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What justify the 40$ price tag on Going Rogue ?
Kaynos1972
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Not a rent, it's just a question. For an expansion it seems rather pricy. I know it include all the previous expansion but i already have them. So what is there in Going Rogue that's worth 40$ ?
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You answered your own question.
The $40 price tag for an expansion justifies itself.
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Because people will pay for it. And they did. I had a lot of friends pre order it and play it for a week then stop playing the game again. I don't know how people continue to play CoH when everyone that I've seen play it ends up only being able to play it for about a week without getting extremely bored.
Nothing. Just skip this expansion and skip this game. There are many better MMOs out there you can play.
Xondar123 check your pm
http://goingrogue.na.cityofheroes.com/en/game-info/overview.html
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
The expansion alone is right there in the NCSoft store for $30. The $40 version includes everything. As an MMORPG gamer you should know that all new expacs sell for full retail for a while after release. If you want it for cheaper you're going to have to wait a few months or catch a sale....
Like release week at Best Buy -- full pack for 29.99 on sale ( ' ;
And, you may have to ignore Xondar's comment -- he's loved the gameplay would have continued playing except he kinda flipped out on the whole emote pack for 8.99 (there's a thread dedicated to it, of course : ' )
And, to answer your question, we can work backwards --
40 dollars - 15 dollar sub fee (30 days included)
25 dollars gets you City of Heroes Content, City of Villains Content, new Prateoria 1-20 content, new alignment system, 4 brand new power sets, and new costumes. I just wished they included more than 2 character slots.
For new players, that's a great deal. For existing players, it's still a good deal since the upgrade version doesn't offer game time or some costumes. Some spazzes still opted to pre-order the upgrade so they could have early access to dual pistols and demon summoning, then whined but....a fool and his money part quickly.
I get value out of the game because I enjoy the uniqueness of PUG teaming-- a team with 6 controllers plays out far differently than 6 scrappers. I also immerse myself in quests and actually read storylines rather than just race to 50 (silly people 'paying' to be pl'd boggles my mind). As one person put it best, "racing to end game is like racing to the end of your vacation."
I purchused the CoH when it first came out and played for 7 months before moving on so the price, to me, was worth it at the time. I am currently playing the trial and enjoying the new content and seriously considering the purchuse...again. To this end, the 1-20 content is worth the cash however, I will hold my opinion until I can experince what is new to me after lvl 20. OP does have a good question but, I really do think that this is one of preference in gaming. I mean, some players purchuse and defend new AAA titles prior to release while others will not even consider them (no, I will not mention names lol). Bottom line, do the trial and see if it grabs you enough to justify the cash.
Exactly. Nothing justifies the $40 price tag on this garbage. The game should be FREE. City of Heroes was fun while it lasted, but there's just so much better stuff to play these days that it's just not worth blowing your money on. From what I understand the expansion focuses more on levels 1-20 anyway, they're making people play this game over and over again to level 50 because there's absolutely nothing to do once you are level 50. Bottom line: Don't waste your money, wait until it becomes free to play because sooner or later it will.
Dont listen to people like this, seriously, what crawled up your......? You dont even play this game, yet you feel the need to jump up and down and scream 'OMG THIS CRAP SUCKS DONT PLAY IT!'. Yeah, sit down, take your ritalin and just relax. Go give advice on whatever game you do play. This game has been around since before WoW and still has a healthy subscriber base, not to mention has been near the top of MMORPG hype charts FOREVER. You dont like it, fine, a lot do.
The Going Rogue expansion was a good addition to the CoX game and the start of a complete upgrade on the graphics to bring it into the new age. They will be bringing the older world in line with the new 1-20 zone with upcoming issues. And yeah people like this have been saying CoX is fail from day one, but its still here, year after year after year after year after year after year after year.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Smells like troll.
City of Heroes is trucking along very healthily, so your dream if it going free to play is not going to happen.
