FF14 is a game made for special people..i tryed beta and have never seen anything like it..( in a really bad way) the bad reviews and previews coming out are facts..but as we all know theres allways someone that likes it...you must be a die hard Final fantasy fan to be able to play this game.
So how is this game compared to any other game on the market? its a piece of crap IMO
How is this game alone without comparing it to any other mmorpg? its imba, for the die hard FF fans.
FFXI receives all the same complaints from anyone who is trying to get into the game these days, but see the difference is... FFXI was released before World of Warcraft and thus acquired a playerbase that hadn't yet been beaten with the dumbstick, and that playerbase is far more loyal than that of any other AAA MMO currently released or in development.
FFXIV in a post-WoW world is going to be lambasted by the majority of drooling plebeians who are used to glowing yellow exclamation points over anything even remotely of interest. These mental giants scream bloody murder when faced with the prospect of figuring anything out on their own, and god help us all if they run into a game that has no instances and where questing actually is NOT the primary method of advancement.
Don't make excuses for unconventional ways of doing things. They are what they are. If somebody disagrees with the way something is in the game, does not make them incapable of using it. Unwilling? Perhaps. But aren't both important for a healthy thriving game these days? One must be willing and capable. No?
I can play a game and not like things about it. That's ok...and that has nothing to do with WoW.
For example, games like Doom and Wolfenstein came out long before WoW. I learned to aim with a mouse and move with the keyboard a hell of a long time ago...It works and still does in a crap ton of games.
And a question, just what is the primary method of leveling in FFXIV?
Hrmph, I sure didn't think I'd be having this conversation 20 years ago when I booted up Final Fantasy 2 US for the first time.
You booted up the game?
Final Fantasy 2 US is just another name for Final Fantasy 4 and it takes like one second to load the game on your nintendo game console.
I just sort of figured if I wrote "booted up" that whoever read that would figure out it meant, "put the cartridge in the SNES and turned that cartidge on" without getting stuck on symantics. My mistake.
Originally posted by Mellow44
And [Final Fantasy II US] was initally developed for the 8-bit console but it was ported over to the 16-bit and the graphics looked like a 8-bit game as a result of it.
The only really good Final Fantasy games are number 5,6,7,9 and 12.
1-4 looks like a piece of shit and number 8 is too girly about love and crap and 11 is not that good for a MMORPG.
I haven't played number 13 since I don't own a current gen game console but as I understand it people are very disappointed about it in Japan.
Oh and number 10 has a very annoying protagonist hes basically like a retarded spoiled brat.
Well, I suppose you're entitled to your opinion, but the way you're writing seems to demand that subjectiveness does not exist in this world.
Dont post TL:DR rant links from other places here he might as well have posted here and joined the arguement then turn it into article funny I was watching G4 like a week ago and even they got the details wrong
"While our site is still in the midst of being completely redesigned, and we have slowed down considerably during this time, I thought I should still give folks a chance to wrap their heads around my experience with Final Fantasy XIV. Especially before they ran out and laid down money on yet another MMO with the early release looming. In fact, I’m really not going to edit this, I just want to get the word out."
... and I already knew what I was in for. A bunch of subjective drivel riddled with misinformation and disingenuous spin intended to do one thing: turn people - who may enjoy it - away from a MMO because *he* (the reviewer) don't like it.
Could have been any of a number of forum posts around here and achieved the same effect.
He complains about "having to run around for 2 hours to find a crab gobbler"... in the context of complaining that there aren't any mobs to kill. Funny, my friend and I - or just me solo - never had trouble finding mobs to kill. Sure there were other players around, and sure there was some competition for them... Regardless, every expedition I've taken to go find some to fight has yielded results - a small area of them with a steady respawn rate - within 10 minutes, maybe, of running. But then again... if he didn't say "2 hours" he wouldn't be doing his job hysterically exxagerating the situation.
And seriously... "I just had to post this before the launch of the game... even though the site is under construction"... He could have added "It's a matter of life and death!!!" to it and it would have only seemed slightly more pretentious.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
"Then move to Japan. They will have a slight ms lead over you on when a monster spawns, so if you think your guild... er sorry linkshell... is going to get those kills, think again. This was a big problem in Final Fantasy XI. All of the Asian guilds owned because they had the drop being that the servers were in Japan."
