DCUO delayed until Jan. 3, 2011

komarr

I just got back from my local Gamestop.  Their ordering system currently has DCUO, both PC and PS3 listed with a release date of Jan. 3, 2011.

Waldoe

True or not. How many times does it need to be discussed that places like Gamestop and Amazon know nothing about release dates for games. They do not magically hear something that the public does not get wind of. It does not work that way at all.

Yamota

Reasonable, I guess, since so little information has been released about the game.

Priestr

i hope its not true, i was looking foreward getting dcuo next month -.-

MMOrUS

Originally posted by komarr

I just got back from my local Gamestop.  Their ordering system currently has DCUO, both PC and PS3 listed with a release date of Jan. 3, 2011.

 CONFIRMED.......

Yes folks it's absolutely true.

Gamestop and Amazon have no clue when the game is getting released

 

Hehe.

 

maskedweasel

This is incorrect,  I checked with Gamestop a few weeks ago and they had the same date.  Just released last week they put out another developer interview stating the same Nov. 2 release date.  If somehow DCUO does push back to Jan 3. 2011 then they knew it well before SOE did.

 

adam_nox

Originally posted by Waldoe

True or not. How many times does it need to be discussed that places like Gamestop and Amazon know nothing about release dates for games. They do not magically hear something that the public does not get wind of. It does not work that way at all.

Not true.

While you cannot use retailers as a source of a release date when a game has not yet announced ANY release date and is more than a couple months from release, it's a different story when the game is less than two months from release and retailers change their ship dates.  They DO get delay information before anyone else does.

That being said, if there's no online source for this date change, then there's also no proof.  gamestop isn't showing any date, and amazon still shows nov 2nd.

Kenrich

theres always Fallout New Vegas 

zaylin

Steam,Wal mart,Target,Best Buy,Frys,GoGamer.com,even amazon still has it as November release. Game stops page FOR DCUO was "Our server was unable to process your request". So dont bite when leaky info is published like people said nothings official til DCUO/SOE says something.

Loke666

Is it possible that SOE finally learned their lesson and wait with the game until it actually is ready for the release instead of doing what they did with every game I know? I hope so.

Vercin

You should work for CNN or a big newspaper.

Always start with a big headline that has keywords that will draw attention, but not have any actual SOLID evidence.

THIS JUST IN! DCUO DELAYED UNTIL JAN 3,2011......or at least that is what one retailer reports.

warmaster670

Originally posted by Loke666

Is it possible that SOE finally learned their lesson and wait with the game until it actually is ready for the release instead of doing what they did with every game I know? I hope so.

You misspelled every mmo company as SOE.

Jak_Torlin

Goodness I hope they learned their lesson... five years is a LONG time to make a game.  I hope they ironed out most of the kinks.

azrael466

i find it funny the main arguement against it coming out on time is "well, they dont have any information out!"

does no one stop to think, maybe they -want- to keep it under the rader? now, dont get me wrong. its kind of a dumb move to. but lets face it, MMOs are kind of a niche market, super hero MMOs even more so, thats one reason i dont think this will be hugely successful like WoW, because WoW has a mass appeal about it, this probably will not.

however, one thing about a niche market is, most fans who already want to know about it, probably already do. either from word of mouth or just a few internet searches. while this could not be the reason, and i doubt it is considering i have absolutely no knowlage of marketing.

 

 

..they could just want this game to seem like it came out of no where, ya know? not much advertising save for comiccons and video game conventions then it hits the streets and BLAM! ads 4 times an hour on every channel

komarr

Originally posted by azrael466

i find it funny the main arguement against it coming out on time is "well, they dont have any information out!"

does no one stop to think, maybe they -want- to keep it under the rader? now, dont get me wrong. its kind of a dumb move to. but lets face it, MMOs are kind of a niche market, super hero MMOs even more so, thats one reason i dont think this will be hugely successful like WoW, because WoW has a mass appeal about it, this probably will not.

however, one thing about a niche market is, most fans who already want to know about it, probably already do. either from word of mouth or just a few internet searches. while this could not be the reason, and i doubt it is considering i have absolutely no knowlage of marketing.

 

 

..they could just want this game to seem like it came out of no where, ya know? not much advertising save for comiccons and video game conventions then it hits the streets and BLAM! ads 4 times an hour on every channel

 No offense, but your statement makes no sense.  Look at any form of entertainment you want, particularly those  that are up-front, one time purchases, like games, movies, or books.  They all use advance advertising and information to build interest for Day 1 sales.  First, they want to see some return on their investment asap.  Second, and perhaps more importantly in this day and age, they want folks to buy before reviews start coming out.  Because some folks who mignt be on the fence won't buy it if they read a negative review.  And let's face it, you could craft the best game or movie ever in the history of the world, and someone somewhere will still find something to gripe about and will post it on their blog or on a forum like this one.

