Had to pop in one last time because I forgot to mention probably the most important reason the PS3 is going to outdo the 360 at least in regards to what people here are more than likely interested in. 360 is very anti MMO while the (Sony in general starting with the PS2 I believe or was everquest a PS1 MMO title I forget lol) PS3 is proving to be very MMO friendly. Any MMO developer with dreams of a 360 launch eventually comes back and reluctantly states that it was a no go.
Many MMO's have counted on the 360 to deliver them to a wider audience, but it always lets fans and developers down. FFXI seems as if it will be the only MMO to hit the 360.
It's not the 360 itself that is letting people down as far as MMOs go, it is Microsoft and all of their bullshit...
PLAYING: NOTHING!!! PLAYED:FFXI, LotRO, AoC, WAR, DDO, Megaten, Wurm, Rohan, Mabinogi, RoM
Yes, given all the information the nation of Japan "willingly" gives out foreigners, as im sure every major analysis speaks, reads and writes English, Japanese and enough languages to read and compile all the data. Wow...Amazing! Specially a study about the future to such a market that has shifted from consoles to handhelds to smartphones in just a year and half!
A little birdie also told me the world was going to end in 1969. Anytime now.....anytime. ^_^
I only own a PS3,but I feel Im really covered on both ends when it comes to exclusive games..
As pretty much all the exclusive games for the xbox eventually come out for the PC.
*shrug* Im a happy camper.
Yeah, generally the ones I care about playing on the 360 hit PC. Microsoft is losing a lot of their exclusives for 360 though.The loss of Bungie alone is going to hurt them especially with Bungie already talking about their next shooter being made for PS3, PS4 and the 360.
The only Exclusive I'm worried about atm is Gran Turismo, been a long arse wait lol.
Just a quick quote for the "PS3 Hardware is stronger"-Faction. As Black Ops shows AGAIN, this might be the case but it doesn't show.
"For those with both consoles, the choice of where you spend the majority of your online gaming time must be factored into any purchasing decision - as was the case with Modern Warfare 2 before it. However, from a technical perspective, there's little doubt that the Xbox 360 offers the better experience: superior image definition, and a pleasingly smoother run of play."
And on top of that, even the 3D-Mode runs better on 360. It's like that with almost every multiplatform game and it's a damn shame that the older hardware runs everything better than the PS3.
exactly the only thing i give the ps3 is that it has a bluray player and some of my favorite games of all time aka Infamous and the Killzone series. Also most people who own a ps3 also own a 360 and practically everyone owns a wii by default lawl why does any of this matter really.
Just a quick quote for the "PS3 Hardware is stronger"-Faction. As Black Ops shows AGAIN, this might be the case but it doesn't show.
"For those with both consoles, the choice of where you spend the majority of your online gaming time must be factored into any purchasing decision - as was the case with Modern Warfare 2 before it. However, from a technical perspective, there's little doubt that the Xbox 360 offers the better experience: superior image definition, and a pleasingly smoother run of play."
And on top of that, even the 3D-Mode runs better on 360. It's like that with almost every multiplatform game and it's a damn shame that the older hardware runs everything better than the PS3.
I've never understood that. Why do you think my PS3 has an inch of dust on it and the last game i played on it was God of War 3? Many of the Multi-platform games I own simply run better on 360. Since I don't play anything but Mmorpg and Rts on PC 360 is my platform of choice.
Well atleast with the new ICO/shadow of colossos release ill finally get to use the damn thing, right now it feels like a waste of money. PS3 had like a good year and a half where they released very good games, now its dried up.
Before anyone challenges me on my multiplatform comment please load up Bayonetta for both consoles and tell me which is superior... its pathetic.
I actually did lol a bit reading this. The analyst is hardly going out on a limb with this prediction. By the time 2012 comes around, either PS3 will actually outsell and he'll claim victory, or it doesn't happen and everyone will forgot about the prediction that was made 2 years earlier.
Just an analyst trying to get some PR. Nothing but idle speculation that most people could do themselves.