Well, you're right about one thing - I don't play this game. It offers absolutely nothing that would make me want to waste my money on it. However, if you're in to a big chat room where most people are 40+ years old with avatars that actually have powers then by all means pay $14.99 /month for it. I respect that you're justifying and defending this game since you are playing it (I guess?) though. I guess not everyone likes outdated graphics - which by the way the reflections they added seem to be a big hit with the people (is it still 2004 over at Paragon Studios?), I wonder what they'll come up with next - slow, boring combat, dead servers, and making endless amount of 'alts'.
P.S. I was doing cartwheels with this post.
Hahaha, kids these days. I think you've proven my point perfectly. You dont play this game, you have nothing to bring to the table when it comes to actually providing valuable insite to this thread. You opinions are negative, baseless, and childish. You have removed all credibility of your opinion all by yourself. Just another hater trolling the MMORPG forums trying to bring others down to your dark, dismal, corner called loneliness.
Truth still remains, Going Rogue is a good expansion to a game that has been very successful for years. It is a start to bringing the CIty of Heros game into the present with new graphics content and standards. Those of us who actually play the game enjoy it, and appearntly those that dont and have never played it (if this poster is an example of them), well they have thier own comments to share. Lets all hope though that everyone is smart enough to try things for themselves instead of listening to the hatred others try and spread.
(DISCLAIMER - The use of the word YOU in the above post is not directed at any one person in particular, but towards those who fall into the category itself - there is no personal attack here, neither intentional nor implied.)
Unlike WoW where most people are under 15, or behave like it.....
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It is kind of funny how NCsoft handled this.
$39.99 vs. $29.99
$10 price difference.
It is the reason I cancelled my CoX account.
What does a person get by spending that additional $10? They get City of Heroes and City of Villains. Which are still available as one of several $19.99 versions including both games. Considering that it also comes with a month of game time, that pretty much leaves you with CoH/CoV sporting a retail of $5.
So where are we now?
For that $10, you have received CoX for $5 and a month of game time at $14.99. Not bad for your investment of $10, eh?
But wait! There's more!
You get the "exclusive" Going Rogue: Complete Collection item pack! Valued at $6.99. How do we know the value? Because you can buy this "exclusive" item pack in the store.
Okay, so yep - there you go. For the $10 more you spent, you have received a $26.98 value.
You could go that route, maybe.
Or you could look at it like this.
$39.99, $26.98 of it being taken up by that stuff - meaning you are paying $13.01 for Going Rogue.
So either you are paying $10 for that $26.98 value or you are paying $13.01 for GR.
The $10 thing sounds good or only paying $13.01 for GR sounds good, when you consider they are selling it for $29.99...
...which brings up the point of the pre-purchase they offered.
On one hand, you may think that part of that $29.99 involved the earlier access to Dual Pistols and Demon Summoning. Perhaps that was worth it, eh?
Then why is it still $29.99 for the "standard" version of GR, since they would no longer have that earlier access? Hrmm, so no - that must not have been it.
So perhaps the $29.99 is simply the price one accepts for the GR aspect of the Complete Collection.
Well, that brings up the rather interesting (and sad) issue of "new" customers getting that $26.98 value for $10 while "loyal" customers have to shell out the $26.98.
Okay, to be fair - they do not have to shell out $26.98. They already have the game. They most likely paid full retail for CoH when it came out. They most likely paid full retail for CoV when it came out. So the $5 that NCsoft is currently selling CoX for does not come into it.
They would just have to pay the $14.99 for the month's sub and $6.99 if they wanted the item pack. So they are just paying $21.98 more than a new customer.
I'm not entirely sure if it is possible for a current customer to buy the GR:CC and apply the GR code to their current account or not (if you had not guessed, I did the pre-purchase shortly after it was announced - much in the way that during the beta for CoH I did the pre-order and I pre-ordered CoV).
