The more videos I watch about this game the more and more it starts to look like an asian grindfest with a new aiming system. Combat looks the same as any other MMO you have your 1-9 action bar buttons you just have an FPS style aiming reticle you have to keep on target. And reading about the different classes on the official site they seem like they will be missing something. Not sure what it is but I dont think this game will be as good as people think.
Said the ignorant troll.
Its funny how people take such serious offense when some one else doesnt like the game they do and express their feelings about it. So I get insulted because I think this game is lacking. Really goes to show how mature gamers are today, disagree with something and your automatically ignorant because you have an opionion and your a troll if you join a discussion and express it. What a sad day and age this has become.
I really do pitty you skoupidi..
Ok then just give a link or something with some evidence about the game being an "asian grindfest" as you keep saying.
I dont know what you expect from combat, but having to dodge,block,parry manually is a big step forward.Or you can just go back to afk button smashing if thats what you like.I dont know where your info is coming from, but i havent found any list with complete character skills yet.Since in their official site there is only a basic overview of each class and some of their skills.
If you just dont like the game keep away from this games threads.Or atleast bring in some argument, not just fluffy air troll talking.
Watch the vidceos and tell me they dont look like every other grinder out there.
The videos clearly show the combat between a player and a monster, nothing else. How you made the connection to a grinder is beyond me.
Thats just one vid there are dozens out if you looked. And a few that show an uncanny resemblance to the already exisiting Grinders out.
And who cares about actual skills in game if you again watch the vids you can clearly see they use the same action bar set up as everyone else. The only real difference is the aiming reticle and manual dodge and block.
An MMO is using hotbars...We are doomed! If you don't like hotbars then you better not consider the MMO gaming anymore. The difference in this MMO IS the aiming reticle and the manual dodge and block. This is what it does different than other MMOs and it is as far as a game can go when talking about the combat aspect. Maybe you think they should use chips that are injected in our brains so we can finally play an MMO without a hotbar? It sounds good I know. Might take some time before we see something like this tho.
I have no clue what your going on about here I simply stated this part of it looks the same as any other MMO that is all.
Now if you pay any attention the the actual videos it shows that a beserker an actual dps class can block attacks and take no damage so what is the point of making a tank? which was my point in the first place the classes seem lacking, mainly because there is not any real reason to roll one or the other. Other than to have a different name to your class. If a dpser can block just as well as a tank why even have classes?
DO SOME GOD DAMN RESEARCH. The berserker is not a tanking class. The ONLY tanking abilities they got is an AoE taunt with a BIG cooldown and a blocking skill which reduces damages taken by 75% and has a chance at failing to do so. Take WoW for example, just because a rogue has an evasion skill on 5min cd DOES NOT mean it can tank a fucking boss. A berserker can only attempt to tank when say the tank dies and again you are pretty much fucked.
I never said it was a tank class i simply stated it seems to be doing the same as the tank classes with the blocking. And that its classified as a dps on the official site, so what do we need tanks for if your dps can block just as a tank. No need to get angry.
So instead of throwing out insults like some ADHD baby watch the vids and you will see everthing i just mentioned. And read the official sites description of the warrior a dual weilding light armor class that tanks by defensive rolling and tell me that sounds cool. What i see with that is a tank jumpin all over the place and the other toons in group chasing a mob around missing left and right because they cant keep the creature in their aiming reticles.
Congrats, you just made an opinion of the class out of a minute-length video, or should I say of the whole game? Again, the one who needs to read the discriptions and search some info is you. The tanking classes are 2, the lancer who relies on head-to-head combat and blocking and the warrior who excells at dodging and is highly fragile. A berserker is able to tank a mob woohoo, I can tank a mob with my priest in WoW for 5 minutes! I'm a tank! Sense much? I know it doesn't sound logical to me either.
Actually the vid on this thread is 14 mins long you must not have watched it. And there is a difference soloing and tanking my point is if the dps zerker can block and taunt like a tank why would we need a tank just roll a dper with the ability to tank and get the best of both worlds.
I have read all the official site has to offer and i have watched many vids because I hoped this would be different but its not. I see all the same crap you get in a typical Asian grinder accept for the combat but with the current set up even that is lacking. It may be a step forward but like many others with innovative ideas they just didnt get it right, so some one else hopefully will.
You have read one description and watched 5 vids at maximum and already judge the game down-right. Yet, I'm asking you, how come every professional journalist on conventions, or someone who tested the korean beta has nothing but positive things to say about the combat and the game? Unless you like to be proven wrong every time why don't you simply stop posting since the things you have to say hold no base at all.
Well like i stated before since you obviously havent read a thing or cant. I am simply stating my OPINION. And could care less what some journalist thinks. I am stating my OPINION which is what these forums are for, im sorry you cannot control your anger enough to understant not everyone sees things the same way you do but thats life you might want to try to get used to it. And just a side note shit loads of Professional Journalist on conventions said AoC and WAR were great too and we all seen how that turned out.
p.s the beginning of this thread has a link to a vidoe or did you not watch it?
The more videos I watch about this game the more and more it starts to look like an asian grindfest it's funny how racist like throw that one around. with a >>>new aiming system. >Combat looks the same as any other MMO< you have your 1-9 action bar buttons you just have an FPS style aiming reticle you have to keep on target. <<< Way to contradict yourself, gratz. And reading about the different classes on the official site they seem like they will be missing something. Right... but obviously you can't say what. The classes are awesome & if there's one thing that could be considered missing is a better character creation tool, that's it. Not sure what it is but I dont think this game will be as good as people think. Go back drooling over rift please.
Said the ignorant troll. spot on
Its funny how people take such serious offense when some one else doesnt like the game they do and express their feelings about it. So I get insulted because I think this game is lacking. Really goes to show how mature gamers are today, disagree with something and your automatically ignorant because you have an opionion and your a troll if you join a discussion and express it. What a sad day and age this has become.
You do like to talk through your arse do you... You ARE ignorant & you ARE a troll. You can't back anything you say but with crap. You even contradict yourself in trying to find something to moan about ffs. Now be gone.
I really do pitty you skoupidi.. You really think he or anyone should care?
If you like the same old same old tab targeting with static combat you already know where to find it.
Everyone that I know of that tryed this combat system loved it & say its fun, refreshing & engaging... Have fun trying to prove otherwise.
