Are you serious? We all know the leves are copy pasta'd to hell and back. So those 21 leves at rank 20 are really a couple distinct leves and a hell of a lot of "hidden imps in dodos". Considering you start doing lvl 20 at r13...easily can do those 10x in the course of a month.
Using the term "copy pasta'd" immediatly makes you loose all credibility and respect.
They are just like any other Quest in all MMO's. Or are you going to tell me know that any MMO has 100% unique quests and not 100000 kill X of Y and kill X for Y quests?
How can you even bring this up as an argument? Seriously, are you joking and trying to be funny?
I can't say I need your respect, and my argument stands on its own feet.
Every single MMO I have played had more variety than this game. Sure quests are broadly the same across the genre, but there is variety in the quests. Kill 10 wolves, kill 10 snakes, etc etc.
Honestly, variety is severely lacking across the spectrum in this game. It is a skeleton of a game, and some of the bones are a bit rickity.
So the amazing variety of "kill 10 wolves or kill 10 snakes" is better than say defend an area against waves of attacks, being drawn into traps, and protecting an NPC? (all just basic bronze not-special leves in XIV).
I'm not saying I'm happy with the variety of content in XIV but I know from XI what's in store in that department, but to say that other MMO's do it better with quest variety even at this stage I find pretty laughable.
I'm not saying I'm happy with the variety of content in XIV but I know from XI what's in store in that department, but to say that other MMO's do it better with quest variety even at this stage I find pretty laughable.
Those games have better quest than ffxiv,and they also have a lot of chain quests.
Touch crystal,kill 2 beetles,talk to node,repeat 7 times every 36 hours.
Do you really see no difference between that and quests from other games?
At level 1-20? No I do not. As I said there is more to it in many later guildleves which you wouldn't know about. Nor do you fight rats and dodo's the entire game.
Continue to troll though because that's so much better than whatever MMO you are playing I'm sure, or whatever it is your job is that you would spend the amount of time you do on the forums of a game you don't like.
Those games have better quest than ffxiv,and they also have a lot of chain quests.
Touch crystal,kill 2 beetles,talk to node,repeat 7 times every 36 hours.
Do you really see no difference between that and quests from other games?
At level 1-20? No I do not. As I said there is more to it in many later guildleves which you wouldn't know about.
Please, enlighten us.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.- -And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Are you serious? We all know the leves are copy pasta'd to hell and back. So those 21 leves at rank 20 are really a couple distinct leves and a hell of a lot of "hidden imps in dodos". Considering you start doing lvl 20 at r13...easily can do those 10x in the course of a month.
Using the term "copy pasta'd" immediatly makes you loose all credibility and respect.
They are just like any other Quest in all MMO's. Or are you going to tell me know that any MMO has 100% unique quests and not 100000 kill X of Y and kill X for Y quests?
How can you even bring this up as an argument? Seriously, are you joking and trying to be funny?
I can't say I need your respect, and my argument stands on its own feet.
Every single MMO I have played had more variety than this game. Sure quests are broadly the same across the genre, but there is variety in the quests. Kill 10 wolves, kill 10 snakes, etc etc.
Honestly, variety is severely lacking across the spectrum in this game. It is a skeleton of a game, and some of the bones are a bit rickity.
So the amazing variety of "kill 10 wolves or kill 10 snakes" is better than say defend an area against waves of attacks, being drawn into traps, and protecting an NPC? (all just basic bronze not-special leves in XIV).
I'm not saying I'm happy with the variety of content in XIV but I know from XI what's in store in that department, but to say that other MMO's do it better with quest variety even at this stage I find pretty laughable.
Your second paragraph is mind boggling. I realize this will be hard for you to accept but pretty much every MMO has at least one quest (really lowballing here) that I would call unique or fun. WoW has tons with phasing, bombing runs, actual storyline, etc. LOTROs storyline quests (books) were all well done. Seeing off the fellowship was awesome. What does XIV have in the way of normal everyday quests? Go kill something. They are not integrated into the world in any way.
The bandits are attacking the farm! What farm?
We need subligars made for the soldiers at the front! What soldiers on what front?
Quests in XIV are about as bland and generic as it gets.
Are you serious? We all know the leves are copy pasta'd to hell and back. So those 21 leves at rank 20 are really a couple distinct leves and a hell of a lot of "hidden imps in dodos". Considering you start doing lvl 20 at r13...easily can do those 10x in the course of a month.
Using the term "copy pasta'd" immediatly makes you loose all credibility and respect.
They are just like any other Quest in all MMO's. Or are you going to tell me know that any MMO has 100% unique quests and not 100000 kill X of Y and kill X for Y quests?
