It was a toss up for my Main and Alt. But I have to go with the class that as soon as it was announced, I said, yeah, that'll be my first, which is the Smuggler... most likely Gunslinger. My alt will be the Consular, and Wizard for Healing.
I'm not sure when I'll move onto the Sith Empire....Probably when the sides balance out more. All throughout different Forums, it seems to be the side of choice for many, so I'll stick with Republic for a while first before trying the other side.
Would love to hear more of your experiences, Harvest151
I understand you played on PAX or the Gamescom? What classes did you play? How did the combat feel like? Did you play on Hutta?
And can you find yourself agreeing with the impressions report that another demo player made? (look here)
I was at E3 and Pax. The impressions I got were very similar. I got to play on Korriban, Hutta, and briefly Ord Mantel. My experiences were very very similar to that cited by the player in the other post. Not only was combat very fast and seemless, the UI was very snappy and responsive (which for me at least is a make or break deal). You can sit down and feel comfortable right off the bat if your are an experienced WSAD player. The class I enjoyed the most hands down was the inquisitor, but im a sucker for the story. The powers were lacking at the lower levels and with no Area attacks, pulls were a bit more cautious than say, the BH where I had multiple forms of multi-enemy attacks. I really wanted to give the Agent a go, but by the time I finished with the BH, the line was so long I could has possibly starved to death trying to find the end of it.
I VERY much enjoyed it. Hutta was a nasty, seedy, jungle-like planet full of gas, obscured vision, and scum. The NPC's were all shady and shifty. It fit perfectly. You really got the feel that the empire and republic had very minimal presence there, and there were other forced at work. If you looked closely you could imagine how wonderful and lush the planet might have been at one time, but with the hutts in charge it had sunk into a cesspit of "scum and villiany" without doubt. Casinos, pleasure palaces, pubs, all were about.
The troopers story (what I got to see of it) was not nearly as inspired, but interesting and fun none the less. There is a particular feel to just flat out gunning mobs down like jessee ventura in predator. Overall it was imo fantastic. What the other guy said about some of the animations seeming stiff was true. There were some aspects that seemed "untweaked" like hand placement while running, leg animations, jumping, and strafing. One thing I did take special note of. Your Head.
Seriously. The players head turns and moves very very natrually. Not just when targeting. As you run by hostil npc's or even standing still, as aggro begins to build (and yes, it's not BOOM! ATTACK!, they notice you at certain ranges, get defensive, then as you get closer they assume a hostile stance, and then fianlly full out attack) you head will turn to focus on potential threats, you will look back and forth as if you are sizing up potential tagets, with those enemies that have taken notice of you being prioritized. There is also some stragey involved. Some enemies have knockdowns (at level 3-5ish) and will close in on you and attempt to surround you. You have to prioritize the deadliest and most likely to incapacitate you first, or you can find yourself sorely pressed very quickly. With the BH I had no problem with packs of 3-4 but with the inquisitor it was a much different feel. The global cooldowns on the Inquisitors abilities seemed a bit longish, where many times I was standing around waiting on abilities to refresh, bot most attacks from him were 1-2 shot kills. The BH on the other hands was a flurry of pain. Blasters firing, rockets, and flamethrowers going off. You hardly noticed the cooldowns at all. The downside to the BH is heat buildup. You weapons generate "heat" which in sustained combat must be vented through your armor. IT was a unique mechainc and added a layer of priority and strategy The trooper (very brief experince) used what I can only compare to a WoW rage mechanic, just think ammo. The abilites had quick cooldowns, but they are ammo based. You have several quick relaod type abilities and a channeled full reload which pretty much opens up even your heaviest attacks, but at increasing ammo cost. You could also self buff (similar to the agent's "Laze Target") powering up your weapon for increased damage at increased ammo expenditure cost. (That might not be right, but while charged up my weapon did seem to use ammo faster). If the troopers AC options have to choice to spec a pure dps role, I can see him being an aoe/single target dps beast down the road. Thinking Plasma Gatling gun or heavy assault rifle type class, but I didn't get that far (no one did). Overall each class felt very unique and different. You simply could not play and inquisitor the same was as a BH, and vice versa.
I wish I had the opportunity to play a jedi knight, but I did'nt. The only thing I really missed out on was the smuggler/agent. I really wanted to play around with the cover mechanics, but once again, didnt get the chance.
