No offense, but I think you're missing his point. No where in his post did I see him criticizing the game itself for any of the reasons you're defending. He's just pointing out the plethora of UI issues and the overall lack of polish with how certain systems in the game (and even out, ie. faulty patcher) are currently working/not working properly.
In other words, it's in similar shape to other mmos that have been launched prematurely in the past and he's warning true fans to speak out (in one sense, with their money) in a last ditch attempt to keep the game from suffering a half-assed launch. I, for one, agree with him. It just doesn't seem ready at this point.
A successful launch is pretty much imperative for any new mmo in the industry as it stands today. People have way more options now than they did when FFXI was released, so aside from the hardcore FF fans who will pretty much play no matter the state, many gamers won't be so forgiving. As if the tons of UI complaints and pre-order cancellation threads aren't any kind of indicator of this already...
No offense taken and I didn't miss his point. I may have been a little overly sensitive though. There have been a lot of emotions about this game the last few days and a couple of things triggered some of that again. To me, the last paragraph implied that everyone should feel there were serious problems with the game and that therefore people who were defending weren't being honest about it. With all due respect, that is not universally accepted to be true and assuming it is would be very dismissive of alternate views.
I have had no problems with the UI except that it is different from other MMOs and takes getting used to. Most people that I have talked to about the game outside of this forum found it fairly easy to learn once they downloaded the keyboard schematic. I've found the patcher to be very quick never taking more than a few minutes except for two times it hung at 94% and then I canceled after ten minutes and restarted and it completed a couple minutes later. I also disagree about the lack of polish and suspect we would disagree about specific systems in the game "currently working/not working properly". Many complaints I've heard before seem to me that people are assuming that if a system isn't working they way they want it to it isn't working 'properly'. Having personally not experienced any serious problems and with patches based on the closed beta coming every single day so far I see absolutely no legitimate reason for the launch to be delayed.
If you state that serious issues exist people who disagree may counter with their disagreements. But in this case I may have mistakenly believed the OP was attacking anyone who disagreed or defended the game and if so I apologize.
Thansk for taking another look at what I was saying. I want this game to succeed, mostly because it is a bit of a genre bender and if one of the genre benders succeed, others may follow and might allow us to get away from the formula that is stifling the MMO world at large.
I know opinions will differ but for the average player I believe the launcher, the UI for PC users, the mouse lag, and the lack of guidance need to be addressed prior to release or the game might suffer backlash. These days you can't count on a big name or hot title to make it a hit if it has some possibly game breaking issues at launch. Ala Warhammer online.
Heck, I did not spend hours doing work arounds to get the client installed and hours learning the game because I hate it. The game looks fantastic and the job and quest mechanics are unique and fun. I think the quest mechanics need some tweaking and you need to be able to repeat some of those you failed at sooner than you can but it is different and cool.
What I don't want is a repeat of WAR, AOC, Vanguard, Tabula Rasa, etc due to launch issues that make a unique title suffer thus stopping investers from putting money behind creative MMO ideas.
If this game nose dives the standard will rule and we will have same ol, same ol, which none of us want. If we burry our heads and not speak up (heck it is an open "beta test" right?) then it WILL NOT get better.
I expect console players will try this because A) it is offered onthe PS3, and it is an FF title but it is not clear that it plays best on a gamepad and lots of people don't own a gamepad for thier PC. I do, but for some reason the one I have won't work with this game at all.
SE may not listen but just maybe the might but if we say "we can live with the issues" then we are doing the game a diservice.
I like how people are pushing so hard to get others to cancel their preorders, its like you have a bet against the game succeeding.
Its not enough that you dont like the game, you need to pull out the banner and make sure you push over anyone who is on the fence.
I am really on the fence about this game. This site has kind of put me on the fence. All the negativity, I am thinking it will be a waste of money. Than again my brother's friend who is in beta seems to like it.
I have been going over to my brothers house because he had a beta invite key, but every time I go over and call he is like "it is still downloading" ... I'm like "dude. it has been downloading for almost a week now"
Not sure if I really want to waste my money on this game... these guys may very well sway my decission.
I have read through most of the posts here on this game. I have been playing the beta. Fan or no, answer this honestly. In its current state, would you feel good about recommending this to a friend as a purchase for pre-release or to buy on launch day?
