I think Rift, Tera, GW2, SWTOR, and Earthrise will be the best games in their respective sub-markets to the audience they are developed for.
That's kind of a silly statement. You could say the same about ANY game.
FFXIV is the best game in it's submarket to the audience it was developed for, ie. the people that like no quests and silly repetitive kill x of y mob quests.
Etc, pick ANY mmo no matter how crappy and your statement holds completely true. Every game no matter how bad it is has a fan base, hence it was developed for that base of fans and is the best game for those people.
Battlecruiser 3000ad has a tiny but almost religious following. Most people would say it's a horrid mess of a game. But to the people it was developed for it's the best.
See where i'm going? There's absolutely nothing rift is doing that other games haven't done. The similarities between rift and warhammer are huge. The sound effects are terrible and the combat is clunky and slow and dull with no flare or anything interesting going on. The game seems to have little depth. I'm sure someone will like it, but i've seen it all before and done better. I don't think rift will have much success other than the people that rush to try the new kid on the block only to find out it's nothing new and leave before their 30 days areup.
It will be solid, it will be successful. But DCUO is more fun and WOW is leaps and bounds ahead of it.
Most likely people attracted to DCUO will not like Rift and vice-versa. The playstyles are too different. For the record, DCUo was okay for me but I wasn't impressed enough to buy it.
The thing Rift has over WOW is that it might appeal to burntout WOW players like myself. I have been playing WOW since release in 2004 and right no with CATA, the burnout is catching up to me.
Rift may feel like more of the same but its a different more of the same.Its like playing Age of Empires 1, 2, and 3 and then Rise of Nations. yes, they all feel the same because they are RTS but each game has its own unique differences if you look close enough.
To you I guess. To me though, its plate of more of the same with a side order of moreofthesame with extra MotS (More of the Same).
I am a day 1 vip beta tester and could only play for maybe an hour of the first beta before I saw that it was not my kind of game. I did not even play the second beta and have uninstalled the game so no 3rd beta for me either. I will say that Rift is a very polished game and I do think it will do well. Rift is for people who like the quest based themepark game play and there are alot of people out there who like this. I am more of an open world free roam mmo player so no Rift for me but I wish it luck.
I am a day 1 vip beta tester and could only play for maybe an hour of the first beta before I saw that it was not my kind of game. I did not even play the second beta and have uninstalled the game so no 3rd beta for me either. I will say that Rift is a very polished game and I do think it will do well. Rift is for people who like the quest based themepark game play and there are alot of people out there who like this. I am more of an open world free roam mmo player so no Rift for me but I wish it luck.
And yet you're waiting for Tera and Blade & Soul... are we expected to take anything you said seriously?
It is true that Trion/Rift impress me with alot of things. It's remarkably polished and Trion is the first company i see seriously improving their game on a patch-to-patch basis, at least for the beta.
The soulsystem is a big chunk they bit off, but i can very well imagine them being able to handle it in the future, while tons of other games never got a basic balance up, most of them not even after years. And finally we have a game with more than just a handfull of classes again.
I like the art style and graphics and while i'm not a lore-hound, it's still somewhat interesting to follow what's going on there.
In short: Trion shows that they know their business, plus i like their attitude towards their players/testers.
BUT:
If it wouldn't be the same-o-same old gameplay! I'm losing interest so fast, i haven't played any class above lvl12 (and that is about where they start off a bit more). Click, kill, loot.."kill X of Y", "collect that sparkling item" -oh not again.
Trion, you just can't lure the WOW-mongers away from their game as they are currently hooked in Cata. And those who after ~10years are tired of this certain gameplay you won't lure into Rift either. Do you want us to moan about "potential..." and "it could have been great..." again?
Rift belongs to the top..but wiith it's gameplay, it won't make it there having just no target audience.
I am a day 1 vip beta tester and could only play for maybe an hour of the first beta before I saw that it was not my kind of game. I did not even play the second beta and have uninstalled the game so no 3rd beta for me either. I will say that Rift is a very polished game and I do think it will do well. Rift is for people who like the quest based themepark game play and there are alot of people out there who like this. I am more of an open world free roam mmo player so no Rift for me but I wish it luck.
And yet you're waiting for Tera and Blade & Soul... are we expected to take anything you said seriously?
