Looks like Blizzard NA/EU numbers are declining. Last I checked Blizzard had over 6.5 million subs in that area. I can't imagine anyone playing wow and not buying an expansion. 2+ million player drop is massive. Thank god the Asian market is bigger than ever to keep the numbers steady.
Looks like Blizzard NA/EU numbers are declining. Last I checked Blizzard had over 6.5 million subs in that area. I can't imagine anyone playing wow and not buying an expansion. 2+ million player drop is massive. Thank god the Asian market is bigger than ever to keep the numbers steady.
2007/ first month sales of TBC: 3.400.000 copies.
2008/ first month sales of Wotlk: 4.000.000 copies.
2010/ first month sales of CATA: 4.700.000 copies. ... + 15 %
Only Wow haters can see a decline I guess.
Now call in the fact that only hardcore/long term WOW players needed the expansion and these figures (like Wotlk) will double during 2011.
ok many of us purchised Cata, but how many will maintain sub after they tryed Cata & found it boring?
Those who purchased Cata already invested lots and lots of money to reach that end game. It takes more than a wrong tuned Tol Barad or a diffficult dungeon to leave the running train.
Blizzard remade the 1-60 content to lure in millions of new players by selling them the basic box for 5 dollars.
Those 5 million (non Chinese mainland) buying Cata ... in the end game already are solid fixed into the game for many years.
Much luck to those wanting bored Wow people over in their copy games. We saw the results how that turned out these last 5 years.
No matter how you look at it, it just proves that Blizzard is looking after its players, WoW clones will always suffer from being compared to WoW, and lacking the games 'polish' not to mention player numbers, will always make them seem drab by comparison, i think though, that 2011 will be an interesting year, for one thing, we will get to see how much 'hype' about these games that are chasing WoW's playerbase, is real, and how much is BS.. the time is coming where they have to produce the goods, and not make unsubstantiated claims, personally i will be waiting to see how that goes with a certain degree of amusement.. if nothing else, it will force these MMO developers to up their game(s) and stop trying to foist second rate products on us..
Then explain it to me. Explain why when you say you have near 7 million subs in an area and only 4.7 million buy it shouldnt we assume wow has less players in that particular area? I never said wows numbers declined world wide as I made it clear Asian numbers are up. I mean do you know anyone that hasn't bought the expansion? I sure as hell don't. The hook of having the two new races is just too strong to not buy it even if you are still low level.
ok many of us purchised Cata, but how many will maintain sub after they tryed Cata & found it boring?
Those who purchased Cata already invested lots and lots of money to reach that end game. It takes more than a wrong tuned Tol Barad or a diffficult dungeon to leave the running train.
Blizzard remade the 1-60 content to lure in millions of new players by selling them the basic box for 5 dollars.
Those 5 million (non Chinese mainland) buying Cata ... in the end game already are solid fixed into the game for many years.
Much luck to those wanting bored Wow people over in their copy games. We saw the results how that turned out these last 5 years.
No matter how you look at it, it just proves that Blizzard is looking after its players, WoW clones will always suffer from being compared to WoW, and lacking the games 'polish' not to mention player numbers, will always make them seem drab by comparison, i think though, that 2011 will be an interesting year, for one thing, we will get to see how much 'hype' about these games that are chasing WoW's playerbase, is real, and how much is BS.. the time is coming where they have to produce the goods, and not make unsubstantiated claims, personally i will be waiting to see how that goes with a certain degree of amusement.. if nothing else, it will force these MMO developers to up their game(s) and stop trying to foist second rate products on us..
Did you also see that SW:TOR is releasing very few updates these last 2 months.
Bioware/EA y said once 2nd Q 2011/ : forget it and there is good chance GW2 will not be published in 2011 too.
There is some really catching up to do by those 2 if they want to scratch the surface even.
Looks like Blizzard NA/EU numbers are declining. Last I checked Blizzard had over 6.5 million subs in that area. I can't imagine anyone playing wow and not buying an expansion. 2+ million player drop is massive. Thank god the Asian market is bigger than ever to keep the numbers steady.