Finally, even if someone were to want to do some form of guerilla advertising/release for their game, it's not going to be a large corporation like Sony.  They have the money for tons of advertising and most large corporations tend to shy away from truly new or risky concepts.

azrael466

Originally posted by komarr

Originally posted by azrael466

i find it funny the main arguement against it coming out on time is "well, they dont have any information out!"

does no one stop to think, maybe they -want- to keep it under the rader? now, dont get me wrong. its kind of a dumb move to. but lets face it, MMOs are kind of a niche market, super hero MMOs even more so, thats one reason i dont think this will be hugely successful like WoW, because WoW has a mass appeal about it, this probably will not.

however, one thing about a niche market is, most fans who already want to know about it, probably already do. either from word of mouth or just a few internet searches. while this could not be the reason, and i doubt it is considering i have absolutely no knowlage of marketing.

 

 

..they could just want this game to seem like it came out of no where, ya know? not much advertising save for comiccons and video game conventions then it hits the streets and BLAM! ads 4 times an hour on every channel

 No offense, but your statement makes no sense.  Look at any form of entertainment you want, particularly those  that are up-front, one time purchases, like games, movies, or books.  They all use advance advertising and information to build interest for Day 1 sales.  First, they want to see some return on their investment asap.  Second, and perhaps more importantly in this day and age, they want folks to buy before reviews start coming out.  Because some folks who mignt be on the fence won't buy it if they read a negative review.  And let's face it, you could craft the best game or movie ever in the history of the world, and someone somewhere will still find something to gripe about and will post it on their blog or on a forum like this one.

Finally, even if someone were to want to do some form of guerilla advertising/release for their game, it's not going to be a large corporation like Sony.  They have the money for tons of advertising and most large corporations tend to shy away from truly new or risky concepts.

 i dont disagree with you, and as i said myself, i probably am wrong. its just kind of a weak arguement saying "they havn't force fed us information so the game is going to be delayed, and if its not, its going to suck"

komarr

I'm not saying lack of information = bad game just to be cranky.  Historically, MMO's that have released very little information prior a scheduled release date seem to do so because they don't have the game ready, which means either a delay or an on time release of a bad game.  In particular they haven't (formally) released basics like system requirements yet.

Other folks have said that in an interview one of the devs said that the system reqs are the same as the Unreal 3 engine, which is being used for DCUO.  And yes, you can look up those stats.  But let's face it, this game is not (or at least shouldn't be) aiming for just a niche audience.  When little Timmy says "mom I want this game with Superman in it", Mom may not know what the Unreal 3 engine is, or where to find it's stats.  Basic marketing says to make it easy and clear for potential customers to see what they need to use the product.

maskedweasel

Originally posted by komarr

I'm not saying lack of information = bad game just to be cranky.  Historically, MMO's that have released very little information prior a scheduled release date seem to do so because they don't have the game ready, which means either a delay or an on time release of a bad game.  In particular they haven't (formally) released basics like system requirements yet.

Other folks have said that in an interview one of the devs said that the system reqs are the same as the Unreal 3 engine, which is being used for DCUO.  And yes, you can look up those stats.  But let's face it, this game is not (or at least shouldn't be) aiming for just a niche audience.  When little Timmy says "mom I want this game with Superman in it", Mom may not know what the Unreal 3 engine is, or where to find it's stats.  Basic marketing says to make it easy and clear for potential customers to see what they need to use the product.

The basic system requirements originally were as stated by the developers in an interview,  if your PC can run the unreal 3 engine,  you can run DCUO.  More importantly they've released minimum specifications to retailers.  

 

This game is being marketed to, what appears to be, the mainstream comic book fan,  not the younger audience.  Most of the information on this game you can find on Facebook, Twitter, or offshoot MMO sites like Massively, MMORPG.com and of course, dedicated sites like DCUOSource.

 

There is NO delay scheduled,  and no,  that does not mean the game will release unfinished.  There is no major lack of information,  just no easy place to obtain the information.   There is a lot we DO know about the game,  but you can't just go to SOEs site on DCUO and find this information readily.   Maybe this is their attempt at viral marketing?

 

NYCC is going to be the last, and biggest set of reveals for DCUO, so all who are interested, pay close attention.

 

You can view the Press schedule here on what the developers will be revealing and when.  

 

The main questions people have over the game right now are:

1) Whats character creation like?

2) Wheres Beta?

3) What are the finalized power sets in this game?

 

All of which will be addressed come NYCC.  

stamps79

Gamestop and any other retail company will post guesses to fill in the gaps, to get pre-orders setup, they want money, they want you to hope.

