Ok i may be the onlyone feeling this but i have played the game for about a day now and it is imposible for me to talk to anyone. Good lord i say hi whats up and no one ever responds. I ask a question about crafting and carpentry and if they can make bows... no one responds untill i ask if anyone can even understand me... and then oh look some one finaly replies yea i can understand you...
Maybe the original poster is on to something.
if some random stranger ran up to me in the game and said, "hi, what's up" I'd be hesistant to reply, thinking, "yeah, whatever kid, I'm trying to play the game, go bug somebody else if you're looking for idle conversation."
If some random stranger starts shouting they want to know something about crafting and carpentry and if they can make bows, I'm going to be hesistant to reply, thinking, "Jebus kid, do you have any idea of the enormity of what you're saying? Crafting a bow is pretty serious business. Maybey ou should reference crafting website and get an idea. We're trying to play the game here."
And then they're like, "can anyone even understand me" and I'm like, "yeah, I can understand you..." hoping they'd take the hint that we're trying to play teh game here.
So I guess that makes me an introvert. It's not that I wouldn't lend a helping hand, but I sure want to see some evidence the person I'm talking to isn't just out to waste my time. If everybody else playing the game feels the same way, I guess I'm among like company.
And it is this type of reasoning that can kill this game. This game needs more people willing to be social; I mean it is a MMO for goodness sake. I will say this is one of the most anti-social MMOs I have played(partly do to the poor chat system I suspect).
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."-Guybrush Threepwood "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."-Hunter S. Thompson
What scares me is, if you look at the posts from the original poster and several of his follow up, it seems to me like this is precisely the kind of guy you'd be justified to suggest he apply himself a bit more. Not to be a snob, but for his own good if he is to have any chance of enjoying the game. "Teach a man to fish," and all that. However, a significant number of people have interpretted my saying so with phoney-balony kneejerking that I'm the bad guy to say so.
That's not true mortality, it's a poor substitute at best, and deeply counterproductive to making the world a better place. It's like the people in my sociology class that, upon seeing the results of an extensive study that attributes some traits which can be seen as negative as being common in a specific society, they exclaim, "that's racism!" No, it's not racism, it's the results of a scientific study.
If one is resolved to shout down anyone looking to solve a social problem just so the affected individuals can feel better about something even they themselves know is wrong, then one is being an impediment to the good of mankind. One might end up more popular if they feign being a crusader of the people at every opportunity, being praised by like-minded individuals is likely where they picked up the habit, but considering they're just doing more harm than good, they damn well wouldn't deserve such a title.
And that's waaay more thought going into the matter than anyone was expecting, so it's best if I stop here.
Sad thing here is, 1) You say 'Teach a man to fish' but you wouldn't have said or done anything as per your example. Letting him flounder isn't teaching anything, just letting him think no one cares. And 2) Your whole spiel seems to be more a justification of your stance than any morally based ideology.
If you feel that way, that's fine. The more you try to explain and argue it only makes it more likely you want to be shown to be right, and there isn't a right or wrong here.
Question, oh sorry you hate to answer those, then a statment then i think Geld does not play the game , it would seem that you spend most of your time here defending it. now i play the game and pop in here to see whats up ..
I think it's time for mmos to start useing some kind of program like Dragon to handle speach to text would improve in game chatting. The reaon it is so quite is because everyone is useing vent and hardly paying attention to ingame chat anymore.
I just wanted to say, thanks for all the entertainment i've been getting out of these threads since the game released. I've never seen such a ferverish and long winded forum battle as been going on between the fanbois and haters and those in the middle over this game. The only way this could be better is if yall got droped into a arena somewhere, along with weapons of all types, including a kitchen sink, and fought to the death over it.
Ok i may be the onlyone feeling this but i have played the game for about a day now and it is imposible for me to talk to anyone. Good lord i say hi whats up and no one ever responds. I ask a question about crafting and carpentry and if they can make bows... no one responds untill i ask if anyone can even understand me... and then oh look some one finaly replies yea i can understand you...
Maybe the original poster is on to something.
if some random stranger ran up to me in the game and said, "hi, what's up" I'd be hesistant to reply, thinking, "yeah, whatever kid, I'm trying to play the game, go bug somebody else if you're looking for idle conversation."
If some random stranger starts shouting they want to know something about crafting and carpentry and if they can make bows, I'm going to be hesistant to reply, thinking, "Jebus kid, do you have any idea of the enormity of what you're saying? Crafting a bow is pretty serious business. Maybey ou should reference crafting website and get an idea. We're trying to play the game here."
And then they're like, "can anyone even understand me" and I'm like, "yeah, I can understand you..." hoping they'd take the hint that we're trying to play teh game here.