Alright so lets try this, why dont you do the same thing and find some information out there that proves me wrong. You cant so again like stated before i came here like everyone else to express my opinion. If you dont like it so what I dont care but when you stoop to insulting some one because their OPINION is different than yours and you start calling names like Racists and Trolls you truly do deserve pity for your own ignorance. So because this game resembles the rest of the GRINDERS that come from ASIA and i simply say it looks like the rest of the ASIAN GRINDERS i am a racists LOL you guys really do need to get out of the basement and breathe some fresh air.
I could really care less if my post convinces any one of anything I am simply utilizing these forums for what they are designed for. To express my opinion simply because it doesnt match yours in no way makes me a racist or a troll. Grow up really.
If you actually want to post an opinion about any game in any forum,where other people can read and answer, you need to have to back it up with actual facts.
You are just attacking the game for no reason other than "i dont like it".And you dig up flaws that dont even exist.
Sorry but we cant read your mind, you have to provide us with actual facts about the features you dont like in this game.We, on the other hand care more for NOT having you in the TERA community.
Well the very definition of OPNIOIN means i need no facts. If i were to back up my OPINION with facts it would no longer be OPINION it would then become fact. my orignal statment simply said i feel that this game is lacking that is all its my opinion i need no facts to support my feeling. I never insulted anyone at any time, but I got these insta hate insults for not feeling completely enthralled about this game like others. Im sorry that fanbois dont like people that dont feel the same way they do. If dont like me posting in their threads tuff shit one its not here for them only and thats what these forums are for. To express opinion or facts and to attempt to hold civilized conversations about them. But what we got here was the opposite, we have some one being attacked personally for simply not feeling the same way as others. Its quite sad actually and if this is the temprament of the TERA community then maybe most of us civilized people should stay away because this will go the way of the WoW community that most of us are completely sick of.
Alright so lets try this, why dont you do the same thing and find some information out there that proves me wrong. The info is all there man, vids, comments from people that tried the game, how every classes have a distinct feel & mechanic to them, like other posters here are trying to make you see, etc. You cant so again like stated before i came here like everyone else to express my opinion. No, you come here to wash us in your ignorant drivel. If you dont like it so what I dont care but when you stoop to insulting some one because their OPINION To have an opinion you 1st have to be informed, which you aren't obviously is different than yours and you start calling names like Racists and Trolls anyone that spit asian grinder to everythign that comes out of asia as some kind of insult is just that. Like if Asia has ever produce anything but F2P grinder... sigh. you truly do deserve pity for your own ignorance. Oh boy.. the pitty line again, really! So because this game resembles the rest of the GRINDERS that come from ASIA and i simply say it looks like the rest of the ASIAN GRINDERS How did you come to that conclusion?! You know any other action MMORPG coming from asia or MMO with that high lvl of quality in design to it? Come back when you find one... i am a racists everything leads me to believe that , yes, you are indead one marvelous specimen( one amongst the hoard that infest gaming. Biggots /racists / homophobes, etc. ) LOL you guys really do need to get out of the basement and breathe some fresh air. I'm the one saying this, so please leave the "you guys" out. I understand that when you are proven wrong, & that you are out of arguments, it must be recomforting to go back to the good old cliché lines... I'm affraid that it doesn't give you anymore weight in the matter though.
I could really care less if my post convinces any one of anything I am simply utilizing these forums for what they are designed for. To express my opinion simply because it doesnt match yours in no way makes me a racist or a troll. I see that you still don't understand Grow up really. lol
I think I've said enough... This exchange is over as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: An opinion is based on factual information... you sunk your own ship there. Ignorance at its finest.
Alright so lets try this, why dont you do the same thing and find some information out there that proves me wrong. The info is all there man, vids, comments from people that tried the game, how every classes have a distinct feel & mechanic to them, like other posters here are trying to make you see, etc. You cant so again like stated before i came here like everyone else to express my opinion. No, you come here to wash us in your ignorant drivel. If you dont like it so what I dont care but when you stoop to insulting some one because their OPINION To have an opinion you 1st have to be informed, which you aren't obviously is different than yours and you start calling names like Racists and Trolls anyone that spit asian grinder to everythign that comes out of asia as some kind of insult is just that. Like if Asia has ever produce anything but F2P grinder... sigh. you truly do deserve pity for your own ignorance. Oh boy.. the pitty line again, really! So because this game resembles the rest of the GRINDERS that come from ASIA and i simply say it looks like the rest of the ASIAN GRINDERS How did you come to that conclusion?! You know any other action MMORPG coming from asia or MMO with that high lvl of quality in design to it? Come back when you find one... i am a racists everything leads me to believe that , yes, you are indead one marvelous specimen( one amongst the hoard that infest gaming. Biggots /racists / homophobes, etc. ) LOL you guys really do need to get out of the basement and breathe some fresh air. I'm the one saying this, so please leave the "you guys" out. I understand that when you are proven wrong, & that you are out of arguments, it must be recomforting to go back to the good old cliché lines... I'm affraid that it doesn't give you anymore weight in the matter though.
I could really care less if my post convinces any one of anything I am simply utilizing these forums for what they are designed for. To express my opinion simply because it doesnt match yours in no way makes me a racist or a troll. I see that you still don't understand Grow up really. lol
I think I've said enough... This exchange is over as far as I'm concerned.
Heh all i see is more insults your good at that but it doesnt seem like your much good at anything else you still havent provided any facts that say my opinion is wrong just some mess about other people think this game is great but not anything that directly proves me wrong in thinking this game isnt like any other grinder available today. You say the info is there but provide to links or the like to support it and yet you want me to provide facts to support my side. And as stated before if I were to provide FACTS to back up my opinion and feeling then it would no longer be an opionion it would then become a fact.
And if people that call games that come from Asia that have nothing but heavy grinds to them Asian grinders are racists your an idiot. Not anywhere in that statement says anything even close to resembly comments about Asians just says that the other games that come from Asia that are grinders are simply referred to as asian grinders. Just like most everything that comes from the west are referred to as wow clones its a way to describe a style of game.
Edit: read this it might enlighten you and i hate to drop to your level but before you post know what your talking about. Opinion has nothing to do with factual anything.
The more videos I watch about this game the more and more it starts to look like an asian grindfest it's funny how racist like throw that one around. with a >>>new aiming system. >Combat looks the same as any other MMO< you have your 1-9 action bar buttons you just have an FPS style aiming reticle you have to keep on target. <<< Way to contradict yourself, gratz. And reading about the different classes on the official site they seem like they will be missing something. Right... but obviously you can't say what. The classes are awesome & if there's one thing that could be considered missing is a better character creation tool, that's it. Not sure what it is but I dont think this game will be as good as people think. Go back drooling over rift please.
