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Warzones? Really Bioware?!

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  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Member Posts: 1,857

    Fun facts:

    #1 This game is made by Bioware, who has never done PVP before.  Even though Mythic is helping, there have been no statements of them handing PVP over to Mythic.

    #2  This game is based upon story, which is a PVE element.

    #3  There are only two factions, so it's not a PVP game.

    I begrudgingly accepted these 3 facts when the game was in early development and have not looked back.  So, I do not expect stellar PVP unless they suddenly announce a third faction.  Why do players and Devs not get it?  The only way to make PVP great is to have an odd number of factions.  It's first-grader math.

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  • Atlan99Atlan99 Member UncommonPosts: 1,332

    Originally posted by Souldrainer

    Fun facts:

    #1 This game is made by Bioware, who has never done PVP before.  Even though Mythic is helping, there have been no statements of them handing PVP over to Mythic.

    #2  This game is based upon story, which is a PVE element.

    #3  There are only two factions, so it's not a PVP game.

    I begrudgingly accepted these 3 facts when the game was in early development and have not looked back.  So, I do not expect steller PVP unless they suddenly announce a third faction.  Why do players and Devs not get it?  The only way to make PVP great is to have an odd number of factions.  It's first-grader math.

    So by your logic 99% of PvP games aren't actually PvP games.

  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Member Posts: 1,857

    Originally posted by Atlan99

    Originally posted by Souldrainer

    Fun facts:

    #1 This game is made by Bioware, who has never done PVP before.  Even though Mythic is helping, there have been no statements of them handing PVP over to Mythic.

    #2  This game is based upon story, which is a PVE element.

    #3  There are only two factions, so it's not a PVP game.

    I begrudgingly accepted these 3 facts when the game was in early development and have not looked back.  So, I do not expect steller PVP unless they suddenly announce a third faction.  Why do players and Devs not get it?  The only way to make PVP great is to have an odd number of factions.  It's first-grader math.

    So by your logic 99% of PvP games aren't actually PvP games.

     No,  Close.  In my unpopular opinion 99.5% of PVP games aren't actually PVP games.  Have a Cigar.

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  • immodiumimmodium Member RarePosts: 2,610

    Originally posted by Souldrainer

    Fun facts:

    #1 This game is made by Bioware, who has never done PVP before.  Even though Mythic is helping, there have been no statements of them handing PVP over to Mythic.

    #2  This game is based upon story, which is a PVE element.

    #3  There are only two factions, so it's not a PVP game.

    I begrudgingly accepted these 3 facts when the game was in early development and have not looked back.  So, I do not expect stellar PVP unless they suddenly announce a third faction.  Why do players and Devs not get it?  The only way to make PVP great is to have an odd number of factions.  It's first-grader math.

    Your #3 is well out. If theres teams in PVP it aint PVP. FFA FTW :)

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  • AryasAryas Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 337

    Originally posted by Souldrainer

    Originally posted by Atlan99


    Originally posted by Souldrainer

    Fun facts:

    #1 This game is made by Bioware, who has never done PVP before.  Even though Mythic is helping, there have been no statements of them handing PVP over to Mythic.

    #2  This game is based upon story, which is a PVE element.

    #3  There are only two factions, so it's not a PVP game.

    I begrudgingly accepted these 3 facts when the game was in early development and have not looked back.  So, I do not expect steller PVP unless they suddenly announce a third faction.  Why do players and Devs not get it?  The only way to make PVP great is to have an odd number of factions.  It's first-grader math.

    So by your logic 99% of PvP games aren't actually PvP games.

     No,  Close.  In my unpopular opinion 99.5% of PVP games aren't actually PVP games.  Have a Cigar.

    ROFL!

     

    I love this site. Browsing for less than a minute and I've already found the most idiotic comment I've ever read.

     

    You might want to look up the definition of PvP before you consider posting again, although I honestly didn't think the concept was that difficult to grasp. You seem to be confused PvP with PvPvP /sarcasm off.

     

    Have a guide to MMO terminology.

     

    Aryas

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  • SouldrainerSouldrainer Member Posts: 1,857

    Originally posted by Aryas

    Originally posted by Souldrainer

    Originally posted by Atlan99

    Originally posted by Souldrainer

    Fun facts:

    #1 This game is made by Bioware, who has never done PVP before.  Even though Mythic is helping, there have been no statements of them handing PVP over to Mythic.

    #2  This game is based upon story, which is a PVE element.

    #3  There are only two factions, so it's not a PVP game.

    I begrudgingly accepted these 3 facts when the game was in early development and have not looked back.  So, I do not expect steller PVP unless they suddenly announce a third faction.  Why do players and Devs not get it?  The only way to make PVP great is to have an odd number of factions.  It's first-grader math.

    So by your logic 99% of PvP games aren't actually PvP games.

     No,  Close.  In my unpopular opinion 99.5% of PVP games aren't actually PVP games.  Have a Cigar.

    ROFL!

     

    I love this site. Browsing for less than a minute and I've already found the most idiotic comment I've ever read.

     

    You might want to look up the definition of PvP before you consider posting again, although I honestly didn't think the concept was that difficult to grasp. You seem to be confused PvP with PvPvP /sarcasm off.

     

    Have a guide to MMO terminology.

     

    Aryas

     Umm... are you serious?!?  PVP, IMO =/= one player shooting another with a cannon whilst the latter wields a sword.  I don't care what propaganda you've read.  PVP is the *viable competition* of one player trying to kill a *worthy opponent*.

    When we talk about games,  as a whole, Player Killing happens in most of them.  Does that make it a PVP game?  No.  That's why in Boxing we don't see Pacman*versus* Street Person # 12 in sports.  It's not competitive.  It's not "versus" if it's a massacre. 

    If you walk around a corner and blow some unexpecting person's head off with a gun, is that a fist fight?  Does the news report it as an "honorable fight of Aryas VERSUS Street Person #13", or do they report it as a dishonorable murder?  The same problem arises when we define PVP as "any kill between two players."  No... that's called cheap shotting, and no real world sport would consider it a viable competition in any form.

     Make no mistake, for open-world PVP to be competitive in an MMO game, it has to have an odd number of factions.  The problem with internet autonomy + the masses is that the latter start to blur lines between what is honorable and competitive, and what is *allowed*. 

     

    The word "versus" is mis-used IMO, and should be reserved for competitive fights, not PKs.

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