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Most Evil Thing You've Done
nemesis621
Member Posts: 43
What's the most evil thing you've done to other people in a MMORPG?
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took 1000g from someone to re-spec myself in WoW to help run Heroics.
Asides from ninja drop I gess thats about it
I don't know about most evil..
the most guilty I've felt was when an Alliance high level let me live after I showed respect and asked for a "please let me live" then I turned around a minute later and killed a lower level
the higher level actually saw me do it, scolded me most severely.. at least i felt like crap.. and of course killed me.
plenty of "evil" ive done.. but that was just low down. don't do it.
Just when you think you have all the answers, I change the questions.
Reported someone as a bot in Aion if they annoyed me lol.
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Trolled mmorpg.com.
I played a Warrior in classic EQ and having a high Weight Encumberance I was often called upon to be master looter and then split the loot at the end of the night. Not only was I somewhat dishonest when it came to /split [xplat] [xgold] [xsilver] [xcopper] , sometimes the group would go so late that everyone would log without asking for anything. I made a lot of plat that way, and nobody ever knew or suspected.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
Hi my name is, um..... Bob... yeah, Bob.
Hi, my name is Bob, and I'm a bank ninja. I've made nearly a hobby out of it. Find a guild that's a little loose in the first place, big enough to have some assets but thin enough on top to be looking for constructive help, work your way up over a month or two, gain some trust, and then cash in at 5 AM on a Tuesday. No telling how much money I've made. Got a bunch of mules, and even mules on my accomplices' accounts, for the sole purpose of pocket space for guild vault proceeds.
To be fair, though, I don't just rob guilds for the sake of robbing. I choose targets that have fundamental problems, and it started out over very legitimate grievances with leadership of the first couple guilds (first one decided a couple months after I merged a guild of about 60-80 people into it to move all its leadership into a major raiding guild, leaving the low-levels and new members adrift on empty promises--couldn't stop them from looting the guild of members, but I stopped them from looting it of stuff; second one had its leadership change servers). The later ones though--really, there's a sucker born every minute. If you're going to let some stranger have full access to your vault, you deserve to be robbed blind. And if you don't know my home phone number, I'm a stranger.
The absolutely most evil thing, though, would have to be deliberately robbing a corp leader of his entire membership body through a little misdirection and propaganda. After all, it was their choice to mutiny, not mine. Anyway, he quit playing... pity.
Peace and safety.
Nothing I like to represent myself in game much like I do in real life, I don't steal in real life so I don't do it in game, I don't cheat in real life so I don't do it in game either.
The worse encounters I had in game were really just tell arguments once in WOW some guy and I got into over a mob I believe then he bagan following me all over the zone while continuing to to harrass me so I finally told him to "eff off" (used the full word) and within fifteen minutes got a warning from Blizzard.
That one really didn't make me feel bad though because the guy did follow me all over the zone mouthing off before I did that but once in LOTRO a guy kind of came up behind me and basically hit a mob I was just getting ready to attack and I somehow kind of lost it and called him an ass, he started to apologize profusely and I felt like such a tool for getting bent out of shape over a goblin standing in a camp of hundreds of the things.
Otherwise though I'm with a later responder in that the truly most evil thing I've done is troll the trolls of MMORPG.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Yes... shame on the world for trusting people.. -.-
The worst reasoning from people who have done assholic things is that 'the guy deserved it cos he was a sucker'.
You didn't happen to play SWG as a zabrak called Gustav did you?
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Train groups/gathering spots (Dragoon in overthere, specters in oasis of marr, etc)
Kill quest givers/turn ins
Kill steal
Camp bodies/respawns
the list goes on..
I get off on griefing others every once in awhile :]
though I don't think i'd ever go to the extent of robbing entire corp's like whats happened in Eve, as fun as the idea seems.