Declining? lulz, maybe that's what you want to believe?
Looks like Blizzard NA/EU numbers are declining. Last I checked Blizzard had over 6.5 million subs in that area. I can't imagine anyone playing wow and not buying an expansion. 2+ million player drop is massive. Thank god the Asian market is bigger than ever to keep the numbers steady.
2007/ first month sales of TBC: 3.400.000 copies.
2008/ first month sales of Wotlk: 4.000.000 copies.
2010/ first month sales of CATA: 4.700.000 copies. ... + 15 %
Only Wow haters can see a decline I guess.
Now call in the fact that only hardcore/long term WOW players needed the expansion and these figures (like Wotlk) will double during 2011.
Sure: let frustration run.
False claims, i can throw in my opinion likewise: each xpac most return for the promise that it would be new and better and leave right at maxlevel as its the same old stuff. The servers are overloaded at xpac release and not even half as full one month later.
Looks like Blizzard NA/EU numbers are declining. Last I checked Blizzard had over 6.5 million subs in that area. I can't imagine anyone playing wow and not buying an expansion. 2+ million player drop is massive. Thank god the Asian market is bigger than ever to keep the numbers steady.
Declining? lulz, maybe that's what you want to believe?
Oh stop... Wow could have 50 million subs and it wouldn't affect what I do during my daily mmo play sessions. I'm only pointing out the obvious. You have 7 million subs and over two million haven't bought your expansion it brings up question as to why. Especially considering Cata has such a strong hook for new and casual players.
Then explain it to me. Explain why when you say you have near 7 million subs in an area and only 4.7 million buy it should we assume wow has less players in that particular area? I never said wows numbers declined world wide as I made it clear Asian numbers are up. I mean do you know anyone that hasn't bought the expansion? I sure as hell don't. The hook of having the two new races is just too strong to not buy it even if you are still low level.
Cataclysm isn't needed unless you want to play the hardcore end game. So you think that Cata will just stop selling after Jan 7th ? No it won't.... Besides at this rate (see top selling charts this very week), Cata is already over 5 M as we speak.
It just shows that 4.7 million wanted Cata asap because they play that hardcore end game.
The same reason when Wotlk sold 4 million in is first month and TBC 3.2 million in its first month.
These are just first month figures and Wotlk is STILL in the top 10 of PC games sold after ... 2 years.
It all proves actually the figures of 6 to 7 million non Chinese players is rather accurate.
And proven by the yearly income of Blizzard: see upcoming Feb 5th 2011.
I am sure of their audited figures (as is the stock market), you're not perhaps ? LOL
For a grown up man you do think that Cata will not sell 1 copy after Jan 7th LOL . God hate MAKES blind.
Mind linking me the 5+ million sales figures? The official announcement tallying all Asian subs? And a list of the Cata features that arent available if you don't buy the expansion? I could of sworn you didn't have access to the new races, new profession, Azeroth flying and others if you didn't own Cata.
ok many of us purchised Cata, but how many will maintain sub after they tryed Cata & found it boring?
Those who purchased Cata already invested lots and lots of money to reach that end game. It takes more than a wrong tuned Tol Barad or a diffficult dungeon to leave the running train.
Blizzard remade the 1-60 content to lure in millions of new players by selling them the basic box for 5 dollars.
Those 5 million (non Chinese mainland) buying Cata ... in the end game already are solid fixed into the game for many years.
Much luck to those wanting bored Wow people over in their copy games. We saw the results how that turned out these last 5 years.
No matter how you look at it, it just proves that Blizzard is looking after its players, WoW clones will always suffer from being compared to WoW, and lacking the games 'polish' not to mention player numbers, will always make them seem drab by comparison, i think though, that 2011 will be an interesting year, for one thing, we will get to see how much 'hype' about these games that are chasing WoW's playerbase, is real, and how much is BS.. the time is coming where they have to produce the goods, and not make unsubstantiated claims, personally i will be waiting to see how that goes with a certain degree of amusement.. if nothing else, it will force these MMO developers to up their game(s) and stop trying to foist second rate products on us..
Did you also see that SW:TOR is releasing very few updates these last 2 months.
Bioware/EA y said once 2nd Q 2011/ : forget it and there is good chance GW2 will not be published in 2011 too.
There is some really catching up to do by those 2 if they want to scratch the surface even.
I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, but if those games do slip, then... well it wouldnt surprise me very much.. if anything i think FFXIV could have done with doing the same thing, bad launches are.. near impossible to recover from.. and thats something i have noticed in the last 5 years (if not longer...) guess we'll see what happens in next few months..
Originally posted by Rockgod99 Mind linking me the 5+ million sales figures? The official announcement tallying all Asian subs? And a list of the Cata features that arent available if you don't buy the expansion? I could of sworn you didn't have access to the new races, new profession, Azeroth flying and others if you didn't own Cata.
People have their reasons. Perhaps you have people mid way through leveling who dont want to play as the new races and are not at level 80 yet. Who knows. Ive seen people playing during WotLK that never upgraded to any expansion. I never asked them why because their reasons are their own.
So, who the hell are you to say these people dont exist because they dont fit in to your preconceived notions?
Mind linking me the 5+ million sales figures? The official announcement tallying all Asian subs? And a list of the Cata features that arent available if you don't buy the expansion? I could of sworn you didn't have access to the new races, new profession, Azeroth flying and others if you didn't own Cata.
People have their reasons. Perhaps you have people mid way through leveling who dont want to play as the new races and are not at level 80 yet. Who knows. Ive seen people playing during WotLK that never upgraded to any expansion. I never asked them why because their reasons are their own.
So, who the hell are you to say these people dont exist because they dont fit in to your preconceived notions?
The big thing that most haters never realize is just how casual some people play WOW, it is one of the things that seperates WOW from the ´100,000 subscriber´mmorpgs. The majority of WOW players aren´t junkies that read fansites or even care about maximizing their character. They play randomly for fun. I see it all the time while leveling up new toons. Players just ´clueless´ by normal MMORPG standards. They are just playing and paying every month and having a lot of fun. They dont´stand in lines on cold december nights to buy an expansion at midnight.
Or better yet, put it this way. Catacylsm sold more in one month that Warhammer, AOC and AION have sold combined since they were released.
Just cause you don't know anyone that hasn't got cata yet doesn't mean those people aren't out there. I am a brand new player to the game and i have the full game but the guild I'm in alone (47members) has 3 people without full game one of which still only has base game only.
One number I would like to see to offset the 'WoW is only positive' numbers is how many have ended their subs once they hit the 85 level cap.
It's all great for the the fans to shout about 4.7 million copies sold (undoubtedly impressive to be sure) but they never get the other side of the coin (pun intended).
Just cause you don't know anyone that hasn't got cata yet doesn't mean those people aren't out there. I am a brand new player to the game and i have the full game but the guild I'm in alone (47members) has 3 people without full game one of which still only has base game only.
For a noob to MMORPG's , the new basic WOW-Azeroth at 5 Euro is a blast.
I thought Blizzard made a mistake by asking new players to buy all these boxes without a new battle chest, but by the plain fact you don't even need Cataclysm till ... level 80, they ensured not only the long term selling of Cata, but TBC and Wotlk as well.
Smart business as always.
I think though they reached the limit of selling the seperate boxes. Perhaps next expansion they'll add the battle chest box.
Just cause you don't know anyone that hasn't got cata yet doesn't mean those people aren't out there. I am a brand new player to the game and i have the full game but the guild I'm in alone (47members) has 3 people without full game one of which still only has base game only.
Hehehe .. and i am in a progression guild and EVERYONE has CATA.
One number I would like to see to offset the 'WoW is only positive' numbers is how many have ended their subs once they hit the 85 level cap.
It's all great for the the fans to shout about 4.7 million copies sold (undoubtedly impressive to be sure) but they never get the other side of the coin (pun intended).
I think the fact that the sub has only been increasing so far (12M) should tell you something. They can replace subs faster than they lose them .. or they are not losing much.
Of course we haven't seen sub numbers after CATA but when we do, we will know more.
I will keep things as respectful as I can because I have an odd feeling this thread will be deleted fast unless we keep things on the up and up.
I think some of us are past the point of the Skinner box. Blizzard does not make their money off of the truly addicted souls who log in and play for 6 hours a night. No, I think they make the bulk of their money of people like us who for some reason keep our subscriptions going and log in and only play for an hour or less a night because after several years this has become a "habit".
I feel that even though it is a small sample size, the WoW community is close to fracturing. Threads like this are all too common now:
Ask yourself, isn't class balance in pvp worse than ever before?
Ask yourself, aren't you tired of logging into to Stormwind to see nothing but people sitting around, showing off their dragon mounts, blocking everything?
Ask yourself, how out of order Outland has become. What is Blizzard going to do about this? The only thing I can think of is to have those people standing in from of the Dark Portal tell you that you will be going "back in time".
Ask yourself, why does Blizzard continue to not listen to us regarding character customization, old race model updates, and gear appearance tabs? At least let us dye our armor..
Ask yourself, is it me or is this questing on rails become an epidemic? Forget any exploration and finding that rare quest giver. Nowadays usually someone has to "tell you" to go there first in order for you to receive quests from that person.
Ask yourself, was the old world music THAT BAD that it needed updating? There are several Night Elf area pieces of music that are gorgeous that are gone from the game.
Ask yourself why the most sought out achievement is to get killed by the main antagonist of this expansion. This was a classic overreaction by Blizzard,. They said that The Lich King was too prominent in WotLK so they wanted to make make Deathwing more "rare". Well grats, tons still have not seen him yet! Anyways this is still quite silly. Trying to get killed is completely lame. You should be angry and upset that he killed you. Not purposely running towards the fire.
Ask yourself has WoW become "Phasing Gone Wild"? I mean, yeah it's cool but this is a bit too much. I understand it helps immersion but in a bit of irony it actually kills it as well as sometimes you see a crowd of players facing a wall (they are actually talking to someone that you can't see yet). If you are in a group with someone and they are a quest or two ahead or behind there is some serious potential for wackiness.
Ask yourself, what do the starting areas of the Goblin and Worgen have in common. One major theme that took almost no thought process to accomplish.
Here is a quest hub/small town
it gets destroyed, move on
Here is a quest hub/small town
it gets destroyed, move on
Here is a quest hub/small town
it gets destroyed, move on
After I did the Worgen area and started to see this happen with the Goblin area I was quite shocked. No one else was talking about this. Phasing has become a Christmas toy and Blizzard is proudly wielding it around, slapping us in the face, hoping we will mistake overused ingenuity with quest depth and good story-writing.
Ask yourself, why is the community even worse than it ever has been? I can't go 10 minutes without running into a complete jerk.
I am not going to come here and declare WoW "dead". It is not. There will still be many of us to support it. I will say that my current subscription is on cancel. I assume I will have a handful of trolls that will respond to this thread, further proving my point. Or the best is someone responding to this thread calling ME a troll. I always like that one too..
In summary I want to say that something has gone wrong with World of Warcraft. Blizzard has misfired somewhere.
There is an old business saying "do 1,000 things 1% better". Right now I think Blizzard has done almost 1,000 things 1% worse...They have become a victim to the classic paralysis by analysis. They changed some things that need to be changed, but they overdid it.
I will some things up like this..
There is a quest in Redridge Mountains where you have to sneak past a ton of level 18 elite wolves to get a cage key. You are told that they will wake up if you have any pets with you. That is fine. But do we really then need a reminder in giant letters on the screen saying "okay here is a good place to leave your pet"? And then afterwords "Don't forget to get your pet back"..
One number I would like to see to offset the 'WoW is only positive' numbers is how many have ended their subs once they hit the 85 level cap.
It's all great for the the fans to shout about 4.7 million copies sold (undoubtedly impressive to be sure) but they never get the other side of the coin (pun intended).
I think the fact that the sub has only been increasing so far (12M) should tell you something. They can replace subs faster than they lose them .. or they are not losing much.
Of course we haven't seen sub numbers after CATA but when we do, we will know more.
Besides the fact "so what" if people cancel their subs at 85? If people enjoyed the game up to 85 but want nothing to do with the raiding horror that people have subjected themselves to, then it's money well spent. The issue would be if they hated the leveling to 85 and then found themselves in a place where they didn't want to be.
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Purchased the game for all of my accounts (6). Got one character to 85 and others to close to 85 and... quit. I lost interest.
I was very, very excited about the expansion. But, in the end, I just have zero drive to play now.
As of now, I can't see anything in the future that would make me want to come back to Azeroth... time to get my ass of the WoW treadmill and back on the RL treadmill. Body by Blizzard is not a good thing.
Cataclysm is selling faster than the previous best seller. The previous best seller was the Lich King expansion. The Lich King expansion was when Blizzard pushed subscriptions for WoW up to the 12 million active subscriptions mark. It didn't happen one month after the expansion released, it was several months afterwards. They didn't sell 11.5 million copies of the game the first day, so why do people think if it doesn't happen with this expansion, it means the subscriptions are declining? It seems reasonable to assume that WoW's subscriptions will meet or exceed the previous records.
Time, of course, will tell exactly what's going to happen. The only thing this says for sure is that WoW is selling faster than it ever has before. I'm not sure why people keep trying to spin that into a bad thing for Blizzard.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
My oh My, childish reactions to a first world record of PC games sold in one month.
I am sure next Feb 9th will be a pain in the ass for some over here..
It is your life of course. But if you get all sick because Morhaime will count his next billion, it is time to go outside and take a deep and very deep breath.
Wow is a game you know and I like to play it. If that bothers you, you need more than fresh air.
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Waiting on: GW2, BP
2007/ first month sales of TBC: 3.400.000 copies.
2008/ first month sales of Wotlk: 4.000.000 copies.
2010/ first month sales of CATA: 4.700.000 copies. ... + 15 %
Only Wow haters can see a decline I guess.
Now call in the fact that only hardcore/long term WOW players needed the expansion and these figures (like Wotlk) will double during 2011.
Sure: let frustration run.
No matter how you look at it, it just proves that Blizzard is looking after its players, WoW clones will always suffer from being compared to WoW, and lacking the games 'polish' not to mention player numbers, will always make them seem drab by comparison, i think though, that 2011 will be an interesting year, for one thing, we will get to see how much 'hype' about these games that are chasing WoW's playerbase, is real, and how much is BS.. the time is coming where they have to produce the goods, and not make unsubstantiated claims, personally i will be waiting to see how that goes with a certain degree of amusement.. if nothing else, it will force these MMO developers to up their game(s) and stop trying to foist second rate products on us..
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Did you also see that SW:TOR is releasing very few updates these last 2 months.
Bioware/EA y said once 2nd Q 2011/ : forget it and there is good chance GW2 will not be published in 2011 too.
There is some really catching up to do by those 2 if they want to scratch the surface even.
Declining? lulz, maybe that's what you want to believe?
False claims, i can throw in my opinion likewise: each xpac most return for the promise that it would be new and better and leave right at maxlevel as its the same old stuff. The servers are overloaded at xpac release and not even half as full one month later.
Pi*1337/100 = 42
Declining? lulz, maybe that's what you want to believe?
Oh stop... Wow could have 50 million subs and it wouldn't affect what I do during my daily mmo play sessions. I'm only pointing out the obvious. You have 7 million subs and over two million haven't bought your expansion it brings up question as to why. Especially considering Cata has such a strong hook for new and casual players.Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
Cataclysm isn't needed unless you want to play the hardcore end game. So you think that Cata will just stop selling after Jan 7th ? No it won't.... Besides at this rate (see top selling charts this very week), Cata is already over 5 M as we speak.
It just shows that 4.7 million wanted Cata asap because they play that hardcore end game.
The same reason when Wotlk sold 4 million in is first month and TBC 3.2 million in its first month.
These are just first month figures and Wotlk is STILL in the top 10 of PC games sold after ... 2 years.
It all proves actually the figures of 6 to 7 million non Chinese players is rather accurate.
And proven by the yearly income of Blizzard: see upcoming Feb 5th 2011.
I am sure of their audited figures (as is the stock market), you're not perhaps ? LOL
For a grown up man you do think that Cata will not sell 1 copy after Jan 7th LOL . God hate MAKES blind.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, but if those games do slip, then... well it wouldnt surprise me very much.. if anything i think FFXIV could have done with doing the same thing, bad launches are.. near impossible to recover from.. and thats something i have noticed in the last 5 years (if not longer...) guess we'll see what happens in next few months..
So sorry but no that impressive.
It's supposed to sell that much if it's available in so many markets.
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So, who the hell are you to say these people dont exist because they dont fit in to your preconceived notions?
The big thing that most haters never realize is just how casual some people play WOW, it is one of the things that seperates WOW from the ´100,000 subscriber´mmorpgs. The majority of WOW players aren´t junkies that read fansites or even care about maximizing their character. They play randomly for fun. I see it all the time while leveling up new toons. Players just ´clueless´ by normal MMORPG standards. They are just playing and paying every month and having a lot of fun. They dont´stand in lines on cold december nights to buy an expansion at midnight.
Or better yet, put it this way. Catacylsm sold more in one month that Warhammer, AOC and AION have sold combined since they were released.
The statement that Cataclysm sold more in one DAY than Warhammer, AOC and Aion have sold combined since they were released is probably also true.
Just cause you don't know anyone that hasn't got cata yet doesn't mean those people aren't out there. I am a brand new player to the game and i have the full game but the guild I'm in alone (47members) has 3 people without full game one of which still only has base game only.
I neither hate nor love WoW.
One number I would like to see to offset the 'WoW is only positive' numbers is how many have ended their subs once they hit the 85 level cap.
It's all great for the the fans to shout about 4.7 million copies sold (undoubtedly impressive to be sure) but they never get the other side of the coin (pun intended).
For a noob to MMORPG's , the new basic WOW-Azeroth at 5 Euro is a blast.
I thought Blizzard made a mistake by asking new players to buy all these boxes without a new battle chest, but by the plain fact you don't even need Cataclysm till ... level 80, they ensured not only the long term selling of Cata, but TBC and Wotlk as well.
Smart business as always.
I think though they reached the limit of selling the seperate boxes. Perhaps next expansion they'll add the battle chest box.
Hehehe .. and i am in a progression guild and EVERYONE has CATA.
I think the fact that the sub has only been increasing so far (12M) should tell you something. They can replace subs faster than they lose them .. or they are not losing much.
Of course we haven't seen sub numbers after CATA but when we do, we will know more.
I posted this on the WoW forums and got the thread deleted with a 72 hour ban:
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I will keep things as respectful as I can because I have an odd feeling this thread will be deleted fast unless we keep things on the up and up.
I think some of us are past the point of the Skinner box. Blizzard does not make their money off of the truly addicted souls who log in and play for 6 hours a night. No, I think they make the bulk of their money of people like us who for some reason keep our subscriptions going and log in and only play for an hour or less a night because after several years this has become a "habit".
I feel that even though it is a small sample size, the WoW community is close to fracturing. Threads like this are all too common now:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1869254863
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1921694406
Ask yourself, isn't class balance in pvp worse than ever before?
Ask yourself, aren't you tired of logging into to Stormwind to see nothing but people sitting around, showing off their dragon mounts, blocking everything?
Ask yourself, how out of order Outland has become. What is Blizzard going to do about this? The only thing I can think of is to have those people standing in from of the Dark Portal tell you that you will be going "back in time".
Ask yourself, why does Blizzard continue to not listen to us regarding character customization, old race model updates, and gear appearance tabs? At least let us dye our armor..
Ask yourself, is it me or is this questing on rails become an epidemic? Forget any exploration and finding that rare quest giver. Nowadays usually someone has to "tell you" to go there first in order for you to receive quests from that person.
Ask yourself, was the old world music THAT BAD that it needed updating? There are several Night Elf area pieces of music that are gorgeous that are gone from the game.
Ask yourself why the most sought out achievement is to get killed by the main antagonist of this expansion. This was a classic overreaction by Blizzard,. They said that The Lich King was too prominent in WotLK so they wanted to make make Deathwing more "rare". Well grats, tons still have not seen him yet! Anyways this is still quite silly. Trying to get killed is completely lame. You should be angry and upset that he killed you. Not purposely running towards the fire.
Ask yourself has WoW become "Phasing Gone Wild"? I mean, yeah it's cool but this is a bit too much. I understand it helps immersion but in a bit of irony it actually kills it as well as sometimes you see a crowd of players facing a wall (they are actually talking to someone that you can't see yet). If you are in a group with someone and they are a quest or two ahead or behind there is some serious potential for wackiness.
Ask yourself, what do the starting areas of the Goblin and Worgen have in common. One major theme that took almost no thought process to accomplish.
Here is a quest hub/small town
it gets destroyed, move on
Here is a quest hub/small town
it gets destroyed, move on
Here is a quest hub/small town
it gets destroyed, move on
After I did the Worgen area and started to see this happen with the Goblin area I was quite shocked. No one else was talking about this. Phasing has become a Christmas toy and Blizzard is proudly wielding it around, slapping us in the face, hoping we will mistake overused ingenuity with quest depth and good story-writing.
Ask yourself, why is the community even worse than it ever has been? I can't go 10 minutes without running into a complete jerk.
I am not going to come here and declare WoW "dead". It is not. There will still be many of us to support it. I will say that my current subscription is on cancel. I assume I will have a handful of trolls that will respond to this thread, further proving my point. Or the best is someone responding to this thread calling ME a troll. I always like that one too..
In summary I want to say that something has gone wrong with World of Warcraft. Blizzard has misfired somewhere.
There is an old business saying "do 1,000 things 1% better". Right now I think Blizzard has done almost 1,000 things 1% worse...They have become a victim to the classic paralysis by analysis. They changed some things that need to be changed, but they overdid it.
I will some things up like this..
There is a quest in Redridge Mountains where you have to sneak past a ton of level 18 elite wolves to get a cage key. You are told that they will wake up if you have any pets with you. That is fine. But do we really then need a reminder in giant letters on the screen saying "okay here is a good place to leave your pet"? And then afterwords "Don't forget to get your pet back"..
Does Blizzard really think we are this stupid?
Besides the fact "so what" if people cancel their subs at 85? If people enjoyed the game up to 85 but want nothing to do with the raiding horror that people have subjected themselves to, then it's money well spent. The issue would be if they hated the leveling to 85 and then found themselves in a place where they didn't want to be.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Purchased the game for all of my accounts (6). Got one character to 85 and others to close to 85 and... quit. I lost interest.
I was very, very excited about the expansion. But, in the end, I just have zero drive to play now.
As of now, I can't see anything in the future that would make me want to come back to Azeroth... time to get my ass of the WoW treadmill and back on the RL treadmill. Body by Blizzard is not a good thing.
Cataclysm is selling faster than the previous best seller. The previous best seller was the Lich King expansion. The Lich King expansion was when Blizzard pushed subscriptions for WoW up to the 12 million active subscriptions mark. It didn't happen one month after the expansion released, it was several months afterwards. They didn't sell 11.5 million copies of the game the first day, so why do people think if it doesn't happen with this expansion, it means the subscriptions are declining? It seems reasonable to assume that WoW's subscriptions will meet or exceed the previous records.
Time, of course, will tell exactly what's going to happen. The only thing this says for sure is that WoW is selling faster than it ever has before. I'm not sure why people keep trying to spin that into a bad thing for Blizzard.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
My oh My, childish reactions to a first world record of PC games sold in one month.
I am sure next Feb 9th will be a pain in the ass for some over here..
It is your life of course. But if you get all sick because Morhaime will count his next billion, it is time to go outside and take a deep and very deep breath.
Wow is a game you know and I like to play it. If that bothers you, you need more than fresh air.