You should probably be required to have played WAR sometime in 2010 to rip on it. WAR was obviously a disaster on release and it took over a year to actually get it to where it should have been then .. but it's not the same game it was during the alpha (err 2008 release) days.
I think the author is using TODAY's game as his basis of comparison .. and today's WAR is actually quite good.
You can't be very familiar with DAoC or the MMO genre in general to make such a ridiculous statement.
Waaaaaay too generus, might as well just put your scales on a ladder of 3; Bad, decent, Good. Most of the time you only use 8, 9 and 10. You are also completly OFF the mark, 10/10 being perfect which is impossible, its certainly not the case for warhammer in ANY departement.
3/10 on en game in warhammer would have been right.
4/10 on PVP would also have been more reasonable because its was totally MEANINGLESS to PVP in this game since it was just about who spammed their crowd control first and AOEs.
Both are good games. But regardless of what anyone thinks here, I am fairly sure that Warhammer has alot more people playing then the 1334 people currently "defending the realms" of Camelot.
If you logged into the game you would know that there is generally somewhere around 3,000 playing "defending the realms". I hate when people talk like they know something.
Yep, that 1334 number has been posted for weeks, the website is broken, there are way more ppl logging on nightly.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
Article was interesting up to the part where you talk about pvp, sorry but as much as I hate to say this, the pvp sucked almost as bad as the pve in WAR... So much that the devs had to remove 1/4 of all the features that were in game at launch.
WAR needed active players to work, but they failed to deliver on so many levels the servers went empty and then the game sucked w/o anough active players.
The concept is still good on papers and still have a chance, problem is Mythic clearly didn't have a captain, WAR was cruising on the failboat to empty servers.
Seems ironic that WAR came AFTER DAOC - if DAOC had been the successor with War's advanced graphic capabilities, we'd have a true winner on our hands today.
If MMORPG wants to be considered anything other than a shill for MMO companies they should consider trashing rubbish articles like this. Not print it as if it's an honest comparison. The only thing War should score high in is marketing because of the money they made on box sales. They really made that turd look good.
i just wish they'd put 20 quid into daoc and revamp the graphics and anims, then give if a fucking good marketing kick up the arse and it'd be ace again.
Daoc has the best game play and pvp experience i've played ever.
This article is a joke. How can WAR be scored a 10 on anything? A 10 = perfect. WAR is miles away from perfect. In fact hardly any game should be considered perfect. The only thing that made any sense in this article is the first bit about the game world.
To say that WAR is effectively equal to DAoC is just crazy. It isnt anywhere near as good as DAoC. The entire design of that game was so much better. I wish a new revamped one would get made.
You cheated, should have been: DaoC newbie experience 0/10.
"Traditionally, massively multiplier online games have been about three basic gameplay pillars combat, exploration and character progression. In Alganon, in addition to these we've added the fourth pillar to the equation: Copy & Paste."
Are you kidding?? I'm glad blogs are opinions and not facts, cause dude, you're way off. Warhammer pales in comparrison to quite possibly the greatest MMO ever.
DAOC might be old, but so is Lady Liberty, and she still gets the job done, as does DAOC.
Vack FF XIV - the single worse game to cross my hard drive, ever.
You cheated, should have been: DaoC newbie experience 0/10.
Having gone back to daoc as a newbie in recent months, the newbie experience is much much better that it used to be, they kit you out up to 20, tutorial you lots of stuff and explain almost all aspects of the game pretty well.
Who have made up this points 10/10 or were have you got them from. Becuse the person or persons that have come up with this nr. must have hit there head badly in some of this areas.
You cheated, should have been: DaoC newbie experience 0/10.
And that is a good thing, MMO's are suppose to confuse you. The first time I ever played daoc I couldn't even figure out how to attack mobs, and it was awesome. I had no idea where anything was, so I just explored. It was by far the best MMO experience i'v ever had.
East Carolina University, Computer Science BS, 2011 -------------------- Current game: DAOC
Games played and quit: L2, PlanetSide, RF Online, GuildWars, SWG, COH/COV, Vanguard, LOTRO, WoW, WW2 Online, FFXI, Auto-Assault, EVE Online, ShadowBane, RYL, Rappelz, Last Chaos, Myst Online, POTBS, EQ2, Warhammer Online, AoC, Aion, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Allods, Darkfall.
There has not, nor does it seem there will ever be, PvP/RvR like DAOC. Hands down, one of the best MMO's ever made until Mythic ruined it. I was an on-going tester for six years and burnt the game to the ground. I often think of going back but did that several times in the past and just doesn't hold me like it used to.
There is zero competition against WAR and WAR was simply a failure. Many of us testers in WAR tried desperately for a better route and fixes but MJ wanted to hear none of it. Mythic SHOULD HAVE NOT DUMPED IMPERATOR FOR WAR. THAT WAS THE FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR THIS STUDIO. IMPERATOR WOULD STILL BE GOING STRONG TODAY!
Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box. ~ Italian proverb
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You can't be very familiar with DAoC or the MMO genre in general to make such a ridiculous statement.
Waaaaaay too generus, might as well just put your scales on a ladder of 3; Bad, decent, Good. Most of the time you only use 8, 9 and 10. You are also completly OFF the mark, 10/10 being perfect which is impossible, its certainly not the case for warhammer in ANY departement.
3/10 on en game in warhammer would have been right.
4/10 on PVP would also have been more reasonable because its was totally MEANINGLESS to PVP in this game since it was just about who spammed their crowd control first and AOEs.
Get real.
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Now: developers love money and make games.
52-51 lol. DAOC was and still is alot more fun than WAR was or will ever be.
I enjoyed the article and like many here, I think the score should be higher in DAOC's favor.
For those of you that didnt read the article, you missed out. It was a great read.
Good article, but im sorry, DAOC should always get a 10/10 on group play. DAOC has hands down the best ever group play, no game has even come close.
As well as PVP, DAOC should always get a 10/10 in the pvp department. WAR is just a big zergfest and turned pvp into pve.
EDIT: DAOC should get a 1/10 on the solo part, but imo, the lower the score for that category the better.
East Carolina University, Computer Science BS, 2011
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Current game: DAOC
Games played and quit: L2, PlanetSide, RF Online, GuildWars, SWG, COH/COV, Vanguard, LOTRO, WoW, WW2 Online, FFXI, Auto-Assault, EVE Online, ShadowBane, RYL, Rappelz, Last Chaos, Myst Online, POTBS, EQ2, Warhammer Online, AoC, Aion, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Allods, Darkfall.
Waiting on: Earthrise
Names: Citio, Goldie, Sportacus
Yep, that 1334 number has been posted for weeks, the website is broken, there are way more ppl logging on nightly.
When I said i had "time", i meant virtual time, i got no RL "time" for you.
Article was interesting up to the part where you talk about pvp, sorry but as much as I hate to say this, the pvp sucked almost as bad as the pve in WAR... So much that the devs had to remove 1/4 of all the features that were in game at launch.
WAR needed active players to work, but they failed to deliver on so many levels the servers went empty and then the game sucked w/o anough active players.
The concept is still good on papers and still have a chance, problem is Mythic clearly didn't have a captain, WAR was cruising on the failboat to empty servers.
QFT.
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Why would you want to destroy a perfectly good boob!?!
lol of course DAOC was going to win. DAOC best game of all time and sadly lost to the new era of mmorpg gamers
oh and do a rohan vs heros of the three kingdoms.
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If MMORPG wants to be considered anything other than a shill for MMO companies they should consider trashing rubbish articles like this. Not print it as if it's an honest comparison. The only thing War should score high in is marketing because of the money they made on box sales. They really made that turd look good.
i just wish they'd put 20 quid into daoc and revamp the graphics and anims, then give if a fucking good marketing kick up the arse and it'd be ace again.
Daoc has the best game play and pvp experience i've played ever.
This article is a joke. How can WAR be scored a 10 on anything? A 10 = perfect. WAR is miles away from perfect. In fact hardly any game should be considered perfect. The only thing that made any sense in this article is the first bit about the game world.
To say that WAR is effectively equal to DAoC is just crazy. It isnt anywhere near as good as DAoC. The entire design of that game was so much better. I wish a new revamped one would get made.
You cheated, should have been: DaoC newbie experience 0/10.
"Traditionally, massively multiplier online games have been about three basic gameplay pillars combat, exploration and character progression. In Alganon, in addition to these we've added the fourth pillar to the equation: Copy & Paste."
52-51 ?!?!?!?!
Are you kidding?? I'm glad blogs are opinions and not facts, cause dude, you're way off. Warhammer pales in comparrison to quite possibly the greatest MMO ever.
DAOC might be old, but so is Lady Liberty, and she still gets the job done, as does DAOC.
Vack
FF XIV - the single worse game to cross my hard drive, ever.
Having gone back to daoc as a newbie in recent months, the newbie experience is much much better that it used to be, they kit you out up to 20, tutorial you lots of stuff and explain almost all aspects of the game pretty well.
DAoC,
Worst Opinion ever!
Soemthing reaks of money exchange.
Who have made up this points 10/10 or were have you got them from. Becuse the person or persons that have come up with this nr. must have hit there head badly in some of this areas.
Guild Wars vs Aion
And that is a good thing, MMO's are suppose to confuse you. The first time I ever played daoc I couldn't even figure out how to attack mobs, and it was awesome. I had no idea where anything was, so I just explored. It was by far the best MMO experience i'v ever had.
East Carolina University, Computer Science BS, 2011
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Current game: DAOC
Games played and quit: L2, PlanetSide, RF Online, GuildWars, SWG, COH/COV, Vanguard, LOTRO, WoW, WW2 Online, FFXI, Auto-Assault, EVE Online, ShadowBane, RYL, Rappelz, Last Chaos, Myst Online, POTBS, EQ2, Warhammer Online, AoC, Aion, Champions Online, Star Trek Online, Allods, Darkfall.
Waiting on: Earthrise
Names: Citio, Goldie, Sportacus
I got a laugh out of WARs 10/10 for endgame PVP content....
Really...
a 10?
Having played both games, my fondness memories lie with DAoC. Great community-great battles even if the server did crash!
There has not, nor does it seem there will ever be, PvP/RvR like DAOC. Hands down, one of the best MMO's ever made until Mythic ruined it. I was an on-going tester for six years and burnt the game to the ground. I often think of going back but did that several times in the past and just doesn't hold me like it used to.
There is zero competition against WAR and WAR was simply a failure. Many of us testers in WAR tried desperately for a better route and fixes but MJ wanted to hear none of it. Mythic SHOULD HAVE NOT DUMPED IMPERATOR FOR WAR. THAT WAS THE FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR THIS STUDIO. IMPERATOR WOULD STILL BE GOING STRONG TODAY!
Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box. ~ Italian proverb
Looks more like a some lame troll's post than an article.
IZI MODO?! Ha-ha-ha!