I know I would not feel good about that. Especially if my friend was a novice to MMOs or computer gaming at all.
I am not saying it won't be a GREAT game but lets face it. Only a few weeks from launch and to me, it is in no better state than Vanguard or AOC at the time of launch for those games.
I was in the beta for both and even though there were serious issues pre-launch or in open beta at least you could easily download the fricken client and the mouse worked correctly.
Yeah, yeah, there are those select few who have had a blessed miracle cast upon them and the launcher works fine and the mouse works fine and there was no learning curve either.
As an FF fan or serious MMO vet you might "muscle" through it and wait it out till after release patches that will inevitably fix the issues but as it stands right now I cannot think of telling someone, go buy this game now, can you?
I am not trolling either. it is fair question as I see many versions of posters explaining how to do something or why it is OK that things are not working. Then I see others so frustrated it hurts. The "Its beta" argument goes out the window when some very basic functions are not working well and the UI/ gameplay is so very hard to get for even some vet MMO players.
Bottom line is if you answer with a no, which I assume most would, and you want this game to succeed, you need to stop making excuses for SE and let them know with the same passion you defend the game with, what it is they need to fix.
In anycase, you've kind of answered your own question. Most companies do not do their final work until that game's launch date. Beta is to find bugs and of course fix those bugs that hender the game. Pre-ordering a game is a way of showing support for something you like wether it's perfect or not. It sounds like you're better off playing a game like World of Warcraft with it's so called perfect polish.(laughs). I have and will always support a game I like just like others do. Do yourself a favor instead of making posts like these; stop playing the game if it disappoints you so much!
Also it is best to wait until they offer the free trial so now you're not even paying for the box and most of the significant launch bugs should be fixed.
No. It goes from zero to cockblock faster than any game ever, has a horrible UI, they won’t enable hardware mouse for some reason, even though it just needs to be set to true. There is no content in the game other than 8 daily mob kill quests that are on a 48 hour timer. Crafting is ok, but ill be dammed if ill play a game in 2010 that will not even tell you the recipes you already know. You have to re-equip every item of gear, abilities, traits and talents if you switch classes “Instantly” (what a joke). A game in 2010 that requires macros to remove or overcome horrible horrible time wasting GUI’s or lack or a sensible class switching system is just plain clownshoes.
This is not a hardcore game; this is a badly designed grind fest where the fun stops as soon as you leave the city gate.
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I wouldn't recommend a pre-order of this game, there just isn't enough guidance in the game as of right now. Seems like almost everything i've done on open beta i've had to sift through a bunch of fan websites to figure out what to do.
Honestly learning how to start crafting was frustrating enough. I must say also I can't tell if its just my rig that slows down the game, but it just seems slow. I'm not talking about the combat as I was expecting it from a FF game. But when you start crafting there are load times for each step through it, it just got annoying.
Also being brutally honest, if I had a conversation with one of my friends about this game it would go like this.
me "So the game is ok, nothing super special"
them " oh yeah? whats the pvp like?"
me "uh theres no pvp in it..."
them "... why are you playing it??!!"
I honestly don't mind a pve game, as I generally like it more than pvp (I especially enjoy crafting). I just don't see myself playing a game for like 1+ years with no pvp at all and just constantly chasing that carrot on a stick.
the load time sis the ui issueits better from phase 3 but still needs work
A game in 2010 that requires macros to remove or overcome horrible horrible time wasting GUI’s or lack or a sensible class switching system is just plain clownshoes.
Quote of the week, thanks Mrbloodworth, from your post alone I would steer clear if I hadn't already decided to do so.
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Assuming that they are holding back on content until release, as is normal for SE, It is a good game that is unfortunately hampered by the interface. Those who are used to these kinds of games, especially FF games will be fine. But others will have to be willing to relearn how to interact with an mmo. I cannot recommend playing it at all without first trying it out for several days at the least. SE will have to release a free trial or they are going to get a lot of pissed off consumers returning opened boxes and raising holy hell.
Simply put. you have to WANT to get past the odd interface. If you can do that, it is a pretty good game. Good story. Good immersion. Excellent visuals and audio.
This assumes, of course that it will get more content and at least some tutorial features.
But don't buy it without trying it unless you are familiar with FFXI.
