial. I heared they have a subterfuge mechanism to change real money for ingame money, arguable good or bad (no need to discuss it here). However, Eve is still a game that is great for a lot of people, so nothing wrong with playing it.
You got some magic tarot cards or something?
Seems pretty weird to know why someone does something without even knowing that person, and in the process completely negating his own valid reason.
The reason he left was explained in the op, why is it so hard to believe what he posted?
It may not be valid in your book, but as shown by a couple of replies, it is valid for other people as well.
It is an opinion about OP's opinion and in no way where intended to offend or dimining him. The topic is OPs leaving because the fiesta pack not the fiesta pack itself, so I am arguing that it might be another reason for him to leave. if OP wanted to restrict the discussion to the fiesta pack he should has saved the part of quitting and going to Eve, . By OP's post over the whole forum he was a strong defender of CoH, by his signature a dedicated player, so my hypothesis is not out of the reign of possibilities since it is common than people leaving something that they were attached for long time, look for one event or excuse to do so.
To each their own, but I do find that selling Emotes is pretty silly when most games incorporate them for free. Frankly I found the game too repetitive.
What I do find depressing lately is the fact that when a player comes on here and provides their reason as to why they are leaving a game, their reason gets attacked unfairly. There are many breaking points for games. For me, I could have the best game in my hands known to mankind and would quit if there were e lack of weapons or lack of uniqueness. After that I have to be able to swim and jump. Those two are essential to me, I don't know why, but it really bothers me when a developer decides to eliminate jumping. Then physics can bother me and the environment.
Easy to see, there are PLENTY of reasons that games can just be unplayable, either due to frustration or a silly idea by the developer to sell what should be free by basic standards. Trying to squeeze every last bit of money from a subscriber is just business, I don't like it either. This is a subscriber, not a F2P-er, you are getting their money regardless.
I agree with the OP, if this is the straw that broke the camels back, then so be it. Make a stand and quit, Minus $15 or so to them isn't much, but you know, sometimes it just feels good to do whats right.
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The whole idea of having to pay 15$ a month to finance the developement of these ingame items is fine by me....BUT having to pay twice for some emotes (or whatever for that matter) is just greedy......i will never have a part of that.
Good for you Xondar to let your money do the talking......that seems to be the only language they know these days.
People who buy these "packs" from these shops are asking for it.......if you keep buying, they will generate even more silly items for you to buy.
if you pay a monthly fee then you should get the ingame items for free (you already payd for the developement of them)
sloeber out.
not sure you read all the posts he admits to buying other (fluff) packs from their store. sooo..
i'm still at a loss at why THIS one pack was the line they crossed for you to quit after 5 years and you say you still love the game? i'm like..seriously what? i'm not trying to be a tool it just buggs the crap out of me for some reason, it just makes no sense at all. you're saying they're getting greedy but they've already been selling cash shop items for how many years and you even bought some of them. i could see if this was the very first item they added to a cash shop and for you to take a stand but it just doesn't make sense this late in the game.i mean i could deffinitly see if it was a cash shop only power set or cash shop only "get around power" (sorry forget what those are called atm) then hell yeah i'd quit too...but its just more fluff crap that didn't bother you enough to quit before.
i'm on the side of the people dead set against cash shops in a P2P game tho, double dipping is BS.
What I am wondering is, if this is a precautionary step to gain some revenue before a major competitor hits the market (DCU). Which so far seems to be offering a little more than COH did on the game-play front.
It seems odd they would wait until this late in the game to change things up and go such a route. Still, whether it's due to the trend in this industry or foreseeable losses, this goes to soldify the opinion that this trend in the industry is not slowing down any time soon.
Personally I don't mind micro-transactions as long as they aren't handing out an advantage. Though I'd never support the idea by giving money toward it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
No, I'm not looking for an excuse for anything. I can swing two monthly subscriptions if I want to (it's not like I have to save my allowance or something.) I'm just sick and tired of the video game industry as a whole nickel-and-diming gamers. It's getting to be really pathetic. I have so much invested in CoH to just walk away, and it isn't a decision I take lightly (my main badge hunting character has over 550 badges, and still hasn't switched to villain to get the villain badges.)
I don't even think I'll play EVE yet (I'm still waiting for Incarna,) but I will consider myself a free agent. I might try out trials and stuff and see what I like.
I didn't even mention EVE in my original post. I did mention it later as a game where they don't charge people for stupid emote packs and costume packs with less stuff in it than previous packs.
Please don't psychoanalyze me because you're completely wrong.
I hear you, it isn't right. But guess what I've learned? Most people do not care and even If they do, they will not unsub to prove the point. RMT and subs combined are here to stay. If you quit, you will do nothing other than stop playing a game you enjoy, RMT will still thrive. Unfortunately the majortiy of people who do nto care and the amount of people who buy things out of the shops outweigh the small minority of people who may or may not quit.
Chances are, you will stick to your guns and chances are you will resub down the road and deal with it.
Sometimes we agree with each other on forums sometimes not but one thing I can say is I respect a man who stands by his principal no matter how trivial it seems to some people. I refuse to give Funcom money because in my estimation there is something going on with the engine they use and the technical specs being such that when they release mmo's they suck ass are feature incomplete and they have lied on box art. For the first time in my entire mmo gaming time here was a game that alot of my gaming friends would play which is a luxury I never had as most of my friends are not avid gamers like me but still I denied myself that simple joy because in my estimation it is dangerous to send out a signal that you will accept something you find to be unacceptible.
