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Anyway... to bring this back on topic.... there's a new post on upcoming changes. Some that are relative to this post have been highlighted in red:
- New Character Differentiation option: Training!
- Eat healthy! New examine information to explain the benefits of food and drink!
- Brawlers get built-in shields!
- Guild followers can spend the status they earn at city merchants!
- Now easier to equip rings, wrist items, and weapons!
- Slash that dot! Maps now show your current heading!
- Lots of UI tweaks and enhancements!
- More bug fixes than you can shake a moss snake at!
- Training allows you to choose one of four new abilities. Each of these spells or arts builds off abilities you've been using but substantially increases their effectiveness and benefit.
- The choice is yours whether you prefer a stronger attack, a more potent buff, a heartier heal, or a handier utility function. Training allows you to enhance specific aspects of your character and be a bit unique.
- These Training abilities have a longer span of effectiveness than most common spells and arts, so they'll prove very useful to you.
- Note: Characters who reach levels 10 and 20 will not be prompted to make their Training selections until they leave their current zone and enter another. This is a known issue that will be corrected in a future update.
IMPORTANT!
*** Gameplay ***
- If a character dies and is given the option to be revived in a different zone, the revive window will allow the player to choose from multiple instances if they are available.
- Harvesting quests can no longer be completed by purchasing the items from a broker.
- Spells that debuff the target's maximum health or power now work appropriately.
- Fixed a bug that could cause you to fall under the world while swimming.
- Removed the restriction that only guild patrons can spend status points.
- You are no longer able to swap bags into your shared bank if one of the bags contains a lore or no-trade item.
- You are no longer able to drag lore items from your overflow slot into the shared bank.
- Fixed a bug that caused rare mastery quest items not to drop from solo encounters.
- Inventory: The overflow slot now features a context menu that allows you to examine the item, move it to your inventory, or destroy it.
- Inventory: The default behavior when dragging a stack of items or coins has changed to drag the entire stack. To choose a quantity, hold down the Shift key while dragging. Holding down the Control key while dragging still picks up a single item from the stack.
- Inventory: You can now drag bag windows if your mouse pointer is over an empty slot.
- Inventory: If you attempt to equip a weapon that is not compatible with what you're wielding, your current weapons will be unequipped for you. For example, if you are currently holding a sword and shield and attempt to equip a two-handed weapon, both the sword and shield will be unequipped.
- Inventory: Equipping items in the wrist and finger slots is much easier.
- Inventory: Double-clicking a second dual-wield weapon in your inventory should now allow it to be equipped properly.
- Inventory: Added information on the value of various kinds of food and drink in the examine window and tooltip.
- Guild UI: Class and Name columns are now sized according to their content.
- Guild UI: Guild UI now displays the guild status earned by each patron in the "Standing" column.
- Guild UI: Fixed the confirmation screen for guild demotions.
- Main UI: The society window's members list will now sort correctly on rank, level, current status, and total status when you click on the column headers.
- Main UI: Fixed a bug causing only the first embedded item link to get the link color.
- Main UI: Custom chat channels now use their assigned channel colors.
- Main UI: Maps now have a heading indicator instead of a dot.
- Main UI: Coins in your bank and in a trade window now have a tooltip.
- Main UI: Clicking on a map icon now creates a temporary waypoint and a wisp to that location. For real this time.
- Main UI: Various points of interest have been added to the city maps.
- Main UI: UI window settings should now save more consistently.
- Main UI: You will receive notification when players on your friends list log in and out.
- Main UI: The tooltip on the experience bar now reports experience debt more accurately.
- Main UI: The con color of quests is now visible on the quest acceptance window.
- Main UI: Hotkey macros can now have up to three command lines, which are executed in order.
- Main UI: Hotkeys should no longer flash when a heroic opportunity starter chain fails.
- Main UI: Only relevant hotkeys should flash during a heroic opportunity.
- Main UI: Items that cannot be equipped no longer show their condition in the examine window.
- Main UI: Items can now be dropped anywhere in the trade window. If you drop an item somewhere that doesn't make sense, it will be placed into the leftmost available spot.
- Tradeskill UI: When repeating a recipe, the components window will now remember which particular items you previously selected.