As for PS3 Vs 360 I think that PS3s blue ray is what is tipping the scales now. In the beginning it made it far to expensive but once prices drops it is one of things that sells it.
So true.
I just changed my older Xbox for a slim one and was really close to get a PS3 instead. The main reason why I was so close is the blu ray player.
=> Simply put not only I don't have any room in my setting to add another external box (read blu ray player) but I also can't stand adding more messy cables nor another remote.
I guess MS will never ever add a blu ray player to the box and will keep saying: not needed you have netflix. Which at this point is false regarding not only the infrastructure isn't there, but not all blu ray movies are available through streaming. Furthermore, and not the least, it more than often would cost me half the price to rent a blu ray to my local blockbuster than the MS renting fee alone, not to speak about exceeding network bandwidth or getting a very high one.
There's also a huge edge for the PS3 over the Xbox it's the web browser. I regularly !@#$ against M$oft as they don't want us to be able to check our emails, meteo, whatever on our TV. No they want us to buy a PC and pay for their OS.
Honestly I can't wait to see Google Android massively installed on all HD TVs and you'll see who will be the winner in the home computer field.
This is the smartest quote here. We are all gamers, we are all going to play what we want. Until Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo start paying me for lip service, I am going to remain console neutral. Each console has their ups and downs, I don't care who has more units sold, or who has a bigger online population, or who is gonna outsell who. I am going to play the games I want to play regardless of platform.
All the nitpicking and semantics going on about console gaming just gets annoying after awhile. In the MMO realm games are competing for your monthly sub, and that +1 to the server population so the wonderful discourse here is absoulutely necessary :P. I feel like I have to make a bigger commitment to a MMO than I do a game console. Just so I am not misunderstood, I do own all 3 systems plus I am a PC gamer (see, no time-space continuum distortions there, it's ok to do both).
Both systems have been out for awhile now, so are threads like this even necessary? There's plenty of info out there for people. Magazines, Websites, etc. Or does someone have buyer's remorse and needs to justify it?
I'd rather talk more about the games themselves than the platforms they are on.
I did't like the controler.. all games seem to have different configs and i found it to small and to light
I found the games that i really like are on xbox 360...
The ps network was not that great, and played up more than a few times.
Most of all and the bigest issue i had by far was the chat.. oor lack of it. The xbox 360 is by far the better console for game with friends in group, and being a social gamer this wins hands down for me every time..
The PS3 with its blueray is good, and as a media tool its great.. blue ray films are the dogs. if thats your thing. It was.nt mine so it
I think the PS3 isn't focused on FPS games as much. It's more of the classic style of gaming like platformers and adventure games. Look at Infamous and Uncharted as a series. Those games are amongst the best released on any modern console and they're PS3 exclusives. Besides, Halo is overrated. It's a cool game and all but its not amazing. All of the biggest FPS games are multi-platform anyway.
infamous, amongst the best released? infamous is one of the biggest mistakes sony made, that game is just terrible (i hope infamous 2 to be good). dont forget to mention God of War as one of the best of the best for PS
Looks like quality is catching up to quantity. I just really wish the PS3 had much better games. Games like Killzone and MAG are just ok and thats the problem, they are just ok. The PS3 really needs a fantastic exclusive like what Halo does for the 360.
why do you think the xbox sells "tens of thousends" systems more than PS3... they forgot to mention the PS# system lasts longer than the xbox. When the red ring of death of the xbox gets on, then u buy a new xbox. Now count how many people gets the red ring of death screw up their xbox and end up getting another xbox..... the company will count that as an increase of sales....(when what really happens is the same costumer had to buy a new system coz the old one screwd up before getting old) LOL.