I hope this helps ya get a second hand feel for how it was. You want a TLDR version?> I loved it so f'in much I will be pre-ordering the collectors should they decide to release one (even though I swore after Aion I would never do that again) but after having seen the game and played it alomost a year before it comes out, I can say with no reservations this game will be a resounding success. All the people estimating under 1mill subs and them struggling to get the numbers they need are GROSSLY underestimating BioWare, EA, and their marketing and sales potential. Was it as polished as a 5 year old mmo that has undergone 1000 patches? Hell no. But to date it is the most polished, well done thing I have ever seen. If they released it right this second there is no mmo in the past 5 years that launced that even compares to the level of detail and polish already in game, and I'm including AoC, STO, Aion, etc in that statement. It felt above and beyond many games I have actually paid subscriptions for, that have been out for some time. People are worried about funding from EA especially with the APB fiasco. Don't worry about that at ALL. 2 things to remember. 1: This is EA/BW's flagship game. They are fully and totally comitted to it, 300%. and 2: Ray Mazuyak is not only the CEO of BioWare, he is the VP of EA. He is the guy who makes those decisions to a large degree. And he is also a RABID starwars fan. Is it going to kill wow? Hell no. But watch out blizzard, some serious no bullshit, dedicated, creative, gaming geniuses just moved into your neighborhhod, and you're not gonna run them off by stealing their shit like you did with WAR.
Very nice to see such a wide variety of results out of 150+ votes. Looks like each class will be played, smuggler all the way here. As far as alts go, I couldn't say, maybe all at some point considering each has a unique story.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Sith warrior then BH. I played a good guy in SWG this time around I'm going evil. Then again that depends on from who's perspective you look at it from
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums: Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Wanted to start a similar thread but there is already this nice poll and it could use some more folks voting.
I'm curious about how faction population balance will pan out. Kotormmo.net has a poll with similar results showing a tendency for the Empire outnumbering the Republic by quite a large percentage. Could this be a problem for example, pvp servers? Lore wise it would be fine for the "evil doers" to outnumber the good guys I guess
Also plan to experiment with just about every class a least a little.
Ahhh Inquisitor is looking very popular, at least I decided on Inquisitor a long time before I looked like it was going to be this popular. Then again, this poll doesn't mean too much overall. Going by the traffic in the class section on the main forums, inquisitor is average in popularity overall..
Completely undecided at this point. All I know is that I am leaning toward a Jedi for my main.
I'm sure I fall within the majority, but I can't resist a storyline with a lightsaber and the ever-present difficult decisions a Force user must make. I've always found the dark side in video games too plain and "just do the meanest thing" for my tastes.
Though with that being said, I am a strong believer in using passion to dictate my actions or manipulate the actions of others in real life, so perhaps I am better suited a Sith. I just am doubtful the storyline will paint me as anything other than evil, no matter the decisions I make.
You should take a good hard look at Bioware games. They are infamous with how they paint both perceptions of absolute light and dark with a good mixture of gray. Either side you pick will most likely be extremely compelling on the moral side.
I might go Republic if the Empire side will feel too "dumb-grim" but that I dont know yet. Being on the dark / darker side in a game is always fun for me if it's not dark-and-dumb like some games.
I know that we can only work with what Bioware has seen fit to put in its game but I wish they'd added more professions to the mix:
Teras Kasi Artist
Nightsister
Hutt Enforcer
Pod-Racer
Starship Builder...
,,,would all have been great.
Nighsister wouldn't make any sense. Nighsisters are basically exiled Dathomir witches. Dathomir witches formed around 600 BBY. So around 3,643 BBY when SWTOR takes place, they don't even exist yet.
Also, Teras Kasi is sketchy, the art was only created 30-40 years prior to the events in SWTOR, meaning that it would be incredibly sparce, and only a few people would know it.
I'm completely undecided... But I notice that many here are interested in being Sith, with a BH alt. I might have to go with Jedi, with a Smuggler alt. Just to promote some balance.
I think my main will be a Jedi Knight with my alt being a Bounty Hunter. But I'm not sure. I'll probably try to play through them all, eventually. I'm interested in seeing the Sith side of things.
I'm gonna start off as a Chiss Imperial Agent. Which means empire. Then i might move over to Sith warrior. Then maybe a jedi consular.
I never pictured you as being "evil" with all your helpfull posts here.
I'll be going Jedi Knight Sentinel with a smuggler scoundrel alt.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them? R.A.Salvatore
I have not decided what race I will be yet, but I will probably be starting off as a Jedi Consular. Mostly because the Guild I will most likely be joining is Republic though. If they make a mirror Guild for the Empire though, I have NO idea what class I will be playing.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I'm gonna start off as a Chiss Imperial Agent. Which means empire. Then i might move over to Sith warrior. Then maybe a jedi consular.
I never pictured you as being "evil" with all your helpfull posts here.
I'll be going Jedi Knight Sentinel with a smuggler scoundrel alt.
I'm both actually, i'm the epitome of two faced (one good one evil) Just depends on which side becomes more powerful and takes over. Kinda like Jade empire with wild flower. Two sides consisting conflicting with each other, Hence the avatar picture.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
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It was a toss up for my Main and Alt. But I have to go with the class that as soon as it was announced, I said, yeah, that'll be my first, which is the Smuggler... most likely Gunslinger. My alt will be the Consular, and Wizard for Healing.