Yeah, I remember that in Final Fantasy XI. It sucked having to swallow that fact about asian linkshells and groups camping mobs for hours and days. I remember alot of Asian RMT used to do this for their gil-selling endeavors. Always having the upper hand over us.
I would hope that Square Enix will do something about that in Final Fantasy XIV.
They did something about it in XI... a while ago. They added a delay to the spawn to make up for the "lag" between JP and the US.
Again,another example of someone (the reviewer) taking old news that has long since been addressed and presenting it as current news. Just one of many examples of why his so-called "review" is about as useful as your typical uninformed forum post.
He isn't really interested in reviewing it... that would prompt him to give accurate - or at least better researched information. He has agenda and makes it clear from the outset... he doesn't like the game and so wants to turn others away from it before the game even releases.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
"Then move to Japan. They will have a slight ms lead over you on when a monster spawns, so if you think your guild... er sorry linkshell... is going to get those kills, think again. This was a big problem in Final Fantasy XI. All of the Asian guilds owned because they had the drop being that the servers were in Japan."
Yeah, I remember that in Final Fantasy XI. It sucked having to swallow that fact about asian linkshells and groups camping mobs for hours and days. I remember alot of Asian RMT used to do this for their gil-selling endeavors. Always having the upper hand over us.
I would hope that Square Enix will do something about that in Final Fantasy XIV.
They did something about it in XI... a while ago. They added a delay to the spawn to make up for the "lag" between JP and the US.
Again,another example of someone (the reviewer) taking old news that has long since been addressed and presenting it as current news. Just one of many examples of why his so-called "review" is about as useful as your typical uninformed forum post.
He isn't really interested in reviewing it... that would prompt him to give accurate - or at least better researched information. He has agenda and makes it clear from the outset... he doesn't like the game and so wants to turn others away from it before the game even releases.
There is no competitive spawns in the game anyways, but even in XI this was never a problem on kings or anything. I was in the top HNMls on two different servers and I'm pretty sure we weren't the Japanese.
The people who complained about losing claims to Japanese lost equally to other NA players, they just liked to blame it on that. Though with this issue being completly fixed in XIV this is yet another example of a fabricated issue by people trolling the game.
"Then move to Japan. They will have a slight ms lead over you on when a monster spawns, so if you think your guild... er sorry linkshell... is going to get those kills, think again. This was a big problem in Final Fantasy XI. All of the Asian guilds owned because they had the drop being that the servers were in Japan."
Yeah, I remember that in Final Fantasy XI. It sucked having to swallow that fact about asian linkshells and groups camping mobs for hours and days. I remember alot of Asian RMT used to do this for their gil-selling endeavors. Always having the upper hand over us.
I would hope that Square Enix will do something about that in Final Fantasy XIV.
They did something about it in XI... a while ago. They added a delay to the spawn to make up for the "lag" between JP and the US.
Again,another example of someone (the reviewer) taking old news that has long since been addressed and presenting it as current news. Just one of many examples of why his so-called "review" is about as useful as your typical uninformed forum post.
He isn't really interested in reviewing it... that would prompt him to give accurate - or at least better researched information. He has agenda and makes it clear from the outset... he doesn't like the game and so wants to turn others away from it before the game even releases.
There is no competitive spawns in the game anyways, but even in XI this was never a problem on kings or anything. I was in the top HNMls on two different servers and I'm pretty sure we weren't the Japanese.
The people who complained about losing claims to Japanese lost equally to other NA players, they just liked to blame it on that. Though with this issue being completly fixed in XIV this is yet another example of a fabricated issue by people trolling the game.
Ahh... While I don't question your LS's ability to pull HNMs...
There is validity to the claim. Again, SE did acknowledge it and added a delay in to make up for the latency between JP and US players. I remember for a time there were people stating how HNMs were spawning already claimed on their screens... and every time it was a JP LS who had claimed it.
Even those botting to get claim were being out-claimed because, again, the data was reaching the US players a little bit later than it did the JP players, and it made all the difference in whose bot got claim. I can't help but chuckle at how sad the thought is of computer-controlled scripts competing against other computer controlled scripts to claim a computer controlled mob... But yeah...