Even if DCUO is pushed to late early 2011, I know I'm sad about that, but you know what, it's an MMO. I will take this as a good thing, because I want Sony to be ready to release this with fewer issue, then patches and patches to fix them.

 

November 2nd 2010 is also the GW2 pretend launch date. ( which I do  wish it is the launch date)

 

Until the Publisher or Developer give an actual release date, it's just a guess.

zaylin

The main questions people have over the game right now are:

1) Whats character creation like?

2) Wheres Beta?

3) What are the finalized power sets in this game?

 

All of which will be addressed come NYCC.  

YEP 1&3 are #1 on my list. Beta not so much, if they are doing  private/closed doors beta im ok with it. Ive been in enough betas to see people treat it more like a free ride ,than actually helping the development/testing of it...IE reporting bugs,being active on the forums and such,and then just bitch about the bugs.

Whats the difference between doing a Public Closed Beta with 2k people or a Private Closed Beta with 2k people? (number of people are just for example).

Daffid011

Originally posted by maskedweasel

[1] The basic system requirements originally were as stated by the developers in an interview,  if your PC can run the unreal 3 engine,  you can run DCUO.  More importantly they've released minimum specifications to retailers.  

 

[2] This game is being marketed to, what appears to be, the mainstream comic book fan,  not the younger audience.  Most of the information on this game you can find on Facebook, Twitter, or offshoot MMO sites like Massively, MMORPG.com and of course, dedicated sites like DCUOSource.

 

There is NO delay scheduled,  and no,  that does not mean the game will release unfinished.  There is no major lack of information,  just no easy place to obtain the information.   There is a lot we DO know about the game,  but you can't just go to SOEs site on DCUO and find this information readily.   Maybe this is their attempt at viral marketing?

 

NYCC is going to be the last, and biggest set of reveals for DCUO, so all who are interested, pay close attention.

 

You can view the Press schedule here on what the developers will be revealing and when.  

 

[3] The main questions people have over the game right now are:

1) Whats character creation like?

2) Wheres Beta?

3) What are the finalized power sets in this game?

 

All of which will be addressed come NYCC.  

[1]

Can you show where soe has released minimum specs to retailers or is that just speculation?

 

[2]

First I don't think soe is limiting itself to just mainstream comic book fans.  Soe has asperations of making games that sell to millions of players.  Comic book projects are the hottest properties in entertainment right now.  Just look at the highest grossing movies the last three years for proof of that.  Comics titles are not niche markets anymore.

Also, It is not like there is a huge wealth of information about the game on the sites you point to or that people just do not know where to look for said information.   There are some vague references to things in the game on facebook for example, but those are nothing more than the developers talking about (not showing) how cool something is going to be.  If there was real concrete information then the other mmo news sites would pick up on the stories and report on it.  They have not done so, because there is a real lack of information on the game.

Almost all of the discussion at dcuosource is speculation based on tiny references from developers in their pseudo interviews or some tweet. Even the developers mentioning something as vague as the unreal3 engine has manifested itself into some statement of minimum system requirements for the masses, but only retailers know the official numbers.  I can't even begin to describe how absurd this line of rationalization is. 

[3]

In this post you say there is no major lack of information about the game, but then you rattle off some pretty big questions that are unknowns. 

There is no closed beta test.  We don't even know the basics of the character creation system or what the basic powers will be in the game.  I don't know what you consider major, but those are some pretty major issues.  Just to go a bit further, we don't know about pvp, group content like "dungeons & raids" (soes words, not mine), the secret identity system, headquarters, etc.   If you can link solid information about that from facebook please do so, but as things stand right now there is not a lot of information about this game to be found. 

 

shadowmage

The 2 things that make me think it will be delayed is, they canceled the DragonCon panel because the Devs could not make it and they are giving out Beta VIP invites. Now there could have been a problem that cropped up they had to fix for the Nov release and they could be planning a week long open beta that is just meant to hook the people on the fence. But it still doe smake me think with the lack of info that there will be a delay. I mean why not put up info on your own page. I mean at least more info.

maskedweasel

Originally posted by Daffid011

Originally posted by maskedweasel

[1] The basic system requirements originally were as stated by the developers in an interview,  if your PC can run the unreal 3 engine,  you can run DCUO.  More importantly they've released minimum specifications to retailers.  

 

[2] This game is being marketed to, what appears to be, the mainstream comic book fan,  not the younger audience.  Most of the information on this game you can find on Facebook, Twitter, or offshoot MMO sites like Massively, MMORPG.com and of course, dedicated sites like DCUOSource.