Supporting botters / goldfarmers i guess, bought regularly huge ammounts of raw materials way below market price to increase my winnings, can't argue with less grinding and more playing myself. Tbh i don't see this even evil but i think the general view is still that they are the very evil that corrupts the honest workers income.
Pi*1337/100 = 42
Man, that list is huge. I've convinced two corps in Eve they were cheating each other and had thieves in there ranks. Then had them give me there stuff to protect it and ran. Then I sold it under a guise back to them and got money. Oh the glory!
Then I convinced the GMs on a game one of there GMs was doing something he wasnt. He got canned the next day. Mind you he did abuse his powers to anger me. Lol pay backs a bitch. Ironically now hes on WoW.. on my server. Oh the irony.
So many other crappy things....
Then Ive done equally amazingly nice things. I guess Im just erratic.
This is a touchy subject. It was clearly thought as a fun thread with the "i killed that AFK gnome when he wasnt looking and hes my father in rl" stories. Not even one page in and one full of himself asshole claims to make money by gaining peoples trust and betraying them, with all the usual excuses "they were suckers, they deserved it", "it all began as a legitimate quest for vengeance"... blah blah blah (we lack my favorite, "im a really nice guy in rl, but i like to rp an asshole" . Before this thread is over someone will say it, mark my words).
We tend to forget around 5% of the population qualifies as psychopaths. Youre bound to meet some of them in a mmorpg. The silver lining to this is that in rl they tend to be the saddest losers of the bunch, so , no anger lads... even if he stole your guild bank thats about the most evil thing he can do from his mothers basement. Better to have thim there than mugging a seven eleven in rl
We can hope thats the worst they can do. A lot of these people you call psychopaths are actually quite well off and just as big a asshole in real life. In EvE I never felt bad because its actually part of the game. The culture and the mechanics. There are no rules, only consequences. Ive never seen a reason to hurt someone in Wow or most games because.. Why? You are right though, there are a lot of bad people living in the basements too.
I was one of those Corporate Espionage fellows on EVE for a very short while. Stemmed from my boredom of having only trained industrial skills, and the fact that given the fact trust on EVE online is for some reason pretending you are either gay, a stoner, or an electrical engineer. I was able to work my way into most of my marks. Convinced them of entering some wormhole space, setting up Large POSs, mining refining, starting T3 production then around 3 AM, clean them out leave them a moduless, POS with 1 day of fuel and no stront. I felt evil doing it... but its not much different from the typical space pirating, only I managed to do it without firing a single shot ever, and made off with much more. Made some good friends doing it. Never know when you might need space pirates' help ya know?
PS. I don't have false illusions of it not being my fault. I'm not shifting the blame here either. But watch out for people like I used to be. Really... protect your assets online and off. My best haul was from a wardec hard core PvP corp. Totally willing to lurk in WHs and rack up over a billion ISK worth of loot, stashed only in a hanger array that anyone who was in the wormhole could get into, seeing how the permissions weren't even set properly. Again, I'm the one who's to blame for stealing it but really? Play it smart people.
Oh.
Did a double agent bit to help tear up the Blood Axe Clan's big city in Shadowbane on the Mourning server; I'd say like 5 or 6 months into the game after launch.
The guild was getting nervous and asked for character selection screen shots. I loaded up Paint Shop Pro and did a lil' editing to my nation icons and levels and they fell for it. Looted money, items, and claimed to 'accidentally' kill any strays I saw near the tree so they'd respawn half the world away.
The raid literally went on for hours.
I've done similar things in other pvp games. People call it meta gaming, but espionage is a part of war.
I'd love to see a great political / action MMO on the market with as much player generated content as SB.
Why so serious? (Ha ha)
Anyway: The thread asked for evil.