I'm not sure when I'll move onto the Sith Empire....Probably when the sides balance out more. All throughout different Forums, it seems to be the side of choice for many, so I'll stick with Republic for a while first before trying the other side.
I wanna be a sneaky Imperial Agent! Sounds like a fun class to me!
I was at E3 and Pax. The impressions I got were very similar. I got to play on Korriban, Hutta, and briefly Ord Mantel. My experiences were very very similar to that cited by the player in the other post. Not only was combat very fast and seemless, the UI was very snappy and responsive (which for me at least is a make or break deal). You can sit down and feel comfortable right off the bat if your are an experienced WSAD player. The class I enjoyed the most hands down was the inquisitor, but im a sucker for the story. The powers were lacking at the lower levels and with no Area attacks, pulls were a bit more cautious than say, the BH where I had multiple forms of multi-enemy attacks. I really wanted to give the Agent a go, but by the time I finished with the BH, the line was so long I could has possibly starved to death trying to find the end of it.
I VERY much enjoyed it. Hutta was a nasty, seedy, jungle-like planet full of gas, obscured vision, and scum. The NPC's were all shady and shifty. It fit perfectly. You really got the feel that the empire and republic had very minimal presence there, and there were other forced at work. If you looked closely you could imagine how wonderful and lush the planet might have been at one time, but with the hutts in charge it had sunk into a cesspit of "scum and villiany" without doubt. Casinos, pleasure palaces, pubs, all were about.
The troopers story (what I got to see of it) was not nearly as inspired, but interesting and fun none the less. There is a particular feel to just flat out gunning mobs down like jessee ventura in predator. Overall it was imo fantastic. What the other guy said about some of the animations seeming stiff was true. There were some aspects that seemed "untweaked" like hand placement while running, leg animations, jumping, and strafing. One thing I did take special note of. Your Head.
Seriously. The players head turns and moves very very natrually. Not just when targeting. As you run by hostil npc's or even standing still, as aggro begins to build (and yes, it's not BOOM! ATTACK!, they notice you at certain ranges, get defensive, then as you get closer they assume a hostile stance, and then fianlly full out attack) you head will turn to focus on potential threats, you will look back and forth as if you are sizing up potential tagets, with those enemies that have taken notice of you being prioritized. There is also some stragey involved. Some enemies have knockdowns (at level 3-5ish) and will close in on you and attempt to surround you. You have to prioritize the deadliest and most likely to incapacitate you first, or you can find yourself sorely pressed very quickly. With the BH I had no problem with packs of 3-4 but with the inquisitor it was a much different feel. The global cooldowns on the Inquisitors abilities seemed a bit longish, where many times I was standing around waiting on abilities to refresh, bot most attacks from him were 1-2 shot kills. The BH on the other hands was a flurry of pain. Blasters firing, rockets, and flamethrowers going off. You hardly noticed the cooldowns at all. The downside to the BH is heat buildup. You weapons generate "heat" which in sustained combat must be vented through your armor. IT was a unique mechainc and added a layer of priority and strategy The trooper (very brief experince) used what I can only compare to a WoW rage mechanic, just think ammo. The abilites had quick cooldowns, but they are ammo based. You have several quick relaod type abilities and a channeled full reload which pretty much opens up even your heaviest attacks, but at increasing ammo cost. You could also self buff (similar to the agent's "Laze Target") powering up your weapon for increased damage at increased ammo expenditure cost. (That might not be right, but while charged up my weapon did seem to use ammo faster). If the troopers AC options have to choice to spec a pure dps role, I can see him being an aoe/single target dps beast down the road. Thinking Plasma Gatling gun or heavy assault rifle type class, but I didn't get that far (no one did). Overall each class felt very unique and different. You simply could not play and inquisitor the same was as a BH, and vice versa.
I wish I had the opportunity to play a jedi knight, but I did'nt. The only thing I really missed out on was the smuggler/agent. I really wanted to play around with the cover mechanics, but once again, didnt get the chance.