I dont care what you take seriously. If you like Rift then thats good for you but do you actually think that everybody is going to play this game? Dont be stupid.
And whats wrong with Tera and Blade & Soul. Since you seem to have played them can you tell us about them?
It has nothing to do with me likeing rift or not. It has it's good points, and plenty of things to work on.
What's wrong with Tera and Blade & Soul? I don't recall ever saying there was anything wrong with it. I just found it odd/hypocritical that you criticized rift for being a "quest based themepark"... a perfect description for Tera and Blade & Soul.
I am loving the game,my only problem is that it's even more easy than wow...
I always end fights with mobs of my lvl with 90-95% hp (with no heals),and you auto regenerate all your hp in 10-15 seconds after a fight just standing there,not even sitting or eating something.
I have a Rogue and a Cleric,both lvl 20,and i never had 1 second of downtime...
Also the global cooldown makes the combat feel clunky.
I'm suprised to be even saying this because I had no intentions of buying Rift at all nor was I even concerned about beta testing Rift. I was all set to play DCUO but because DCUO lacks content I just couldn't bare the thought of paying for a game that will last me 2 months at best. Then I remembered I still have my beta key invite from Gamespot to beta test Rift and I am so glad I did. The game is well polished and quite honestly it is the most fun I had playing a mmo since my days of FFXI.
Pros:
1. Rift events are fun and grant you nice exp and rep points. They might be pqs in WAR but Trion does it alot better.
2. The soul system is great. Make any character type you can come up with. They let you play it your way. Alot of replayability here.
3. Community seems alot better than most mmos I have played in and that is a big plus.
4. No cartoony characters.
5. NPCs aren't dumbed down for the masses so that you can rush to raid end game.
6. The immersion of the game is really good.
7. No forced grouping or forced pvp.
8. Plenty of raid content if you like raiding for gear.
9. The best CE offer I have ever seen.
10. Trion cares about their game and their players.
11. Combat is smooth and fun.
Cons:
1. Still needs more polish but it is still beta.
2. Balance issues for pvp might be a concern.
3. Trion is still an unkown and might have a tough time getting the recognition it deserves.
well though out post, you have done your research and seem more intelligent than 95% of posters here, but you are loosing credibility with highly slanted opinionated thread titles like this.
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I am a day 1 vip beta tester and could only play for maybe an hour of the first beta before I saw that it was not my kind of game. I did not even play the second beta and have uninstalled the game so no 3rd beta for me either. I will say that Rift is a very polished game and I do think it will do well. Rift is for people who like the quest based themepark game play and there are alot of people out there who like this. I am more of an open world free roam mmo player so no Rift for me but I wish it luck.
And yet you're waiting for Tera and Blade & Soul... are we expected to take anything you said seriously?
I dont care what you take seriously. If you like Rift then thats good for you but do you actually think that everybody is going to play this game? Dont be stupid.
And whats wrong with Tera and Blade & Soul. Since you seem to have played them can you tell us about them?
It has nothing to do with me likeing rift or not. It has it's good points, and plenty of things to work on.
What's wrong with Tera and Blade & Soul? I don't recall ever saying there was anything wrong with it. I just found it odd/hypocritical that you criticized rift for being a "quest based themepark"... a perfect description for Tera and Blade & Soul.
Tera is an Open World, Non Linear mmo where the players will have control and influence on the world through Politics which is very similar to the game that I am currently playing today. Blade and Soul is a mmo thats going to be heavily Story Driven thats promises no grind and is going for new more action style combat. Both of these games are trying to do things different from recent mmos while Rift does nonthing different and is just more of the same. Have you read the post in this thread?
You are simply a person that has no idea what he is talking about so please do research next time before posting.
I am a day 1 vip beta tester and could only play for maybe an hour of the first beta before I saw that it was not my kind of game. I did not even play the second beta and have uninstalled the game so no 3rd beta for me either. I will say that Rift is a very polished game and I do think it will do well. Rift is for people who like the quest based themepark game play and there are alot of people out there who like this. I am more of an open world free roam mmo player so no Rift for me but I wish it luck.
And yet you're waiting for Tera and Blade & Soul... are we expected to take anything you said seriously?
I dont care what you take seriously. If you like Rift then thats good for you but do you actually think that everybody is going to play this game? Dont be stupid.