I have my PS2 and PS3 slim since they came out and its like new and and as of today all my friends that had xbox 360 have bought some 2, some 3 systems because of the red ring of death (and i play viciously more on my PS systems than they play their xbox 360's)
Looks like quality is catching up to quantity. I just really wish the PS3 had much better games. Games like Killzone and MAG are just ok and thats the problem, they are just ok. The PS3 really needs a fantastic exclusive like what Halo does for the 360.
why do you think the xbox sells "tens of thousends" systems more than PS3... they forgot to mention the PS# system lasts longer than the xbox. When the red ring of death of the xbox gets on, then u buy a new xbox. Now count how many people gets the red ring of death screw up their xbox and end up getting another xbox..... the company will count that as an increase of sales....(when what really happens is the same costumer had to buy a new system coz the old one screwd up before getting old) LOL.
I have my PS2 and PS3 slim since they came out and its like new and and as of today all my friends that had xbox 360 have bought some 2, some 3 systems because of the red ring of death (and i play viciously more on my PS systems than they play their xbox 360's)
Everyone has a different experience I've never replaced my 360. I play more than my brother and he has a Ps3. He had to flip his Ps3 on its side just to get it to read games properly...
I think the PS3 isn't focused on FPS games as much. It's more of the classic style of gaming like platformers and adventure games. Look at Infamous and Uncharted as a series. Those games are amongst the best released on any modern console and they're PS3 exclusives. Besides, Halo is overrated. It's a cool game and all but its not amazing. All of the biggest FPS games are multi-platform anyway.
infamous, amongst the best released? infamous is one of the biggest mistakes sony made, that game is just terrible (i hope infamous 2 to be good). dont forget to mention God of War as one of the best of the best for PS
Infamous was kinda lame dude. Ill agree to that.
Also I think God of War was overrated.
I had a better time playing some of the "god of war clones" than I did the third one.
Well now the PS3 has been cracked open wider than the grand canyon,i can see an Xbox 1 scenario Sony to all intense purposes removed other OS and pissed of lots's of very talented coders who were happily useing Linux, as in Xbox1 the console will sell like hot cakes just as Xbox 360 sales increased after drive firmware hacks.
Then Geohotz cracked the PS3 Sony responded by removeing other OS hence pissing off the talented coders who banded together and in under a year now have full access to Hypervisor and full root access,suffice to say i'll now be getting a PS3 as now i have a full fledged media centre with full admin access SONY must now be kicking them selves or the douche who turned harmless homebrew linux coders into an army of hackers
Looks like quality is catching up to quantity. I just really wish the PS3 had much better games. Games like Killzone and MAG are just ok and thats the problem, they are just ok. The PS3 really needs a fantastic exclusive like what Halo does for the 360.
The Last Guardian wont be no Halo but when its released. Omfg. and although it isnt a shooter. id imagine its going to sell some consoles none the less.
didn't bother to read through the pages if someone has already brought this up.
Looks like quality is catching up to quantity. I just really wish the PS3 had much better games. Games like Killzone and MAG are just ok and thats the problem, they are just ok. The PS3 really needs a fantastic exclusive like what Halo does for the 360.
The Last Guardian wont be no Halo but when its released. Omfg. and although it isnt a shooter. id imagine its going to sell some consoles none the less.
didn't bother to read through the pages if someone has already brought this up.
I need to see more last guardian gameplay before forming an opinion on it to be honest. I traded in my 360 for a PS3 not so long ago and i'm happy with it. Sony just needs better games and make the PS3 a more social platform.
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It's not the 360 itself that is letting people down as far as MMOs go, it is Microsoft and all of their bullshit...
PLAYING: NOTHING!!!
PLAYED:FFXI, LotRO, AoC, WAR, DDO, Megaten, Wurm, Rohan, Mabinogi, RoM
WAITING FOR: Dust 514
I only own a PS3,but I feel Im really covered on both ends when it comes to exclusive games..
As pretty much all the exclusive games for the xbox eventually come out for the PC.
*shrug* Im a happy camper.
Yes, given all the information the nation of Japan "willingly" gives out foreigners, as im sure every major analysis speaks, reads and writes English, Japanese and enough languages to read and compile all the data. Wow...Amazing! Specially a study about the future to such a market that has shifted from consoles to handhelds to smartphones in just a year and half!
