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  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662

    Originally posted by cloudacv

    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by Salvatoris


    Originally posted by Explorium

    oh wait, no it isn't. 

     

    http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?101007

     

    WoW has hit 12 million subscribers!

     

    A great milestone for WoW. Goes to show, a FUN game is going to be more popular than a tedious, boring game.

    Just goes to show there's no accounting for taste... and it really is just a popularity contest.  A boring game with shitty graphics can succeed based only on it's previous success. Everyone plays WoW because that's what their friends play... not because it's good.  WoW is the Jonus Borothers of the MMO world.

    Yeah right, 12 million people  play and its not a good game?  Name one thats better and be careful because ive played most of the AAA stuff out there and truthfully none of them are close in WOW quality.

    How is wow quality at all? It's based off opinion and based off of what you're saying you have no taste "be careful" don't be ridiculous.... Name one thing about wow that no other mmo has... please go ahead. Name some qualitys about wow that makes it so great. I am still waiting for those stats btw.

    World of Warcraft's Subscriber Definition

    World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules.

     

    Check here

     

    If you've played within 30 days then they consider you a player. That would mean anyone from 9/7/10 to NOW is counted as a sub. And I doubt that Blizzard is counted anyone from 2004 (unless they still actively play). And as far as naming one thing WoW has no other mmo has......12 million players....oh wait....I'm sorry do you mean feature wise? Hmm:


    • Phasing tech linked to actively questing

    • LFG tool

    • Ranked Arena contest with world-wide accolades

    • Two seemless continents (Northrend, Outland) to fly through.

    • Cross server PvP/PvE

    • On the fly dual spec switching w/ gear switch included

    • Twelve races, 10 classes w/ 3 specialized specs

    • 3000+ quest (minus dailies)

    • Dual mounts w/ vendors

    • Four classes w/ specialized mechanics (runes/energy/mana/rage)

    • Two difficulty levels for their dungeons/raids

    • 150+ mounts to obtain

    Even if you track down one of those things in another mmo I bet you cannot track down one that has them all now could you? World of Warcraft has a level polish, charm and morality that keeps the specs requirements grounded, the awards pouring in, the players playing, the humility to not take itself so seriously and still make a chet load of money. I don't know if it needs the approval of the minority on MMORPG.com to even cosider it a bonified classic.

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  • KethrymKethrym Member Posts: 85

    WoW is like genital herpies.   As much as you may want them to, they will never go away completely.   image


  • Originally posted by colddog04

    Originally posted by namelessbob


    Originally posted by unbound55

    lol...WoW has been hovering near 12 million subscribers for 2 years now.  Wrath gets deployed to China and the worldwide subscriber base increases by about 4%.  Blizzard is happy to see any increases...but 4% growth is nothing awe-inspiring.

    No, it wasn't hovering at 11million for 2 years. They did not report for 2 years. When China was no longer allowed in China they could not claim the 5 million subscribers from there. They couldn't say o look we're doing great 6 million subscribers... Wait weren't you just at 11 million? No they just don't say their numbers at times. Chinese accounts never get closed or inactive due to the subscription style which means that every account that has had a player ever play is still counting towards their total subscriber count.

    False.

     

     Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers.

     

    If a person has not accessed the game in 30 days, the sub no longer counts.

     

    Also, look at the following chart. You can clearly see when China subs were lost. Not perfectly accurate, but very close according to his sources. They still had about 6.5 million without them.

     

    http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-1.png

     

     

    My general point was that it dropped without Chinese subs and that they do not report for long periods due to stuff like that. When I said 6 million it was a generalization to numbers I have seen around which as your graph shows is pretty close. Might have been wrong with the style of sub, but with an hourly rate for subs in China it is very different than monthly everywhere else.

  • kamikkazekamikkaze Member Posts: 83

     

    let's face it

    blizzard was smart when shipped wow around the world, specially in china...

    i never saw a game that has such worldwide support

    LOTRO player

  • cloudacvcloudacv Member UncommonPosts: 210

    Originally posted by Omnarius

    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Omnarius


    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by cloudacv

    Do they even take into account the number of people with 5-10 active accounts that bot? no they dont and their is a lot of them.