And whats wrong with Tera and Blade & Soul. Since you seem to have played them can you tell us about them?
It has nothing to do with me likeing rift or not. It has it's good points, and plenty of things to work on.
What's wrong with Tera and Blade & Soul? I don't recall ever saying there was anything wrong with it. I just found it odd/hypocritical that you criticized rift for being a "quest based themepark"... a perfect description for Tera and Blade & Soul.
Themepark mmo doesn't mean they will be another hand holding game with 3534646 easy quests with no soul.
This game like the rest on your list will end up having a small ammount of sub's . Nothing in this game really screams amazing and new to make it the next big thing . I have no doubt it will stay alive but to claim it to be the best game or really any better then the games you listed or any game we already have is just kinda silly. The game playes like 90% of the MMOs we have nothing new here.
People who love wow will go back to wow because its better and has way to much content and people looking for somthing new will soon find out there isnt anything new here and move on.
Both of these games are trying to do things different from recent mmos while Ritt does nonthing different and is just more of the same. Have you read the post in this thread?
You are simply a person that has no idea what he is talking about so please do reseach next time before posting.
Please read this article about where Rift is really different from other boring themeparks like tera and b&s:
It tries to bring back the danger and the thrill to the game, one thing that made me quit wow, aoc, aion and all the other player-always-wins-"games"...
And please do not call other people being uninformed while posting pure lies in the same phrase...
Dinking around in it.... not sure what's so great. Not too far into it but feels much like most other mmo's out there. Not sure what it is about the way that the game feels, it feels like what would happen if Lineage 2/Aion and WAR had a kid. Not to bash the game.... Lineage 2 I played for a bit after leaving SWG for the first time lol. Just not sure if its my cup of tea yet.
Some will like it, some will hate it. Some, like myself, will be pretty indifferent to the whole thing.
I challenge you to die in this game,it's impossible.
Well,only if you pull 7 mobs at the same time and you don't run away.
Actually the mobs pull you. Ever got caught by an invasion while playing solo? Ever got one or two adds by roaming mobs in the 15+ areas? Running away will not help you - you are simply dead.
Both of these games are trying to do things different from recent mmos while Ritt does nonthing different and is just more of the same. Have you read the post in this thread?
You are simply a person that has no idea what he is talking about so please do reseach next time before posting.
Please read this article about where Rift is really different from other boring themeparks like tera and b&s:
And please do not call other people being uninformed while posting pure lies in the same phrase...
You sound like an idoit calling games boring themeparks and you have not even played them. Why should I have to read something when I have played Rift and can play at any time of any beta? Also since the NDA is lifted people are now talking about the game in detail.
/ fail some more
Got you. You didn't play rift as well and called it boring (and spending 3 hours in the noob zone doesn't mean anything) :P
I challenge you to die in this game,it's impossible.
Well,only if you pull 7 mobs at the same time and you don't run away.
Actually the mobs pull you. Ever got caught by an invasion while playing solo? Ever got one or two adds by roaming mobs in the 15+ areas? Running away will not help you - you are simply dead.
Ever got beyond level 10???
I have 20 chars at lvl 20.
The invasions are a joke,i aggroed 1 and i was able to ran away.
And it's really easy to avoid them,just look at the map,lol.
Both of these games are trying to do things different from recent mmos while Ritt does nonthing different and is just more of the same. Have you read the post in this thread?
You are simply a person that has no idea what he is talking about so please do reseach next time before posting.
Please read this article about where Rift is really different from other boring themeparks like tera and b&s:
And please do not call other people being uninformed while posting pure lies in the same phrase...
You sound like an idoit calling games boring themeparks and you have not even played them. Why should I have to read something when I have played Rift and can play at any time of any beta? Also since the NDA is lifted people are now talking about the game in detail.
/ fail some more
Got you. You didn't play rift as well and called it boring (and spending 3 hours in the noob zone doesn't mean anything) :P
I find the play-style bland (typical MMO but not captivating at all from the outset) but most shockingly the quality of the graphics is terrible, it looks like something from 2005 even with every setting cranked to max on my reasonably decent PC.
I'd put the graphics quality on about par with RoM, close up some of the player models look OK (just OK) but overall it cannot hold a candle to the likes of games like Aion or even games like CODMW:2 for example. I even prefer the art style of WoW with the recent texture resolution update. AAA+ game this is not.