- A Bitter Brew
- A Change in Plans
- A Message for Kitty
- Darig Giantbane
- Desperately Seeking Ants!
- Desperately Seeking Butterflies!
- Desperately Seeking Moths!
- Duranar the Swift
- Flight of the Sage
- Granville's Restaurant, D'Lere
- Granville's Restaurant, Antonica
- Karath the Forgotten
- Kleron's Earring
- Kleron's Helmet
- Kleron's Leggings
- Kleron's Ring
- Kleron's Shoes
- Kleron's Wrist-Guards
- Kuranam of the Seven Foals
- Like a Ring in a Haystack
- Never Judge a Book By Its Cover
- No More Witnesses
- Reliving the Past
- The Age of Rediscovery
- The Curious Augur's Three Meanings of Life
- The Farmer's Ring
- The One-Eyed Chief
- The Scholar's Search
- The Traveling Augur's Three Meanings of Life
- The Wanderer's Three Meanings of Life
- Trantieral Thunderhoof
- A Menace to Berrybrook
- Angry Augur's Three Meanings of Life
- Arboreal Survey
- Bootstrutter's Trail Guide to Old Grove
- Bootstrutter's Trail Guide to West Zek
- Bootstrutter's Trail Guide to the Badlands
- Case of the Missing Person
- Case of the Poisoned Wine
- Crab Exploratory
- Defending Harold Winemaster
- Disrupting the Mining Operation
- Far Seas Requisition ENC0457
- Far Seas Requisition ENC0679
- Far Seas Requisition ENC0699
- Far Seas Requisition ENC0745
- Far Seas Requisition ENC0825
- Far Seas Requisition Special Contract #TS023
- Fauna Fecundity
- Hail to the Derris Heroes
- Hail to the Sullon Heroes
- Hail to the Tallon Heroes
- Hail to the Vallon Heroes
- Keys for Hammer
- Magical Residue Recovery
- Marine Fecundity
- Meandering Augur's Three Meanings of Life
- Mettle Testing
- Miscellaneous Request
- Native Hostile Exploratory II
- Native Melee Efficacy IV
- Native Projective Efficacy IV
- Sea Life Farmability
- Short Range Patrol
- Special Acquisitor, I
- Special Acquisitor, II
- Special Acquisitor, III
- Special Acquisitor, IV
- The Curse of the Bloody Shank
- The Grain Grog Run
- The Mysterious Dagger
- The Tallon Plunder Chests
- Undead Survey
- Utilitarian Desires of the Miners
- Utilitarian Desires of the Protectors
- Utilitarian Desires of the Toiler
- Avenge the Freeport Trooper
- Do or Die, Says Irizan
- Kill 'em All
- Lost Friend in Fallen Gate
- Narin Heirloom
- Saving the Sewage Pumps
- Slaying the Defiled Villagers
- Stopping the Grimmin Plan
- Ignatia Cellus' History of Antonica
- Iridescent Brooch
- Gildas' Requests - Part III
- Gildas' Requests - Part IV
- Gildas' Requests - Part V
- Gildas' Requests - Part VI
- Selwyn's Errands - Part I
- Selwyn's Errands - Part II
- Selwyn's Errands - Part III
- Selwyn's Errands - Part VI
- Selwyn's Errands - Part V
- Selwyn's Errands - Part VI
- Some modifications have been made to the Bag of Sewn Evil Eye, Polished Granite Tomahawk, and Stein of Moggok quests.
- The tradeskill tutorial window should no longer show up during the Dwarven Workboots quest.
- The experience gained when completing catalog quests has been modified.
- Catalog quests should now reward players when completed.
- The zombie mastery trophy has a new appearance.
- The access quest to Fallen Gate should now be working properly.
- Players should now be able to finish the "Vale of the Shattering" quest.
- Some modifications have been made to Ian Cathlan's armor quests.
- The "Acidic Liquid" quest will now reward an item of a more appropriate level.
- The level of the "Failed Assassin" quest has been increased to match the difficulty of the targets of the quest.
- The quest level for "The Lost Religion of Fallen Gate" has been increased. Skullsprainer weapons have been removed from the quest.
- Society tasks will now reward players with coin in the quest reward window.