Said the ignorant troll. spot on
Its funny how people take such serious offense when some one else doesnt like the game they do and express their feelings about it. So I get insulted because I think this game is lacking. Really goes to show how mature gamers are today, disagree with something and your automatically ignorant because you have an opionion and your a troll if you join a discussion and express it. What a sad day and age this has become.
You do like to talk through your arse do you... You ARE ignorant & you ARE a troll. You can't back anything you say but with crap. You even contradict yourself in trying to find something to moan about ffs. Now be gone.
I really do pitty you skoupidi.. You really think he or anyone should care?
If you like the same old same old tab targeting with static combat you already know where to find it.
Everyone that I know of that tryed this combat system loved it & say its fun, refreshing & engaging... Have fun trying to prove otherwise.
Alright so lets try this, why dont you do the same thing and find some information out there that proves me wrong. You cant so again like stated before i came here like everyone else to express my opinion. If you dont like it so what I dont care but when you stoop to insulting some one because their OPINION is different than yours and you start calling names like Racists and Trolls you truly do deserve pity for your own ignorance. So because this game resembles the rest of the GRINDERS that come from ASIA and i simply say it looks like the rest of the ASIAN GRINDERS i am a racists LOL you guys really do need to get out of the basement and breathe some fresh air.
I could really care less if my post convinces any one of anything I am simply utilizing these forums for what they are designed for. To express my opinion simply because it doesnt match yours in no way makes me a racist or a troll. Grow up really.
If you actually want to post an opinion about any game in any forum,where other people can read and answer, you need to have to back it up with actual facts.
You are just attacking the game for no reason other than "i dont like it".And you dig up flaws that dont even exist.
Sorry but we cant read your mind, you have to provide us with actual facts about the features you dont like in this game.We, on the other hand care more for NOT having you in the TERA community.
Well the very definition of OPNIOIN means i need no facts. If i were to back up my OPINION with facts it would no longer be OPINION it would then become fact. my orignal statment simply said i feel that this game is lacking that is all its my opinion i need no facts to support my feeling. I never insulted anyone at any time, but I got these insta hate insults for not feeling completely enthralled about this game like others. Im sorry that fanbois dont like people that dont feel the same way they do. If dont like me posting in their threads tuff shit one its not here for them only and thats what these forums are for. To express opinion or facts and to attempt to hold civilized conversations about them. But what we got here was the opposite, we have some one being attacked personally for simply not feeling the same way as others. Its quite sad actually and if this is the temprament of the TERA community then maybe most of us civilized people should stay away because this will go the way of the WoW community that most of us are completely sick of.
And I could just go on some random forum and write "Hey guy this game is teh suxz0rzz!", it doesn't mean people would take me seriously. An opinion can either be based on facts (e.g. someone doesn't like the cartoonish character models of swtor) or on ignorance (e.g. this game looks like a grinder although I've never played it)
An opinion is a subjective statement or thought about an issue or topic, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. An opinion may be supported by an argument, although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts. ...
The more videos I watch about this game the more and more it starts to look like an asian grindfest it's funny how racist like throw that one around. with a >>>new aiming system. >Combat looks the same as any other MMO< you have your 1-9 action bar buttons you just have an FPS style aiming reticle you have to keep on target. <<< Way to contradict yourself, gratz. And reading about the different classes on the official site they seem like they will be missing something. Right... but obviously you can't say what. The classes are awesome & if there's one thing that could be considered missing is a better character creation tool, that's it. Not sure what it is but I dont think this game will be as good as people think. Go back drooling over rift please.
Said the ignorant troll. spot on
Its funny how people take such serious offense when some one else doesnt like the game they do and express their feelings about it. So I get insulted because I think this game is lacking. Really goes to show how mature gamers are today, disagree with something and your automatically ignorant because you have an opionion and your a troll if you join a discussion and express it. What a sad day and age this has become.
You do like to talk through your arse do you... You ARE ignorant & you ARE a troll. You can't back anything you say but with crap. You even contradict yourself in trying to find something to moan about ffs. Now be gone.
I really do pitty you skoupidi.. You really think he or anyone should care?
If you like the same old same old tab targeting with static combat you already know where to find it.
Everyone that I know of that tryed this combat system loved it & say its fun, refreshing & engaging... Have fun trying to prove otherwise.
Alright so lets try this, why dont you do the same thing and find some information out there that proves me wrong. You cant so again like stated before i came here like everyone else to express my opinion. If you dont like it so what I dont care but when you stoop to insulting some one because their OPINION is different than yours and you start calling names like Racists and Trolls you truly do deserve pity for your own ignorance. So because this game resembles the rest of the GRINDERS that come from ASIA and i simply say it looks like the rest of the ASIAN GRINDERS i am a racists LOL you guys really do need to get out of the basement and breathe some fresh air.
I could really care less if my post convinces any one of anything I am simply utilizing these forums for what they are designed for. To express my opinion simply because it doesnt match yours in no way makes me a racist or a troll. Grow up really.
If you actually want to post an opinion about any game in any forum,where other people can read and answer, you need to have to back it up with actual facts.
You are just attacking the game for no reason other than "i dont like it".And you dig up flaws that dont even exist.
Sorry but we cant read your mind, you have to provide us with actual facts about the features you dont like in this game.We, on the other hand care more for NOT having you in the TERA community.
Well the very definition of OPNIOIN means i need no facts. If i were to back up my OPINION with facts it would no longer be OPINION it would then become fact. my orignal statment simply said i feel that this game is lacking that is all its my opinion i need no facts to support my feeling. I never insulted anyone at any time, but I got these insta hate insults for not feeling completely enthralled about this game like others. Im sorry that fanbois dont like people that dont feel the same way they do. If dont like me posting in their threads tuff shit one its not here for them only and thats what these forums are for. To express opinion or facts and to attempt to hold civilized conversations about them. But what we got here was the opposite, we have some one being attacked personally for simply not feeling the same way as others. Its quite sad actually and if this is the temprament of the TERA community then maybe most of us civilized people should stay away because this will go the way of the WoW community that most of us are completely sick of.
