Actually they informed us that the story line wouldn't be fully unlocked until retail. They also listed all types of content, that would be available at retail. What was listed (by type) is in the game.
I think you've repeated that enough. I'll take your word for it if you just stop saying it.
Actually they informed us that the story line wouldn't be fully unlocked until retail. They also listed all types of content, that would be available at retail. What was listed (by type) is in the game.
I think you've repeated that enough. I'll take your word for it if you just stop saying it.
You gave objective items on why the game is in it's current state, and also gave your opinion on those points. You didn't just say, I hated the interface. You told what happened with it and everything in addition to your opinion. Pretty key.
Of course the fanboiz are in denial once again. They can't accept the fact that someone doesn't like the game and thus it must be:
1) Troll
2) Too used to WoW
3) It's only beta and going to be oh so drasticlly different at launch (good luck with that.)
4) It's actually more than a week away.. like a week and half because that really matters.
I feel bad for those that just can't accept reality. Of course I am talking about those of you that use the above reasons.
If you played the game and really do enjoy it, that's understandable. I'm sure there are a bunch of people that simply love this game. But using the above excuses is a sad attempt at justifying anything.
I am one of those players playing the OB and thoroughly enjoying it. Is the game perfect? No. Will it be perfect at launch? Most likely not. What game is? Will it progress into a great game, with a great story line, and amazingly captive content? I believe it will. And thats all that matters to me. I don't believe the combat is slow. And i've been playing many MMO's as of late that have resorted to getting rid of auto attack. Some are just FPS games played in third person with a sword instead of a gun, which i find completely boring myself. Some of us are looking for an "EQ1" style game, with a told story and modern graphics. Is it a Niche game? It sure is, and thats find with me, and most likely the couple 100,000 that will play this game.
It wasn't meant to topple any current MMO behemoth's. It was just meant to create a game for the FF supporters to love and grow with.
I really hope they consider redoing their UI, and adding a MUCH needed key mapping option, otherwise just release this game on console and be done with it.....So sorry to say. Anyways, don't mean to hurt anyones feelings, but I'm really sorry that the game didn't do a better job for me, like I said I was really looking forward to it, but now......pass.
They had keymapping in XI, and to be honest, I can't remember if I saw it in XIV. If they don't, they probably will add it. I am pretty confident they will not change the way the UI is set up tho.
obviously there is a lot of things being held out on right now. Whether this is going to be at launch (most likely won't) but it will be in eventually. The game will advance. Those of us willing to wait it out won't be disappointed. Some of you who aren't going to wait it out, best of luck to you. This is all from the database btw.
obviously there is a lot of things being held out on right now. Whether this is going to be at launch (most likely won't) but it will be in eventually. The game will advance. Those of us willing to wait it out won't be disappointed. Some of you who aren't going to wait it out, best of luck to you. This is all from the database btw.
Complete Class list for FFXIV
Shweet, where did you find that?? Got a link or something?
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I think this review is spot on and agree with almost everything that was said in it. Like the OP, I really wanted to enjoy this game but find it impossible to do so.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
I have to admit, that's a pretty good review from the perspective of the average gamer who is somewhat lacking in imagination and is technically inept enough that he can't even be bothered to create a macro through the convenient in-game interface without it being a major travesty of impossibly obtuse interface curve.
Some people will tell me that this is a fault of Final Fantasy XIV. I would tell them that I rather appreciate a game with a minimum intelligence barrier of entry.
If it were SOE or Cryptic my opinion would be in a different direction entirely, but I've never been stung by Square-Enix before, they've always been pretty honest about their games.
Bugs and issues aside, this is exactly why I have no worries about the direction this game will go.
As far as the nay saying goes, name a game that IS perfect.
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Yeah, still waiting for that answer.
The simple truth is, some people will hate this game while others love it and yet others are in between. Personally, I'm looking forward to spending my time in this game and not on these forums....