How can you even bring this up as an argument? Seriously, are you joking and trying to be funny?
I can't say I need your respect, and my argument stands on its own feet.
Every single MMO I have played had more variety than this game. Sure quests are broadly the same across the genre, but there is variety in the quests. Kill 10 wolves, kill 10 snakes, etc etc.
Honestly, variety is severely lacking across the spectrum in this game. It is a skeleton of a game, and some of the bones are a bit rickity.
So the amazing variety of "kill 10 wolves or kill 10 snakes" is better than say defend an area against waves of attacks, being drawn into traps, and protecting an NPC? (all just basic bronze not-special leves in XIV).
I'm not saying I'm happy with the variety of content in XIV but I know from XI what's in store in that department, but to say that other MMO's do it better with quest variety even at this stage I find pretty laughable.
Your second paragraph is mind boggling. I realize this will be hard for you to accept but pretty much every MMO has at least one quest (really lowballing here) that I would call unique or fun. WoW has tons with phasing, bombing runs, actual storyline, etc. LOTROs storyline quests (books) were all well done. Seeing off the fellowship was awesome. What does XIV have in the way of normal everyday quests? Go kill something. They are not integrated into the world in any way.
The bandits are attacking the farm! What farm?
We need subligars made for the soldiers at the front! What soldiers on what front?
Quests in XIV are about as bland and generic as it gets.
See I found LotRO's quests to be pretty much on par with WoW and the majority of EQ2's, and that wasn't really allt hat impressive to me.
Faction leves take less than a week to accumulate points for (even r40's). My linkshell does runs once a week, and are soon to do them twice a week. it's placeholder stuff for us until real NM's and harder content is added in, but I woudl rather have them work out the mechanics than allow the farming/exploiting of NM"s in a horizontal progression game. I don't want some NM's to be much harder or easier in a couple montsh after they are "fixed" just like the majority of newer MMO's.
Someone wanted an example of an r40 leve, you have to defend an area near treaspeak from waves of ariham and other mobs, and you are surrounded by hostile efts.
As for what is one enjoyable quest? I liked the r32 city quest, I like several of the behests especially in a full group. But comparing it to my experience in XI, I didn't have anything I was blow away with before level 50 and certainly not in pre zilart content. Don't get me wrong I was enjoying the game, and am enjoying this game with a similiar level of content merely because I like the world and direction of the game. So I guess you could say yeah I'm enjoying the game, but I feel the best is coming later and I look forward to that. I have no reason to not believe that it is coming, because I know what they did with XI and theya re doing the same thing here.
Oh and the community in this game is better than whatever game you are playing as well, probably because you aren't playing this game.
Ok,i will grind the same leves for 1 month,just to be able to get a different quest.
No.
Why do you even post seeing you have no idea what you are talking about?
It takes 1 day (8 leves) to get the 100 points for a faction leve, 3 days for a 200 point faction leve and 5 days for a 300. My linkshell does about 2-3 faction leves per day. Someone always has at least 1 faction leve available.
Just stop posting this crap and either play the game or go play something else. You just spread false information and negativity. Why bother if you don't play the game? WHY?
Are you butthurt because the game is not exactly what you want? Welcome to reality, it's not all about you buddy!
"Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"
Ok,i will grind the same leves for 1 month,just to be able to get a different quest.
No.
Why do you even post seeing you have no idea what you are talking about?
It takes 1 day (8 leves) to get the 100 points for a faction leve, 3 days for a 200 point faction leve and 5 days for a 300. My linkshell does about 2-3 faction leves per day. Someone always has at least 1 faction leve available.
Just stop posting this crap and either play the game or go play something else. You just spread false information and negativity. Why bother if you don't play the game? WHY?
Are you butthurt because the game is not exactly what you want? Welcome to reality, it's not all about you buddy!
FANBOY NERDRAGE!!1!!
Please,don't lie just to defend this half baked game.
Im rank 18,finished 120 leves,and i only have 150-180 points for each faction leve.
I'm curious how many faction points you get per leve? I was getting 4 or 6 per. Then you have 3 different factions that you get points for and not much choice which you are assigned.
So you are getting 8 leves from the same faction every 36 hours? You are getting 13+ faction points per? If you are taking 8 leves, how do you pick up a faction leve?
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
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So the amazing variety of "kill 10 wolves or kill 10 snakes" is better than say defend an area against waves of attacks, being drawn into traps, and protecting an NPC? (all just basic bronze not-special leves in XIV).