No doubt the game will appeal to some, certainly the beta is filled with people who are loving it but my advice is to try before you buy with this one. Definitely a thumbs down to the OP from my experience.
Also, I'd like to add my support to the lack of communication from Trion with its player base. Experienced this first hand sadly.
hahaha get real alrdy...I have seen a lot of people say the same thing about Aion, AoC, WAR, STO, etc...
I WILL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT !
QUESTION: Quote: Originally Posted by Xridnasa: - What's a "grocery store"? Is that like McDonald's? - ANSWER: Quote: Originally Posted by sidimazz: - Kind of, just without the rapist.
Wish I could get into beta so I could make a decision on this game.
Even in beta it's not easy to decide... After beta 1 and 2 I thought OMG, I already played that f****** questchain-game ten thousand times. And in beta 3 the rifts and invasions hooked me. The opinions about Rift are varying from "seen that, done that" to "this is true next gen". And both opinions are somewhat right...
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That's kind of a silly statement. You could say the same about ANY game.
FFXIV is the best game in it's submarket to the audience it was developed for, ie. the people that like no quests and silly repetitive kill x of y mob quests.
Etc, pick ANY mmo no matter how crappy and your statement holds completely true. Every game no matter how bad it is has a fan base, hence it was developed for that base of fans and is the best game for those people.
Battlecruiser 3000ad has a tiny but almost religious following. Most people would say it's a horrid mess of a game. But to the people it was developed for it's the best.
See where i'm going? There's absolutely nothing rift is doing that other games haven't done. The similarities between rift and warhammer are huge. The sound effects are terrible and the combat is clunky and slow and dull with no flare or anything interesting going on. The game seems to have little depth. I'm sure someone will like it, but i've seen it all before and done better. I don't think rift will have much success other than the people that rush to try the new kid on the block only to find out it's nothing new and leave before their 30 days areup.
To you I guess. To me though, its plate of more of the same with a side order of moreofthesame with extra MotS (More of the Same).
This is not a game.
How can Rift be the best at anything when it's mediocre in everything?
I am a day 1 vip beta tester and could only play for maybe an hour of the first beta before I saw that it was not my kind of game. I did not even play the second beta and have uninstalled the game so no 3rd beta for me either. I will say that Rift is a very polished game and I do think it will do well. Rift is for people who like the quest based themepark game play and there are alot of people out there who like this. I am more of an open world free roam mmo player so no Rift for me but I wish it luck.
And yet you're waiting for Tera and Blade & Soul... are we expected to take anything you said seriously?
It is true that Trion/Rift impress me with alot of things. It's remarkably polished and Trion is the first company i see seriously improving their game on a patch-to-patch basis, at least for the beta.
The soulsystem is a big chunk they bit off, but i can very well imagine them being able to handle it in the future, while tons of other games never got a basic balance up, most of them not even after years. And finally we have a game with more than just a handfull of classes again.
I like the art style and graphics and while i'm not a lore-hound, it's still somewhat interesting to follow what's going on there.
In short: Trion shows that they know their business, plus i like their attitude towards their players/testers.
BUT:
If it wouldn't be the same-o-same old gameplay! I'm losing interest so fast, i haven't played any class above lvl12 (and that is about where they start off a bit more). Click, kill, loot.."kill X of Y", "collect that sparkling item" -oh not again.
Trion, you just can't lure the WOW-mongers away from their game as they are currently hooked in Cata. And those who after ~10years are tired of this certain gameplay you won't lure into Rift either. Do you want us to moan about "potential..." and "it could have been great..." again?
Rift belongs to the top..but wiith it's gameplay, it won't make it there having just no target audience.
Rift = Generic MMO number 3298 - Nothing special.
It has nothing to do with me likeing rift or not. It has it's good points, and plenty of things to work on.
What's wrong with Tera and Blade & Soul? I don't recall ever saying there was anything wrong with it. I just found it odd/hypocritical that you criticized rift for being a "quest based themepark"... a perfect description for Tera and Blade & Soul.
I am loving the game,my only problem is that it's even more easy than wow...
I always end fights with mobs of my lvl with 90-95% hp (with no heals),and you auto regenerate all your hp in 10-15 seconds after a fight just standing there,not even sitting or eating something.
I have a Rogue and a Cleric,both lvl 20,and i never had 1 second of downtime...