- The reward for "Green Hood Ration Recipe" has been changed to something more appropriate.
- Lore and Legends quests are no longer flagged as Mastery. They'll now have their own quest category type.
- The "History of the Feir'Dal" book has been added to sage merchants in Qeynos.
- The rat collar quest in Edgewater Drains is no longer repeatable. The reward has been set to be Lore and No Trade.
- The level and experience rewarded in the "Snake Slayings" quest has been modified to better match the difficulty of the quest.
- The Leatherfoot Brigade quests can now be completed more easily.
- "Keep of the Ardent Needle" is no longer labeled as an Access quest. It is now labeled as an Antonica quest.
- "Recovery of Bloodsaber Plans" and "Into the Crypt of Betrayal" are no longer labeled as Access quests. They are now labeled as quests for Elddar Grove.
- "Cleansing of the Firemyst Gully" should now be working correctly.
- Dialogues have been modified in the "Skullsprainer" quest.
- The Collection quests for moths and butterflies should now properly reward players. Players will need to speak with the collector NPCs to have the larger collections added.
- Kregnok's Axe is no longer obtainable as a quest reward.
- The amount of experience rewarded for completing "Tillin's Gnoll Woes" has been lowered.
- "Shadow Axe" has had its reward changed.
- "Rings that Thirst" had its reward changed.
- Celeg Ixuri, Ikara V'Tahl, Obere Warrain, Narek Bonecarver, Shadowdash, and Ott Stompgut should no longer appear if the armor quest they are part of has been completed.
- Books found in adventure areas that provide quests had their respawn times reduced from 5 minutes to 15 seconds.
- The Deathfist Access quest will now work properly if the character's journal is full and has been changed to a Hallmark quest.
- The Polished Granite Tomahawk recipe and pristine piece of granite have been marked as No Trade, No Value, and No Destroy.
- Language quest items have been changed to be Lore and had their drop rate increased.
- The "Insulated Warmers" quest will now update correctly.
- All steps for the "Hundred Fold Blade" quest are no longer displayed immediately on starting.
- The Orcish Wastes creature catalog quest has been updated.
- The Qeynos Catacombs creature catalog quest has been updated.
- The Elephant Hide Boots quest will now update correctly when defeating Dervish Cutthroats.
- The Feerrott creature catalog quest has been updated.
- Mr. Burpbelly can once again be found within Fallen Gate.
- Betrayers should now be able to select their tradeskill class and subclass correctly.
- Qeynos betrayers should no longer be able to accept and complete another class quest within Freeport.
- The Bird Watching tome quest has had its reward modified.
- Several tome quests had their category changed from Miscellaneous to the zone in which they are meant to be completed.
- The Fury subclass quest in Freeport has been adjusted.
- "Pretty Ponies, All in a Row" can now be completed.
- Dancer should now give you her second quest even if you end the dialogue or happen to die in the middle of speaking with her.
- "The One Who Got Away" quest has been modified.
- "Rumble" should now update correctly.
- "Freedom" should now update correctly.
- "Virtue Belt" should now update correctly.
- "Blood Ore Basher" should now update correctly and had some typos fixed.
- Striped spiders should now update the Striped Spider collection quest.
- Vital portions of Rask Helstot's quests can no longer be deleted.
- Experience rewards have been removed from the following quests:
Report to Marauder Kindolus
Report to Disciple Telas'velle
Report to Aesthetic Winchester
Report to Missionary Jenson
Report to Sergeant Ironcast
Report to Guard Rellin'thir
Report to Baron Zafimus
Report to Shepherd Sell'ar
Report to Archivist Jindlefog
Report to Chronicler Steelwill
Report to Boatswain Fomas
Report to Liege Helvanica
Report to Naturalist Tummyfill
- The zombie maid should no longer be dropping inappropriate treasure.
- Ghostly orcs are no longer classified as living orcs.
- Several items that drop in the zone had a stat increase.
- Fallen Nobles should no longer spawn inside walls.
- Some areas within the zone have been re-leveled.
- Players should now be able to retrieve their corpses from the Fallen Gate doors if they do not have a key to the zone.
- A dragoon guard near Theeral the Nomad has been removed.
- Giantslayers are now more plentiful.
- The class type of a Varsoon apprentice has been modified.
