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No New Leves? And Other Various Qs
StapledPuppt
Member Posts: 19
Hey everybody,
before I ask these Qs, I'd like to ask for some straightforward, fairly short answers. Thanks!
I am getting seriously tired of the lack of new, unique and interesting levequests. I've done the same ones, what? 10 times over! It's starting to get... repetetive.
Does anyone think that SE and FFXIV could ever improve and start listening to their fan base?
Does anyone believe that FFXIV will eventually become a great game?
Thanks!
-StapledPuppet
Comments
There aren't really specific answers to these questions as you're asking for opinions.
New levequests are coming in the next updates, but I suspect it will be more of the same. The game might eventually get better, but by then, a lot of people will have moved on. I don't think the upcoming updates will be sufficient to hold on to a lot of the players that are currently playing. The game won't die, but it will never be as succesful as it could have been.
Could they? If you watch whats going on in notes its all in order, I read here in old school beta notes this is all scheduled as planned, to pick this future apart lets dig into development:
http://jp.finalfantasyxiv.com/event/prelive/report_en.html
Notorious Monsters <--- ??? when
* Soon Notorious Monsters will make their appearance in FFXIV.
* Most will appear different from regular monsters.
* Some are so large they will make regular morbols seem small.
An then the message is set in stone for release in Dec.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=f2cf790e548828eb22d3c4dff5f04bf0793632b5
Another significant addition planned for the December version update is the introduction of notorious monsters (NMs), which will appear in open areas and on guildleves (faction leves). Coming together with the notorious monsters will be a wide variety of new items and rewards, and future version updates will usher in all-new content centered around these formidable new enemies.
Further details regarding notorious monsters and associated new loot will be released in Topics posts as they become available, so be sure to check in regularly!
We also have several seasonal events scheduled to take place beginning in December, and hope that you will all look forward to those as well!
There are still more changes and additions slated for year's end and early next year as well. We will make sure to release information regarding them as soon as we are able in the ongoing Ask the Devs FAQ.
Thank you again for your time, and we hope that you will continue to enjoy your time in ever-evolving Eorzea!
FINAL FANTASY XIV Director
Nobuaki Komoto
So this gets set in stone when its coming. Now there is more to look forward after that which I think they are trying to bring in is pvp content:
Post-Release <--- When? im waiting for that announcement myself lol
In addition to what was announced here today, we are also planning massively multiplayer battles.
There currently exist several class abilities which may have players scratching their heads as to how they are to be used. Many of these were designed with PVP in mind. While we cannot reveal much regarding PvP now, we have some exciting announcements planned for the near future.
They are building this game for sure. I am playing it because I'm addicted an its getting more awesome as you can see. I know people think that "SE isn't listening to us" but they have planned these things before you mentioned, an I see they are even doing extra as request too. As for example players want an Auction house all centralized -but SE wants a personal style to that that is almost like you can have your own store which people pretty much walk up to. I think this is greater than just an AH an different. "the stalls", the random players I can see this being adjusted myself too. The searching makes it easy mode as its already getting more an more organized an now as constructive feedback I was thinking of ways to improve what they have also attached to what is further planned:
Market Wards
We do not want the extent of a Disciple of the Hand/Land’s stay in Eorzea to be about simply putting the items he creates/gathers up for auction, which is why we have envisioned a bazaar-driven economy in which players can be creative in the methods they use to sell their wares. To better achieve this, we are currently working on ways to increase a players’ ease of using the markets by adding additional features, as well as tweaking existing ones.
Search feature to allow item searches by individual wards
Icon display to identify retainers selling sought-after items
Increase in the number of retainers that may be employed
Now I was thinking since this is my store what should my store do :P. well sell things of course but how?
StapledPuppt:
Now with current guild leves how can this be improved? we haven't yet seen these options land but they are coming straight at us. What can be added on to these features we already have here? or yet in the next plan? what more do you want to see as far as the guild leves or questing? I am always wondering how can makes this less repetitive? MORE AN MORE AN MORE of them to where your not doing the same one as often? that can be added. I was thinking myself to maybe have some sort of random features added to them spawn with them as well...
They made their choice of how this game is gonna work...too late to change now.
They also made the choice to take the easy road. Repeatable quests certainly make life easy for the programmers. Just like in the free to play games.....Why make a ton of content when you realize people won't be playing your game over the long haul? It was a financial decision. Just like saving a ton of server space by not having an AH or mail system. If they'd just tell me "sorry, we ran outta money and we'll be adding servers for the AH once you start sending in your monthly fees", I could deal with it. But to say "it's to make the game better" is a load of crap. They think we'll just lay down and play regardless, deal with their lame system for us to pay the monthly fees, and lack of content.