So I guess that makes me an introvert. It's not that I wouldn't lend a helping hand, but I sure want to see some evidence the person I'm talking to know what they're talking about. If everybody else playing the game feels the same way, I guess I'm among like company.
This "leave me alone until I am ready to grace you with my presence" attitude really kinda takes the second M out of MMO. Somehow over the years MMOs have become just large online single player games and I don't understand why. I personally play to socialize and group up with other people. Sure I do things on my own, but when someone asks a question, I usually try to answer if I can, whether I am busy or not.
I think telling someone to go to a website when they ask a question is complete BS. It frustrates me when I get that response to my questions. As a side note, it frustrates me when I am doing quests with a group and everyone goes to a website for complete walkthrough of the quest. You see, I prefer to play these games within the mechanics they were designed. And chatting and helping other people are part of the mechanics of these games. Logging out or alt-tabbing to visit a 3rd party website is not. Now I am not going to lie and say I have never visited websites, but it is after I have exhausted all my patience at trying to figure stuff out in-game.
So far I am loving FFXIV, but it needs a serious shot of community personality. No one talks, and that is just sad in an MMO. Now don't get me wrong. I don't want childish banter spewing out everywhere, but for the meer fact there are a couple thousand people not saying a damn thing or even wanting to talk has me a bit saddened.
Me and another person I have met in game have been doing a lot of leves together. We always shout out to try and find more people to group with, and usually only get 1, maybe 2 people to join us. That is not good when you can see 50 people standing around an aetheryte crystal, the guild leve sign flashing left and right, and no one wants to do anything together.
See that alone almost seperates old MMORPers from the new generation...
We old timers like to chill and talk, and take it easy... and use to grinding...
New gamers tend to want theirs now, and rarely stop to talk only to troll someone...
Ok i may be the onlyone feeling this but i have played the game for about a day now and it is imposible for me to talk to anyone. Good lord i say hi whats up and no one ever responds. I ask a question about crafting and carpentry and if they can make bows... no one responds untill i ask if anyone can even understand me... and then oh look some one finaly replies yea i can understand you... and thats it... maybe there is a diferent chat channel or something that i am not aware of but i have never played a game befor where the chat window was like a ghost town.
you are right. i remember trying to ask for help in making a bow or "where do i find the shop that sells weapons?"
it is rather annoying when no-one at all replies, Knowing there are literally thousands of people online.
i eventually found help from the viewers on my channel watching MY stream, kinda sad. lol
'one' would say USE the online manual. i did.. but that never had the answer to my query either.
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And it is this type of reasoning that can kill this game. This game needs more people willing to be social; I mean it is a MMO for goodness sake. I will say this is one of the most anti-social MMOs I have played(partly do to the poor chat system I suspect).
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game."-Guybrush Threepwood
"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."-Hunter S. Thompson
Sad thing here is, 1) You say 'Teach a man to fish' but you wouldn't have said or done anything as per your example. Letting him flounder isn't teaching anything, just letting him think no one cares. And 2) Your whole spiel seems to be more a justification of your stance than any morally based ideology.
If you feel that way, that's fine. The more you try to explain and argue it only makes it more likely you want to be shown to be right, and there isn't a right or wrong here.
Question, oh sorry you hate to answer those, then a statment then i think Geld does not play the game , it would seem that you spend most of your time here defending it. now i play the game and pop in here to see whats up ..
Ok, I like tough games. I like learning things on my own. What I don't like is the answer:
"Don't know how to something basic? The game won't give you a clue, you have to go do a search on the web to try to find the information."
Of course if you are playing in full screen and alt-tab the game crashes (did they get that fixed yet?).
I think it's time for mmos to start useing some kind of program like Dragon to handle speach to text would improve in game chatting. The reaon it is so quite is because everyone is useing vent and hardly paying attention to ingame chat anymore.
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I just wanted to say, thanks for all the entertainment i've been getting out of these threads since the game released. I've never seen such a ferverish and long winded forum battle as been going on between the fanbois and haters and those in the middle over this game. The only way this could be better is if yall got droped into a arena somewhere, along with weapons of all types, including a kitchen sink, and fought to the death over it.
See that alone almost seperates old MMORPers from the new generation...
We old timers like to chill and talk, and take it easy... and use to grinding...
New gamers tend to want theirs now, and rarely stop to talk only to troll someone...
you are right. i remember trying to ask for help in making a bow or "where do i find the shop that sells weapons?"
it is rather annoying when no-one at all replies, Knowing there are literally thousands of people online.
i eventually found help from the viewers on my channel watching MY stream, kinda sad. lol
'one' would say USE the online manual. i did.. but that never had the answer to my query either.