And I could just go on some random forum and write "Hey guy this game is teh suxz0rzz!", it doesn't mean people would take me seriously. An opinion can either be based on facts (e.g. someone doesn't like the cartoonish character models of swtor) or on ignorance (e.g. this game looks like a grinder although I've never played it)
Well isnt that the whole point, since none of us have played so me stating an Opinion based on what i have seen so far is no more off than you stating yours just because we dont agree does in no way mean either of us are wrong or ingorant just means that we have differing opinions. And again if you read any of my post i have stated several times in my examples that the zerker being able to tank or block as a tank seems off specially since there are 2 official tanks. So there is some factual gargain in there but again my opinion was based off of a feeling i got while whatcing this vid and the others on youtube and the various other sources as well as reading the official site class descritions. I am sorry i do not agree with you but I could easily say your argument is based on ingnorance if we are basing all of this on whether or not we have played it yet. And saying this game looks like a grinder fits just fine with not having played it yet. If I would have said this game feels like a grinder having not played it yet would be wrong.
But your very arguement of what an opinion is and how we can and do form such opinions is off completely. We as people do not have to actually interact with something to form an opinion of it. We can read about it watch a movie or trailer or even hear about it, In my case I watched a few vids then read what i could on the official site, then formed an opinion based on the FEELING I got afterwards.
Edit: Now all of this could have been avoided completely if instead of attacking me personally some one would have simply pointed out some information that I may not have come into contact with i.e. an unoffical site with some interviews or something along those lines. Maybe then my opinion coule have been changed or my eyes opened due to being exposed to information i have not been exposed to previously. But what happend was about the worse way to handle some one that has a differing opinion, personal attacks with not a single shred of proof from your side will never win any debate nor will it ever enlighten anyone to anything but your own short commings. And when I say your I do not mean you personally i just mean all of the posts that took to insults right away and not a single bit of constructive conversation.
An opinion is a subjective statement or thought about an issue or topic, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. An opinion may be supported by an argument, although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts. ...
Thats from your own link. rofl
Now, I'm done. Have a nice day!
I can do that too.
a message expressing a belief about something; the expression of a belief that is held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof; "his opinions appeared frequently on the editorial page"
or
a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty; "my opinion differs from yours"; "I am not of your persuasion"; "what are your thoughts on Haiti?"
from the same link so you see opinions do not have to be based on fact at all.
They can come from a feeling or emotion having read the sites and watched the vids i formed an opinion based on my feelings.
Edit: so again you prove not a thing other than we disagree, but nothing that you have posted proves that i formed my opinion without having researched.
The more videos I watch about this game the more and more it starts to look like an asian grindfest it's funny how racist like throw that one around. with a >>>new aiming system. >Combat looks the same as any other MMO< you have your 1-9 action bar buttons you just have an FPS style aiming reticle you have to keep on target. <<< Way to contradict yourself, gratz. And reading about the different classes on the official site they seem like they will be missing something. Right... but obviously you can't say what. The classes are awesome & if there's one thing that could be considered missing is a better character creation tool, that's it. Not sure what it is but I dont think this game will be as good as people think. Go back drooling over rift please.
Said the ignorant troll. spot on
Its funny how people take such serious offense when some one else doesnt like the game they do and express their feelings about it. So I get insulted because I think this game is lacking. Really goes to show how mature gamers are today, disagree with something and your automatically ignorant because you have an opionion and your a troll if you join a discussion and express it. What a sad day and age this has become.
You do like to talk through your arse do you... You ARE ignorant & you ARE a troll. You can't back anything you say but with crap. You even contradict yourself in trying to find something to moan about ffs. Now be gone.
I really do pitty you skoupidi.. You really think he or anyone should care?
If you like the same old same old tab targeting with static combat you already know where to find it.
Everyone that I know of that tryed this combat system loved it & say its fun, refreshing & engaging... Have fun trying to prove otherwise.
Alright so lets try this, why dont you do the same thing and find some information out there that proves me wrong. You cant so again like stated before i came here like everyone else to express my opinion. If you dont like it so what I dont care but when you stoop to insulting some one because their OPINION is different than yours and you start calling names like Racists and Trolls you truly do deserve pity for your own ignorance. So because this game resembles the rest of the GRINDERS that come from ASIA and i simply say it looks like the rest of the ASIAN GRINDERS i am a racists LOL you guys really do need to get out of the basement and breathe some fresh air.
I could really care less if my post convinces any one of anything I am simply utilizing these forums for what they are designed for. To express my opinion simply because it doesnt match yours in no way makes me a racist or a troll. Grow up really.
If you actually want to post an opinion about any game in any forum,where other people can read and answer, you need to have to back it up with actual facts.
You are just attacking the game for no reason other than "i dont like it".And you dig up flaws that dont even exist.
Sorry but we cant read your mind, you have to provide us with actual facts about the features you dont like in this game.We, on the other hand care more for NOT having you in the TERA community.
Well the very definition of OPNIOIN means i need no facts. If i were to back up my OPINION with facts it would no longer be OPINION it would then become fact. my orignal statment simply said i feel that this game is lacking that is all its my opinion i need no facts to support my feeling. I never insulted anyone at any time, but I got these insta hate insults for not feeling completely enthralled about this game like others. Im sorry that fanbois dont like people that dont feel the same way they do. If dont like me posting in their threads tuff shit one its not here for them only and thats what these forums are for. To express opinion or facts and to attempt to hold civilized conversations about them. But what we got here was the opposite, we have some one being attacked personally for simply not feeling the same way as others. Its quite sad actually and if this is the temprament of the TERA community then maybe most of us civilized people should stay away because this will go the way of the WoW community that most of us are completely sick of.
And I could just go on some random forum and write "Hey guy this game is teh suxz0rzz!", it doesn't mean people would take me seriously. An opinion can either be based on facts (e.g. someone doesn't like the cartoonish character models of swtor) or on ignorance (e.g. this game looks like a grinder although I've never played it)
Well isnt that the whole point, since none of us have played so me stating an Opinion based on what i have seen so far is no more off than you stating yours just because we dont agree does in no way mean either of us are wrong or ingorant just means that we have differing opinions. And again if you read any of my post i have stated several times in my examples that the zerker being able to tank or block as a tank seems off specially since there are 2 official tanks. So there is some factual gargain in there but again my opinion was based off of a feeling i got while whatcing this vid and the others on youtube and the various other sources as well as reading the official site class descritions. I am sorry i do not agree with you but I could easily say your argument is based on ingnorance if we are basing all of this on whether or not we have played it yet. And saying this game looks like a grinder fits just fine with not having played it yet. If I would have said this game feels like a grinder having not played it yet would be wrong.
