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General: Schwarzenegger vs. EMA II

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  • choagiechoagie Member UncommonPosts: 4

    Originally posted by Ozmodan

    Originally posted by nexus1g


    Originally posted by choagie


    Originally posted by nexus1g


     

    People keep making this really complex and it's not. Can a store legally sell alcohol to a minor? How about cigarettes? Can a theater allow a minor to legally see a rated R movie on his own? There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE here than the way it has been for YEARS...

    Stores NEED to be held responsible for their actions. This has NOTHING to do with parenting, the effects of violent or sexually explicit games, how the kid ended up at the store with money in the first place, or anything of the sort. It's about VENDOR RESPONSIBILITY.

    Just like it's the VENDOR'S RESPONSIBILITY to not sell alcohol to a minor, it's the VENDOR'S RESPONSIBILITY to not sell games inappropriate for kids to minors.

    Yes, a theater can legally allow a minor to see a rated R movie in the United States.  There is no legislation blocking it.   The MPAA is a voluntary system put in place to assuage fears and stop laws from being introduced to limit movie sales. 

    The new CA law would call for legal enforcement against sales of certain media to minors.

     Sorry, but they can't. MPAA rating list shows, "Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult 17 or older with photo ID." While the adult doesn't have to see the movie with the minor, purchase of the ticket and entrance to the theater requires that an adult be present. The lawful enforcement of this is only for rated R and NC-17 movies. (Minors cannot see NC-17 movies in a theater, no exceptions.)

    Exactly.  Where people get these ideas that it is not legally enforceable sometimes me wonder.  I mean, you have the net at your finger tips, you can't look it up before rendering a wrong opinion?  

    Perhaps you should use your own advice and LOOK IT UP.  Contrary to popular belief, MPAA ratings carry no force of local, state, or federal law anywhere in the United States. 

    Please feel free to find a Law Code to show where by LAW the MPAA is enforced.   I did look it up, you are clearly opperating from false assumptions.  X rating is enforcable due to pornography standards, but MPAA ratings are not.  The theatre can ask local authority to remove minors from their premise but not for MPAA rating (falls instead under conduct, much like one can be removed from a stadium).

  • nexus1gnexus1g Member Posts: 172

    Originally posted by choagie

    Originally posted by Ozmodan

    Originally posted by nexus1g

    Originally posted by choagie

    Originally posted by nexus1g

     

    People keep making this really complex and it's not. Can a store legally sell alcohol to a minor? How about cigarettes? Can a theater allow a minor to legally see a rated R movie on his own? There is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE here than the way it has been for YEARS...

    Stores NEED to be held responsible for their actions. This has NOTHING to do with parenting, the effects of violent or sexually explicit games, how the kid ended up at the store with money in the first place, or anything of the sort. It's about VENDOR RESPONSIBILITY.

    Just like it's the VENDOR'S RESPONSIBILITY to not sell alcohol to a minor, it's the VENDOR'S RESPONSIBILITY to not sell games inappropriate for kids to minors.

    Yes, a theater can legally allow a minor to see a rated R movie in the United States.  There is no legislation blocking it.   The MPAA is a voluntary system put in place to assuage fears and stop laws from being introduced to limit movie sales. 

    The new CA law would call for legal enforcement against sales of certain media to minors.

     Sorry, but they can't. MPAA rating list shows, "Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult 17 or older with photo ID." While the adult doesn't have to see the movie with the minor, purchase of the ticket and entrance to the theater requires that an adult be present. The lawful enforcement of this is only for rated R and NC-17 movies. (Minors cannot see NC-17 movies in a theater, no exceptions.)

    Exactly.  Where people get these ideas that it is not legally enforceable sometimes me wonder.  I mean, you have the net at your finger tips, you can't look it up before rendering a wrong opinion?  

    Perhaps you should use your own advice and LOOK IT UP.  Contrary to popular belief, MPAA ratings carry no force of local, state, or federal law anywhere in the United States. 

    Please feel free to find a Law Code to show where by LAW the MPAA is enforced.   I did look it up, you are clearly opperating from false assumptions.  X rating is enforcable due to pornography standards, but MPAA ratings are not.  The theatre can ask local authority to remove minors from their premise but not for MPAA rating (falls instead under conduct, much like one can be removed from a stadium).

     I'm so incredibly wrong. Thanks for pointing that out. I honestly thought that they could be fined by the FCC.

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