- Doomsquall and Grimfeather will no longer camp players at the zone line.
- The drop rates for items obtained from Doomsquall and Grimfeather have been modified.
- An additional respawn camp has been added into the zone.
- Triggers for the level 20 priest hallmark quest should now only appear when the player is on the proper stage.
- Infected burrowers and infected tomb vermin should no longer have pets.
- The Bandits involved in the Flowing Black Silk Sash quest will now despawn after a set amount of time if they are left untouched.
- Additional marine life has been added to water areas.
- Scarecrows should now show their names.
- Executor Adept Sal`ynelle has been moved to the Ironforge Estate.
- A Runnyeye armorer will no longer drop treasure associated with another NPC.
- The Creator should no longer break encounters when attacked.
- The secret entrance door linking Antonica and Stormhold must now be unlocked from inside Stormhold before it can be used.
- Several spells have been added to the treasure tables in Stormhold, Thundering Steppes, Nektulos Forest, the Crypt of Betrayal, and Edgewater Drains.
- The re-use timers for epic and instanced zones have been changed based on the level of the zone.
- Changes were made to instanced zone junctions to only allow up to the maximum number of people intended to enter the zone.
*** NPCs ***
- Lady Faideth will no longer attempt to appear to be male.
- Icsillinatis the Marrow Fiend and Captain Surestout should now drop items appropriate to the difficulty of their encounters.
- Bosses in Permafrost, Runnyeye Citadel, and Feerrott should now behave appropriately.
- Scribe Zizwold will no longer drop an owlbear feather.
- Players who end their conversation with Investigator Targok can now continue to receive their quests.
- The spawn time on Tinmizer's astounding frostdisruptors in Orcish Wastes and Enchanted Lands has been reduced.
- Tangle Weed's minions should now follow properly and not wander off on their own.
- Mender Manus will wait until you are closer to him before calling out.
- Chaplin Graveguzzle can now be found by looking in the proper location.
*** Mechanics ***
- Slightly increased the block rate of round shields.
- Adjusted shields to provide a more noticable benefit at higher levels of quality.
- The Safe Fall skill will now increase through use.
- The cost of light and higher armor types on vendors has been reduced.
- Scouts can attempt to disarm traps beyond their current skill level. Even if unsuccessful they have the chance to gain skill through use.
- Removed the ability for bralwers, monks, and bruisers to equip shields.
- Increased brawler Deflection to provide the equivalent of always having a buckler equipped.
- Increased monk and bruiser Deflection to provide the equivalent of always having a round shield equipped.
- The colors of certain ranger and monk armor quest rewards have been modified.
- The appearance of the level 20 bruiser quest armor has been changed.
- Band of the Soulstripper no longer looks like a chain chestpiece.
- The names of some Heritage Paintings have been corrected.
- The Ghoulbane will now do bane damage to the undead.
- The Fishbone Earring has been modified slightly.
- The Greater Lightstone will now shed a yellow light.
- The Charred Bone has been changed to No Trade, No Value, Lore.
- The stats of Cap of the Ethernere have been increased.
- A Glowing Black Stone has been changed to No Trade.
- The following items have been set to No Trade, Lore, and No Value: Crude Blueprint, Tattered Diary, Acidic Gland, Rat Collar, and a Trooper Signet.
- All Legend and Lore quest items should now be using the correct icon.
- Assault Axes have been changed to be one-handed instead of two-handed.
- The Shiny Brass Halberd has been made No Trade and Lore.
- Starfall no longer appears as a scourge and is more like the description given in the quest.
- Many new quest rewards and loot drops have been added to the game.
- All spell scrolls should now list the tier after the name instead of before it.
- Apprentice IV ward spells can now absorb an increased amount of damage.
- Class and Subclass "Vitae" lines of spells should now stack correctly.
- Odyssey has been changed to only be used on group/raid members.
- Protection of the Seasons now adds heat and cold resistances correctly.
- Ensnaring Roots, Grasping Roots, and Seizing Vines affect movement speed correctly.
- Decree of Decay has been fixed to allow the lifetap effect to work correctly.
- Wisdom of Zephyl increases skill with updgrades correctly.
- Frozen Manacle's root duration has been increased.