A little birdie also told me the world was going to end in 1969. Anytime now.....anytime. ^_^
Yeah, generally the ones I care about playing on the 360 hit PC. Microsoft is losing a lot of their exclusives for 360 though.The loss of Bungie alone is going to hurt them especially with Bungie already talking about their next shooter being made for PS3, PS4 and the 360.
The only Exclusive I'm worried about atm is Gran Turismo, been a long arse wait lol.
Just a quick quote for the "PS3 Hardware is stronger"-Faction. As Black Ops shows AGAIN, this might be the case but it doesn't show.
"For those with both consoles, the choice of where you spend the majority of your online gaming time must be factored into any purchasing decision - as was the case with Modern Warfare 2 before it. However, from a technical perspective, there's little doubt that the Xbox 360 offers the better experience: superior image definition, and a pleasingly smoother run of play."
And on top of that, even the 3D-Mode runs better on 360. It's like that with almost every multiplatform game and it's a damn shame that the older hardware runs everything better than the PS3.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-call-of-duty-black-ops-faceoff
@Clubmaster
A little math goes a long way
The mathematical difference between 1080P (what most 360 Games play at) and 720P (what most PS3 games play at) is 2.25.
Mathematical Proof
1280 x 720 = 921,600 Pixels
1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 Pixels
Now we divide: 2,073,000/921,600 = 2.25
Good Luck. ^_^
exactly the only thing i give the ps3 is that it has a bluray player and some of my favorite games of all time aka Infamous and the Killzone series. Also most people who own a ps3 also own a 360 and practically everyone owns a wii by default lawl why does any of this matter really.
I've never understood that. Why do you think my PS3 has an inch of dust on it and the last game i played on it was God of War 3? Many of the Multi-platform games I own simply run better on 360. Since I don't play anything but Mmorpg and Rts on PC 360 is my platform of choice.
Well atleast with the new ICO/shadow of colossos release ill finally get to use the damn thing, right now it feels like a waste of money. PS3 had like a good year and a half where they released very good games, now its dried up.
Before anyone challenges me on my multiplatform comment please load up Bayonetta for both consoles and tell me which is superior... its pathetic.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
I actually did lol a bit reading this. The analyst is hardly going out on a limb with this prediction. By the time 2012 comes around, either PS3 will actually outsell and he'll claim victory, or it doesn't happen and everyone will forgot about the prediction that was made 2 years earlier.
Just an analyst trying to get some PR. Nothing but idle speculation that most people could do themselves.
So true.
I just changed my older Xbox for a slim one and was really close to get a PS3 instead. The main reason why I was so close is the blu ray player.
=> Simply put not only I don't have any room in my setting to add another external box (read blu ray player) but I also can't stand adding more messy cables nor another remote.
I guess MS will never ever add a blu ray player to the box and will keep saying: not needed you have netflix. Which at this point is false regarding not only the infrastructure isn't there, but not all blu ray movies are available through streaming. Furthermore, and not the least, it more than often would cost me half the price to rent a blu ray to my local blockbuster than the MS renting fee alone, not to speak about exceeding network bandwidth or getting a very high one.
There's also a huge edge for the PS3 over the Xbox it's the web browser. I regularly !@#$ against M$oft as they don't want us to be able to check our emails, meteo, whatever on our TV. No they want us to buy a PC and pay for their OS.
Honestly I can't wait to see Google Android massively installed on all HD TVs and you'll see who will be the winner in the home computer field.
Maybe if they didn't charge the price of a fridge when they first released the PS3 they would have sold a lot more.
i'm honestly surprised how anyone even from the release of both systems would of chosen xbox360 over ps3 aside from i guess HALO.
ps3 free online, usb controllers, blue ray.. did I say free online?
That's quite a list you got there.
For example I like much better the Xbox controller than the PS3 one. Also the PS3 was way overpriced at launch, vs the Xbox.
I might be wrong but if I remember well there were more games on Xbox than on PS3 initially.