Also the global cooldown makes the combat feel clunky.
well though out post, you have done your research and seem more intelligent than 95% of posters here, but you are loosing credibility with highly slanted opinionated thread titles like this.
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Tera is an Open World, Non Linear mmo where the players will have control and influence on the world through Politics which is very similar to the game that I am currently playing today. Blade and Soul is a mmo thats going to be heavily Story Driven thats promises no grind and is going for new more action style combat. Both of these games are trying to do things different from recent mmos while Rift does nonthing different and is just more of the same. Have you read the post in this thread?
You are simply a person that has no idea what he is talking about so please do research next time before posting.
Themepark mmo doesn't mean they will be another hand holding game with 3534646 easy quests with no soul.
This game like the rest on your list will end up having a small ammount of sub's . Nothing in this game really screams amazing and new to make it the next big thing . I have no doubt it will stay alive but to claim it to be the best game or really any better then the games you listed or any game we already have is just kinda silly. The game playes like 90% of the MMOs we have nothing new here.
People who love wow will go back to wow because its better and has way to much content and people looking for somthing new will soon find out there isnt anything new here and move on.
Please read this article about where Rift is really different from other boring themeparks like tera and b&s:
http://horrifticintentions.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/in-rift-the-rides-come-to-you/
It tries to bring back the danger and the thrill to the game, one thing that made me quit wow, aoc, aion and all the other player-always-wins-"games"...
And please do not call other people being uninformed while posting pure lies in the same phrase...
Currently playing: EverQuest
Waiting for Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
Dinking around in it.... not sure what's so great. Not too far into it but feels much like most other mmo's out there. Not sure what it is about the way that the game feels, it feels like what would happen if Lineage 2/Aion and WAR had a kid. Not to bash the game.... Lineage 2 I played for a bit after leaving SWG for the first time lol. Just not sure if its my cup of tea yet.
Some will like it, some will hate it. Some, like myself, will be pretty indifferent to the whole thing.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/7300033012
I challenge you to die in this game,it's impossible.
Well,only if you pull 7 mobs at the same time and you don't run away.
Actually the mobs pull you. Ever got caught by an invasion while playing solo? Ever got one or two adds by roaming mobs in the 15+ areas? Running away will not help you - you are simply dead.
Ever got beyond level 10???
Currently playing: EverQuest
Waiting for Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
Got you. You didn't play rift as well and called it boring (and spending 3 hours in the noob zone doesn't mean anything) :P
Currently playing: EverQuest
Waiting for Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
I have 20 chars at lvl 20.
The invasions are a joke,i aggroed 1 and i was able to ran away.
And it's really easy to avoid them,just look at the map,lol.
Now this is awesome, kudos!
(can you provide a screenshot, please?)
Currently playing: EverQuest
Waiting for Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen
Wish I could get into beta so I could make a decision on this game.
"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"
Yep, you got me.
I find the play-style bland (typical MMO but not captivating at all from the outset) but most shockingly the quality of the graphics is terrible, it looks like something from 2005 even with every setting cranked to max on my reasonably decent PC.
I'd put the graphics quality on about par with RoM, close up some of the player models look OK (just OK) but overall it cannot hold a candle to the likes of games like Aion or even games like CODMW:2 for example. I even prefer the art style of WoW with the recent texture resolution update. AAA+ game this is not.
No doubt the game will appeal to some, certainly the beta is filled with people who are loving it but my advice is to try before you buy with this one. Definitely a thumbs down to the OP from my experience.
Also, I'd like to add my support to the lack of communication from Trion with its player base. Experienced this first hand sadly.
hahaha get real alrdy...I have seen a lot of people say the same thing about Aion, AoC, WAR, STO, etc...
I WILL BELIEVE IT WHEN I SEE IT !
QUESTION:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xridnasa:
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What's a "grocery store"? Is that like McDonald's?
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ANSWER:
Quote:
Originally Posted by sidimazz:
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Kind of, just without the rapist.
Even in beta it's not easy to decide... After beta 1 and 2 I thought OMG, I already played that f****** questchain-game ten thousand times. And in beta 3 the rifts and invasions hooked me. The opinions about Rift are varying from "seen that, done that" to "this is true next gen". And both opinions are somewhat right...
Currently playing: EverQuest
Waiting for Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen