You are wasting your time. People here are so vested in their hate or love of any given game that there is no reasoning with them. Luckily MMORPG.com forums don't even closely represent any games community. Just a bunch of angsty over opinionated posters that will never be happy with anything.
While I do agree that neutral sites like this can contain a lot more smoke than fire and more barks than bites, I have to say that in defence of such sites they dont 'moderate negative feedback'
Your argument swings both ways I'm afraid, yes there maybe haters here.. but inversly on the official forums you get 'blind lovers' too
I've not made any love or hate post regarding Final Fantasy, but I am very much aware that Open Beta's are never like what the OP is suggesting. The amount of negative feedback I get from freinds who are in Open Beta are enough to have me concerned, and have me steeering away from any purchase.
Yeah I hear you. The problem is many fans steer clear of sites like this and many game communities see this site as vile, scum, etc. So what you end up with is way more negative than positive. Hell I am probably the only poster here that seems to really love MMO's in general and defends them over time.
Just ask any games community forums what they think of mmorpg.com.
Yeah I hear you. The problem is many fans steer clear of sites like this and many game communities see this site as vile, scum, etc. So what you end up with is way more negative than positive. Hell I am probably the only poster here that seems to really love MMO's in general and defends them over time. Just ask any games community forums what they think of mmorpg.com.
it doesnt matter what ppl think of this site, only thing that matter is u get the truth from this site unlike the real fan site or offical forum where they delete the truth.
And I say it matters not how many non japanese beta games you have tested.
So you have no idea how their open beta will pan out. You're speculating at best based on your tainted experiences.
Umm, Excuse me?
You know nothing of my experience, lol. You dont know how many languages I speak, how many countries i've visited, what articles I've written whats tests I've done, who I know, who my freinds are what they've tested.. Wow, I could really destroy your comments about me.
However, even while not knowing a thing about me, or anyone else on this forum for that matter, you still cant deny that the current OB method that you presume SE are employing is not having a very posative effect. And your wild assumptions about other peoples knowledge makes it even worse. xD
I've been beta testing MMO's for years now and I can honestly say that I've never encounterd an 'OPEN BETA' that wasnt pretty much identical to the release.
If SE are somehow holding back, shutting off area's or using an old, buggy build then it wont help them. Bad reviews spread like wild fire, its a very very bad thing to do! As such is mostly unheard of.
SE May have a different angle, and most people do accept bugs and lag will occur during an OB, but deliberatly sabotaging the content is strange indeed, if true then its clearly having the wrong effect.
And I say it matters not how many non japanese beta games you have tested. You may be use to the practice of western devs but FFXIV is not developed the western way. I bet 99% of the people on this site have NEVER beta tested a japanese mmo before FFXIV. You know why? Becasue FFXI was never beta tested anew for the US. It was released a year before the US PC version was released here.
So you have no idea how their open beta will pan out. You're speculating at best based on your tainted experiences. I say give them the benefit of the doubt. I've never played a MMO that was completely bug free before at released, have you? And as far as bad reviews spelling bad business for SE, has that stop the other 13 versions of FF from coming out? Do you really think that if the US flops they'll packup and stop ALL their mmo servers because of some bad western reviews? Five bucks says you never heard of Famitsu before googling it. It's just a reminder that the world doesn't revolve around success in the U.S. with EVERY endeavor.
Sooooo....since this Japanese game's beta is nearly mirrored of other games that didn't fare well at launch, we shouldn't worry because Japanese are developing it? What great secrets Japan must hold...
By the way, I lived in Japan for 4 years, it's really not that different, just gotta drive on the other side of the car on the other side of the road.
Also, I've heard of Famitsu, I'll take my 5 bucks now.
Just becasue you were stationed in Japan doesn't mean you made an effort to really understand the culture. As so blantantly obvious in your statement Sadeyx. Most military personal (myself included) tend to seek out familiar settings when coping with foreign surroundings.