    Yeah I bet 8 million of the subs are bots.  * humongus eye roll*

    They never even say active accounts. Most likely it is just accounts period... I don't know a single person that still plays wow.

    I dont understand... are you some kind of holy blizzard warrior? 

    No I am the anti hater. It always amusing to see the haters scream "show us the numbers" then when they do its all , cooked books, bots and 9 year olds on grandmas computer.  Truth is WOW is the only MMO worth playing at this time, thats why the numbers are there. They got 500 K more subs in the last two years and the game is 6 years old. Any other AAA MMO right now would love to have what WOW just picked up. Where is the competition?

     

    follow the sheep right? that is subs that's not even active subs. Show me REAL evidence that they actually do have 12 million active subscribers.

    I personally dont care if its 12 million or 2 million. Its the best MMO available and has been for quite sometime.  What game do you play? I ask because unless its a F2P ive probably played it.

    You still haven't answered a single question that I have asked you. 

    What do you want to know?  Blizzard has released the numbers, you choose not to accept them due to some hatred for WOW. Dont like it?  Then play one of the WOW clones, there are many available. They try to compete but just fall short. WOW is the best, deal with it. I dont need to convince an internet troll of anything. I play what I like and WOW is what I like. What do you play? Anything?

    Still haven't answered any of my questions. Those are not active sub numbers as I said before. You are going completely off topic. I never said I wanted to play a wow clone.  Maybe you should look up the term subcriber in the dictionary.

    Perhaps YOU should look up the definition of subscriber. If you are not paying, you are not a subscriber.  

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subscriber

    Look at it. Says nothing about concurrent or ongoing. If you have ever payed for wow that would make you a subscriber. Ass hat.

    –noun


    1.

    a person, company, etc., that subscribes, as to a publicationor concert series.



    2.

    a homeowner, apartment dweller, business, etc., that pays amonthly charge to be connected to a television cableservice.



    3.

    a person who promises to donate a sum of money, purchasestock, etc.


     


    Try again. 


    Try again. That is the intrasitive usage of "subscribe" Since you already subscribed once that is irrelevant 

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254

    Originally posted by namelessbob

    Originally posted by colddog04

    False.

     

     Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers.

     

    If a person has not accessed the game in 30 days, the sub no longer counts.

     

    Also, look at the following chart. You can clearly see when China subs were lost. Not perfectly accurate, but very close according to his sources. They still had about 6.5 million without them.

     

    http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-1.png

     

     

    My general point was that it dropped without Chinese subs and that they do not report for long periods due to stuff like that. When I said 6 million it was a generalization to numbers I have seen around which as your graph shows is pretty close. Might have been wrong with the style of sub, but with an hourly rate for subs in China it is very different than monthly everywhere else.

    The sub is different, but in a way is very similar to when a sub is lost here. If you don't pay for a month, you don't get counted.

  • luro16luro16 Member Posts: 86

    Originally posted by Latronus

    Good, keep all the kids and insta-win players over there in WoW.  We don't want them anywhere else.

    Attitudes like that is why the 20k people playing whatever game you play is doing so well.

     

  • BeansnBreadBeansnBread Member EpicPosts: 7,254

    Originally posted by luro16

    Originally posted by Latronus

    Good, keep all the kids and insta-win players over there in WoW.  We don't want them anywhere else.

    Attitudes like that is why the 20k people playing whatever game you play is doing so well.

     

    I agree. The same people that are getting all hopped up on insulting WoW are the same people that are playing other games. They make the alternative communities look worse than WoW's community.

  • NovaKayneNovaKayne Member Posts: 743

    When/IF there is a WoW killer that comes along to dethrone this beast.  It will go F2P with a market and peeps will flock to it like the second coming of [ insert your holy person ].

     

    WoW will be that old bastage of a hated relative that keeps showing up and everyone Loves him/her for some reason.  Only you see their true ugliness and character yet everyone says you "just do not get them or their humor"

     

     

    Meh!