Anyway... there is validity to the claim.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
"Then move to Japan. They will have a slight ms lead over you on when a monster spawns, so if you think your guild... er sorry linkshell... is going to get those kills, think again. This was a big problem in Final Fantasy XI. All of the Asian guilds owned because they had the drop being that the servers were in Japan."
Yeah, I remember that in Final Fantasy XI. It sucked having to swallow that fact about asian linkshells and groups camping mobs for hours and days. I remember alot of Asian RMT used to do this for their gil-selling endeavors. Always having the upper hand over us.
I would hope that Square Enix will do something about that in Final Fantasy XIV.
They did something about it in XI... a while ago. They added a delay to the spawn to make up for the "lag" between JP and the US.
Again,another example of someone (the reviewer) taking old news that has long since been addressed and presenting it as current news. Just one of many examples of why his so-called "review" is about as useful as your typical uninformed forum post.
He isn't really interested in reviewing it... that would prompt him to give accurate - or at least better researched information. He has agenda and makes it clear from the outset... he doesn't like the game and so wants to turn others away from it before the game even releases.
There is no competitive spawns in the game anyways, but even in XI this was never a problem on kings or anything. I was in the top HNMls on two different servers and I'm pretty sure we weren't the Japanese.
The people who complained about losing claims to Japanese lost equally to other NA players, they just liked to blame it on that. Though with this issue being completly fixed in XIV this is yet another example of a fabricated issue by people trolling the game.
Ahh... While I don't question your LS's ability to pull HNMs...
There is validity to the claim. Again, SE did acknowledge it and added a delay in to make up for the latency between JP and US players. I remember for a time there were people stating how HNMs were spawning already claimed on their screens... and every time it was a JP LS who had claimed it.
Even those botting to get claim were being out-claimed because, again, the data was reaching the US players a little bit later than it did the JP players, and it made all the difference in whose bot got claim. I can't help but chuckle at how sad the thought is of computer-controlled scripts competing against other computer controlled scripts to claim a computer controlled mob... But yeah...
Anyway... there is validity to the claim.
Based on: people stating it.
The same people who just the claim... S-E included the delay in an effort to make pulling easier for everyone since you could no longer pull before the texture had a chance to load (it is possible to target mobs before their graphics load in pretty much every MMO with contested mobs). It didn't fix the problem entirely, so Square has now decided to remove competed mobs from the game entirely to solve the problem.
The same people who just the claim... S-E included the delay in an effort to make pulling easier for everyone since you could no longer pull before the texture had a chance to load (it is possible to target mobs before their graphics load in pretty much every MMO with contested mobs). It didn't fix the problem entirely, so Square has now decided to remove competed mobs from the game entirely to solve the problem.
Where's the validity or relevance to FFXIV?
No... based on the fact that SE verified it to be an actual issue, so they addressed it. I remember how things were prior to them making the adjustment. I remember things after they made the adjustment. There were articles, discussions, rants, you-name-it all over the place for a while. It was a hot topic across forums and in-game. SE took notice, realized that yes, the complaints were valid, and implemented a fix to level the playing field more.
I'm sure you've noticed, but SE doesn't have a track-record of making changes to their game simply on the back of "people complaining about it". If it's not a valid issue to them, they don't bother.
The relevance to FFXIV is that the "author" related to in the OP makes mention of it in their "review" and so I was addressing it.
No need to get testy about it.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
"If WoW (or any other fucking MMO on the planet for that matter) was a nice relaxing massage by (insert porn star) with a happy ending, Final Fantasy XIV is stabbing your eye out with a rusty screw after inhaling shards of glass through the exhaust pipe of your father’s Lincoln Mercury."
There are definitely some things I agree with the reviewer about. I do like the game, but I don't plan to buy it. It simply isn't PC friendly as I would have expected it to be. Even with the changes coming at release, it still feels very much like a console game.
The reviewer could've simply said "FFXIV sucks, GW2 is better" and still got the same point across, too...
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I'm in agreement to all of the people that say Western gamers are too lazy to read dialoge and having a problem with the game for that reason. I've been playing all the latest Western MMOs too and I found every time I needed help finding something, once I was told I would double check my journals and see that the answer had been right infront of me the whole time. I had just been too lazy and skimmed over the dialoge so fast that I missed the important info.
Edit: Just wanted to note that I don't mean ALL western gamers when I say that. Just a large amount.