............oh my bad....you aren't Sadeyx...I guess I'll be keeping my 5 bucks until he shows up.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Just becasue you were stationed in Japan doesn't mean you made an effort to really understand the culture. As so blantantly obvious in your statement Sadeyx. Most military personal (myself included) tend to seek out familiar settings when coping with foreign surroundings.
............oh my bad....you aren't Sadeyx...I guess I'll be keeping my 5 bucks until he shows up.
Don't bother man, it's a pointless endeavor to try and post with sense here. People rage over every release, it's the way of this forum. I find it hilarious TBH, considering most of those I see raging, rage about every release, they've been doing so since I joined this site. So many familar names...
People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients.
BTW, I liked your old sig better , the I hate sandcastles kid was priceless.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
And I say it matters not how many non japanese beta games you have tested.
So you have no idea how their open beta will pan out. You're speculating at best based on your tainted experiences.
Umm, Excuse me?
You know nothing of my experience, lol. You dont know how many languages I speak, how many countries i've visited, what articles I've written whats tests I've done, who I know, who my freinds are what they've tested.. Wow, I could really destroy your comments about me.
However, even while not knowing a thing about me, or anyone else on this forum for that matter, you still cant deny that the current OB method that you presume SE are employing is not having a very posative effect. And your wild assumptions about other peoples knowledge makes it even worse. xD
Who said I knew anything about your experiences? I said they were tainted. Meaning that you didn't approach this issue in a non-objective manner. You're using your past experiences to pass judgement on something most of us have experienced for the first time. What the hell does knowing multiple languages have to do with this? People who know multiple languages cannot be biased or something?
And who cares how many friends you have if you don't apporoach the issue while including their influences in your rationale? All I'm saying is there my very will be a diffrent approach to how the japanese do things. Does the way things are panning out now warrant us acting like doomsayers if you don't even know how their process works? I say chill and see how things pan out.......sheesh.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I've been beta testing MMO's for years now and I can honestly say that I've never encounterd an 'OPEN BETA' that wasnt pretty much identical to the release.
If SE are somehow holding back, shutting off area's or using an old, buggy build then it wont help them. Bad reviews spread like wild fire, its a very very bad thing to do! As such is mostly unheard of.
SE May have a different angle, and most people do accept bugs and lag will occur during an OB, but deliberatly sabotaging the content is strange indeed, if true then its clearly having the wrong effect.
And I say it matters not how many non japanese beta games you have tested. You may be use to the practice of western devs but FFXIV is not developed the western way. I bet 99% of the people on this site have NEVER beta tested a japanese mmo before FFXIV. You know why? Becasue FFXI was never beta tested anew for the US. It was released a year before the US PC version was released here.
So you have no idea how their open beta will pan out. You're speculating at best based on your tainted experiences. I say give them the benefit of the doubt. I've never played a MMO that was completely bug free before at released, have you? And as far as bad reviews spelling bad business for SE, has that stop the other 13 versions of FF from coming out? Do you really think that if the US flops they'll packup and stop ALL their mmo servers because of some bad western reviews? Five bucks says you never heard of Famitsu before googling it. It's just a reminder that the world doesn't revolve around success in the U.S. with EVERY endeavor.
Sooooo....since this Japanese game's beta is nearly mirrored of other games that didn't fare well at launch, we shouldn't worry because Japanese are developing it? What great secrets Japan must hold...
By the way, I lived in Japan for 4 years, it's really not that different, just gotta drive on the other side of the car on the other side of the road.
Also, I've heard of Famitsu, I'll take my 5 bucks now.
Just becasue you were stationed in Japan doesn't mean you made an effort to really understand the culture. As so blantantly obvious in your statement Sadeyx. Most military personal (myself included) tend to seek out familiar settings when coping with foreign surroundings.
............oh my bad....you aren't Sadeyx...I guess I'll be keeping my 5 bucks until he shows up.
Right, because you know what I did.
You still haven't explained how it being Japanese makes it's issues magically not a problem.
People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients.
Yea I agree there. Which is why I havnt really got into FF Beta.