- The description for Venomous Runes was changed to be more reflective of the actual spell effect.
- Runic Shield had its description changed to be more clear.
- Spirit of the Rhino was fixed to allow application to the group. Note that this ward only protects against elemental and noxious damage.
- Umbral Fortitude should now increase divine resistance as intended.
- Sibyllant should now have its damage effect working properly.
- Noxious Bolt had its description clarified.
- Boon of the Lifeless had its description clarified.
- Flaming Agony now includes a DoT effect and had its spell icon changed.
- Quicksand had its movement decrease effect increased.
- Mend Bones should now cost the caster health as was intended.
- Spiritual Seal had its description clarified.
- Favor of the Phoenix should now only allow revival of the correct classes.
- There were many additional updates and fixes to address spell bugs and balance issues.
- Power Cleave should now be available on the appropriate merchants.
- Stealth abilities no longer stack.
- Focused Rage had its description clarified.
- Unfriendly Reminder should now lower the target's agility as intended.
- Ignore Pain should now increase in effectiveness with upgrades.
- Intimidating Orders should now increase in effectiveness with upgrades.
- Watery Shot should now reduce the target's power correctly.
- Break Through now has the correct skill requirement.
- Bob and Weave should now increase in effectiveness with upgrades.
- Kidney Blow had its description clarified.
- Haymaker should now increase in effectiveness with upgrades.
- Bouncer had its description clarified.
- Fury should now increase in effectiveness with upgrades.
- Grapple now includes a stun effect.
- Bloodlust should now increase in effectiveness with upgrades.
- There were many additional updates and fixes to address combat art bugs and balance issues.
- Several alchemy potions/poison recipes have been fixed.
- Society task rewards have been reduced.
- The Manastone Heritage quest recipe should now be working correctly.
- New raids are now available for guilds level 20 and 25.
- Alchemy Potions and Poisons have been changed to Baubles. They are no longer stackable and will use their charges properly.
- Multiple city writ quests can no longer be obtained from the same NPC.
- Fixed a bug that allowed city task NPCs to issue quests to players whose citizenship did not match that of their guild leader at the time of the guild's formation.
- The kill quotas have been reduced for the level 15+ Social Structure quests.
- New tradeskill quests have been created that reward players with guild experience and status points.
- Power Cleave can now be created using a tradeskill recipe.
- New tradeskill tasks are now available for players between level 30 and 50.
- Spell and combat art creation has been changed to allow for different qualities of scrolls to be created. Apprentice IV spells and arts will now result when a pristine spell or art is successfully made.
- Multiple fixes were made to advanced craftsman recipes.
- Reactive arts now share reuse timers across the same crafting lines.
- Stacking rules for the benefits received from reactive arts have been revised.
- Some special events have been changed in frequency and severity.
- Refine basil has been added to the Tradeskill Essentials 3 book. Players who have scribed this book automatically gain the ability to refine basil.
- Tin Plate now uses the correct tradeskill techniques to counter negative events.
- Player-crafted food and drink durations have been adjusted.
- Cream cheese has been added to tradeskill wholesalers.
- Edible refined components were removed from tradeskill vendors.
- Advanced Crafting Volumes should now work properly.
- Missing Adept III spell and art scrolls have been added to recipe books.
- The Outfitter Essential recipe for the Iron Crescent Axe has been fixed.
- Essence of Bully: Adept III has been added to Advanced Alchemist Vol. 45.
- Liquefied Sycamore has been added to scholar recipes.
- The iron bar recipe has been changed to use the correct knowledge types and techniques.
- Pristine versions of Carbonite Vanguard armor can now be created.
- Loss of harvesting skills should no longer occur when a character's tradeskill level is higher than the adventuring level.
- The burlap thread recipe has been changed to use the correct knowledge types and techniques.
- The iron plate recipe has been changed to use the correct knowledge types and techniques.
- The burlap yarn recipe has been changed to use the correct knowledge types and techniques.
- Status defrayment values have been added to in-game furniture items that did not previously have them.
- Guild followers can now use their status points to purchase items from City Merchants.
- Fixed shaders on fire beetle and gnoll LODs.
- Fixed combat states for gnolls and giants.