I hope this helps ya get a second hand feel for how it was. You want a TLDR version?> I loved it so f'in much I will be pre-ordering the collectors should they decide to release one (even though I swore after Aion I would never do that again) but after having seen the game and played it alomost a year before it comes out, I can say with no reservations this game will be a resounding success. All the people estimating under 1mill subs and them struggling to get the numbers they need are GROSSLY underestimating BioWare, EA, and their marketing and sales potential. Was it as polished as a 5 year old mmo that has undergone 1000 patches? Hell no. But to date it is the most polished, well done thing I have ever seen. If they released it right this second there is no mmo in the past 5 years that launced that even compares to the level of detail and polish already in game, and I'm including AoC, STO, Aion, etc in that statement. It felt above and beyond many games I have actually paid subscriptions for, that have been out for some time. People are worried about funding from EA especially with the APB fiasco. Don't worry about that at ALL. 2 things to remember. 1: This is EA/BW's flagship game. They are fully and totally comitted to it, 300%. and 2: Ray Mazuyak is not only the CEO of BioWare, he is the VP of EA. He is the guy who makes those decisions to a large degree. And he is also a RABID starwars fan. Is it going to kill wow? Hell no. But watch out blizzard, some serious no bullshit, dedicated, creative, gaming geniuses just moved into your neighborhhod, and you're not gonna run them off by stealing their shit like you did with WAR.
Very nice to see such a wide variety of results out of 150+ votes. Looks like each class will be played, smuggler all the way here. As far as alts go, I couldn't say, maybe all at some point considering each has a unique story.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Sith warrior then BH. I played a good guy in SWG this time around I'm going evil. Then again that depends on from who's perspective you look at it from
@harvest151: cool, appreciate the elaboration
Hope you don't mind, I will copy them over to the other demo play impressions posts.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
Bump.
Wanted to start a similar thread but there is already this nice poll and it could use some more folks voting.
I'm curious about how faction population balance will pan out. Kotormmo.net has a poll with similar results showing a tendency for the Empire outnumbering the Republic by quite a large percentage. Could this be a problem for example, pvp servers? Lore wise it would be fine for the "evil doers" to outnumber the good guys I guess
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Main : Sith Warrior(Juggernaut)
Alt: Bounty Hunter (undecided)
Can't decide whether I want my hunter to be another tank or go long range DPS.
Currently Playing: World of Warcraft
Main: Jedi Knight
Alt: Trooper, Bounty Hunter, or Jedi Consular
I would also like to try Sith Warrior/Sith Inquisitor but not sure how far I'll get with so many alts.
Inquisitor main
Trooper alt.
Also plan to experiment with just about every class a least a little.
Ahhh Inquisitor is looking very popular, at least I decided on Inquisitor a long time before I looked like it was going to be this popular. Then again, this poll doesn't mean too much overall. Going by the traffic in the class section on the main forums, inquisitor is average in popularity overall..
You should take a good hard look at Bioware games. They are infamous with how they paint both perceptions of absolute light and dark with a good mixture of gray. Either side you pick will most likely be extremely compelling on the moral side.
Sith Marauder for practical / main.
Undecided Imperial Agent for RP / alt.
I might go Republic if the Empire side will feel too "dumb-grim" but that I dont know yet. Being on the dark / darker side in a game is always fun for me if it's not dark-and-dumb like some games.
Nighsister wouldn't make any sense. Nighsisters are basically exiled Dathomir witches. Dathomir witches formed around 600 BBY. So around 3,643 BBY when SWTOR takes place, they don't even exist yet.
Also, Teras Kasi is sketchy, the art was only created 30-40 years prior to the events in SWTOR, meaning that it would be incredibly sparce, and only a few people would know it.
I'm completely undecided... But I notice that many here are interested in being Sith, with a BH alt. I might have to go with Jedi, with a Smuggler alt. Just to promote some balance.
I think my main will be a Jedi Knight with my alt being a Bounty Hunter. But I'm not sure. I'll probably try to play through them all, eventually. I'm interested in seeing the Sith side of things.
1. Trooper
2. Bounty Hunter or Smuggler
last I'm also and alt whore so I could one day make an imperial agent and he magically becomes my main.
I'm gonna start off as a Chiss Imperial Agent. Which means empire. Then i might move over to Sith warrior. Then maybe a jedi consular.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I never pictured you as being "evil" with all your helpfull posts here.
I'll be going Jedi Knight Sentinel with a smuggler scoundrel alt.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder, without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better, and not the world about them?
R.A.Salvatore
1. Smuggler
2.Bounty Hunter
If I do end up playing, probably Empire if not only for the Sniper class. Gotta love dem rifles.
BH - DPS spec'd
Sith Warrior - Marauder spec
I have not decided what race I will be yet, but I will probably be starting off as a Jedi Consular. Mostly because the Guild I will most likely be joining is Republic though. If they make a mirror Guild for the Empire though, I have NO idea what class I will be playing.
"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"
I'm both actually, i'm the epitome of two faced (one good one evil) Just depends on which side becomes more powerful and takes over. Kinda like Jade empire with wild flower. Two sides consisting conflicting with each other, Hence the avatar picture.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I can't vote
. A powerful Sith Warrior I shall become! Twisted by the darkside. Probably a trueblood or if they allow it Chiss.
In Bioware we trust!
Galactic Empire before all...
I will playing a BH main, with an Imperial Agent alt. No glowsticks for this guy.