Hire GM's ? hellz no...just make the game so you can't bot farm, even at the expense of making a terrrible game. That's way easier for them. They're relying in the FF fan base to purchase the game.....They don't really want us to play, or so it seems to me.
They have released the game. It's too late to go back and change the UI, casting graphics, pasted landscape, and the menu based play system that requires way to many clicks to play. Hell, we don't even get a *dah tah dah* when we ding. How lame is that?
~Ziggy~
If a man speaks in the woods and there's no woman there to hear him...is he still lying?
Ok that is serious a complain? Aside of that you get it if you finish a leve.
Short answer: You're full of #@%, unless you are stuck at Rank 10 you have not done the leves 10 times over.
Long answer and proof:
Even if you do 8 leves per 36 hours it will take you roughly 25 days to complete them. Thats if you don't miss a single reset and do all the leves every time from all cities.
You are telling me you done them all 10 times? That does sound like you are simply making things up.
Rank 1 (27 Leves):
8 per city = 24, 3 tutorial leves = 3
Rank 10 (24 Leves):
7 per city = 21, 1 Faction leve per city = 3
Rank 20 (30 Leves):
7 per city = 21, 3 Faction leves per city = 9
Rank 30 (57 Leves):
8 at each of 2 Nodes/Dungeons per city = 48, 3 Faction leves per city = 9
Rank 40 (66 Leves):
According to the ZAM database. I am not at that level yet.
PS: According to ZAM database there are a total of 207 leves RANK 1 - 40.
This pisses me off to.
to the OP's question short and simple question 1 Nope not really question 2 yes, maybe.
Ok maybe I have just a thicker skin about this aspect.
1) Nope. They had months to listen and they decided it's better to attempt to try to make money quick.
2) Nope. Most of the annoying things about the game are built in "features". No jump, Copy-Paste terrain, Bad markets, Community, Weird pay methods, Shady company marketing techniques, Limited playtime, Grindfest etc. People can claim that they may fix the grind in time but if they are busy fixing the other 2000 bugs then when is this supposed to happen? I wouldn't bet on it.
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"The worst part of censorship is ------------------"
Hmm Community is a build in feature? I mean I agree that several mechanics are made by design and can hardly be changed now that easy not to mention some core systems. If you like them like me it is liekly that they can get just better, i you like some aside of the market system deep down at eharth this will propably not change.
The market system itself will be overworked this month anyway.
Are you serious? We all know the leves are copy pasta'd to hell and back. So those 21 leves at rank 20 are really a couple distinct leves and a hell of a lot of "hidden imps in dodos". Considering you start doing lvl 20 at r13...easily can do those 10x in the course of a month.
To the OP:
Does anyone think that SE and FFXIV could ever improve and start listening to their fan base?
No, never.
Does anyone believe that FFXIV will eventually become a great game?
Even the die hards I talk to say it wont get better till at least ps3 release and probably wont be ready for release till a year out or longer. (They crack me up....Look how long it took them to fix FFXI...and it still has issues)
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
The leves are almost identical from 1-43 (43 being the last set of leves you can get.) It wouldn't be so bad if they were somehow integrated with the main story and gave players a sense of story development. The only reason to do them, imo, is for guildmarks. The gil and SP you get from doing 8 Battlecraft leves isn't worth walking for an hour through the same repetitive landscapes.
SE is incredibly stubborn. If it doesn't fit in with their grand vision, then chances are it's simply not going to happen. The problem here is that their grand vision seems incredibly out of touch with what their players want. When XI came to NA, it was a good game with good core mechanics. Stats worked, skillchains worked, there was more content than people could hope to complete etc. More importantly, it was a virtual world. I can hardly say that I feel any sense of adventure in XIV. The world is sterile.
Eventually, I think XIV could become a good game, but they have a long way to go. Times have changed since XI, and it seems they think since XI was a mess at JP launch, and that worked out for them, that XIV could be released in a horrible state, and that would work out for them too. Well, they got a harsh reality check. I think the game will be enjoyable by March, but it still pisses me off.
It's painfully obvious that they released the PC version for no other reason than to make some quick cash. It should have been pushed back to launch with the PS3 version. I've been an SE fanboi since the very first FF, but XIV has really made me question them as a company. I would buy a FF game without even thinking about it, but now I doubt if I'll bother to buy another one. What happened to games like Chronotrigger and FF6? They have fallen a long ways since then.
This wasn't brief so, TL;DR: Leves are copy pasted from the start to level cap. SE will not change the game if it's not a part of their grand vision. XIV could be good, but that is a long way off. SE has turned me from fanboi into hater.