I have to admit, that's a pretty good review from the perspective of the average gaming newbie who can't even be bothered to create a macro through the convenient in-game interface without it being a major travesty of impossibly obtuse interface curve.
Some people will tell me that this is a fault of Final Fantasy XIV. I would tell them that I rather appreciate a game with a minimum intelligence barrier of entry.
You are aware that arrogance is a psychologically common trait of people who are actually less intelligent than they perceive themselves to be?
Your post is like an immature teenagers even though you are over 30... don't mind what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
I have to admit, that's a pretty good review from the perspective of the average gaming newbie who can't even be bothered to create a macro through the convenient in-game interface without it being a major travesty of impossibly obtuse interface curve.
Some people will tell me that this is a fault of Final Fantasy XIV. I would tell them that I rather appreciate a game with a minimum intelligence barrier of entry.
You are aware that arrogance is a psychologically common trait of people who are actually less intelligent than they perceive themselves to be?
Your post is like an immature teenagers even though you are over 30... don't mind what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
The way I see it, it's not arrogance if it's true.
I have to admit, that's a pretty good review from the perspective of the average gaming newbie who can't even be bothered to create a macro through the convenient in-game interface without it being a major travesty of impossibly obtuse interface curve.
Some people will tell me that this is a fault of Final Fantasy XIV. I would tell them that I rather appreciate a game with a minimum intelligence barrier of entry.
You are aware that arrogance is a psychologically common trait of people who are actually less intelligent than they perceive themselves to be?
Your post is like an immature teenagers even though you are over 30... don't mind what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
The way I see it, it's not arrogance if it's true.
Well, thats just another arrogant comment really isn't it .
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
I have to admit, that's a pretty good review from the perspective of the average gaming newbie who can't even be bothered to create a macro through the convenient in-game interface without it being a major travesty of impossibly obtuse interface curve.
Some people will tell me that this is a fault of Final Fantasy XIV. I would tell them that I rather appreciate a game with a minimum intelligence barrier of entry.
You are aware that arrogance is a psychologically common trait of people who are actually less intelligent than they perceive themselves to be?
Your post is like an immature teenagers even though you are over 30... don't mind what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
The way I see it, it's not arrogance if it's true.
Well, thats just another arrogant comment really isn't it .
Sympathise with my perspective a bit.
I don't have a problem with the interface (other than it's laggy - it's not that I don't have my own set of complaints). If you want to look at it in it's entirety, it's not a badly designed, interface, merely differerent. All interfaces have their ups and downs. This one has an auto-language translator and is compatible with consoles. It's a pretty good interface, overall.
I'm bored with the overly casual-friendly nature of most MMORPGs make these days. Those games bore me. there's no real challenge to them, just persistence leading to baseless reward. Here, in Final Fantasy XIV, that's not quite the case. Though, regretfully, it's not quite as hardcore as XI... it's still pretty hardcore. Finally! Frankly, games like this are so much in the minority as to be precious to me.
Suddenly, some putz pops in and tells me that game sucks eggs because it's not casual friendly enough and he can't handle the interface.
Put all those together, I'm left with only one conclusion: if you can't handle this game, it's simply not for you. There's plenty of other games that already pander to your exact desires, it's not like the avalanche of casual titles haev left you wanting, it's this is just one of the few that don't. A lot of us are having fun, we're not keeping you, the door is right over there.
You've called this arrogance. You want to know what arrogance is? Arrogance is walking into the bowling alley and telling everybody they're stupid for enjoying the game because the bowling balls are too heavy. Guess what? That's a very compatible analogy to what we're talking about with the FFXIV GUI differences.
So forgive me for humbly expressing something you find so arrogant. There's a minimum arm strength required to go bowling, this nobody would argue with, that's not arrogant because it's true. So why would it be considered arrogant to point out that there's a a minimum interface-coping mental strength (an adaptivity that can be considered under the umbrella of intelligence) required to deal with FFXIV's heavier-than-usual interface?