 

There is NO delay scheduled,  and no,  that does not mean the game will release unfinished.  There is no major lack of information,  just no easy place to obtain the information.   There is a lot we DO know about the game,  but you can't just go to SOEs site on DCUO and find this information readily.   Maybe this is their attempt at viral marketing?

 

NYCC is going to be the last, and biggest set of reveals for DCUO, so all who are interested, pay close attention.

 

You can view the Press schedule here on what the developers will be revealing and when.  

 

[3] The main questions people have over the game right now are:

1) Whats character creation like?

2) Wheres Beta?

3) What are the finalized power sets in this game?

 

All of which will be addressed come NYCC.  

[1]

Can you show where soe has released minimum specs to retailers or is that just speculation?

 

[2]

First I don't think soe is limiting itself to just mainstream comic book fans.  Soe has asperations of making games that sell to millions of players.  Comic book projects are the hottest properties in entertainment right now.  Just look at the highest grossing movies the last three years for proof of that.  Comics titles are not niche markets anymore.

Also, It is not like there is a huge wealth of information about the game on the sites you point to or that people just do not know where to look for said information.   There are some vague references to things in the game on facebook for example, but those are nothing more than the developers talking about (not showing) how cool something is going to be.  If there was real concrete information then the other mmo news sites would pick up on the stories and report on it.  They have not done so, because there is a real lack of information on the game.

Almost all of the discussion at dcuosource is speculation based on tiny references from developers in their pseudo interviews or some tweet. Even the developers mentioning something as vague as the unreal3 engine has manifested itself into some statement of minimum system requirements for the masses, but only retailers know the official numbers.  I can't even begin to describe how absurd this line of rationalization is. 

[3]

In this post you say there is no major lack of information about the game, but then you rattle off some pretty big questions that are unknowns. 

There is no closed beta test.  We don't even know the basics of the character creation system or what the basic powers will be in the game.  I don't know what you consider major, but those are some pretty major issues.  Just to go a bit further, we don't know about pvp, group content like "dungeons & raids" (soes words, not mine), the secret identity system, headquarters, etc.   If you can link solid information about that from facebook please do so, but as things stand right now there is not a lot of information about this game to be found. 

 

1)  You can check retailers like gamestop, steam or direct 2 drive and they have the specifications listed.  DCUOsource has confirmed with the developers about these specifications.  They corroborated that these are the minimum specifications except for the space,  which is actually 20 GBs not 30 for the space requirements.  

 

2) SOE has been pushing this game more at comic cons then game shows.  They aren't revolving this game on MMO combat thats made for everyone,  the combat is very much so more action and twitch based, like a fighting game.  New information surfaces on sites like Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube frequently.  The storyline plays BEFORE certain comic book events that they are planning on adding later, that will really appeal to those that follow the comics.  

 

The thing about DCUO source is that, they actually have developers that come on the forums and talk with the players.  The developers seem pretty receptive to the community there.  There is still quite a bit of speculation going on,  but I am almost certain we'll see most of the remaining questions cleared up  by next monday.  

 

3) There is no public closed beta that we know of right now.  That doesn't mean there isn't a closed beta.   There are plenty of details that we are missing,  yes.  We have seen videos of PvP, they've said we'd see dungeons and raids,  but there are lots of things they haven't shown.  They said they will be in the game,  and they continue to state these will be in the game,  but we haven't "seen" these things.  Whether thats a straight up lie, or they don't want to show it for other reasons, I don't know.

 

Personally, it doesn't matter to me what they show and what they don't show before the game launches.  The final build and what is in the game on launch is whats most important to me.  If thats a lack of features, then I'll be disappointed,  but I'm not going to make a decision based on what hasn't been shown.  If I did that,  then I'd be straying away from every upcoming title.

zaylin

Personally, it doesn't matter to me what they show and what they don't show before the game launches.  The final build and what is in the game on launch is whats most important to me.  If thats a lack of features, then I'll be disappointed,  but I'm not going to make a decision based on what hasn't been shown.  If I did that,  then I'd be straying away from every upcoming title.

Very good points I have to agree with. And  it will be nice to be SUPRISED by the content.

Video games these days are almost like: watching 20 different Trailers to a Movie, By the time you have seen them all you have seen the movie.

I cant wait to explore areas of the city they did not show and go Damn this place looks amazing or Oh shit I should not have gone down that alley >.0...I hope.Honestly they cant do any worse than CO.

dougmysticey

Ya know what's funny. I just looked at gamestop and it does not list a date for the pre-order of the PC version but still shows the digital DL version as Nov 2nd. Nowhere can I find this Jan 3rd thing on the Gamestop site. All other sites still say nov 2nd as well *Steam, Amazon, etc).

C0MA

new video on mmorpg.com main page sats join us this November!

 

hmmm