While I know that like others have posted more and more games will begin to sell things in item shops and within five years I think we will have a few mmo's that don't and they will use that as a selling point but hey if your actions help the devs keep in mind how they impliment these changes I'm all for it.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
It now turns out that the dance emotes included in the pack (the only unique emotes, the rest are in the game already) were included in the closed beta for Going Rogue, but then they were removed. Further, there are rumours that Positron assured people that the dance emotes would be included in Going Rogue.
Seems NCSoft/Paragon have been attending lectures at Cryptic Studios on how to best nickel and dime people.
thank you!!! I loved CoH but left when the player base fell. It's time for this game to go F2P or just stop all together. Everyone play DC so we can have fun with Super Powers again!
Stop whining .... pathetic!!! Upset over some silly emotes in the cash shop. Gimme a break! You're not 10 years old. This is the best mmo going right now and your 57 months subbing only proves that.OK then, have fun paying for every new costume piece, every new emote, maybe one day you'll have fun paying for mission arcs, power sets, etc.
I'm simply not willing to support a gaming company that crosses a certain line of greed. I saw an IP I loved, Star Trek, get turned into "Lets Rip Off Star Trek Fans Online!" and now I'm watching City of Heroes turned into "City of Paid Content!"
You may think I'm whining, but companies won't listen to us that microtransactions in a game where we pay a monthly subscription if we keep giving them money. You may be fine with getting nickel and dimed, but I'm not.
Yes Free to Pay or Win, I think the OP is right. It will not take long before people see what is going on and subscription games will continue to flourish.
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See heres the problem with your post. It would urinate off many people who play the game atm. 2 servers at night are in red for population rest yellow so theirs many playing atm.An you quit when others did .Theirs no lemming power set in dc or coh .Thats all you.
To the op great for you .More power to ya .I just got month 39 rewards an i could care less about the emote pack. 1st one i wount buy.But i wount quit.No other game have given more content for free that i have played.you should try x3 gold an save 15 a month.
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Stop whining .... pathetic!!! Upset over some silly emotes in the cash shop. Gimme a break! You're not 10 years old. This is the best mmo going right now and your 57 months subbing only proves that.OK then, have fun paying for every new costume piece, every new emote, maybe one day you'll have fun paying for mission arcs, power sets, etc.
I'm simply not willing to support a gaming company that crosses a certain line of greed. I saw an IP I loved, Star Trek, get turned into "Lets Rip Off Star Trek Fans Online!" and now I'm watching City of Heroes turned into "City of Paid Content!"
You may think I'm whining, but companies won't listen to us that microtransactions in a game where we pay a monthly subscription if we keep giving them money. You may be fine with getting nickel and dimed, but I'm not.
I just think you're overreacting. You've played the hell out of CoX. I've only been in game for a month but it's the most fun I've ever had in an mmo and I wish I had started playing when you did. Personally I don't mind dropping $5 on the jetpack as it makes life easier for levels 1 to 13. When you start seeing all those things you mentioned showing up in the cash shop then you can start to worry. All games are entitled to make some extra dough with a cash shop, it just depends on how it's done. You know you love playing the game just like the rest of us CoX fans so JUST RELAX, take a deep breath... and go roll an alt!
I guarantee you there are more people playing now then when you left. Log in and see the red and yellow dots for yourself.Well, the 57 month badge doesn't necessarily reflect subscription time purchased -- that includes free referral time as well. But we'll give you the benefit of the doubt. ( ' : Riddle me this though: what's the diffrence between an emote pack and a costume pack like the the wedding one (besides 2 dollars, for the comedians out there)? Both are fluff that you can opt into with a purchase. Or, are you just reallly annoyed that you can't get the cool soccer ball bounce emote for free since you see the NPCs doing it? ( ' ;
I feel this is partially your own fault for paying for a 'pack' of stuff before. If you were against micro-transactions like this in games, you shouldn't have encouraged it by buying one from them in the first place. Seeing their success would only encourage a company to make more things to sell.
A cosmetic pack isn't a huge deal, still it should be part of a free update. Many players fear that pretty soon every update is going to require players to pay for them and not just for this game, but many other online games as well. True, it's not required that you buy the DLC or the emotes to play the game, but if it's not part of a full-fledged expansion, then it should be free, in my humble opinion.
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First off I do want to clarify I have every booster pack CoH has come out with and I am a 75+ month vet. Now, that being said, I have to kind of agree with the OP on this one. Every Booster pack up until this one you actually got something for your money, a buff here, a movement increase there, a special morphing concept with a costume change, but not this one. So it was somewhat easy to justify an extra $8 here or there since it actually enhanced my game play and enjoyment. But well, this one is almost the same price, nothing but fluff, and somethign that was supposed ot be included in the GR expansion.
I'm not going to stop playing over this though, but I'm not exactly happy with this particular cash shop item. In the past these types of things used to be part of the issue updates, what next?
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
That it is.
Putting stuff in a C-Shop thats not game breaking,should not be a big deal..really. I do get the iritation though in the fact that most mmos are following in line with the c-shop trend.