Having said that, however, I'll say this: I'd do it again, and I'd do it to you too (especially to you, just for being self-righteous). I'm not looking for an in-depth evaluation of MMO ethical norms, and if I didn't think robbing a guild, justified or not, was on the not-mom-approved end of the spectrum, I wouldn't have posted it here, but give me a break. I gave an explanation for what motivated me because it seemed relevant to the story, certainly not to offer my video game anecdote to your certainly well-educated psychological evaluation. Nevertheless, I will tell you, I'm not a very nice guy in real life--though I acknowledge I should be a lot nicer, and I'm working on it, not that it's really your business. In any event, my rp, when I rp, is pretty consistent with my actual personality, but that really had nothing to do with any of the robberies I mentioned.
It looks like I hit a nerve, though, (after all, I'll admit I'm a little amused that you went straight to psychopath in his mother's basement over the fact that I robbed a guild in a video game). To that end, by all means, if it was your guild that failed to exercise reasonable care in protecting its assets, please accept my most sincere condolences for your loss. I understand it's no real consolation that hopefully you're wise enough now not to let it happen again, but I'm sure you agree that's better than nothing. At least, however, I trust that your virtual assets are not so dear to you as to cause you any serious trauma, and if I'm mistaken, then I'll promise not to be too judgmental about that if you'll promise not to be too judgmental about my lifting those assets, m'kay?
As for me, at some point in my gaming career I was indeed living in my mother's (and father's) basement, like many of you. Since then, however, also like many of you, I've grown up. If you're one of the few people that started gaming well after you were independent, then you certainly ought to be mature enough not to reach for your psycho stick over a story on the evil thread. When I actually robbed the guilds, I was not, however, in fact in my parents' basement. I was (and am) a lawyer. (again, ha ha) I had a wife, who I consulted about lifting the assets, and a mortgage (no kids yet). She said "it's fake money, who cares."
Apparently, maybe you guys do. And if you do, then I have to say, admittedly with a grin, you're not just a sucker, you're also a sore loser. Pity.
Edit: Also--no, not Gustav, sorry.
Peace and safety.
I was bored one night and a little buzzed. I followed around a heavy rp'er and harrassed him for over an hour. He never broke character. Gotta admire that. That was like 8 years ago but i still feel crappy about it.
HHHMMMM! Most evil thing ive done in WoW was prolly borrowed 3k from in ex guildy and never paid it back...I know so evil right? At least its not as bad as that one douche bag claiming to robb guild vaults on a reg!
I also love Tbagin Alliance after i kill them in PVP. I do it after every kill. Dont know if that counts as evil but it sure is funny!
On my rogue i followed a NE hunter around Stonetalon mountains for an hour..i kept stopping him from trying to hearth out..or run away. Then he had one of his 80 guildies come to STM to serve me an ass kickin. well the Fail DK did..and stood guard for him for a half hour..once they thought i was gone for good..the 80 hearthed out and i went back to killing this NE till he decided to log out...fun stuff!
I'm a nice guy, and I roleplay nice guys and carebears/healers and that's how I like to play...... yet.
Helping a corp theft in Eve.
Well it all started after I'd managed to convince my brother and his wife to join they both had a character in my corp and my sister in law had an alt in another corp that was just starting up. After a few months she was getting fed up with that other corp for some reason so she was gonna leave and join the corp me my brother and my friends where in. Well when she was leaving apperantly she was talking to one of my friends in corp, and that friend while good to his friends and probably a nice enough guy in real life can be a bit of an asshole in eve.... After talking with him the plan whent from just leaving the corp to taking absolutely everything they own with the help of him and a couple of other guys in our corp.
The corp was relatively young and rising (about 100 members) only a few months old so it didn't have too much, a pos in low sec a few hangers with loot and a dozen ships. My sister in law was actually one of the first members to join so she of course had director status and was able to accept applications from my corp mates, empty hangers, un-anchor poses, empty wallets and all that sort of stuff. As we live in Aussie time zone when she logged on to quit was actually perfect time to implement the theft.