I'm tired of bowling with people who try to substitute baseballs for bowling bowls. Really, you don't have to leave, we can all enjoy this game together, I'd like that. However, I need you stop whining so much about the burden of playing: it's souring things the rest of us who enjoy the game. In fact, if you can do that, maybe you should stay, it seems you've been spoiled playing bowling with baseballs for too long. Stick around, maybe bulk up that lacking muscle a bit, hmm?
For people that can't do this, who would rather complain loudly than adapt to the game... well, thank goodness there's that minimum barrier of entry to discourage them from hanging around. It's not an arrogant statement, really, it's actually a very humble one. One of the peasants reflecting on how lucky they are that the nobility does not pester them at the farm because they dislike the aura of hard work about it.
I have to admit, that's a pretty good review from the perspective of the average gaming newbie who can't even be bothered to create a macro through the convenient in-game interface without it being a major travesty of impossibly obtuse interface curve.
Some people will tell me that this is a fault of Final Fantasy XIV. I would tell them that I rather appreciate a game with a minimum intelligence barrier of entry.
You are aware that arrogance is a psychologically common trait of people who are actually less intelligent than they perceive themselves to be?
Your post is like an immature teenagers even though you are over 30... don't mind what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
The way I see it, it's not arrogance if it's true.
Well, thats just another arrogant comment really isn't it .
Sympathise with my perspective a bit.
I don't have a problem with the interface (other than it's laggy). I'm also somewhat sickened with the overly casual-friendly nature of most MMORPGs make these days.
Here, I've a game I enjoy. Suddenly, some putz pops in and tells me the game sucks eggs because he can't handle the interface.
Well, shoot, the game works fine for me. Maybe this game's just not for you if the interface is too hard for you to handle? The door's over there.
You want to know what arrogance is? Arrogance is walking into the bowling alley and telling everybody they're stupid for enjoying the game because the bowling balls are too heavy. That's the same thing that's happening here with GUI complaints.
Wouldn't it be better for you to just explain ways others can improve the way the interface works instead of insulting them?
Arrogance is defined as an offensive display of superiority or self-importance and overbearing pride. You suggested others are less intelligent than you and that is why they don't enjoy the game, that was arrogant.. fact.
The interface is a little awkward and could use some improvements, everyone admits that. You are content with it because you think the rest of the game is worth it, good for you. Others may have less patience or feel it isn't worth the hassle, why is them having less intelligence or being less capable the only option you can see?
Like I said, once you use a gamepad it is a lot better. I had no problem with the interface once I did that. The rest of the game isn't to my taste but thats another story.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
Arrogance is defined as an offensive display of superiority or self-importance and overbearing pride. You suggested others are less intelligent than you and that is why they don't enjoy the game, that was arrogant.. fact.
The interface is a little awkward and could use some improvements, everyone admits that. You are content with it because you think the rest of the game is worth it, good for you. Others may have less patience or feel it isn't worth the hassle, why is them having less intelligence or being less capable the only option you can see?
Like I said, once you use a gamepad it is a lot better. I had no problem with the interface once I did that. The rest of the game isn't to my taste but thats another story.
Wow, that sure has nothing to do with that giant thing you qouted. Shall I, then, address what you have written after you've done nothing to acknowledge you even read what I wrote to you the last time? I guess, even though I really can't see the point, as you're not going to read it anyway.
The interface is awkward. Yes. Get back to me when you've moved past this as being an automatic disqualification for the merit of the game.
The interface could be improved. Yes. Maybe one day it will be. Shall we, then, discuss how it is it will be improved? Be my guest. Of course, knowing a bit about game development, it's not like it'll make any difference: this is something professional game developers can already do better than we can.
It seems the greater problem here is I have, in fact, thought this through further. Nit picking is easy. Understanding is hard.
I have to admit, that's a pretty good review from the perspective of the average gaming newbie who can't even be bothered to create a macro through the convenient in-game interface without it being a major travesty of impossibly obtuse interface curve.