I mean this in no way as an attack but maybe it is a kind of oversensibility, if we like things our brains tends to ignore the geenral flaws and if we not like something we kind of are focused on the flaws and search for even more flaws to defend our reason deep inside. So it really can be that he never noticed in all the otehr MMORPG that typical kill X from X quests or not bothered about it but if you have a negative view on something you find negativity at any thing that you even may have ignored in other games.
as you see here you can't have fun at level 10 lol? you can actually but don't expect epic... i mean you have to actually get somewhere honestly to start actually having fun. i mean take it from another game -any mmoprg out there. how often in WoW do you travel around barrens having fun killing low level stuff? <-- example i use because most player played this game :P. We tend to rush past these areas because we wanna see whats next doesn't mean you hate it all. if this game were to stop at level 20 i think everyone may be bored unless you like killing dodos for the rest of your life, ill kill one in a second though because the drop wind shards
. this game already has enough eye candy an opens up more 30+ you start to see more serious players not just tryouts in hell week who never made the team. the game is more difficult than other games as i was talking with someone last night who just joined my linkshell from another game.
Will we get more Guildleves? Yes
Will guildleves just be the same copy-pasted kill 10x collect 10x at all ranks? No, of course not?
You have obviously never played XI, and know nothing about Square's encounter design. Guildleves are simply an engine for them to introduce semi instanced content, what they do with them is completly up to the development team. In fact if some of you had actually played the game rather than devoting such a monumental effort to troll the game (which apparently no matter how you feel about the game trolling it must be simply the most fulfilling and enjoyable experience ever), you would know this to already not be the case. r40 guildleves (r33+) have several different designs already, and we still don't have any gold leves in the game, we still don't have any multi group (raid) guildleves in the game, we still don't have any Named guildleves in the game. Since all we have are the boring grind not-special-in-any-way guildleves and already we have the diversity that we do with those (once you get out of noob ranks) then of course it will only get better.
There is nothing wrong with this game that wasn't wrong with XI at its launch. That means that assuredly this game will be the colossal failure that game was, it will continue to be trolled hardcore on every NA mmo board just like XI, it will be called a failure, the mere mention of its name will send WoW fans (and other MMO fans) and former/bitter players into a violent fit of rage, it will repeatedly be written off as a niche game, and I will play it for 5 years with thousands of other people on my server who love it too in expansion after expansion and with one of the finest and challenging endgames, best storylines, most innovative design and character progressions ever made for any MMO just like FFXI.
I can't wait.
http://xivpads.com/?1595680
http://guildwork.com/users/murugan
Its not 2003 anymore, the market as greatly evolved.
It is trolled WORLD WIDE (that includes even Japan itself), get off your high horse buddy.
Merry Christmas to you too. As was XI at its launch.
The Market has evolved lol! Survival of the most LCD pandering.
http://xivpads.com/?1595680
http://guildwork.com/users/murugan
You're kidding right? Have you ever heard of purposeful exageration to expand one's point? Jesus, get over yourself.
The point still stands regardless...
Thanks for the nice comments otherwise, interesting to see people's opinions.
-StapledPuppet
yea those are leve facts for sure... i can confirm this many myself. its a lot here already an they just adding more evolved ones too
it would take days lol
No, FFXI was loved by the Japanese at launch, and the NA people didn't have any reason to complain since they weren't allowed in for a year and a half after more content was added and things were fixed.
FFXIV has the luxury of being hated by both the Japanese and the West all at the same time.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Yeah, thank you reminding me that I need to start thinking about holidays gifts shopping!
Other than that, you're a lost cause... enjoy your half baked game. Personnally, I'll be back when I deem the game as evolved enough to warrent a sub. Yup, I'll be back... the game has potential, but it also need a sh*t load of reworking & tweaks.
Why don't you read up on the patch notes before posting such utter nonesense like the Japanese loved the game at launch. XI was in a far worse state than this game was at launch. At least the servers are stable this time around...
http://xivpads.com/?1595680
http://guildwork.com/users/murugan
I can't say I need your respect, and my argument stands on its own feet.
Every single MMO I have played had more variety than this game. Sure quests are broadly the same across the genre, but there is variety in the quests. Kill 10 wolves, kill 10 snakes, etc etc.
Honestly, variety is severely lacking across the spectrum in this game. It is a skeleton of a game, and some of the bones are a bit rickity.
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
So then you're saying that Square-Enix have learned absolutely nothing in 7+ years of developing for FFXI, and in the 5 years they supposedly spent developing FFXIV ( I'm betting FFXIV was more like the last 2 years or less, but let's take SE's word for the sake of argument )?
You do much for your cause every time you post.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Please...
Aion,Wow,Lineage 2.
Those games have better quest than ffxiv,and they also have a lot of chain quests.
Touch crystal,kill 2 beetles,talk to node,repeat 7 times every 36 hours.
Do you really see no difference between that and quests from other games?