The game is incomplete, but I think it has it's positive side. I'm more or less desperate for something new and different in terms of MMORPGs. I doubt reviews of this game will impact it's community, simply because everyone and their mom who was interested in the game got a good taste from the open beta. HOWEVER, what WILL sway my decision is whether or not they fix the engine and the mouse hardware. The game is pretty, but it's not pretty enough to run poorly on any PC developed in the last 2 years or so. It's not even like this game drains a lot from the CPU or GPU, cause it doesn't, it just runs poorly while using max resources. Poor optimization, worse than AoC at it's launch.
it uses 100% gpu and the cpu it depends on the tier it is in my 940 gets 20 fps in crowded areas well 20-25. my friend in the linkshell im in gets 40-60 in crowded areas witha 965 BEsame gfx card
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Final Fantasy 1 was fucking epic when it came out.
I still think it is epic, the original mind you, the remakes are easy-mode BS....Chaos is a joke to defeat now!
Sorry to jump in here but I just couldn't not do so.
Your signature. It's wrong. I mean, I take it you're trying to quote from Blade Runner but you've misquoted.
You wrote:
All those memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
When it's actually:
All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_saUN4j7Gw and the speech @ 2:50 will confirm this.
Please amend for the sake of this amazing film.
I'll agree with this 100%. A great game that started me on the 'need for RPG'!
I find it humerous that people expected FF XIV to be something other than what it is. An Asian console based MMO ported to the PC.
FF14 is a game made for special people..i tryed beta and have never seen anything like it..( in a really bad way) the bad reviews and previews coming out are facts..but as we all know theres allways someone that likes it...you must be a die hard Final fantasy fan to be able to play this game.
So how is this game compared to any other game on the market? its a piece of crap IMO
How is this game alone without comparing it to any other mmorpg? its imba, for the die hard FF fans.
Don't make excuses for unconventional ways of doing things. They are what they are. If somebody disagrees with the way something is in the game, does not make them incapable of using it. Unwilling? Perhaps. But aren't both important for a healthy thriving game these days? One must be willing and capable. No?
I can play a game and not like things about it. That's ok...and that has nothing to do with WoW.
For example, games like Doom and Wolfenstein came out long before WoW. I learned to aim with a mouse and move with the keyboard a hell of a long time ago...It works and still does in a crap ton of games.
And a question, just what is the primary method of leveling in FFXIV?
Cool this means I have my own version
All those memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
I just sort of figured if I wrote "booted up" that whoever read that would figure out it meant, "put the cartridge in the SNES and turned that cartidge on" without getting stuck on symantics. My mistake.
Well, I suppose you're entitled to your opinion, but the way you're writing seems to demand that subjectiveness does not exist in this world.
Dont post TL:DR rant links from other places here he might as well have posted here and joined the arguement then turn it into article funny I was watching G4 like a week ago and even they got the details wrong
All I had to read was this opening bit...
"While our site is still in the midst of being completely redesigned, and we have slowed down considerably during this time, I thought I should still give folks a chance to wrap their heads around my experience with Final Fantasy XIV. Especially before they ran out and laid down money on yet another MMO with the early release looming. In fact, I’m really not going to edit this, I just want to get the word out."
... and I already knew what I was in for. A bunch of subjective drivel riddled with misinformation and disingenuous spin intended to do one thing: turn people - who may enjoy it - away from a MMO because *he* (the reviewer) don't like it.
Could have been any of a number of forum posts around here and achieved the same effect.
He complains about "having to run around for 2 hours to find a crab gobbler"... in the context of complaining that there aren't any mobs to kill. Funny, my friend and I - or just me solo - never had trouble finding mobs to kill. Sure there were other players around, and sure there was some competition for them... Regardless, every expedition I've taken to go find some to fight has yielded results - a small area of them with a steady respawn rate - within 10 minutes, maybe, of running. But then again... if he didn't say "2 hours" he wouldn't be doing his job hysterically exxagerating the situation.
And seriously... "I just had to post this before the launch of the game... even though the site is under construction"... He could have added "It's a matter of life and death!!!" to it and it would have only seemed slightly more pretentious.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
They did something about it in XI... a while ago. They added a delay to the spawn to make up for the "lag" between JP and the US.