Some people will tell me that this is a fault of Final Fantasy XIV. I would tell them that I rather appreciate a game with a minimum intelligence barrier of entry.
You are aware that arrogance is a psychologically common trait of people who are actually less intelligent than they perceive themselves to be?
Your post is like an immature teenagers even though you are over 30... don't mind what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
The way I see it, it's not arrogance if it's true.
Well, thats just another arrogant comment really isn't it .
Sympathise with my perspective a bit.
I don't have a problem with the interface (other than it's laggy - it's not that I don't have my own set of complaints). If you want to look at it in it's entirety, it's not a badly designed, interface, merely differerent. All interfaces have their ups and downs. This one has an auto-language translator and is compatible with consoles. It's a pretty good interface, overall.
I'm bored with the overly casual-friendly nature of most MMORPGs make these days. Those games bore me. there's no real challenge to them, just persistence leading to baseless reward. Here, in Final Fantasy XIV, that's not quite the case. Though, regretfully, it's not quite as hardcore as XI... it's still pretty hardcore. Finally! Frankly, games like this are so much in the minority as to be precious to me.
Suddenly, some putz pops in and tells me that game sucks eggs because it's not casual friendly enough and he can't handle the interface.
Put all those together, I'm left with only one conclusion: if you can't handle this game, it's simply not for you. There's plenty of other games that already pander to your exact desires, it's not like the avalanche of casual titles haev left you wanting, it's this is just one of the few that don't. A lot of us are having fun, we're not keeping you, the door is right over there.
You've called this arrogance. You want to know what arrogance is? Arrogance is walking into the bowling alley and telling everybody they're stupid for enjoying the game because the bowling balls are too heavy. Guess what? That's a very compatible analogy to what we're talking about with the FFXIV GUI differences.
So forgive me for humbly expressing something you find so arrogant. There's a minimum arm strength required to go bowling, this nobody would argue with, that's not arrogant because it's true. So why would it be considered arrogant to point out that there's a a minimum interface-coping mental strength (an adaptivity that can be considered under the umbrella of intelligence) required to deal with FFXIV's heavier-than-usual interface?
I'm tired of bowling with people who try to substitute baseballs for bowling bowls. Really, you don't have to leave, we can all enjoy this game together, I'd like that. However, I need you stop whining so much about the burden of playing: it's souring things the rest of us who enjoy the game. In fact, if you can do that, maybe you should stay, it seems you've been spoiled playing bowling with baseballs for too long. Stick around, maybe bulk up that lacking muscle a bit, hmm?
For people that can't do this, who would rather complain loudly than adapt to the game... well, thank goodness there's that minimum barrier of entry to discourage them from hanging around. It's not an arrogant statement, really, it's actually a very humble one. One of the peasants reflecting on how lucky they are that the nobility does not pester them at the farm because they dislike the aura of hard work about it.
^ What he said. So many of you now have ADD that you expect everything to cater to your need for instant gratification. It's not just games, but movies, television, even books for Christ's sake! It's not stupid you are, it's just lazy. No patience to learn something new, no patience to grow with a game rather than having it cater to your whim out of the box. Have you ever put together a puzzle with more than 500 pieces? Assembled a model that didn't snap together? Sometimes things require you to develop new skills. They may seem difficult and awkward at first, but with time you get better at it, and learn shortcuts. Map the menu button to your middle mouse button then you can click and scroll much easier. Make some macros to get you where you want with a single push of a button. There are hundreds of options with the current system, you just aren't taking the time to figure them out.
Wow, that sure has nothing to do with that giant thing you qouted. Shall I, then, address what you have written after you've done nothing to acknowledge you even read what I wrote to you the last time? No, I really can't see the point.
The interface is awkward. Yes. Get back to me when you've moved past this as being an automatic disqualification for the merit of the game.