But that presents the interesting option of having the "loyal" customers paying an additional $10 than they had planned so they could save money...yes, one of those spending more to save deals.
Instead of the GR:CC including CoH/CoV, the item pack, and perhaps an actual "exclusive" item (by the way, there are no "exclusive" items - you either can buy them outright or "buy them" as a vet reward from a continued sub)... for that additional $10 with both GR and GR:CC including the month's sub...
...NCsoft went another way.
Go figure, eh?
What justifies the $40 price tag on Going Rogue: Complete Collection? It really is a great deal.
What justifies the $30 price tag on the regular Going Rogue? Not a damn thing.
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Exactly. Nothing justifies the $40 price tag on this garbage. The game should be FREE. City of Heroes was fun while it lasted, but there's just so much better stuff to play these days that it's just not worth blowing your money on. From what I understand the expansion focuses more on levels 1-20 anyway, they're making people play this game over and over again to level 50 because there's absolutely nothing to do once you are level 50. Bottom line: Don't waste your money, wait until it becomes free to play because sooner or later it will.
Dont listen to people like this, seriously, what crawled up your......? You dont even play this game, yet you feel the need to jump up and down and scream 'OMG THIS CRAP SUCKS DONT PLAY IT!'. Yeah, sit down, take your ritalin and just relax. Go give advice on whatever game you do play. This game has been around since before WoW and still has a healthy subscriber base, not to mention has been near the top of MMORPG hype charts FOREVER. You dont like it, fine, a lot do.
The Going Rogue expansion was a good addition to the CoX game and the start of a complete upgrade on the graphics to bring it into the new age. They will be bringing the older world in line with the new 1-20 zone with upcoming issues. And yeah people like this have been saying CoX is fail from day one, but its still here, year after year after year after year after year after year after year.
Nice post! And if I may add that endgame is coming in I 19. Hell, inherent Fitness pool will get a ton of people to resub just for the free respec and new build possibilities. The fact that CoH has run alongside WoW this long is proof enough of it's quality.
Why waste so many keystrokes complaining over $10? That's an insignificant amount of money whether one is a current CoH sub or not.I realized this after the second time I resubbed to this game and it's why I didn't even waste money on this expansion either, though I did use the free code from here for two week free trial. Obviously it didn't grant me access to the expansion content but even looking at the site listing it isn't worth the price of an expansion.
I had a feeling after the last log on that would be the last time I play this game.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
It is not a case of complaining over $10. It is a case of complaining over $21.98, the amount that loyal customers that did the pre-purchase paid in comparison to new customers. It is not even a case of complaining about the money as much as it is about the attitude.
You do a pre-order/purchase for a game, you get a "reward" for showing that support for or that loyalty to the company. They did it with CoH and CoV. Most game companies do. It has that "Thanks for supporting us, guys!" thing for it.
With this...they said, "Hey, thanks for the money so we could get this out the door - but by the way, we're going to need more money from you and giving the cool stuff to new players for less than what it will cost you - thanks for being a loyal supporter of the game!"
Yeah... screw 'em.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
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Why waste so many keystrokes complaining over $10? That's an insignificant amount of money whether one is a current CoH sub or not.It is not a case of complaining over $10. It is a case of complaining over $21.98, the amount that loyal customers that did the pre-purchase paid in comparison to new customers. It is not even a case of complaining about the money as much as it is about the attitude.
You do a pre-order/purchase for a game, you get a "reward" for showing that support for or that loyalty to the company. They did it with CoH and CoV. Most game companies do. It has that "Thanks for supporting us, guys!" thing for it.
With this...they said, "Hey, thanks for the money so we could get this out the door - but by the way, we're going to need more money from you and giving the cool stuff to new players for less than what it will cost you - thanks for being a loyal supporter of the game!"
Yeah... screw 'em.