I really hope the OP is correct though, I genuinly mean that. IF the Live version is something different and SE have been secretly holding back I will think its awesome.
But for now though I'm just cautious about all new mmo releases, Im still waiting for STO to improve, in the mean time I'm on with lotro f2p XD
The FF series has always had its cult following. That is why SE can get away with the attitude that it has. Couple that with the typical Japanese take on matters, and its little surprise how matters stand. I like the graphics, but from what I've seen, and some of the various elements(all servers in Japan for one) I'm going to give this one a pass. But I wish SE and its fans all the best.
Just becasue you were stationed in Japan doesn't mean you made an effort to really understand the culture. As so blantantly obvious in your statement Sadeyx. Most military personal (myself included) tend to seek out familiar settings when coping with foreign surroundings.
............oh my bad....you aren't Sadeyx...I guess I'll be keeping my 5 bucks until he shows up.
Don't bother man, it's a pointless endeavor to try and post with sense here. People rage over every release, it's the way of this forum. I find it hilarious TBH, considering most of those I see raging, rage about every release, they've been doing so since I joined this site. So many familar names...
People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients.
BTW, I liked your old sig better , the I hate sandcastles kid was priceless.
Yeah it does seem like a waste of time here. Like my buddies from my unit. When we visited another country all they wanted to do is get drunk and get laid. All the while I'm thinking why the hell do I hang out with you numbskulls! We can do that crap back home. Try to absord a different culture once and you may find out that there are several ways to approach the same issues we see back home.
BTW, I like to test out new sigs every once in a while, but i have to admit that kid as grown on me!
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
While you believe you've found out why people having a difficult time enjoying this game, I'm afraid to inform you that you're off base. People know this, but there are many other factors which have put them off. Try reading a great more indepth, or perhaps asking people what they are angry about - rather than posting a response to an assumption.
i'm just angry that it takes 34 years to download cause i don't feel like going to extreme lengths to do some Utorrent crap.
Just becasue you were stationed in Japan doesn't mean you made an effort to really understand the culture. As so blantantly obvious in your statement Sadeyx. Most military personal (myself included) tend to seek out familiar settings when coping with foreign surroundings.
............oh my bad....you aren't Sadeyx...I guess I'll be keeping my 5 bucks until he shows up.
Don't bother man, it's a pointless endeavor to try and post with sense here. People rage over every release, it's the way of this forum. I find it hilarious TBH, considering most of those I see raging, rage about every release, they've been doing so since I joined this site. So many familar names...
People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients.
BTW, I liked your old sig better , the I hate sandcastles kid was priceless.
Yeah it does seem like a waste of time here. Like my buddies from my unit. When we visited another country all they wanted to do is get drunk and get laid. All the while I'm thinking why the hell do I hang out with you numbskulls! We can do that crap back home. Try to absord a different culture once and you may find out that there are several ways to approach the same issues we see back home.
BTW, I like to test out new sigs every once in a while, but i have to admit that kid as grown on me!
People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients.
Yea I agree there. Which is why I havnt really got into FF Beta.
I really hope the OP is correct though, I genuinly mean that. IF the Live version is something different and SE have been secretly holding back I will think its awesome.
But for now though I'm just cautious about all new mmo releases, Im still waiting for STO to improve, in the mean time I'm on with lotro f2p XD
Yep, I stopped playing Beta's quite a while ago, they tend to leave a bad taste in my mouth, ruining the experience completely.
I actually have no plans to play FF at all, I'm not a SE fan. I don't hate them or FF games, they just aren't my cup of tea.
Still on the subject at hand, I find what the OP is saying to be quite possible, I also feel it would make sense. It would be nice for companies to leave surprises to be had post launch. It would actually make perfect sense, considering the best way to keep players, is to offer them experiences they weren't expecting, as well as experiences they haven't played yet.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients.
Yea I agree there. Which is why I havnt really got into FF Beta.
I really hope the OP is correct though, I genuinly mean that. IF the Live version is something different and SE have been secretly holding back I will think its awesome.