If you'd read the last line of my post you would have seen that my main issues with the game are not the interface at all. That isn't even the reason I quoted you in the first place. It was your 'insults'. I don't care who enjoys the game or not, but I do care when someone suggests I'm less intelligent than them because I don't.
I do acknowledge what you wrote but it was basically another way of saying you're better at MMO's than everyone who doesn't like it, arrogant. Your bowling analogy is not arrogance it is simply someones opinion, which is why I provided a definition for you.
I addressed your post directly, summed up: stop suggesting others are less able than you and I won't think 'you' are the putz anymore.
I havn't called you stupid for liking the game, not sure who has but I'd say they were wrong for doing that as well.
I learned a long time ago that trying to reason with arrogant people is very difficult. Just stop insulting others, you're not better or worse than anyone else because you like FFXIV, and it doesn't mean you are a better gamer.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
The interface could be improved. Yes. Maybe one day it will be. Shall we, then, discuss how it is it will be improved? Be my guest. Of course, knowing a bit about game development, it's not like it'll make any difference: this is something professional game developers can already do better than we can.
I have been testing FFXIV since early alpha and there is one thing I learned in that time. You are right, the devs wanted us to test 'their' ideas and make sure they are working. Sadly, they were not interested in listening to any of the testers suggestions. We could discuss all we want but I doubt anyone will listen.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
The thing very few people know is by the time the product has reached the point that this game has, the time for suggestions has long since past. That time was way before the game began programing. The only time a company will even think about changing their product are under two situations. 1) if they ask for your opinion on the matter and then they will only do it if they think it will better their game, or 2) If there is such an overwhelming majority for one idea that it would greatly hurt their sales not to implement it.
Unless one of these two occur, a company by now has already laid out their plans, built the structure, laid the concrete, and put the offices in so to speak. Trying to change the game now is going to require some great amount of doing and following to even have an effect. One or twenty people aren't going to do it regardless of how determine they are.
This goes for every game ever made, it's not that the developers aren't listening to your ideas, it's just frankly it's too late in the stage to make those sort of changes. To have any real pull you need to be somewhere in their company and bring suggestions up much earlier then now.
Edit: One slight sign of hope still remains and i thought of this after i posted which is why it's in an edit instead of the body. Anyhow if there is such a large majority of players who dislike something. They can still add a change into the game later in an expansion or update. It's just expecting it at launch is not possible as it's simply just too late.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I have to admit, that's a pretty good review from the perspective of the average gaming newbie who can't even be bothered to create a macro through the convenient in-game interface without it being a major travesty of impossibly obtuse interface curve.
Some people will tell me that this is a fault of Final Fantasy XIV. I would tell them that I rather appreciate a game with a minimum intelligence barrier of entry.
You are aware that arrogance is a psychologically common trait of people who are actually less intelligent than they perceive themselves to be?
Your post is like an immature teenagers even though you are over 30... don't mind what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
The way I see it, it's not arrogance if it's true.
Well, thats just another arrogant comment really isn't it .
Sympathise with my perspective a bit.
I don't have a problem with the interface (other than it's laggy - it's not that I don't have my own set of complaints). If you want to look at it in it's entirety, it's not a badly designed, interface, merely differerent. All interfaces have their ups and downs. This one has an auto-language translator and is compatible with consoles. It's a pretty good interface, overall.
I'm bored with the overly casual-friendly nature of most MMORPGs make these days. Those games bore me. there's no real challenge to them, just persistence leading to baseless reward. Here, in Final Fantasy XIV, that's not quite the case. Though, regretfully, it's not quite as hardcore as XI... it's still pretty hardcore. Finally! Frankly, games like this are so much in the minority as to be precious to me.
Suddenly, some putz pops in and tells me that game sucks eggs because it's not casual friendly enough and he can't handle the interface.
Put all those together, I'm left with only one conclusion: if you can't handle this game, it's simply not for you. There's plenty of other games that already pander to your exact desires, it's not like the avalanche of casual titles haev left you wanting, it's this is just one of the few that don't. A lot of us are having fun, we're not keeping you, the door is right over there.