After several dissapointments with pre-orders, I would say no anyway... even to something like WOW2, or EQ3.. something that is pretty much a guaranteed safe bet.
Before the whole MMO Malarky really hit it off, I would always read reviews in trusted magazines that employed authors that had similar tastes and opinions in games to me. (PC gamer, C+VG and PC Format generally had differing opinions... I sat in the PC Format camp!)
With FFXIV or indeed any other game that is still truly testing, and not just giving a trial period in its open beta, it is really too late in the day to make any drastic sweeping changes to improve the overall feel and experience of a game.
With so few days to go before launch, I can only see the Pre-order people as "Extended Beta" players, Release day players as "Extended Extended Beta" players, and finally those that join 6 months down the line might get a taste of the game as it should be.
Personally I am enjoying the beta up to a point, but couldnt reccomend a product that requires a developer from a rival company to regularly release patches to activate Hardware mouse in a product. That is just poor...
You never know though... AOC had a miracle patch a few days before release than increased frame rate by about 200% in Tortage outside areas, so maybe SE can do the same and implement everything with some serious tweakage!
Wait until well after release. It's the smart way to do business.
Serious death penalties makes every close call an adrenaline rush, and every minor achievement a major victory. This alternative rule-set should be in all MMORPGs.
No. It goes from zero to cockblock faster than any game ever, has a horrible UI, they won’t enable hardware mouse for some reason, even though it just needs to be set to true. There is no content in the game other than 8 daily mob kill quests that are on a 48 hour timer. Crafting is ok, but ill be dammed if ill play a game in 2010 that will not even tell you the recipes you already know. You have to re-equip every item of gear, abilities, traits and talents if you switch classes “Instantly” (what a joke). A game in 2010 that requires macros to remove or overcome horrible horrible time wasting GUI’s or lack or a sensible class switching system is just plain clownshoes.
This is not a hardcore game; this is a badly designed grind fest where the fun stops as soon as you leave the city gate.
This.
Serious death penalties makes every close call an adrenaline rush, and every minor achievement a major victory. This alternative rule-set should be in all MMORPGs.
I wouldn't recommand pre-order of FFXIV unless I think the person in question is willing to follow the game for a long period of time and "grow" with the world along with SE. OR if the player has clearly enjoyed his experienced with the game but is, for some odd reasons, hesistant to buy the game.
Good or not (that is an opinion), this game is too different (that is a fact), in a weird way as expressed by most players and compared to the other RPGs, MMOs and even other FFs; besides, not only different it's too complicated and restrictive in many ways for me to recommend it to anyone that wouldn't know FF already, and preferably FF XI. Even in such a case, I'd recommend testing it (and reading a lot on how it works) before buying it, because F XIV is so 90's that I can't vouch for anyone to like that.
I tend to like it personally. I mean the ideas, the concepts. Story telling's great. But the general making of the game is just disappointing. Square lost it touch, I'm now sadly convinced of that (I liked XII, but XIII and now this... ugh). The UI and the logics behind it (even if it were fast as hell) are an outrage to ergonomics and a psychological disgrace for game(read: entertainment!)-makers.
I have decided not to pre-order. This is coming from someone who played all FFs from IV to XIII (excepted XI), and reached those lv99 characters in all of them, end-game achievements etc (short story: yes, i can grind a Squaresoft game). My initial intention was a CE pre-order. But not this time. This XIV is not a "MMO of good fantasy", it's a "bad fantasy of an MMO ", not on-par with the gaming era we're in now, not delivering by the standards I expect from Square, terribly disappointing from Tanaka but unsurprisingly I guess since the man doesn't even play MMOs to know what products exist out there. FF XIV, even on its own turf of a true descendant of FF XI, is not nearly polished enough in many ways for me to appreciate it--despite state-of-the art graphics and soundtrack.
It pains me because some of my friends who are more "fanboys/girls", I guess, than me, will hop on it. I don't know if they'll stick as much as they did in FF XI, and I hope I'll be able to join the train somewhere in 2011. But there's going to be a lot of work from Square between now and that time, should it ever come, not to change the game systems themselves (kinda like them personally) but to make the game less of a hassle to play and enjoy.
Honestly no, unless someone was a fan of Final Fantasy (especially FFXI) I would not recommend for them to preorder the game. I might recommend it to them several months after release when most of the problems have been ironed out for the PS3 release.