But for now though I'm just cautious about all new mmo releases, Im still waiting for STO to improve, in the mean time I'm on with lotro f2p XD
Yep, I stopped playing Beta's quite a while ago, they tend to leave a bad taste in my mouth, ruining the experience completely.
I actually have no plans to play FF at all, I'm not a SE fan. I don't hate them or FF games, they just aren't my cup of tea.
Still on the subject at hand, I find what the OP is saying to be quite possible, I also feel it would make sense. It would be nice for companies to leave surprises to be had post launch. It would actually make perfect sense, considering the best way to keep players, is to offer them experiences they weren't expecting, as well as experiences they haven't played yet.
This is most certainly what they are doing. Only the first story quest is available.
I've been beta testing MMO's for years now and I can honestly say that I've never encounterd an 'OPEN BETA' that wasnt pretty much identical to the release.
If SE are somehow holding back, shutting off area's or using an old, buggy build then it wont help them. Bad reviews spread like wild fire, its a very very bad thing to do! As such is mostly unheard of.
SE May have a different angle, and most people do accept bugs and lag will occur during an OB, but deliberatly sabotaging the content is strange indeed, if true then its clearly having the wrong effect.
And I say it matters not how many non japanese beta games you have tested. You may be use to the practice of western devs but FFXIV is not developed the western way. I bet 99% of the people on this site have NEVER beta tested a japanese mmo before FFXIV. You know why? Becasue FFXI was never beta tested anew for the US. It was released a year before the US PC version was released here.
So you have no idea how their open beta will pan out. You're speculating at best based on your tainted experiences. I say give them the benefit of the doubt. I've never played a MMO that was completely bug free before at released, have you? And as far as bad reviews spelling bad business for SE, has that stop the other 13 versions of FF from coming out? Do you really think that if the US flops they'll packup and stop ALL their mmo servers because of some bad western reviews? Five bucks says you never heard of Famitsu before googling it. It's just a reminder that the world doesn't revolve around success in the U.S. with EVERY endeavor.
Sooooo....since this Japanese game's beta is nearly mirrored of other games that didn't fare well at launch, we shouldn't worry because Japanese are developing it? What great secrets Japan must hold...
By the way, I lived in Japan for 4 years, it's really not that different, just gotta drive on the other side of the car on the other side of the road.
Also, I've heard of Famitsu, I'll take my 5 bucks now.
Just becasue you were stationed in Japan doesn't mean you made an effort to really understand the culture. As so blantantly obvious in your statement Sadeyx. Most military personal (myself included) tend to seek out familiar settings when coping with foreign surroundings.
............oh my bad....you aren't Sadeyx...I guess I'll be keeping my 5 bucks until he shows up.
Right, because you know what I did.
You still haven't explained how it being Japanese makes it's issues magically not a problem.
I never said I knew what you did. You shot yourself in the foot with that "It's all the same, they just drive on the left!" bs. I was merely trying to attach a reasonable explaination as to why you may have came to this faulty conclusion. Point is you took an expereince you had and narrowed it down to a harsh, simplistic statement.
Kinda like how you and the rest of these doomsayers are doing with the handling this current issue. I never said that everything will magically disappear (I never believe in magic outside of games). I said pass judgement when judgement is due.....don't be so quick to clump all developers in the same boat. And don't think that all mmos are made for all gamers.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I have so much I feel like saying about this game but I just consider it a lost cause now and personally think it will be classed as one of the major 'Western' MMO failures of gaming history. Over in asia they are going to play FFXIV til they drop...
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Yep, I stopped playing Beta's quite a while ago, they tend to leave a bad taste in my mouth, ruining the experience completely.
I actually have no plans to play FF at all, I'm not a SE fan. I don't hate them or FF games, they just aren't my cup of tea.
Still on the subject at hand, I find what the OP is saying to be quite possible, I also feel it would make sense. It would be nice for companies to leave surprises to be had post launch. It would actually make perfect sense, considering the best way to keep players, is to offer them experiences they weren't expecting, as well as experiences they haven't played yet.
This is most certainly what they are doing. Only the first story quest is available.
AoC did this as well.
Yeah, AOC did that, but they also screwed up in doing it, by releasing a poorly optimized client. Which seems to be the case with FF as well. Unless of course they do have something up their sleeves, such as a fully optimized launch build. Which would be unlikely, I'd agree with anyone carrying such an opinion.
Still, at this point we as gamers should expect this, the inevitable bugged launch. Sure that raises the question should we accept it? Which I'd answer with a no, not if you're not willing to anyway. The only solution is to stop supporting it, if you feel you can't accept it. In other words people should stop with the pre-ordering.
Even with that considered we should know by now, raging doesn't fix this issue. If it did, companies would have changed their launch standards by now. The only thing raging accomplishes is polarizing forum communities. As well as annoying posters like myself.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I am in the camp of never doing a beta unless its an IP I have strong feeling about and think that I can in some way contribute to it to make it successful. Most games I wait till several months after launch and try their free trial whenever it comes out cause I hate throwing more money away then I have to. That way its the whole try before you buy but the product is at least hopefully in some stage of completeness not like a beta where you are at the devs mercy on what you get. So if and when FFXIV has a free trial I will try it if I have a better rig then I have now and will make a more educated decision based on my experience with the product. But I will say I really think SE could have handled the whole process a bit better and it would have at least cut down on the fuel for the detractors out there.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
They only thing I have a problem with is the client. This thing is the worst ****ing crap I have ever had to deal with. There is no end to how bad it is. Sometimes I feel like buying this game just to burn it lol, but I wont. Burn it that is. I'm hope they fix this soon. If not I'll just wait for something else, or try it in 5 months.
How can I enjoy a game that doesn't let me even play........
Don't bother man, it's a pointless endeavor to try and post with sense here. People rage over every release, it's the way of this forum. I find it hilarious TBH, considering most of those I see raging, rage about every release, they've been doing so since I joined this site. So many familar names...
People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients.
BTW, I liked your old sig better , the I hate sandcastles kid was priceless.
Yeah it does seem like a waste of time here. Like my buddies from my unit. When we visited another country all they wanted to do is get drunk and get laid. All the while I'm thinking why the hell do I hang out with you numbskulls! We can do that crap back home. Try to absord a different culture once and you may find out that there are several ways to approach the same issues we see back home.
BTW, I like to test out new sigs every once in a while, but i have to admit that kid as grown on me!
HAHA, I can definitely relate to that. Not on a military level of course, but as a member of many bands over the years. Everytime we visited some place new, that is the exact mentaility most of my band-mates have had. Rather than take in sights and learn a bit about a new place, they're worried about getting toasted and laid, and nothing else. Most of the time not even putting on a good performance haha.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Originally posted by Malickie Originally posted by Ramonski7
Just becasue you were stationed in Japan doesn't mean you made an effort to really understand the culture. As so blantantly obvious in your statement Sadeyx. Most military personal (myself included) tend to seek out familiar settings when coping with foreign surroundings. ............oh my bad....you aren't Sadeyx...I guess I'll be keeping my 5 bucks until he shows up. Don't bother man, it's a pointless endeavor to try and post with sense here. People rage over every release, it's the way of this forum. I find it hilarious TBH, considering most of those I see raging, rage about every release, they've been doing so since I joined this site. So many familar names... People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients. BTW, I liked your old sig better , the I hate sandcastles kid was priceless. It is just an often read story: -It is Closed Beta -It is Open Beta -It is release -Game is only 1 week old -Game is only 1 month old And after 1 month the starter zones are mostly barren, because the wave of players are either in advanced levels or did not resubscribe
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While I do agree that neutral sites like this can contain a lot more smoke than fire and more barks than bites, I have to say that in defence of such sites they dont 'moderate negative feedback'
Your argument swings both ways I'm afraid, yes there maybe haters here.. but inversly on the official forums you get 'blind lovers' too
I've not made any love or hate post regarding Final Fantasy, but I am very much aware that Open Beta's are never like what the OP is suggesting. The amount of negative feedback I get from freinds who are in Open Beta are enough to have me concerned, and have me steeering away from any purchase.