BTW in your list you forgot "free" Wifi and HDMI port along blue tooth support.
This is the smartest quote here. We are all gamers, we are all going to play what we want. Until Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo start paying me for lip service, I am going to remain console neutral. Each console has their ups and downs, I don't care who has more units sold, or who has a bigger online population, or who is gonna outsell who. I am going to play the games I want to play regardless of platform.
All the nitpicking and semantics going on about console gaming just gets annoying after awhile. In the MMO realm games are competing for your monthly sub, and that +1 to the server population so the wonderful discourse here is absoulutely necessary :P. I feel like I have to make a bigger commitment to a MMO than I do a game console. Just so I am not misunderstood, I do own all 3 systems plus I am a PC gamer (see, no time-space continuum distortions there, it's ok to do both).
Both systems have been out for awhile now, so are threads like this even necessary? There's plenty of info out there for people. Magazines, Websites, etc. Or does someone have buyer's remorse and needs to justify it?
I'd rather talk more about the games themselves than the platforms they are on.
Current Games:
I sold my PS3 for these simple reasons..
I did't like the controler.. all games seem to have different configs and i found it to small and to light
I found the games that i really like are on xbox 360...
The ps network was not that great, and played up more than a few times.
Most of all and the bigest issue i had by far was the chat.. oor lack of it. The xbox 360 is by far the better console for game with friends in group, and being a social gamer this wins hands down for me every time..
The PS3 with its blueray is good, and as a media tool its great.. blue ray films are the dogs. if thats your thing. It was.nt mine so it
lost out to the 360.. thats all really
infamous, amongst the best released? infamous is one of the biggest mistakes sony made, that game is just terrible (i hope infamous 2 to be good). dont forget to mention God of War as one of the best of the best for PS
why do you think the xbox sells "tens of thousends" systems more than PS3... they forgot to mention the PS# system lasts longer than the xbox. When the red ring of death of the xbox gets on, then u buy a new xbox. Now count how many people gets the red ring of death screw up their xbox and end up getting another xbox..... the company will count that as an increase of sales....(when what really happens is the same costumer had to buy a new system coz the old one screwd up before getting old) LOL.
I have my PS2 and PS3 slim since they came out and its like new and and as of today all my friends that had xbox 360 have bought some 2, some 3 systems because of the red ring of death (and i play viciously more on my PS systems than they play their xbox 360's)
Everyone has a different experience I've never replaced my 360. I play more than my brother and he has a Ps3. He had to flip his Ps3 on its side just to get it to read games properly...
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Infamous was kinda lame dude. Ill agree to that.
Also I think God of War was overrated.
I had a better time playing some of the "god of war clones" than I did the third one.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Seems the Xbox is going to beat the PS3 is Kinect success keeps going on...
Well now the PS3 has been cracked open wider than the grand canyon,i can see an Xbox 1 scenario Sony to all intense purposes removed other OS and pissed of lots's of very talented coders who were happily useing Linux, as in Xbox1 the console will sell like hot cakes just as Xbox 360 sales increased after drive firmware hacks.
Then Geohotz cracked the PS3 Sony responded by removeing other OS hence pissing off the talented coders who banded together and in under a year now have full access to Hypervisor and full root access,suffice to say i'll now be getting a PS3 as now i have a full fledged media centre with full admin access SONY must now be kicking them selves or the douche who turned harmless homebrew linux coders into an army of hackers
actually both did well and can't really compare sales now, ps3 move content this year is going to drop kick kinect.
their so called kinect "innovation" (aka ps eyetoy) is so limited ( 3d tracking) besides making kiddie games. lets see how far can they go.
The Last Guardian wont be no Halo but when its released. Omfg. and although it isnt a shooter. id imagine its going to sell some consoles none the less.
didn't bother to read through the pages if someone has already brought this up.
I need to see more last guardian gameplay before forming an opinion on it to be honest. I traded in my 360 for a PS3 not so long ago and i'm happy with it. Sony just needs better games and make the PS3 a more social platform.