But your very arguement of what an opinion is and how we can and do form such opinions is off completely. We as people do not have to actually interact with something to form an opinion of it. We can read about it watch a movie or trailer or even hear about it, In my case I watched a few vids then read what i could on the official site, then formed an opinion based on the FEELING I got afterwards.
Edit: Now all of this could have been avoided completely if instead of attacking me personally some one would have simply pointed out some information that I may not have come into contact with i.e. an unoffical site with some interviews or something along those lines. Maybe then my opinion coule have been changed or my eyes opened due to being exposed to information i have not been exposed to previously. But what happend was about the worse way to handle some one that has a differing opinion, personal attacks with not a single shred of proof from your side will never win any debate nor will it ever enlighten anyone to anything but your own short commings. And when I say your I do not mean you personally i just mean all of the posts that took to insults right away and not a single bit of constructive conversation.
I give up with this guy, cant really waste more time on trying to prove obvious things.
The more videos I watch about this game the more and more it starts to look like an asian grindfest it's funny how racist like throw that one around. with a >>>new aiming system. >Combat looks the same as any other MMO< you have your 1-9 action bar buttons you just have an FPS style aiming reticle you have to keep on target. <<< Way to contradict yourself, gratz. And reading about the different classes on the official site they seem like they will be missing something. Right... but obviously you can't say what. The classes are awesome & if there's one thing that could be considered missing is a better character creation tool, that's it. Not sure what it is but I dont think this game will be as good as people think. Go back drooling over rift please.
Said the ignorant troll. spot on
Its funny how people take such serious offense when some one else doesnt like the game they do and express their feelings about it. So I get insulted because I think this game is lacking. Really goes to show how mature gamers are today, disagree with something and your automatically ignorant because you have an opionion and your a troll if you join a discussion and express it. What a sad day and age this has become.
You do like to talk through your arse do you... You ARE ignorant & you ARE a troll. You can't back anything you say but with crap. You even contradict yourself in trying to find something to moan about ffs. Now be gone.
I really do pitty you skoupidi.. You really think he or anyone should care?
If you like the same old same old tab targeting with static combat you already know where to find it.
Everyone that I know of that tryed this combat system loved it & say its fun, refreshing & engaging... Have fun trying to prove otherwise.
Alright so lets try this, why dont you do the same thing and find some information out there that proves me wrong. You cant so again like stated before i came here like everyone else to express my opinion. If you dont like it so what I dont care but when you stoop to insulting some one because their OPINION is different than yours and you start calling names like Racists and Trolls you truly do deserve pity for your own ignorance. So because this game resembles the rest of the GRINDERS that come from ASIA and i simply say it looks like the rest of the ASIAN GRINDERS i am a racists LOL you guys really do need to get out of the basement and breathe some fresh air.
I could really care less if my post convinces any one of anything I am simply utilizing these forums for what they are designed for. To express my opinion simply because it doesnt match yours in no way makes me a racist or a troll. Grow up really.
If you actually want to post an opinion about any game in any forum,where other people can read and answer, you need to have to back it up with actual facts.
You are just attacking the game for no reason other than "i dont like it".And you dig up flaws that dont even exist.
Sorry but we cant read your mind, you have to provide us with actual facts about the features you dont like in this game.We, on the other hand care more for NOT having you in the TERA community.
Well the very definition of OPNIOIN means i need no facts. If i were to back up my OPINION with facts it would no longer be OPINION it would then become fact. my orignal statment simply said i feel that this game is lacking that is all its my opinion i need no facts to support my feeling. I never insulted anyone at any time, but I got these insta hate insults for not feeling completely enthralled about this game like others. Im sorry that fanbois dont like people that dont feel the same way they do. If dont like me posting in their threads tuff shit one its not here for them only and thats what these forums are for. To express opinion or facts and to attempt to hold civilized conversations about them. But what we got here was the opposite, we have some one being attacked personally for simply not feeling the same way as others. Its quite sad actually and if this is the temprament of the TERA community then maybe most of us civilized people should stay away because this will go the way of the WoW community that most of us are completely sick of.
And I could just go on some random forum and write "Hey guy this game is teh suxz0rzz!", it doesn't mean people would take me seriously. An opinion can either be based on facts (e.g. someone doesn't like the cartoonish character models of swtor) or on ignorance (e.g. this game looks like a grinder although I've never played it)
Well isnt that the whole point, since none of us have played so me stating an Opinion based on what i have seen so far is no more off than you stating yours just because we dont agree does in no way mean either of us are wrong or ingorant just means that we have differing opinions. And again if you read any of my post i have stated several times in my examples that the zerker being able to tank or block as a tank seems off specially since there are 2 official tanks. So there is some factual gargain in there but again my opinion was based off of a feeling i got while whatcing this vid and the others on youtube and the various other sources as well as reading the official site class descritions. I am sorry i do not agree with you but I could easily say your argument is based on ingnorance if we are basing all of this on whether or not we have played it yet. And saying this game looks like a grinder fits just fine with not having played it yet. If I would have said this game feels like a grinder having not played it yet would be wrong.
But your very arguement of what an opinion is and how we can and do form such opinions is off completely. We as people do not have to actually interact with something to form an opinion of it. We can read about it watch a movie or trailer or even hear about it, In my case I watched a few vids then read what i could on the official site, then formed an opinion based on the FEELING I got afterwards.
Edit: Now all of this could have been avoided completely if instead of attacking me personally some one would have simply pointed out some information that I may not have come into contact with i.e. an unoffical site with some interviews or something along those lines. Maybe then my opinion coule have been changed or my eyes opened due to being exposed to information i have not been exposed to previously. But what happend was about the worse way to handle some one that has a differing opinion, personal attacks with not a single shred of proof from your side will never win any debate nor will it ever enlighten anyone to anything but your own short commings. And when I say your I do not mean you personally i just mean all of the posts that took to insults right away and not a single bit of constructive conversation.
I give up with this guy, cant really waste more time on trying to prove obvious things.
But you have yet to do anything but attack me with insults. I see no links or anything pointing to information that may PROVE anything.
So you want "links" that prove the game is not an asian grinder? Great, this make as much sense as asking in swtor forums proof that the game has no boat races...The proof is that a company based on US was found from many industry veterans in order to make the game appeal to people in the west. And what people in the US don't like? Asian grinding HERP DERP
So you want "links" that prove the game is not an asian grinder? Great, this make as much sense as asking in swtor forums proof that the game has no boat races...The proof is that a company based on US was found from many industry veterans in order to make the game appeal to people in the west. And what people in the US don't like? Asian grinding HERP DERP
This and cba looking for the actual link to provide it to the "omg its and Asian grind game since its asian" troll.
So you want "links" that prove the game is not an asian grinder? Great, this make as much sense as asking in swtor forums proof that the game has no boat races...The proof is that a company based on US was found from many industry veterans in order to make the game appeal to people in the west. And what people in the US don't like? Asian grinding HERP DERP
But hold on a sec, you guys wanted me to provide proof supporting it is and now you think its wrong for me to ask for something proving its not?
They may very well be trying not to provide us with the stero typical grinder but that doesnt mean they will succeed. All I have been saying is it seems like it will be. Hopefully they will succeed but trying and doing are two different things.
Ok i am lost..why so much hair pulling over term 'asian grinder'? only because its asian doesn't mean it has to be grind. Has this guy even playd the game to form an opinion? sounds like someone is just biased to Asian MMO genre and just want to cry and stomp feet like a baby.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no? Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
Ok i am lost..why so much hair pulling over term 'asian grinder'? only because its asian doesn't mean it has to be grind. Has this guy even playd the game to form an opinion? sounds like someone is just biased to Asian MMO genre and just want to cry and stomp feet like a baby.
Never said just becasue its Asian it has to be a grinder i mearly used the term to describe how i felt this game may turn out. then some one else said i was racist for doing so. Its no different than using the term WoW clone to describe a certain type of game. Its simply a term used to describe the play style, it in no way implies any hatred towards Asians at all, or even the genre. Just saying i felt like it may go down that path that is all.
Ok i am lost..why so much hair pulling over term 'asian grinder'? only because its asian doesn't mean it has to be grind. Has this guy even playd the game to form an opinion? sounds like someone is just biased to Asian MMO genre and just want to cry and stomp feet like a baby.
Never said just becasue its Asian it has to be a grinder i mearly used the term to describe how i felt this game may turn out. then some one else said i was racist for doing so. Its no different than using the term WoW clone to describe a certain type of game. Its simply a term used to describe the play style, it in no way implies any hatred towards Asians at all, or even the genre. Just saying i felt like it may go down that path that is all.
Seems like you are backing out bud. You made the right choice in the end. You said it's an asian grinder simply by watching a "berzerker video" this screams "ITS AZN SO IT HAZ TO BE A GRINDER".
So you want "links" that prove the game is not an asian grinder? Great, this make as much sense as asking in swtor forums proof that the game has no boat races...The proof is that a company based on US was found from many industry veterans in order to make the game appeal to people in the west. And what people in the US don't like? Asian grinding HERP DERP
But hold on a sec, you guys wanted me to provide proof supporting it is and now you think its wrong for me to ask for something proving its not?
They may very well be trying not to provide us with the stero typical grinder but that doesnt mean they will succeed. All I have been saying is it seems like it will be. Hopefully they will succeed but trying and doing are two different things.
Hmmm yes? Cause u speak of it as an Asian grinder based on nothing. Go figure why we keep saying you are ignorant.
And again there is a whole team behind the Westernized version of TERA (EU/NA). Based in Seattle with some A-level talent people; industry vets from Blizzard, Microsoft, EA, ArenaNet, NCsoft and BioWare are all on the project. It seems apparent these folks know the market and understand what MMOers desire.
Ok i am lost..why so much hair pulling over term 'asian grinder'? only because its asian doesn't mean it has to be grind. Has this guy even playd the game to form an opinion? sounds like someone is just biased to Asian MMO genre and just want to cry and stomp feet like a baby.
Never said just becasue its Asian it has to be a grinder i mearly used the term to describe how i felt this game may turn out. then some one else said i was racist for doing so. Its no different than using the term WoW clone to describe a certain type of game. Its simply a term used to describe the play style, it in no way implies any hatred towards Asians at all, or even the genre. Just saying i felt like it may go down that path that is all.
Seems like you are backing out bud. You made the right choice in the end. You said it's an asian grinder simply by watching a "berzerker video" this screams "ITS AZN SO IT HAZ TO BE A GRINDER".
Actually i said i formed this opinion after watching several vids and visiting the official site. Lets not try to maniupulate words, there is not one spot in any of my posts where i said because its asian it HAS to be a grinder.
Its a commonly used and accepted term used everywhere to describe a play style that orginated from games like silk road and Rappelz. Asian grinder is an accepted term in the gaming community and you can acutally use it in serches to find specific style of games.
I havent backed out of anything i still have the feeling that this game may turn out to be an Asian grind style game. And having quests doesnt mean it wont be. Even Silk Road and Aion have quest but yet they are still called Asian Grinders.
I hope it doesnt turn out to be that style of game but right now to me it seems like it will be, but untill they open the beta up to people outside of Korea no one will know for sure if it is or isnt.
Ok i am lost..why so much hair pulling over term 'asian grinder'? only because its asian doesn't mean it has to be grind. Has this guy even playd the game to form an opinion? sounds like someone is just biased to Asian MMO genre and just want to cry and stomp feet like a baby.
Never said just becasue its Asian it has to be a grinder i mearly used the term to describe how i felt this game may turn out. then some one else said i was racist for doing so. Its no different than using the term WoW clone to describe a certain type of game. Its simply a term used to describe the play style, it in no way implies any hatred towards Asians at all, or even the genre. Just saying i felt like it may go down that path that is all.
Seems like you are backing out bud. You made the right choice in the end. You said it's an asian grinder simply by watching a "berzerker video" this screams "ITS AZN SO IT HAZ TO BE A GRINDER".
Actually i said i formed this opinion after watching several vids and visiting the official site. Lets not try to maniupulate words, there is not one spot in any of my posts where i said because its asian it HAS to be a grinder.
Its a commonly used and accepted term used everywhere to describe a play style that orginated from games like silk road and Rappelz. Asian grinder is an accepted term in the gaming community and you can acutally use it in serches to find specific style of games.
I havent backed out of anything i still have the feeling that this game may turn out to be an Asian grind style game. And having quests doesnt mean it wont be. Even Silk Road and Aion have quest but yet they are still called Asian Grinders.
I hope it doesnt turn out to be that style of game but right now to me it seems like it will be, but untill they open the beta up to people outside of Korea no one will know for sure if it is or isnt.
So I'm asking you, how did you come to the conclusion it's a grinder simply from videos that show nothing but combat? Ahh, I know it's that "feeling" right...