Well I bought AE for $20 in July then GR preorder for $30 about 3 weeks out. I could have saved $10 by waiting but what if you did that for every game... or everything else in life for that matter. I don't think $10 or even $21.98 is worth cancelling your sub over. As addicting as this game is you know you'll be back with endgame & inherent fitness!I've played off and on since beta. I usually end up pretty bored pretty quickly with it. I've never been able to make the hero/villain that I want. The primary/secondary are really kind of limited coming from a comic book perspective.
Then there are issues with simple things like only having two color options for certain costume pieces when it is evident that there should be three. Not four. But three. Plain as day. There are the issues that regardless of origin, the animations are the same. The powers come from the same spot. Yes, being able to do the color customization was great - but that should have been there from the start. There are still issues with layering of the costumes and hair that have not been resolved.
Then we get GR which is basically a new starter zone catering to levels 1-20 on serious rails. You have the option of doing the alignment change, so you can do the same content you did with your heroes with your villains and vice versa...but not actually new content. Going back to the GR content, you have to be careful not to outlevel the content - skipping mobs, etc - otherwise you miss out on arcs.
Did the pre-order of CoH. Did the pre-order of CoV. Did the pre-purchase of GR. Bought all the super-booster costume packs, the GvE pack, the Mac pack, the GR pack... lol, skipped the Wedding pack and no longer playing so I skipped the Party pack.
I remember when you had to go through the zones to level up. I get why they made it easier to the point you did not have to do that even before MA - since there really is nothing to do but reroll and repeat.
I had higher hopes of some sort of actual progress for CoX with GR. Did not get that...and then ended up having to pay more for it. Was just too much.
I do not think DCUO is going to be anything. CO was atrocious. Though, CO is only $6 on Steam right now...lol. Still, CO is atrocious.
I do not know. Maybe I19 or I20...or somewhere shortly after that may get things on track.
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Not for nothing but....all of the information regarding what each version contained in order to make an informed choice was published up front months in advance. And on top of that, the community analyzed it to death. It really was a no-brainer to buy the full version, unless you were one of those people who just had to have dual pistols and demon summoning before the expansion released. Seriously, I don't get why people like you agonize over this instead of just saying "the full version is a better deal, I'll go get that one" and then do it. A fool and his money part quickly.
Edit: One final thought -- I could see there being really substance to your complaint if and only if Paragon/NcSoft would not allow subscribers to stack the full game codes onto existing accounts. But, since we can use new account codes (GvE, mac Edition, Architect Edition, CoH collector's edition, CoV Collector's Edition, GR) to add gametime time and old perks to our existing accounts, I don't see why people would even consider the upgrade vs the full.
Going back, it is easy to find the information now on both versions. At the time, the only information I had available was on the pre-purchase version. Yes, looking now - the information was available the month before I made the purchase that there would be a Complete Collection - even this site had a blurb on it and about what it included. If I had seen that, there is no way I would have gone the more expensive route. I resubbed at the start of March, picked up two Super Boosters I did not have, and a couple of days later did the pre-purchase from a link on the website.
Did I delve into the forums before making the purchase? No. Did I research the xpac across the web? No.
I had done pre-orders for CoX before, and they had gone well...and they had gone differently.
The odd part about this particular discussion, though - is that I stated the GR:CC was worth the $40 but that the $30 version of GR was not.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Instead of buying the xpac and going into CoX again I decided to try the trial (given by MMORPG.com) to see what's up.
The new system/content seems to be really good, the 'upgraded' graphics (wish they would reboot CoX to a different engine for extreme graphics, etc) are pretty, especially the day/night feature and advanced shadows.
To make a long story short it felt like CoH on the first couple of months, people everywhere, servers in Red/Yellow Status (Almost full), ultra interaction between players again, it felt good.
Unfortunately after playing 2 years of this game I can't be brought into the hype because it probably will die down in a couple of weeks which is unfortunate but I can't deny that the game is healthy and still has a pretty decent community. Gonna see where GR goes.