You've called this arrogance. You want to know what arrogance is? Arrogance is walking into the bowling alley and telling everybody they're stupid for enjoying the game because the bowling balls are too heavy. Guess what? That's a very compatible analogy to what we're talking about with the FFXIV GUI differences.
So forgive me for humbly expressing something you find so arrogant. There's a minimum arm strength required to go bowling, this nobody would argue with, that's not arrogant because it's true. So why would it be considered arrogant to point out that there's a a minimum interface-coping mental strength (an adaptivity that can be considered under the umbrella of intelligence) required to deal with FFXIV's heavier-than-usual interface?
I'm tired of bowling with people who try to substitute baseballs for bowling bowls. Really, you don't have to leave, we can all enjoy this game together, I'd like that. However, I need you stop whining so much about the burden of playing: it's souring things the rest of us who enjoy the game. In fact, if you can do that, maybe you should stay, it seems you've been spoiled playing bowling with baseballs for too long. Stick around, maybe bulk up that lacking muscle a bit, hmm?
For people that can't do this, who would rather complain loudly than adapt to the game... well, thank goodness there's that minimum barrier of entry to discourage them from hanging around. It's not an arrogant statement, really, it's actually a very humble one. One of the peasants reflecting on how lucky they are that the nobility does not pester them at the farm because they dislike the aura of hard work about it.
I here declare that green shall be the color of arrogance!
Really dude? It sounds like you just learn a new word & you're like: "Oh my god! Oh my god! I will own forums with that!"
If you take well put logical facts for arrogance, then I can see why you might be better off sticking with the "baseballs".
You've called this arrogance. You want to know what arrogance is? Arrogance is walking into the bowling alley and telling everybody they're stupid for enjoying the game because the bowling balls are too heavy. Guess what? That's a very compatible analogy to what we're talking about with the FFXIV GUI differences.
You know at the bowling alley they have different sizes and weights for balls so everyone of all sizes and ages can play right?
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I think you've repeated that enough. I'll take your word for it if you just stop saying it.
I know right? I believe you and stuff....go away.
A good review, maybe a bit low, but still good.
You gave objective items on why the game is in it's current state, and also gave your opinion on those points. You didn't just say, I hated the interface. You told what happened with it and everything in addition to your opinion. Pretty key.
I am one of those players playing the OB and thoroughly enjoying it. Is the game perfect? No. Will it be perfect at launch? Most likely not. What game is? Will it progress into a great game, with a great story line, and amazingly captive content? I believe it will. And thats all that matters to me. I don't believe the combat is slow. And i've been playing many MMO's as of late that have resorted to getting rid of auto attack. Some are just FPS games played in third person with a sword instead of a gun, which i find completely boring myself. Some of us are looking for an "EQ1" style game, with a told story and modern graphics. Is it a Niche game? It sure is, and thats find with me, and most likely the couple 100,000 that will play this game.
It wasn't meant to topple any current MMO behemoth's. It was just meant to create a game for the FF supporters to love and grow with.
They had keymapping in XI, and to be honest, I can't remember if I saw it in XIV. If they don't, they probably will add it. I am pretty confident they will not change the way the UI is set up tho.
obviously there is a lot of things being held out on right now. Whether this is going to be at launch (most likely won't) but it will be in eventually. The game will advance. Those of us willing to wait it out won't be disappointed. Some of you who aren't going to wait it out, best of luck to you. This is all from the database btw.
Complete Class list for FFXIV
Shweet, where did you find that?? Got a link or something?
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
I think this review is spot on and agree with almost everything that was said in it. Like the OP, I really wanted to enjoy this game but find it impossible to do so.
I have to admit, that's a pretty good review from the perspective of the average gamer who is somewhat lacking in imagination and is technically inept enough that he can't even be bothered to create a macro through the convenient in-game interface without it being a major travesty of impossibly obtuse interface curve.