I'm not saying I'm happy with the variety of content in XIV but I know from XI what's in store in that department, but to say that other MMO's do it better with quest variety even at this stage I find pretty laughable.
http://xivpads.com/?1595680
http://guildwork.com/users/murugan
These are two lvl 9 chain quests from Aion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Pk0ktEGMQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvyJm7hdqIg
And they are already 500 times better than any levequest you will do in this game.
I just giggle when i imagine a Marauder rank 40 picking up ishgard levequests.
"Kill 6 Ishgard Rats"
And then "The levequest target is attempting to flee!!1!"
LOLOLOL
Oh,but you can always grind some Ishgard Ferocious Dodos.
At level 1-20? No I do not. As I said there is more to it in many later guildleves which you wouldn't know about. Nor do you fight rats and dodo's the entire game.
Continue to troll though because that's so much better than whatever MMO you are playing I'm sure, or whatever it is your job is that you would spend the amount of time you do on the forums of a game you don't like.
http://xivpads.com/?1595680
http://guildwork.com/users/murugan
Please, enlighten us.
-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-
Oh,there are Faction leves too!
Ok,i will grind the same leves for 1 month,just to be able to get a different quest.
No.
Your second paragraph is mind boggling. I realize this will be hard for you to accept but pretty much every MMO has at least one quest (really lowballing here) that I would call unique or fun. WoW has tons with phasing, bombing runs, actual storyline, etc. LOTROs storyline quests (books) were all well done. Seeing off the fellowship was awesome. What does XIV have in the way of normal everyday quests? Go kill something. They are not integrated into the world in any way.
The bandits are attacking the farm! What farm?
We need subligars made for the soldiers at the front! What soldiers on what front?
Quests in XIV are about as bland and generic as it gets.
FFXIV Faction Leve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyoMaeV9hG4
LOL AWESOME.
And the best part,the december "content" update,will only add some NM's.
Yup,that is all.
See I found LotRO's quests to be pretty much on par with WoW and the majority of EQ2's, and that wasn't really allt hat impressive to me.
Faction leves take less than a week to accumulate points for (even r40's). My linkshell does runs once a week, and are soon to do them twice a week. it's placeholder stuff for us until real NM's and harder content is added in, but I woudl rather have them work out the mechanics than allow the farming/exploiting of NM"s in a horizontal progression game. I don't want some NM's to be much harder or easier in a couple montsh after they are "fixed" just like the majority of newer MMO's.
Someone wanted an example of an r40 leve, you have to defend an area near treaspeak from waves of ariham and other mobs, and you are surrounded by hostile efts.
As for what is one enjoyable quest? I liked the r32 city quest, I like several of the behests especially in a full group. But comparing it to my experience in XI, I didn't have anything I was blow away with before level 50 and certainly not in pre zilart content. Don't get me wrong I was enjoying the game, and am enjoying this game with a similiar level of content merely because I like the world and direction of the game. So I guess you could say yeah I'm enjoying the game, but I feel the best is coming later and I look forward to that. I have no reason to not believe that it is coming, because I know what they did with XI and theya re doing the same thing here.
Oh and the community in this game is better than whatever game you are playing as well, probably because you aren't playing this game.
http://xivpads.com/?1595680
http://guildwork.com/users/murugan
That's the problem i believe you're not understanding.
8 years of experience from XI should have translated to improved game mechanics, content, and overall atmosphere at launch. It has not.
They tried to reinvent the wheel and fix things that weren't broken, instead of building on experience.
They also broke every basic MMO fundamental that i believe in listed in this 3 year old article:
http://www.guildwars.com/events/tradeshows/gc2007/gcspeech.php
Why do you even post seeing you have no idea what you are talking about?
It takes 1 day (8 leves) to get the 100 points for a faction leve, 3 days for a 200 point faction leve and 5 days for a 300. My linkshell does about 2-3 faction leves per day. Someone always has at least 1 faction leve available.
Just stop posting this crap and either play the game or go play something else. You just spread false information and negativity. Why bother if you don't play the game? WHY?
Are you butthurt because the game is not exactly what you want? Welcome to reality, it's not all about you buddy!
FANBOY NERDRAGE!!1!!
Please,don't lie just to defend this half baked game.
Im rank 18,finished 120 leves,and i only have 150-180 points for each faction leve.
I'm curious how many faction points you get per leve? I was getting 4 or 6 per. Then you have 3 different factions that you get points for and not much choice which you are assigned.
So you are getting 8 leves from the same faction every 36 hours? You are getting 13+ faction points per? If you are taking 8 leves, how do you pick up a faction leve?
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.