- Fixed skin weights on orc skeleton LODs and adjusted shaders, improved LOD tolerances.
- Fixed Venekor's breath attack.
- Made flies on diseased skeletons visible from further away.
- Whips can now be holstered when wielded in the secondary slot.
- Fixed orbs to show up when wielded in the secondary slot.
- Added eight new one-handed spears.
- Added eight new fighting sticks.
- Fixed some robe issues to allow helmets, hair, and bracers to display properly.
- Fixed bugs that caused players to fall below the world in Stonestair Byway, Starcrest Commune, and Freeport five-room apartments.
- Fixed some disappearing NPC issues in Graystone Yard and the Orcish Wastes.
- Made some minor cosmetic fixes to Qeynos Harbor and South Qeynos.
- Opened access to the bear caves in Nektulos Forest.
- Fixed some rock placements in Antonica.
- Improved the environment settings for the boats leading to Everfrost and Lavastorm.
- Improved door functionality in Solusek's Eye.
- Removed erroneous sound triggers from all harvesting visuals: fishing, gathering, mining, forestry, and trapping.
- Fixed these persist effects so they display on the creature and follow it better: stun, stone, poison, mesmerize, mental, energy, ice, divine, debuff, and fire.
- Shortened the initial result visual used on these spells: Eidolic Ward, Spectral Ward, Wards of Spirit, Oberon, Wakinya's Skin of Spirits, Everling's Cadaverous Ward, Cursed Affliction, Curse of Shielding, and Eidolic Savior.
- Fixed the dust fall effect used on many combat arts.
- The skull effect is now more visible in lifetap spells.
- Lightning bolt effect now displays properly on non-humanoid creatures and objects.
- Optimized the lightning bolt effect.
- Missing glows fixed in spell crystal pieces.
- Fixed all "animal" spell visuals so the initial conjuring effect is displayed.
*** Audio ***
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My initial post wasn't about the game being too hard or lack of quests, it was about lack of freedom and about too much linear gameplay and verbose quest dialogue.
Sony: "Here is our script, now read your line."
Player: "No, I don't want to read that line, I want to say what I want and go where I want."
Sony: "The cameras and lighting are all set up for you to step forward into Antonica and says these lines back and forth with our chosen NPC."
Player: "No, I don't want to do that. I'm a wandering Barbarian from the North and I want to travel where I like and talk to who I want, and most of all choose what I say."
Sony: "Sorry, but the script says you're a watered down Barbarian who lives in Qeynos and has lost his racial abilities over generations of sedentary life. Now the one major zone you can step out into is Antonica and there are NPC's who will have specific dialogue with you and your lines are pre-written. If you're going to advance, you're going to have to follow our script, or else, say, we can replace you. I hear Tom Cruise wants your part."
Player: "No, noooo, I'm a free-booting Barbarian and will choose my own path. Noooooo-"
[Sony deletes barbarian]
Huh? You make it sounds like it's a necessity to speak to NPC's. The only "scripted" parts that are even remotely close to what you are saying are the communications with NPC's. And as I stated before, do you have any clue how difficult it would be to incorporate a speech parser into the game to try to figure out what someone is typing? Or are you suggesting they actually hire someone to sit behind and play every NPC in the game?
You're suggestions here remind me of a guy I used to work with. He once told me he had a great idea to save the government money in Florida. His idea was before a hurricane hit, turn off all of the power lines so that if the storm ripped one down, it wouldn't cause a fire. So I asked him, ok, if you did that, how would they know what went down and where they would need to make repairs. As an afterthought he said, "Oh, just have repairmen drive around the state and check all of the lines before they turned the power back on."
Making a suggestion to fix something is all well and good, but, please try to remove the obvious flaws from the solution before suggesting it.
Very well said.
It seems like there are more posts on the EQ2 forum from people telling others how and why they have no right to express their opinions than in any other forum.
I can't understand why people who's belief in a game falls apart the moment it's criticized can't just click the X at the top right of their screen.
Very well said.
It seems like there are more posts on the EQ2 forum from people telling others how and why they have no right to express their opinions than in any other forum.