Some people will tell me that this is a fault of Final Fantasy XIV. I would tell them that I rather appreciate a game with a minimum intelligence barrier of entry.
Bugs and issues aside, this is exactly why I have no worries about the direction this game will go.
As far as the nay saying goes, name a game that IS perfect.
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Yeah, still waiting for that answer.
The simple truth is, some people will hate this game while others love it and yet others are in between. Personally, I'm looking forward to spending my time in this game and not on these forums....
You are aware that arrogance is a psychologically common trait of people who are actually less intelligent than they perceive themselves to be?
Your post is like an immature teenagers even though you are over 30... don't mind what you're saying, just the way you're saying it.
The way I see it, it's not arrogance if it's true.
Well, thats just another arrogant comment really isn't it
.
Sympathise with my perspective a bit.
I don't have a problem with the interface (other than it's laggy - it's not that I don't have my own set of complaints). If you want to look at it in it's entirety, it's not a badly designed, interface, merely differerent. All interfaces have their ups and downs. This one has an auto-language translator and is compatible with consoles. It's a pretty good interface, overall.
I'm bored with the overly casual-friendly nature of most MMORPGs make these days. Those games bore me. there's no real challenge to them, just persistence leading to baseless reward. Here, in Final Fantasy XIV, that's not quite the case. Though, regretfully, it's not quite as hardcore as XI... it's still pretty hardcore. Finally! Frankly, games like this are so much in the minority as to be precious to me.
Suddenly, some putz pops in and tells me that game sucks eggs because it's not casual friendly enough and he can't handle the interface.
Put all those together, I'm left with only one conclusion: if you can't handle this game, it's simply not for you. There's plenty of other games that already pander to your exact desires, it's not like the avalanche of casual titles haev left you wanting, it's this is just one of the few that don't. A lot of us are having fun, we're not keeping you, the door is right over there.
You've called this arrogance. You want to know what arrogance is? Arrogance is walking into the bowling alley and telling everybody they're stupid for enjoying the game because the bowling balls are too heavy. Guess what? That's a very compatible analogy to what we're talking about with the FFXIV GUI differences.
So forgive me for humbly expressing something you find so arrogant. There's a minimum arm strength required to go bowling, this nobody would argue with, that's not arrogant because it's true. So why would it be considered arrogant to point out that there's a a minimum interface-coping mental strength (an adaptivity that can be considered under the umbrella of intelligence) required to deal with FFXIV's heavier-than-usual interface?
I'm tired of bowling with people who try to substitute baseballs for bowling bowls. Really, you don't have to leave, we can all enjoy this game together, I'd like that. However, I need you stop whining so much about the burden of playing: it's souring things the rest of us who enjoy the game. In fact, if you can do that, maybe you should stay, it seems you've been spoiled playing bowling with baseballs for too long. Stick around, maybe bulk up that lacking muscle a bit, hmm?
For people that can't do this, who would rather complain loudly than adapt to the game... well, thank goodness there's that minimum barrier of entry to discourage them from hanging around. It's not an arrogant statement, really, it's actually a very humble one. One of the peasants reflecting on how lucky they are that the nobility does not pester them at the farm because they dislike the aura of hard work about it.
Wouldn't it be better for you to just explain ways others can improve the way the interface works instead of insulting them?
Arrogance is defined as an offensive display of superiority or self-importance and overbearing pride. You suggested others are less intelligent than you and that is why they don't enjoy the game, that was arrogant.. fact.
The interface is a little awkward and could use some improvements, everyone admits that. You are content with it because you think the rest of the game is worth it, good for you. Others may have less patience or feel it isn't worth the hassle, why is them having less intelligence or being less capable the only option you can see?
Like I said, once you use a gamepad it is a lot better. I had no problem with the interface once I did that. The rest of the game isn't to my taste but thats another story.