(Even then I'd feel they'd have to be open for something different, and be able to manage using a cumbersome UI, if they had no MMO experience or only WoW as their MMO experience I still probably wouldn't recommend it to them)
I thought about cancelling my preorder in closed beta, but the open beta imrpoved my outlook quite a bit. There are still many things that need fixing, or added fluidity.
As far as recommending it to friends, I warn them about the frustrations they will encounter, and seemingly poor game design decisions. I had one friend who coudln't even get the beta to launch until changing his security settings in internet explorer....
I think the game has terrific potential, and a great game world, but they need to cut down on tedious steps and inrease interface fluidity to make it a truly great game.
I would feel bad if by my recommendation someone pre-orderd this or bought it day one, becouse I know that on the top of the usual mmo birthing pains there would be all the shit design decisions making for a completely miserable first impression. I am sure 6 months after the launch the game will be worth a second look but as it stands right now I would honestly recommend staying away from this game and wait for something else.
Preordering a video game is a gamble. Just wait for the reviews and base your decision on them.
If i followed this train of thought i wouldn't even play video games.
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I enjoyed Half-Life, Dragon Age, and Fallout 3. All of those games got over 90% scores from the majority of quality review publications. I fail to see your point. You play video games just to support game companies for making crappy games?
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Yes I would and have recommended this game to others. The crowd of gamers I play with usually send out one or two to try any new game first, and pass thier recommendations off to everyone else. This game is good, very good actually, one of the best I have seen in years. If your willing to take a couple days to get familiar with the design and UI it becomes a real joy to play. And thankfully, the people I play with are highly intelligent and eager/thirsty for gaming challenges. The prospect of not being spoon fed by this game alone scores points with me and my friends. And we are all looking forward to playing this one for years to come. Two pre-orders for me alone, fifteen more already placed by my friends. And they too are recommending this to others they know as I write this.
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Preordering a video game is a gamble. Just wait for the reviews and base your decision on them.
If i followed this train of thought i wouldn't even play video games.
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I enjoyed Half-Life, Dragon Age, and Fallout 3. All of those games got over 90% scores from the majority of quality review publications. I fail to see your point. You play video games just to give game companies money for making crappy games?
What makes a good game, and what score means a good game is subjective. If we talk about % scores than why not play everything above 50% since thats basically avarage and everything rated higher is above avarge thus pretty good. Whether reviewers actually use their scales to their full extent is another matter.
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Thansk for taking another look at what I was saying. I want this game to succeed, mostly because it is a bit of a genre bender and if one of the genre benders succeed, others may follow and might allow us to get away from the formula that is stifling the MMO world at large.
I know opinions will differ but for the average player I believe the launcher, the UI for PC users, the mouse lag, and the lack of guidance need to be addressed prior to release or the game might suffer backlash. These days you can't count on a big name or hot title to make it a hit if it has some possibly game breaking issues at launch. Ala Warhammer online.
Heck, I did not spend hours doing work arounds to get the client installed and hours learning the game because I hate it. The game looks fantastic and the job and quest mechanics are unique and fun. I think the quest mechanics need some tweaking and you need to be able to repeat some of those you failed at sooner than you can but it is different and cool.
What I don't want is a repeat of WAR, AOC, Vanguard, Tabula Rasa, etc due to launch issues that make a unique title suffer thus stopping investers from putting money behind creative MMO ideas.
If this game nose dives the standard will rule and we will have same ol, same ol, which none of us want. If we burry our heads and not speak up (heck it is an open "beta test" right?) then it WILL NOT get better.
I expect console players will try this because A) it is offered onthe PS3, and
it is an FF title but it is not clear that it plays best on a gamepad and lots of people don't own a gamepad for thier PC. I do, but for some reason the one I have won't work with this game at all.
SE may not listen but just maybe the might but if we say "we can live with the issues" then we are doing the game a diservice.
I am really on the fence about this game. This site has kind of put me on the fence. All the negativity, I am thinking it will be a waste of money. Than again my brother's friend who is in beta seems to like it.
I have been going over to my brothers house because he had a beta invite key, but every time I go over and call he is like "it is still downloading" ... I'm like "dude. it has been downloading for almost a week now"
Not sure if I really want to waste my money on this game... these guys may very well sway my decission.