Ok i am lost..why so much hair pulling over term 'asian grinder'? only because its asian doesn't mean it has to be grind. Has this guy even playd the game to form an opinion? sounds like someone is just biased to Asian MMO genre and just want to cry and stomp feet like a baby.
Never said just becasue its Asian it has to be a grinder i mearly used the term to describe how i felt this game may turn out. then some one else said i was racist for doing so. Its no different than using the term WoW clone to describe a certain type of game. Its simply a term used to describe the play style, it in no way implies any hatred towards Asians at all, or even the genre. Just saying i felt like it may go down that path that is all.
Seems like you are backing out bud. You made the right choice in the end. You said it's an asian grinder simply by watching a "berzerker video" this screams "ITS AZN SO IT HAZ TO BE A GRINDER".
Actually i said i formed this opinion after watching several vids and visiting the official site. Lets not try to maniupulate words, there is not one spot in any of my posts where i said because its asian it HAS to be a grinder.
Its a commonly used and accepted term used everywhere to describe a play style that orginated from games like silk road and Rappelz. Asian grinder is an accepted term in the gaming community and you can acutally use it in serches to find specific style of games.
I havent backed out of anything i still have the feeling that this game may turn out to be an Asian grind style game. And having quests doesnt mean it wont be. Even Silk Road and Aion have quest but yet they are still called Asian Grinders.
I hope it doesnt turn out to be that style of game but right now to me it seems like it will be, but untill they open the beta up to people outside of Korea no one will know for sure if it is or isnt.
Stuborn this troll is stuborn. So let me get it straight. You watched some "korean client" vids from lvl 10-20 content and your brain indicates to you that its an asian grinder?Based on f^cking what?!?
Ok i am lost..why so much hair pulling over term 'asian grinder'? only because its asian doesn't mean it has to be grind. Has this guy even playd the game to form an opinion? sounds like someone is just biased to Asian MMO genre and just want to cry and stomp feet like a baby.
Never said just becasue its Asian it has to be a grinder i mearly used the term to describe how i felt this game may turn out. then some one else said i was racist for doing so. Its no different than using the term WoW clone to describe a certain type of game. Its simply a term used to describe the play style, it in no way implies any hatred towards Asians at all, or even the genre. Just saying i felt like it may go down that path that is all.
Seems like you are backing out bud. You made the right choice in the end. You said it's an asian grinder simply by watching a "berzerker video" this screams "ITS AZN SO IT HAZ TO BE A GRINDER".
Actually i said i formed this opinion after watching several vids and visiting the official site. Lets not try to maniupulate words, there is not one spot in any of my posts where i said because its asian it HAS to be a grinder.
Its a commonly used and accepted term used everywhere to describe a play style that orginated from games like silk road and Rappelz. Asian grinder is an accepted term in the gaming community and you can acutally use it in serches to find specific style of games.
I havent backed out of anything i still have the feeling that this game may turn out to be an Asian grind style game. And having quests doesnt mean it wont be. Even Silk Road and Aion have quest but yet they are still called Asian Grinders.
I hope it doesnt turn out to be that style of game but right now to me it seems like it will be, but untill they open the beta up to people outside of Korea no one will know for sure if it is or isnt.
Stuborn this troll is stuborn. So let me get it straight. You watched some "korean client" vids from lvl 10-20 content and your brain indicates to you that its an asian grinder?Based on f^cking what?!?
Would you please enlighten us?
It's his magical feelings bud. Calm down he might be a keyboard prophet.
Watching vids like this one you can see a very vivid similarity to the current known grinders out there. You run around in an area with lots of the same kinda mobs and kill as many as you can. You see this in Aion you see this in Silk Road you see this in Rappelz and others. The similarities are there if you choose not to see them its not my fault but they are there. Thats all that I am saying after seeing this and a few others I get the feeling that it might be more on the Asian grind side than anything else.
Even the grouping vids show the same kinda stuff take your group find a mass of mobs and kill em all. It maybe be different but all that is available shows its not. And as far as devs go i dont trust em as far as i can throw them. We got the same kinda mess from WAR the devs tell us one thing but when you get to it, its not anything like they led us to believe.
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Well the very definition of OPNIOIN means i need no facts. If i were to back up my OPINION with facts it would no longer be OPINION it would then become fact. my orignal statment simply said i feel that this game is lacking that is all its my opinion i need no facts to support my feeling. I never insulted anyone at any time, but I got these insta hate insults for not feeling completely enthralled about this game like others. Im sorry that fanbois dont like people that dont feel the same way they do. If dont like me posting in their threads tuff shit one its not here for them only and thats what these forums are for. To express opinion or facts and to attempt to hold civilized conversations about them. But what we got here was the opposite, we have some one being attacked personally for simply not feeling the same way as others. Its quite sad actually and if this is the temprament of the TERA community then maybe most of us civilized people should stay away because this will go the way of the WoW community that most of us are completely sick of.
I think I've said enough... This exchange is over as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: An opinion is based on factual information... you sunk your own ship there. Ignorance at its finest.
Heh all i see is more insults your good at that but it doesnt seem like your much good at anything else you still havent provided any facts that say my opinion is wrong just some mess about other people think this game is great but not anything that directly proves me wrong in thinking this game isnt like any other grinder available today. You say the info is there but provide to links or the like to support it and yet you want me to provide facts to support my side. And as stated before if I were to provide FACTS to back up my opinion and feeling then it would no longer be an opionion it would then become a fact.
And if people that call games that come from Asia that have nothing but heavy grinds to them Asian grinders are racists your an idiot. Not anywhere in that statement says anything even close to resembly comments about Asians just says that the other games that come from Asia that are grinders are simply referred to as asian grinders. Just like most everything that comes from the west are referred to as wow clones its a way to describe a style of game.
Edit: read this it might enlighten you and i hate to drop to your level but before you post know what your talking about. Opinion has nothing to do with factual anything.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:opinion&sa=X&ei=EjEETdvAGoL58Aa6isHnAg&sqi=2&ved=0CBYQkAE
And I could just go on some random forum and write "Hey guy this game is teh suxz0rzz!", it doesn't mean people would take me seriously. An opinion can either be based on facts (e.g. someone doesn't like the cartoonish character models of swtor) or on ignorance (e.g. this game looks like a grinder although I've never played it)
@ Soraksis:
An opinion is a subjective statement or thought about an issue or topic, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts. An opinion may be supported by an argument, although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts. ...