Wow, that sure has nothing to do with that giant thing you qouted. Shall I, then, address what you have written after you've done nothing to acknowledge you even read what I wrote to you the last time? I guess, even though I really can't see the point, as you're not going to read it anyway.
The interface is awkward. Yes. Get back to me when you've moved past this as being an automatic disqualification for the merit of the game.
The interface could be improved. Yes. Maybe one day it will be. Shall we, then, discuss how it is it will be improved? Be my guest. Of course, knowing a bit about game development, it's not like it'll make any difference: this is something professional game developers can already do better than we can.
It seems the greater problem here is I have, in fact, thought this through further. Nit picking is easy. Understanding is hard.
If FFXIV had booby sliders I would pre-order.
^ What he said. So many of you now have ADD that you expect everything to cater to your need for instant gratification. It's not just games, but movies, television, even books for Christ's sake! It's not stupid you are, it's just lazy. No patience to learn something new, no patience to grow with a game rather than having it cater to your whim out of the box. Have you ever put together a puzzle with more than 500 pieces? Assembled a model that didn't snap together? Sometimes things require you to develop new skills. They may seem difficult and awkward at first, but with time you get better at it, and learn shortcuts. Map the menu button to your middle mouse button then you can click and scroll much easier. Make some macros to get you where you want with a single push of a button. There are hundreds of options with the current system, you just aren't taking the time to figure them out.
If you'd read the last line of my post you would have seen that my main issues with the game are not the interface at all. That isn't even the reason I quoted you in the first place. It was your 'insults'. I don't care who enjoys the game or not, but I do care when someone suggests I'm less intelligent than them because I don't.
I do acknowledge what you wrote but it was basically another way of saying you're better at MMO's than everyone who doesn't like it, arrogant. Your bowling analogy is not arrogance it is simply someones opinion, which is why I provided a definition for you.
I addressed your post directly, summed up: stop suggesting others are less able than you and I won't think 'you' are the putz anymore.
I havn't called you stupid for liking the game, not sure who has but I'd say they were wrong for doing that as well.
I learned a long time ago that trying to reason with arrogant people is very difficult. Just stop insulting others, you're not better or worse than anyone else because you like FFXIV, and it doesn't mean you are a better gamer.
I have been testing FFXIV since early alpha and there is one thing I learned in that time. You are right, the devs wanted us to test 'their' ideas and make sure they are working. Sadly, they were not interested in listening to any of the testers suggestions. We could discuss all we want but I doubt anyone will listen.
Again, suggesting others don't understand things as well as you LOL.. you just can't stop it can you?
The thing very few people know is by the time the product has reached the point that this game has, the time for suggestions has long since past. That time was way before the game began programing. The only time a company will even think about changing their product are under two situations. 1) if they ask for your opinion on the matter and then they will only do it if they think it will better their game, or 2) If there is such an overwhelming majority for one idea that it would greatly hurt their sales not to implement it.
Unless one of these two occur, a company by now has already laid out their plans, built the structure, laid the concrete, and put the offices in so to speak. Trying to change the game now is going to require some great amount of doing and following to even have an effect. One or twenty people aren't going to do it regardless of how determine they are.
This goes for every game ever made, it's not that the developers aren't listening to your ideas, it's just frankly it's too late in the stage to make those sort of changes. To have any real pull you need to be somewhere in their company and bring suggestions up much earlier then now.
Edit: One slight sign of hope still remains and i thought of this after i posted which is why it's in an edit instead of the body. Anyhow if there is such a large majority of players who dislike something. They can still add a change into the game later in an expansion or update. It's just expecting it at launch is not possible as it's simply just too late.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
Horible readablity, boring, uninspired, dry, scores are based on opinion and not realistic.
Five negatives, no positives, no neutrals. Shameful review.
I here declare that green shall be the color of arrogance!
Really dude? It sounds like you just learn a new word & you're like: "Oh my god! Oh my god! I will own forums with that!"
If you take well put logical facts for arrogance, then I can see why you might be better off sticking with the "baseballs".