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Absolutely...
In anycase, you've kind of answered your own question. Most companies do not do their final work until that game's launch date. Beta is to find bugs and of course fix those bugs that hender the game. Pre-ordering a game is a way of showing support for something you like wether it's perfect or not. It sounds like you're better off playing a game like World of Warcraft with it's so called perfect polish.(laughs). I have and will always support a game I like just like others do. Do yourself a favor instead of making posts like these; stop playing the game if it disappoints you so much!
No, I honestly wouldn't recommend it. I personally think the graphics look great, but the game play is awkward and shallow.
Never preorder any MMO ever.
Seriously.
Don't do it.
Also it is best to wait until they offer the free trial so now you're not even paying for the box and most of the significant launch bugs should be fixed.
Preordering a video game is a gamble. Just wait for the reviews and base your decision on them.
Vault-Tec analysts have concluded that the odds of worldwide nuclear armaggeddon this decade are 17,143,762... to 1.
No. It goes from zero to cockblock faster than any game ever, has a horrible UI, they won’t enable hardware mouse for some reason, even though it just needs to be set to true. There is no content in the game other than 8 daily mob kill quests that are on a 48 hour timer. Crafting is ok, but ill be dammed if ill play a game in 2010 that will not even tell you the recipes you already know. You have to re-equip every item of gear, abilities, traits and talents if you switch classes “Instantly” (what a joke). A game in 2010 that requires macros to remove or overcome horrible horrible time wasting GUI’s or lack or a sensible class switching system is just plain clownshoes.
This is not a hardcore game; this is a badly designed grind fest where the fun stops as soon as you leave the city gate.
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26 hr download of the client on my tricked out internet, forget about beta. I will wait for release or a couple weeks after.
What i have found in most sandboxes are discarded toys and cat poop.
the load time sis the ui issueits better from phase 3 but still needs work
If i followed this train of thought i wouldn't even play video games.
Quote of the week, thanks Mrbloodworth, from your post alone I would steer clear if I hadn't already decided to do so.
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Nope. No pre-order or order on this one...sorry.
Assuming that they are holding back on content until release, as is normal for SE, It is a good game that is unfortunately hampered by the interface. Those who are used to these kinds of games, especially FF games will be fine. But others will have to be willing to relearn how to interact with an mmo. I cannot recommend playing it at all without first trying it out for several days at the least. SE will have to release a free trial or they are going to get a lot of pissed off consumers returning opened boxes and raising holy hell.
Simply put. you have to WANT to get past the odd interface. If you can do that, it is a pretty good game. Good story. Good immersion. Excellent visuals and audio.
This assumes, of course that it will get more content and at least some tutorial features.
But don't buy it without trying it unless you are familiar with FFXI.
All die, so die well.
After several dissapointments with pre-orders, I would say no anyway... even to something like WOW2, or EQ3.. something that is pretty much a guaranteed safe bet.
Before the whole MMO Malarky really hit it off, I would always read reviews in trusted magazines that employed authors that had similar tastes and opinions in games to me. (PC gamer, C+VG and PC Format generally had differing opinions... I sat in the PC Format camp!)
With FFXIV or indeed any other game that is still truly testing, and not just giving a trial period in its open beta, it is really too late in the day to make any drastic sweeping changes to improve the overall feel and experience of a game.
With so few days to go before launch, I can only see the Pre-order people as "Extended Beta" players, Release day players as "Extended Extended Beta" players, and finally those that join 6 months down the line might get a taste of the game as it should be.
Personally I am enjoying the beta up to a point, but couldnt reccomend a product that requires a developer from a rival company to regularly release patches to activate Hardware mouse in a product. That is just poor...
You never know though... AOC had a miracle patch a few days before release than increased frame rate by about 200% in Tortage outside areas, so maybe SE can do the same and implement everything with some serious tweakage!
No, I wouldn't suggest pre-ordering this game.
Wait until well after release. It's the smart way to do business.
Serious death penalties makes every close call an adrenaline rush, and every minor achievement a major victory. This alternative rule-set should be in all MMORPGs.
This.
Serious death penalties makes every close call an adrenaline rush, and every minor achievement a major victory. This alternative rule-set should be in all MMORPGs.