    Say hello, To the things you've left behind. They are more a part of your life now that you can't touch them.

  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662

    Hell I don't even play anymore but I still give it props for making that milestone.

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  • OmnariusOmnarius Member Posts: 10

    Originally posted by cloudacv

    Originally posted by Omnarius


    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Omnarius


    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by cloudacv


    Originally posted by Philby


    Originally posted by cloudacv

    Do they even take into account the number of people with 5-10 active accounts that bot? no they dont and their is a lot of them.

    Yeah I bet 8 million of the subs are bots.  * humongus eye roll*

    They never even say active accounts. Most likely it is just accounts period... I don't know a single person that still plays wow.

    I dont understand... are you some kind of holy blizzard warrior? 

    No I am the anti hater. It always amusing to see the haters scream "show us the numbers" then when they do its all , cooked books, bots and 9 year olds on grandmas computer.  Truth is WOW is the only MMO worth playing at this time, thats why the numbers are there. They got 500 K more subs in the last two years and the game is 6 years old. Any other AAA MMO right now would love to have what WOW just picked up. Where is the competition?

     

    follow the sheep right? that is subs that's not even active subs. Show me REAL evidence that they actually do have 12 million active subscribers.

    I personally dont care if its 12 million or 2 million. Its the best MMO available and has been for quite sometime.  What game do you play? I ask because unless its a F2P ive probably played it.

    You still haven't answered a single question that I have asked you. 

    What do you want to know?  Blizzard has released the numbers, you choose not to accept them due to some hatred for WOW. Dont like it?  Then play one of the WOW clones, there are many available. They try to compete but just fall short. WOW is the best, deal with it. I dont need to convince an internet troll of anything. I play what I like and WOW is what I like. What do you play? Anything?

    Still haven't answered any of my questions. Those are not active sub numbers as I said before. You are going completely off topic. I never said I wanted to play a wow clone.  Maybe you should look up the term subcriber in the dictionary.

    Perhaps YOU should look up the definition of subscriber. If you are not paying, you are not a subscriber.  

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subscriber

    Look at it. Says nothing about concurrent or ongoing. If you have ever payed for wow that would make you a subscriber. Ass hat.

    –noun


    1.

    a person, company, etc., that subscribes, as to a publicationor concert series.



    2.

    a homeowner, apartment dweller, business, etc., that pays amonthly charge to be connected to a television cableservice.



    3.

    a person who promises to donate a sum of money, purchasestock, etc.


     


    Try again. 


    Try again. That is the intrasitive usage of "subscribe" Since you already subscribed once that is irrelevant 

    Wrong again. The definition of subscriber in this context is precisely as I posted. Plus I notice you are totally ignoring the posts that show Blizzards definition which again is exactly as stated. Keep trying. Perhaps you will fool someone.

  • Seifer25Seifer25 Member Posts: 61

    Gw 2 rises->wow falls->Diablo 3 rises

    Im fine with it

  • MMO.MaverickMMO.Maverick Member CommonPosts: 7,619

    Originally posted by colddog04

    Also, for all of those people that say NA is bleeding subscribers, can you please provide some proof of this? You can't? Then stop acting like children and accept that WoW is a behemoth in NA as well.

    I just hopped into this thread because it kept popping up on the main page, and I don't really care much for the subject itself (high yawn factor), but there have been several surveys and research reports that mentioned a drop off for WoW in US/EU areas. Don't really care enough for the subject to look them up, but I recall them having shown up on gamasutra.com and massively.com, I think.

     

    Of course, that's before CATA. i expect another increase announcement in subs when CATA launches or within the first 3 months, and then radio silence again regarding subs for a (very?) long time when Rift, SW:TOR and GW2 hit the scene.

    We can indirectly determine and presume that when those 3 collectively have 1-2 million+  subs/players, that among those there'll also be a large amount of WoW players.

    The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's

    The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
    Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  • DLangleyDLangley Member Posts: 1,407

    There is too much baiting going on in this thread. Please remember to follow the RoC when posting guys. Thanks. Locked.

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