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Bioware - The only reason I still have interest in SW TOR
FearGX
Member Posts: 317
I don't know why, but the only thing thats kept my interest in this game is that it's made by Bioware. I loved the original Neverwinter Nights, the Mass effect games and Dragon Age Origins is just superb, not to mention the masterpiece KOTOR. But is keeping interest in this game, especially been a MMO solely because it's developed by Bioware a bad thing? Bioware is one of my favourite developers behind Blizzard and it's really the only reason I still have interest in this title. People are giving the game negative opinion and feedback because of graphics and looks too colorful or cartoony, but really, this is Bioware were talking about, who have made nothing but masterpieces in the past.
When World of Warcraft released, the sole reason many thousands bought the game was because of Blizzard itself and the reputation it had at the time. In WoW's early stages it was far from perfect, but many stuck it out and more flocked in simply because the developer was blizzard. My only question is will SW TOR draw in many players who play Bioware's games on say the console and PC who are still not familiar with MMO's. The generic WoW mmo crowd may hate this game and call it a failure etc etc but I really see this game doing quite well simply because Bioware is involved.
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Some people are interested in the game because of Bioware, others because it's Star Wars, others because they want a new mainstream MMO in a new setting, etc. For me blizzard lags behing Bioware, for me they are without a doubt the best developer in the market. They make memorable games... there's scenes in their games that i will never forget. Of course this is all personal taste, but bioware and blizzard are on the same level when comes to making games.
Of my close friends there was only me who PC games the guys constantly ridicule me on playing MMO's and only ever picture players of them as geeks who don't eat for days at a time playing some dungeon or others whilst yelling commands through a headset - Yes the Southpark ep make love not warcraft or the AOC episode of BBT are the only influences they have had in the MMO genre.
These guys all loved Kotor, DA and especially Mass Effect 1 and 2
When this bunch of console loving retrobates found out that Bioware was making a MMO and it would be PC only the emails started coming "Um mate if I wanted to um play that Bioware Star Wars MMO what would I need ?" After my "Muhahahah, your coming to the dark side then" response was done with we set about snapping up parts to make some decent gaming rigs.
Within my circle of friends we now have 12 people ready to go for TOR hell I've even dragged a number of them away from there console MW2/Black Ops to BF:BC2 on the PC to fill our time.
Moral of story BIOWARE alone turned 12 die hard console gamers to raging PC TOR fanbois and PC gaming in general and I'm no doubt we will be at 20 or so people by the time it launches.
I'm interested to know why you feel the need to use RED to get your point across, personally I feel you are just attention seeking, but hey that's just my opinion but it's hurting my eyes.
Asbo
Looked at your last 10 posts or so, and it looks like ths RED thing is something new you have been doing for your past 5 posts. If your looking for a trademark, you picked a bad one.
I'd like to read your post and make an informative comment, but damn dude that shit hurts my eyes.
Changed it, It looked ok on my desktop, but now on my laptop it does hurt my eyes, my apoligies.
The way i'm looking at SW;TOR isn't solely as an MMO or anything that can be compared to other MMOs. I'm thinking the exact same way it was described when the press release was sent out and the idea of the game was mentioned...
Knights of the Old Republic 3,4,5,6 etc etc etc
Online multiplayer is a bonus. in my eyes it's basically the continuation of a superb game that i enjoy playing.
TY!
I whole heartily agree with your first paragraph, I'm looking forward to this game because it's Bioware and Sci-fi (my favorite genre). I don't have expectations that a lot of mmoers have, I haven't played an mmo for awhile now, nothing currently interests me or I got burnt out on the 1 game that did which was WoW in '07 or SOE botched the one I truely loved which was SWG. So maybe that's why my expectations are different.
My expectations for the game is for it to be a Bioware game, and we all know what that means. I intend to get a great single player story, for more than 1 class which should be able to hold me over for 3 to 6 months. If within that timeframe I also find a an actual mmo where I feel that it's deserving of me to invest mmo time into it, I will do so, but that will just be icing on the cake.
I feel I'm getting multiple KOTOR's. I get KOTOR 3 for $50 bucks and KOTOR 4 for $15, KOTOR 5 for $15..... And so on, that's if it takes a month to do a class for example. So I'm very hyped about what my expectations for the game are, as far as the mmo aspects go, I'm in a wait and see mind frame, either way I believe I will feel I spent my money well and will enjoy the game.
Maybe all this shit makes me a fanboi, meh who f'n cares. Like I really care what JoeBob4093 thinks of me.
HA, you wrote that out while I was writing mine. You basically said the same thing as me, in a more condensed form of course
What is Netherwinter Nights?
It's a crpg that had great epic story, but not only that they packed an editor with it so you could create your own worlds to adventure in.
Lots of people still play it today, it's about a good 7-8years old.
I know
. I used to do a bunch of work in the Aurora toolset including scripting, and world making for a role play server. NWN is one of my favorite games of all time. I was just making fun of the OP for saying "Netherwinter" and not Neverwinter.
It's Neverwinter Nights; What is interesting is that it allows players to create their own online worlds, with 32-64 players.
Some of the mods are very very well done and strangely you tend to find small communities which are real fun.
Covers D&D 3rd Edition / Theres Neverwinter Nights 2 that covers 4th edition as well
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
Sorry fixed this, it has been along time since I played it :P
I know a lot of fellow co workers and friends who never played any Bioware game before and are still interested in SWTOR. Bioware can never overshadow the Star Wars name and that name will be its selling point. An avergae MMO player does not care about in depth details of development and who is behind the game. Once they see name Star Wars on the box they will pick it up regardless of who is making it.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
I think thats what they are banking on, making a good star wars game that MMo people will enjoy
That way they get the people that play star wars games (which may continue playing if they enjoy the game)
Then they get the Bioware fans with the story, because most will agree that their stories are good.
Then you get the MMO people who are looking for something fun to play.
If they can pull all three of these crowds in, they can have very big numbers.
Myself i'm in it for the story and the choices in it.
Help me Bioware, you're my only hope.
Is ToR going to be good? Dude it's Bioware making a freaking star wars game, all signs point to awesome. -G4tv MMo report.
I'm waiting hard for TOR for 2 reasons. 1) I'm a big SW fan 2) I've seen what Bioware can do especially with the Star Wars IP. Yes, it won't be the groundbreaking MMO which will redefine the genre with innovations and never seen before mechanisms. Personally, i don't mind because i know that Bioware will deliver a "true" SW experience, very polished and with very hight production values like all their games so far.
I have to admit, the fact that it was Bioware initially was a huge factor with how I became interested in this game. Though I didn't like all of their games, they were very polished, epic, and the ones I did enjoy were truly amazing. Until proven otherwise, they earned my respect and belief in what they are doing despite the fact that this is their first MMO. They have a ton of talent in house that have worked on other MMOs and have probably learned from past mistakes.
What kept me to the game was the desire to want to pay attention to the quests again in a sci fi setting. To take the small feeling I had in Lord of the Rings Online of feeling a part of something bigger (I loved the Lord of the Rings Universe since those were my favorite books and movies) and make that feel even more relevant in a modern sci fi MMO. Nowadays, I do the same thing as everyone else. I open the quest, hit accept, and grind. That is what I am doing in Cataclysm. I try to read the quest but it is just so boring and the story is for a 5 year old. I think this game will bring the enjoyment of questing back to me again after being worn out over the current MMOs which are all variations of the same open quest, hit accept, don't read the text, grind.
Now I was a little concerned with what I saw over the summer, but most of my reservations were put to rest with the latest impressions of the 6 hour demo and the leaked videos I have seen all over the internet. I truly believe that this game will be successful with subs in the millions if marketed correctly.
There Is Always Hope!
I will let you into a secret Bioware , will recover a lot of their costs on the back of single player games they have developed. Most of that base associate with Bioware in conjunction with the SW IP.
In this case you have one of the industrys leading game developers , others you could maybe disreguard but Bioware are different and it is they who are bringing everything to this game pretty much. LA are just ensuring they don't stray too far.
In my opinion I think you are miles off. Just like the OP who is allowed his opinion but I believe the collaboration does add value to the game but the major player here is Bioware they are the people who will make this succeed. With their player base hooked with respect to all the storyline/class startup and adding Questing / World Story Arc and all the standard MMO fare this will be a winner.
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Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
Assuming that all the million or more players that are going to buy the game even know about bioware or played their games before. The name Star Wars will always have more draw than Bioware. Yes it is a plus but not the main reason why SWTOR will sell.
Who could have thought that WOW could bring super power like USA to its knees?
Originally posted by Arcken
To put it in a nutshell, our society is about to hit the fan, grades are dropping, obesity is going up,childhood the USA is going to lose its super power status before too long, but hey, as long as we have a cheap method to babysit our kids, all will be well no?
Im picking on WoW btw because its the beast that made all of this possible
I don't know if that is necessarily true. While I do agree that the Star Wars name will bring in many people, Bioware has an insane amount of gaming followers that could potentially help pull off what Blizzard did with the shift from the Warcraft RTS's to the MMORPG itself. I doubt it will go as far as WoW has, but because of the Bioware name, this title could end up being something monumental in the history books.
I'm no prophet, but I've witnessed a similar formula from the past that lead to the current success of the king of the genre.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Care to explain why people are so hard on with Bioware? Only really good product(s) they ever made was Baldurs Gate -series. NWN was like meh and all the rest could be described as 'good story, mediocre gameplay'.
And no, I'm not trolling.
We are hard on for a simple reason, because we don't have the same opinions as you.
I don't even like BW games, to be frank. But, if this game appeals to their fans, it's incredible potential could actually be recognized.
And yes, I am well aware of the genre's current history record with respect to potential, so don't make any bets. I certainly won't.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
comes down to personal preference i guess.
TOR, ME, DA, Jade Empire I could possibly see where you are coming from but I still love them but ME2 nailed it with the move to a proper FPS targetting system the gameplay more than matched the story and both where exceptional.
Personal Preference can go a long way Blizzard for eg I didnt even know there name before WoW as i have zero intrest in the RTS genre I don't play WoW either (cartoony art style urrgghh) so I cant understand why people have a hard on for Blizzard, same could be said for Bethesda hated oblivion and FE's cant understand peoples obsession with them.
I remeber just a few months ago people telling me how great FFXIV was going to be because of all SE's success running the previous FF mmo.