Yeah I hear you. The problem is many fans steer clear of sites like this and many game communities see this site as vile, scum, etc. So what you end up with is way more negative than positive. Hell I am probably the only poster here that seems to really love MMO's in general and defends them over time.
Just ask any games community forums what they think of mmorpg.com.
I am an eternal fanbot of almost every AAA mmorpg heading towards release. =D
it doesnt matter what ppl think of this site, only thing that matter is u get the truth from this site unlike the real fan site or offical forum where they delete the truth.Umm, Excuse me?
You know nothing of my experience, lol. You dont know how many languages I speak, how many countries i've visited, what articles I've written whats tests I've done, who I know, who my freinds are what they've tested.. Wow, I could really destroy your comments about me.
However, even while not knowing a thing about me, or anyone else on this forum for that matter, you still cant deny that the current OB method that you presume SE are employing is not having a very posative effect. And your wild assumptions about other peoples knowledge makes it even worse. xD
Just becasue you were stationed in Japan doesn't mean you made an effort to really understand the culture. As so blantantly obvious in your statement Sadeyx. Most military personal (myself included) tend to seek out familiar settings when coping with foreign surroundings.
............oh my bad....you aren't Sadeyx...I guess I'll be keeping my 5 bucks until he shows up.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I'm a changeling.
AAA game announced: "OMG! OMG! EPIC! EPIC!"
More features/deatils fleshed out "Well, it still looks better than everything else"
Towards end of beta "DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!"
Don't bother man, it's a pointless endeavor to try and post with sense here. People rage over every release, it's the way of this forum. I find it hilarious TBH, considering most of those I see raging, rage about every release, they've been doing so since I joined this site. So many familar names...
People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients.
BTW, I liked your old sig better
, the I hate sandcastles kid was priceless.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Who said I knew anything about your experiences? I said they were tainted. Meaning that you didn't approach this issue in a non-objective manner. You're using your past experiences to pass judgement on something most of us have experienced for the first time. What the hell does knowing multiple languages have to do with this? People who know multiple languages cannot be biased or something?
And who cares how many friends you have if you don't apporoach the issue while including their influences in your rationale? All I'm saying is there my very will be a diffrent approach to how the japanese do things. Does the way things are panning out now warrant us acting like doomsayers if you don't even know how their process works? I say chill and see how things pan out.......sheesh.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
Right, because you know what I did.
You still haven't explained how it being Japanese makes it's issues magically not a problem.
Yea I agree there. Which is why I havnt really got into FF Beta.
I really hope the OP is correct though, I genuinly mean that. IF the Live version is something different and SE have been secretly holding back I will think its awesome.
But for now though I'm just cautious about all new mmo releases, Im still waiting for STO to improve, in the mean time I'm on with lotro f2p XD
The FF series has always had its cult following. That is why SE can get away with the attitude that it has. Couple that with the typical Japanese take on matters, and its little surprise how matters stand. I like the graphics, but from what I've seen, and some of the various elements(all servers in Japan for one) I'm going to give this one a pass. But I wish SE and its fans all the best.
Yeah it does seem like a waste of time here. Like my buddies from my unit. When we visited another country all they wanted to do is get drunk and get laid. All the while I'm thinking why the hell do I hang out with you numbskulls! We can do that crap back home. Try to absord a different culture once and you may find out that there are several ways to approach the same issues we see back home.
BTW, I like to test out new sigs every once in a while, but i have to admit that kid as grown on me!
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
i'm just angry that it takes 34 years to download cause i don't feel like going to extreme lengths to do some Utorrent crap.
What'd ya expect from Army MPs?
Yep, I stopped playing Beta's quite a while ago, they tend to leave a bad taste in my mouth, ruining the experience completely.
I actually have no plans to play FF at all, I'm not a SE fan. I don't hate them or FF games, they just aren't my cup of tea.