I can't understand why people who's belief in a game falls apart the moment it's criticized can't just click the X at the top right of their screen.
hm............... Everquest2 forums must mean.............WoW forums, where WoW fans can just flame all day, and you have to sift through billions of posts by these jackasses to find one informational post
Eq2 forums=WoWforums wow i'm intellegent
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The only problem I have with EQ2 is the same problem I had with EQ1. You have a real lack of choices when building your toon, its like having a certain portion of the game played for you. I think there are allot of great innovations in EQ2, I did get to level 30 during the beta and thought that allot of the game had a extremely masterful design, its just too newb centric. I want to be able to adjust all my stat point and skill point and I would like more skill tree options beyond your second class specializations (basically choosing your sub classes sets you down a different skill tree in my perspective). The fixed character paths really get on my nerves and keep me from enjoying any of the current batch of MMOs.
Just because you don't agree with my opinions it doesn't make them "flames", but the real paradox here is that you can't actually spell "intelligent".
If you don't like EQ2 firemagic, why not stay away from these forums. I understand you have the right to your own opinions and I'm not going to bash you because you don't like EQ2, but you have got to be one of the worst "flame war" starters on this entire site. Everywhere I look you're saying something bad about EQ2. Ok, we get it, you don't like EQ2. Let it go man. You're not going to suddenly change everyone's mind about EQ2. If we like it, we like it. If we don't, we don't. How about you go find a game you DO like and play it. Sound like a good idea? It does to me. And on a final note, you have got one of the most unoriginal usernames in history. The only reason I bring it up is because you feel you can make fun of someone for misspelling "intelligent," so I feel I can make fun of your shitty username. Cheers!
I do like your avatar though.
Stepping away from bashing the people that are bashing a game (believe me the irony is not lost on me), the problem I have with the original post, is it's not constructive, a lot of it is flat out not true. I mean if I said: I hate Star Wars Galaxies becasue you can't be a jedi, and to fix it they need to add jedi, how would that be considered constructive? Or if I said I don't like WoW becasue I can't play an undead character, to fix it you would need to add undead as a race. You can play as a Jedi and Undead is a race. So the post can't really be considered constructive.
LOL... Yeah my username does suck serious ass, but I wasn't aiming for originality or trying to impress anyone with it, and "Saigonshakes" was already taken.
Here's how I look at it... If my criticism has no effect on someones enjoyment of the game, then their enjoyment of the game is based on the fact that they've thought through what they like about it. You're obviously one of those people. Kudos.
But on the other side of the coin, a lot of people on these forums are obviously so upset by the truth in what I say that they start throwing insults to hide the fact that they can't defend their game, and to be blunt, this amuses me.
A lot of people decided they loved EQ2 and hated WoW before they even played either (I've played both btw) and these are the people who bust a vein every time I post.
I think WoW is a cool game. Never said I hated it at all. I just like EQ2 more. The reason I "bust a vein" is you are on almost every thread bashing EQ2. I'm just saying it's redundant now. We ALL know why you don't like EQ2 and SOE. It really has nothing to do with the fact that you don't like the game. That's your opinion and that's fine. But when it comes down to it you are the definition of a "troll" on forums. And nobody likes a troll.
By the way, sorry Saigonshakes was taken.
OK... Well as I explained elsewhere, a "troll" is someone who intentionally sets out to upset people, and whether you like it or not, that ain't me.
If these forums aren't for posting your opinions as you personally see them, then what are they for?
If I'm wrong on any given, please take the time and effort to correct me. Explain to me what details I've missed. But do not tell me to stop posting. If you disagree with my opinions, hallelujah... I'm happy for you, but you have no right to tell me what I can and can't post.
Thanks.
Hey i found quite a little post today. I saw you said WoW was "the best MMORPG ever" on the WoW forums. In my eyes, calling an MMORPG thats been out a month the best ever officially knocks down your credibility a few notches.
And I never said stop posting. I said stop posting here on the EQ2 side
Yup, because in my opinion it's the best MMORPG ever. It's blatantly stark-staring obvious even though it's only been out a month. Everything before it is just outclassed.
And no, I'll post wherever I like within the constraints of the forum rules.
Ok lets discuss WoW if we must. Best MMORPG ever? What about when everyones maxed in a couple of months? I played WoW, I really did and I tried to like it. But in the end it just didn't have enough content. WoW will be hot for a few months then it will slowly die away. Like it or not, it's true. I really thought you maybe has some coherent thoughts but proclaiming WoW best ever? Sad.