Thats from your own link. rofl
Now, I'm done. Have a nice day!
Well isnt that the whole point, since none of us have played so me stating an Opinion based on what i have seen so far is no more off than you stating yours just because we dont agree does in no way mean either of us are wrong or ingorant just means that we have differing opinions. And again if you read any of my post i have stated several times in my examples that the zerker being able to tank or block as a tank seems off specially since there are 2 official tanks. So there is some factual gargain in there but again my opinion was based off of a feeling i got while whatcing this vid and the others on youtube and the various other sources as well as reading the official site class descritions. I am sorry i do not agree with you but I could easily say your argument is based on ingnorance if we are basing all of this on whether or not we have played it yet. And saying this game looks like a grinder fits just fine with not having played it yet. If I would have said this game feels like a grinder having not played it yet would be wrong.
But your very arguement of what an opinion is and how we can and do form such opinions is off completely. We as people do not have to actually interact with something to form an opinion of it. We can read about it watch a movie or trailer or even hear about it, In my case I watched a few vids then read what i could on the official site, then formed an opinion based on the FEELING I got afterwards.
Edit: Now all of this could have been avoided completely if instead of attacking me personally some one would have simply pointed out some information that I may not have come into contact with i.e. an unoffical site with some interviews or something along those lines. Maybe then my opinion coule have been changed or my eyes opened due to being exposed to information i have not been exposed to previously. But what happend was about the worse way to handle some one that has a differing opinion, personal attacks with not a single shred of proof from your side will never win any debate nor will it ever enlighten anyone to anything but your own short commings. And when I say your I do not mean you personally i just mean all of the posts that took to insults right away and not a single bit of constructive conversation.
I can do that too.
a message expressing a belief about something; the expression of a belief that is held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof; "his opinions appeared frequently on the editorial page"
or
a personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty; "my opinion differs from yours"; "I am not of your persuasion"; "what are your thoughts on Haiti?"
from the same link so you see opinions do not have to be based on fact at all.
They can come from a feeling or emotion having read the sites and watched the vids i formed an opinion based on my feelings.
Edit: so again you prove not a thing other than we disagree, but nothing that you have posted proves that i formed my opinion without having researched.
I give up with this guy, cant really waste more time on trying to prove obvious things.
But you have yet to do anything but attack me with insults. I see no links or anything pointing to information that may PROVE anything.
tera-online.com knock yourself out.
So you want "links" that prove the game is not an asian grinder? Great, this make as much sense as asking in swtor forums proof that the game has no boat races...The proof is that a company based on US was found from many industry veterans in order to make the game appeal to people in the west. And what people in the US don't like? Asian grinding HERP DERP
This and cba looking for the actual link to provide it to the "omg its and Asian grind game since its asian" troll.
But hold on a sec, you guys wanted me to provide proof supporting it is and now you think its wrong for me to ask for something proving its not?
They may very well be trying not to provide us with the stero typical grinder but that doesnt mean they will succeed. All I have been saying is it seems like it will be. Hopefully they will succeed but trying and doing are two different things.
Tera = THE best choice for your 2011 MMORPG. End of discussion.
Ok i am lost..why so much hair pulling over term 'asian grinder'? only because its asian doesn't mean it has to be grind. Has this guy even playd the game to form an opinion? sounds like someone is just biased to Asian MMO genre and just want to cry and stomp feet like a baby.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
Never said just becasue its Asian it has to be a grinder i mearly used the term to describe how i felt this game may turn out. then some one else said i was racist for doing so. Its no different than using the term WoW clone to describe a certain type of game. Its simply a term used to describe the play style, it in no way implies any hatred towards Asians at all, or even the genre. Just saying i felt like it may go down that path that is all.
Seems like you are backing out bud. You made the right choice in the end. You said it's an asian grinder simply by watching a "berzerker video" this screams "ITS AZN SO IT HAZ TO BE A GRINDER".
Lmao,what a dumb discussion.
En Masse has already stated that the progression in this game is quest based,with more than 1000 quests at launch.
He hates the game because Tera is skill based,and not gear based.
BTW,how can you "feel" that a game is a grind with gameplay videos? wtf?
Sorry,try again.
Hmmm yes? Cause u speak of it as an Asian grinder based on nothing. Go figure why we keep saying you are ignorant.
And again there is a whole team behind the Westernized version of TERA (EU/NA). Based in Seattle with some A-level talent people; industry vets from Blizzard, Microsoft, EA, ArenaNet, NCsoft and BioWare are all on the project. It seems apparent these folks know the market and understand what MMOers desire.
And again its everything at Tera-online.com
Actually i said i formed this opinion after watching several vids and visiting the official site. Lets not try to maniupulate words, there is not one spot in any of my posts where i said because its asian it HAS to be a grinder.
Its a commonly used and accepted term used everywhere to describe a play style that orginated from games like silk road and Rappelz. Asian grinder is an accepted term in the gaming community and you can acutally use it in serches to find specific style of games.
I havent backed out of anything i still have the feeling that this game may turn out to be an Asian grind style game. And having quests doesnt mean it wont be. Even Silk Road and Aion have quest but yet they are still called Asian Grinders.
I hope it doesnt turn out to be that style of game but right now to me it seems like it will be, but untill they open the beta up to people outside of Korea no one will know for sure if it is or isnt.
So I'm asking you, how did you come to the conclusion it's a grinder simply from videos that show nothing but combat? Ahh, I know it's that "feeling" right...
Stuborn this troll is stuborn. So let me get it straight. You watched some "korean client" vids from lvl 10-20 content and your brain indicates to you that its an asian grinder?Based on f^cking what?!?
Would you please enlighten us?
It's his magical feelings bud. Calm down he might be a keyboard prophet.
Watching vids like this one you can see a very vivid similarity to the current known grinders out there. You run around in an area with lots of the same kinda mobs and kill as many as you can. You see this in Aion you see this in Silk Road you see this in Rappelz and others. The similarities are there if you choose not to see them its not my fault but they are there. Thats all that I am saying after seeing this and a few others I get the feeling that it might be more on the Asian grind side than anything else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh6bZmC3IVQ&feature=relate
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Even the grouping vids show the same kinda stuff take your group find a mass of mobs and kill em all. It maybe be different but all that is available shows its not. And as far as devs go i dont trust em as far as i can throw them. We got the same kinda mess from WAR the devs tell us one thing but when you get to it, its not anything like they led us to believe.