Still on the subject at hand, I find what the OP is saying to be quite possible, I also feel it would make sense. It would be nice for companies to leave surprises to be had post launch. It would actually make perfect sense, considering the best way to keep players, is to offer them experiences they weren't expecting, as well as experiences they haven't played yet.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This is most certainly what they are doing. Only the first story quest is available.
AoC did this as well.
I never said I knew what you did. You shot yourself in the foot with that "It's all the same, they just drive on the left!" bs. I was merely trying to attach a reasonable explaination as to why you may have came to this faulty conclusion. Point is you took an expereince you had and narrowed it down to a harsh, simplistic statement.
Kinda like how you and the rest of these doomsayers are doing with the handling this current issue. I never said that everything will magically disappear (I never believe in magic outside of games). I said pass judgement when judgement is due.....don't be so quick to clump all developers in the same boat. And don't think that all mmos are made for all gamers.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I have so much I feel like saying about this game but I just consider it a lost cause now and personally think it will be classed as one of the major 'Western' MMO failures of gaming history. Over in asia they are going to play FFXIV til they drop...
Yeah, AOC did that, but they also screwed up in doing it, by releasing a poorly optimized client. Which seems to be the case with FF as well. Unless of course they do have something up their sleeves, such as a fully optimized launch build. Which would be unlikely, I'd agree with anyone carrying such an opinion.
Still, at this point we as gamers should expect this, the inevitable bugged launch. Sure that raises the question should we accept it? Which I'd answer with a no, not if you're not willing to anyway. The only solution is to stop supporting it, if you feel you can't accept it. In other words people should stop with the pre-ordering.
Even with that considered we should know by now, raging doesn't fix this issue. If it did, companies would have changed their launch standards by now. The only thing raging accomplishes is polarizing forum communities. As well as annoying posters like myself.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I am in the camp of never doing a beta unless its an IP I have strong feeling about and think that I can in some way contribute to it to make it successful. Most games I wait till several months after launch and try their free trial whenever it comes out cause I hate throwing more money away then I have to. That way its the whole try before you buy but the product is at least hopefully in some stage of completeness not like a beta where you are at the devs mercy on what you get. So if and when FFXIV has a free trial I will try it if I have a better rig then I have now and will make a more educated decision based on my experience with the product. But I will say I really think SE could have handled the whole process a bit better and it would have at least cut down on the fuel for the detractors out there.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
Groucho Marx
They only thing I have a problem with is the client. This thing is the worst ****ing crap I have ever had to deal with. There is no end to how bad it is. Sometimes I feel like buying this game just to burn it lol, but I wont. Burn it that is. I'm hope they fix this soon. If not I'll just wait for something else, or try it in 5 months.
How can I enjoy a game that doesn't let me even play........
HAHA, I can definitely relate to that. Not on a military level of course, but as a member of many bands over the years. Everytime we visited some place new, that is the exact mentaility most of my band-mates have had. Rather than take in sights and learn a bit about a new place, they're worried about getting toasted and laid, and nothing else. Most of the time not even putting on a good performance haha.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I have no problem with new games at all, but ffs let me customize my control as I see fit.
If anyone finds the fast key for "journal" let me know btw.
............oh my bad....you aren't Sadeyx...I guess I'll be keeping my 5 bucks until he shows up.
Don't bother man, it's a pointless endeavor to try and post with sense here. People rage over every release, it's the way of this forum. I find it hilarious TBH, considering most of those I see raging, rage about every release, they've been doing so since I joined this site. So many familar names...
People just can't accept that MMO's have issues, sometimes those issues stick around longer than we'd like. My policy is, if you can't get over these issues, stop playing OB's and launch clients.
BTW, I liked your old sig better
It is just an often read story:
-It is Closed Beta
-It is Open Beta
-It is release
-Game is only 1 week old
-Game is only 1 month old
And after 1 month the starter zones are mostly barren, because the wave of players are either in advanced levels or did not resubscribe