I wouldn't recommand pre-order of FFXIV unless I think the person in question is willing to follow the game for a long period of time and "grow" with the world along with SE. OR if the player has clearly enjoyed his experienced with the game but is, for some odd reasons, hesistant to buy the game.
Personally I'll be pre-ordering FFXIV.
Good or not (that is an opinion), this game is too different (that is a fact), in a weird way as expressed by most players and compared to the other RPGs, MMOs and even other FFs; besides, not only different it's too complicated and restrictive in many ways for me to recommend it to anyone that wouldn't know FF already, and preferably FF XI. Even in such a case, I'd recommend testing it (and reading a lot on how it works) before buying it, because F XIV is so 90's that I can't vouch for anyone to like that.
I tend to like it personally. I mean the ideas, the concepts. Story telling's great. But the general making of the game is just disappointing. Square lost it touch, I'm now sadly convinced of that (I liked XII, but XIII and now this... ugh). The UI and the logics behind it (even if it were fast as hell) are an outrage to ergonomics and a psychological disgrace for game(read: entertainment!)-makers.
I have decided not to pre-order. This is coming from someone who played all FFs from IV to XIII (excepted XI), and reached those lv99 characters in all of them, end-game achievements etc (short story: yes, i can grind a Squaresoft game). My initial intention was a CE pre-order. But not this time. This XIV is not a "MMO of good fantasy", it's a "bad fantasy of an MMO ", not on-par with the gaming era we're in now, not delivering by the standards I expect from Square, terribly disappointing from Tanaka but unsurprisingly I guess since the man doesn't even play MMOs to know what products exist out there. FF XIV, even on its own turf of a true descendant of FF XI, is not nearly polished enough in many ways for me to appreciate it--despite state-of-the art graphics and soundtrack.
It pains me because some of my friends who are more "fanboys/girls", I guess, than me, will hop on it. I don't know if they'll stick as much as they did in FF XI, and I hope I'll be able to join the train somewhere in 2011. But there's going to be a lot of work from Square between now and that time, should it ever come, not to change the game systems themselves (kinda like them personally) but to make the game less of a hassle to play and enjoy.
Short answer: NO.
Honestly no, unless someone was a fan of Final Fantasy (especially FFXI) I would not recommend for them to preorder the game. I might recommend it to them several months after release when most of the problems have been ironed out for the PS3 release.
(Even then I'd feel they'd have to be open for something different, and be able to manage using a cumbersome UI, if they had no MMO experience or only WoW as their MMO experience I still probably wouldn't recommend it to them)
I thought about cancelling my preorder in closed beta, but the open beta imrpoved my outlook quite a bit. There are still many things that need fixing, or added fluidity.
As far as recommending it to friends, I warn them about the frustrations they will encounter, and seemingly poor game design decisions. I had one friend who coudln't even get the beta to launch until changing his security settings in internet explorer....
I think the game has terrific potential, and a great game world, but they need to cut down on tedious steps and inrease interface fluidity to make it a truly great game.
I would feel bad if by my recommendation someone pre-orderd this or bought it day one, becouse I know that on the top of the usual mmo birthing pains there would be all the shit design decisions making for a completely miserable first impression. I am sure 6 months after the launch the game will be worth a second look but as it stands right now I would honestly recommend staying away from this game and wait for something else.
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I enjoyed Half-Life, Dragon Age, and Fallout 3. All of those games got over 90% scores from the majority of quality review publications. I fail to see your point. You play video games just to support game companies for making crappy games?
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Yes I would and have recommended this game to others. The crowd of gamers I play with usually send out one or two to try any new game first, and pass thier recommendations off to everyone else. This game is good, very good actually, one of the best I have seen in years. If your willing to take a couple days to get familiar with the design and UI it becomes a real joy to play. And thankfully, the people I play with are highly intelligent and eager/thirsty for gaming challenges. The prospect of not being spoon fed by this game alone scores points with me and my friends. And we are all looking forward to playing this one for years to come. Two pre-orders for me alone, fifteen more already placed by my friends. And they too are recommending this to others they know as I write this.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
What makes a good game, and what score means a good game is subjective. If we talk about % scores than why not play everything above 50% since thats basically avarage and everything rated higher is above avarge thus pretty good. Whether reviewers actually use their scales to their full extent is another matter.