Again,another example of someone (the reviewer) taking old news that has long since been addressed and presenting it as current news. Just one of many examples of why his so-called "review" is about as useful as your typical uninformed forum post.
He isn't really interested in reviewing it... that would prompt him to give accurate - or at least better researched information. He has agenda and makes it clear from the outset... he doesn't like the game and so wants to turn others away from it before the game even releases.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Subjectiveness
judgement based on individual personal impressions and feelings and opinions rather than external facts
I really don't understand what you are trying to say.
All those memories will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
There is no competitive spawns in the game anyways, but even in XI this was never a problem on kings or anything. I was in the top HNMls on two different servers and I'm pretty sure we weren't the Japanese.
The people who complained about losing claims to Japanese lost equally to other NA players, they just liked to blame it on that. Though with this issue being completly fixed in XIV this is yet another example of a fabricated issue by people trolling the game.
http://xivpads.com/?1595680
http://guildwork.com/users/murugan
Ahh... While I don't question your LS's ability to pull HNMs...
There is validity to the claim. Again, SE did acknowledge it and added a delay in to make up for the latency between JP and US players. I remember for a time there were people stating how HNMs were spawning already claimed on their screens... and every time it was a JP LS who had claimed it.
Even those botting to get claim were being out-claimed because, again, the data was reaching the US players a little bit later than it did the JP players, and it made all the difference in whose bot got claim. I can't help but chuckle at how sad the thought is of computer-controlled scripts competing against other computer controlled scripts to claim a computer controlled mob... But yeah...
Anyway... there is validity to the claim.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Based on: people stating it.
The same people who just the claim... S-E included the delay in an effort to make pulling easier for everyone since you could no longer pull before the texture had a chance to load (it is possible to target mobs before their graphics load in pretty much every MMO with contested mobs). It didn't fix the problem entirely, so Square has now decided to remove competed mobs from the game entirely to solve the problem.
Where's the validity or relevance to FFXIV?
http://xivpads.com/?1595680
http://guildwork.com/users/murugan
No... based on the fact that SE verified it to be an actual issue, so they addressed it. I remember how things were prior to them making the adjustment. I remember things after they made the adjustment. There were articles, discussions, rants, you-name-it all over the place for a while. It was a hot topic across forums and in-game. SE took notice, realized that yes, the complaints were valid, and implemented a fix to level the playing field more.
I'm sure you've noticed, but SE doesn't have a track-record of making changes to their game simply on the back of "people complaining about it". If it's not a valid issue to them, they don't bother.
The relevance to FFXIV is that the "author" related to in the OP makes mention of it in their "review" and so I was addressing it.
No need to get testy about it.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
"If WoW (or any other fucking MMO on the planet for that matter) was a nice relaxing massage by (insert porn star) with a happy ending, Final Fantasy XIV is stabbing your eye out with a rusty screw after inhaling shards of glass through the exhaust pipe of your father’s Lincoln Mercury."
LOL
you said........ testy
There are definitely some things I agree with the reviewer about. I do like the game, but I don't plan to buy it. It simply isn't PC friendly as I would have expected it to be. Even with the changes coming at release, it still feels very much like a console game.
The reviewer could've simply said "FFXIV sucks, GW2 is better" and still got the same point across, too...
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and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I'm in agreement to all of the people that say Western gamers are too lazy to read dialoge and having a problem with the game for that reason. I've been playing all the latest Western MMOs too and I found every time I needed help finding something, once I was told I would double check my journals and see that the answer had been right infront of me the whole time. I had just been too lazy and skimmed over the dialoge so fast that I missed the important info.
Edit: Just wanted to note that I don't mean ALL western gamers when I say that. Just a large amount.
ignoring 11 because it was a MMO
Here my order of "best" numbered FF games 1st one being the best
6, 8, 7, 4, and 10
Didn't play 1, 2, 3, 5, or 9
10-2 had a awfull story, and 12's combat system sucked ass... never beat them for the reasons stated
13 I have mixed feelings toward because it was just ok.. ok story with ok gameplay... just too linear for the bulk of the game.
it uses 100% gpu and the cpu it depends on the tier it is in my 940 gets 20 fps in crowded areas well 20-25. my friend in the linkshell im in gets 40-60 in crowded areas witha 965 BEsame gfx card
940 is tier 3 cpu 965 is tier 2
IT WASNT ported