Sniff, sniff. I smell a fanboy!
It's no accident that levelling is fast in WoW - it was designed that way for reasons which at this point I'll assume are too complicated for your level of understanding. Not enough content? Ah yes - I suppose two cities chopped up into zones will offer more content than six cities with no loading screens. LOL. Please.
Also, that's an interesting debating style you have there, but stating opinions as uncontestable facts just makes you look like a poorly educated child.
Thanks for trying though. Let's see how things are in six months.
You'll catch up eventually
EDIT: I knew it wouldn't be long before you realised your argument was falling apart enough to evoke the word "fanboy", but as I've (also) explained before a "fanboy" is someone who buys a company's games regardless of how good they are, and that's not me. I preferred Rise of Nations to Warcraft III, and if a better MMO comes out within the next couple of years, I'll drop WoW and play that, so that kind of screws up your pitiful, childlike attempt at an argument.
God your wit never ceases to amaze me. Yeah you level fast because they have "casual" gamers in mind. Doesn't mean those "casual" gamers won't be maxed in a few months. Oh and you NEVER use your opinions to bash EQ2! Calling me a poorly educated child was a nice touch too. Man, insults over the internet are so hardcore. Honestly, how old are you? No lying eithier. Your answer could clear up a WHOLE lot of things for me.
Wow... You are truly gifted in your stupidity. I mean truly. YOU insulted ME, and then you have the lack of genitals to tell me insults are childish?
Look man... I'll level with you. I'm genuinely sorry I forced you realise what a piece of crap EQ2 is. It's obviously hurtin ya bad, but please stop blaming me for your own delusions. Look at it as a service from one gamer to another. You'll thank me later.
The fact you refused to answer the question about your age is an answer in itself. Sorry for all the misunderstandings. This is where I take my leave from responding to you. I hope you have fun with WoW, it is a good game. I'll stick with my piece of crap Eq2. You are right as always, you're not a fanboy even though you proclaimed WoW to be the best mmorpg ever. As always, your wit has me speechless, so i wish you the best. Sorry for all the harsh words, I'll now remeber to ask the age of the person I'm talking to, that way I can take there posts with a grain of salt. Enjoy life! Don't let us EQ2 fans get you down.
OK, we'll leave it there. The reason I didn't tell you my age is because whatever it is, you already have a ready made resolution for it, just as I've decided that whatever your age is, you're definitely mentally underdeveloped for it.
well since you bash eq2 so badly i know all about you . You are between the age of 14-16 juvrnile delinquent, childish, lives at home with parents and not to bright. EQ2 is the most fun i have ever had in front of a computer. I bought both eq2 and wow as soon as they released. I havent played WOW in 2 weeks now cause all it ever does is keep me pissed off everytime i try to play the stupid game.
EQ2 rocks and it never fails me and always runs perfectly with no lag or errors. Unlike WOW with it's constant lag bugs and errors drives me insane. EQ2 baby! All the way!
You have a lot of nerve to question my age and intelligence before you've even learned basic spelling and grammar.
Wrender, best peice of advice I can give you is "ignore".
Some people like Fords, some like Chevys, some like Handas (opps Hondas). The point i am making is that the world revolves around different opinions. If everyone liked the exact same thing, there would be little reason to innovate, no incentive to push the boundaries of what is possible. You say that WOW is not the best mmorpg because you find too little content. For you , this is true. For me, I find just the opposite to be true. That doesn't make either you or I the final arbitor of truth for the subject.
My problem is the tendency of some people to attack a PERSON who makes a statement of contrary opinion. Disagree with their opinion....fine. But just because they like something different does not make them evil, bad, ignorant, adolesent, etc. A forum is for the exchange of ideas, opinions, believes. To say that one should only post opinions that conform with any one belief rises to the worst form of censorship. Those of us that love a certain game are not harmed by the fact that someone else does not. So what justification could there be to rip someone apart simply because they like a different product?
Edit: I am 51 years old for any who might accuse me of being a pre-teen because I defend someones right to post thoughtful contrary opinions to ANY forum.