Around about here is where I log on they are half way through emptying all the victims hangars no one has noticed yet and I'm being asked by all my friends and sister in law to join in and help out. Now having been the victim of corp thefts before I know how much it well quite frankly hurts to have someone you trusted betray you, and a long standing member who actually was in it legitimetly is extremely different from a new guy where you got a little stupid with permissions (that you shrug off like any loss in eve). So I'm left with the choice to either do the right thing and try and convince my friends to not screw these people over royally as they really didn't deserve it, or I can just be quite and do whatever my friends tell me to do.
Well you can guess which option I took, I could easily argue that corp theft is the nature of eve or that it's only a game or a dozen other things, there's probably a little truth in each of them.... The problem is there's also a little truth in the fact that I screwed over a large group of people so I didn't have to stand up to my friends, and that's a lesson that when I look at my real life sounds too familiar.
Oh and the corp that got screwed over folded about 5 hours after we stole from them as they had no isk, no stuff and no trust left in their members. I think a small group of them started a new corp but I'm pretty sure we crushed they're little newbie hearts.
Into the breach meatbags
1) None of the guilds ive ever belonged to had their bank stolen. Ive never lost a single asset to hackers or scammers (guess ive been lucky so far) My self-righteousness , as you call it, stems from the basic fact that i tend to sympathize with the victims , not the criminals.
2) Seems i nailed your profile, as you have acknowledged all the facts i infered about you are right at some point or other
3) As i dont know you personally i cant say if you have an Antisocial Personality Disorder. You certainly talk like one. Claiming to be a lawyer does not particularly help you in that matter
4) My psychobabble probably arises from me being a practicing psychiatrist with 18 years of clinical experience.
5) Sorry for bad english. Not my native tongue.
6) Glad to hear you are married. Must have been a big breakthrough to you.
You just won Nerd of the month award for this.
Wow... the MOST evil? It's so hard to choose...
A few from EverQuest:
I turned to my husband and said aloud, "Watch me kill this shaman" and then killed a newbie who was trying to "help" by taking one step back from a higher level rooted mob (Cazel in Oasis). In EQ, rooted monsters hit the person closest. The shaman, it turns out, was bound in Greater Faydark-- or far away, for those who haven't played EQ. (My husband, a cleric, rezzed and buffed him, so he was actually better off for it...)
I am not sure if this is evil or justice... After consulting in tells (whispers) with the rest of the group, I failed to heal (and thus killed) the bard puller in a group. He was being a buttmonkey and flatly refused to play the mana regen song AT ALL, and then pulled when the cleric (me), the enchanter, and the wizard in the group were all out of mana and had said so. Even the warrior took a step back and let him die on his own. Then he called us all noobs and ragequit, and we went on to complete the (LDON) dungeon mission on our own. I might have had mana for one heal at that point, but I certainly wasn't going to use it on him.
While I was feigning death on a raid wipe, I took screenshots of my husband, the first cleric up to rez the raid, accidentally killing himself with a mod rod (item that takes health and gives mana). And then posted them on our alliance forums for anyone who wasn't there. (... Let's just file that with ALL the times I've taken screenshots of my husband screwing up and then posted them.)
Used my "Army of Dead" ability as a necromancer on the last kill and then ran my multiple pets that look just like the monsters in that area through a group on the other side of the hill (on purpose), causing them all to scatter and the enchanter to mez himself. Not original, but HILARIOUS.
Training my cleric/husband and then feigning death. "Oops. I did it again."
(EDIT: Geez... I feel like I should add a disclaimer that I'm really a very nice person IRL, even to my poor husband. Just let me assure you, he gives as good as he gets. I would say that my alignment in games falls somewhere in the Chaotic Hilarious range-- I'll do anything if it is funny to me.)
Probably was in TCoS when me and another player were helping a fellow lower level guildie complete some quests and we took him into the PvP area and killed him. Granted after he ressed we went around and helped him complete more of his stuff.
The amusing part was he died so fast he didn't know what happened and thought he got one shotted by a mob.
XD
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.