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Nvidia GT220

Elpresador69Elpresador69 Member Posts: 36

My pup recently went out and bought me a GT220 from a local pc shop (Because I done well in recent exams). He payed £120 for it and the store owner personally recommended it to him. My question is did he get a good deal? The performance so far seems pretty good. I'm an avid player of Runescape and the graphics seem to have sharpened up and fps raised.

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  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Member Posts: 2,414

    He got ripped. A GT220 is only worth $80 USD, he paid the equivilent of $127 USD. He could have gotten a GTX260 for a few dollars more. And if the only game you're concerned with is Runescape, a ten year old card for $5 off craigslist would have worked. lol

    -Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
    -And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  • Elpresador69Elpresador69 Member Posts: 36

    Originally posted by eyeswideopen

    He got ripped. And if the only game you're concerned with is Runescape, a ten year old card for $5 off craigslist would have worked. lol

    Hey really? I had an ATI Radeon 5750 before. But that didn't really cut it because games like LoTRO and WoW ran pretty poorly. Now i've only tested this on RS so far but it seems quite good. Are you sure  he got ripped because the store owner recommended it. I gave my dad the name of the ATI I already had and my dad asked for an improvement and the owner piped up with the GT220.

  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Member Posts: 2,414

    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    Originally posted by eyeswideopen

    He got ripped. And if the only game you're concerned with is Runescape, a ten year old card for $5 off craigslist would have worked. lol

    Hey really? I had an ATI Radeon 5750 before. But that didn't really cut it because games like LoTRO and WoW ran pretty poorly. Now i've only tested this on RS so far but it seems quite good. Are you sure  he got ripped because the store owner recommended it. I gave my dad the name of the ATI I already had and my dad asked for an improvement and the owner piped up with the GT220.

    The owner was just trying to dump old stock, I guarantee you. A GT220 isn't even a gaming card, it's made for HD video playing. An ATI 4670 is faster than a GT220. A GT220 is essentially an underclocked Nvidia 9600, like the GT250 is basically a renamed 9800.

    As for the games running poorly on the 5750, it could have been merely driver issues or the card could have been going out. Especially if it was having problems even with WoW.

    -Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
    -And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  • Elpresador69Elpresador69 Member Posts: 36

    So basically this pathetic store owner has sold my dad, an innocent consumer, a graphics card that is basically shit off the sole of my shoe? I can't believe this! Just when I thought I was starting to improve my Packard Bell gaming system.

  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969

    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    So basically this pathetic store owner has sold my dad, an innocent consumer, a graphics card that is basically shit off the sole of my shoe? I can't believe this! Just when I thought I was starting to improve my Packard Bell gaming system.

    Packard Bell?! WOW!

    I'm still trying to figure out how to upgrade the graphics on my Commodore 64...

  • MasterDeadlyMasterDeadly Member Posts: 78

    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    So basically this pathetic store owner has sold my dad, an innocent consumer, a graphics card that is basically shit off the sole of my shoe? I can't believe this! Just when I thought I was starting to improve my Packard Bell gaming system.

    It seems to me the salesman did a great job of pulling the wool over your dads eyes so too speak. I recommend you return the card if possible and seek better advice. We're here to help Elpresador69.

  • Elpresador69Elpresador69 Member Posts: 36

    Originally posted by bigsmiff

    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    So basically this pathetic store owner has sold my dad, an innocent consumer, a graphics card that is basically shit off the sole of my shoe? I can't believe this! Just when I thought I was starting to improve my Packard Bell gaming system.

    Packard Bell?! WOW!

    I'm still trying to figure out how to upgrade the graphics on my Commodore 64...

    What are you trying to imply here?

  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Member Posts: 2,414

    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    So basically this pathetic store owner has sold my dad, an innocent consumer, a graphics card that is basically shit off the sole of my shoe? I can't believe this! Just when I thought I was starting to improve my Packard Bell gaming system.

    And this is why most of us won't even go into a retail store. Most "computer salesmen" couldn't build one if their life depended on it, much less recommend the right part. And even the ones with a little bit of knowledge will still try to sell you overpriced crap before what you may really want which would be better and cheaper.

    -Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
    -And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969

    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    Originally posted by bigsmiff


    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    So basically this pathetic store owner has sold my dad, an innocent consumer, a graphics card that is basically shit off the sole of my shoe? I can't believe this! Just when I thought I was starting to improve my Packard Bell gaming system.

    Packard Bell?! WOW!

    I'm still trying to figure out how to upgrade the graphics on my Commodore 64...

    What are you trying to imply here?

    I was just in awe of your system...no harm meant...

  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969

    Seriously though...I just bought a HD 5770 and I am very pleased with it.

  • Elpresador69Elpresador69 Member Posts: 36

    Originally posted by bigsmiff

    Originally posted by Elpresador69


    Originally posted by bigsmiff


    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    So basically this pathetic store owner has sold my dad, an innocent consumer, a graphics card that is basically shit off the sole of my shoe? I can't believe this! Just when I thought I was starting to improve my Packard Bell gaming system.

    Packard Bell?! WOW!

    I'm still trying to figure out how to upgrade the graphics on my Commodore 64...

    What are you trying to imply here?

    I was just in awe of your system...no harm meant...

    Seriously I sense sarcasm. What is wrong with Packard Bell?

  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Member Posts: 2,414

    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    Originally posted by bigsmiff


    Originally posted by Elpresador69


    Originally posted by bigsmiff


    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    So basically this pathetic store owner has sold my dad, an innocent consumer, a graphics card that is basically shit off the sole of my shoe? I can't believe this! Just when I thought I was starting to improve my Packard Bell gaming system.

    Packard Bell?! WOW!

    I'm still trying to figure out how to upgrade the graphics on my Commodore 64...

    What are you trying to imply here?

    I was just in awe of your system...no harm meant...

    Seriously I sense sarcasm. What is wrong with Packard Bell?

    Honestly, I didn't even know they were stil in business.

    -Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
    -And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  • terroniterroni Member Posts: 935

    Is then even an AGP slot in a packard bell let alone pci-e?

    Edit: HOLY HELL!! They still make packard bells!

    Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.

  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969

    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    Originally posted by bigsmiff


    Originally posted by Elpresador69


    Originally posted by bigsmiff


    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    So basically this pathetic store owner has sold my dad, an innocent consumer, a graphics card that is basically shit off the sole of my shoe? I can't believe this! Just when I thought I was starting to improve my Packard Bell gaming system.

    Packard Bell?! WOW!

    I'm still trying to figure out how to upgrade the graphics on my Commodore 64...

    What are you trying to imply here?

    I was just in awe of your system...no harm meant...

    Seriously I sense sarcasm. What is wrong with Packard Bell?

     

    I sensed sarcasm in your PB post too. You are kidding about owning a PB right? If you do own one, you have both my apology and sympathy. 

    EDIT!!!

    OMG!!!...they still make them. I am so sorry for my ignorance on this. I had no idea. 

  • terroniterroni Member Posts: 935

    Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.

  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Member Posts: 2,414

    Originally posted by terroni

    Is then even an AGP slot in a packard bell let alone pci-e?

    Edit: HOLY HELL!! They still make packard bells!

    Here's why I thought they were out of business. They don't operate in the U.S. anymore. http://www.packardbell.com/index.html

    I suspect a foreign company just bought the PB name.

     

    What model do you have, Elpresador69?

    -Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
    -And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  • ThorkuneThorkune Member UncommonPosts: 1,969

    Yep...I owe you an apology Elpresador69, I thought you were pulling our leg. I haven't seen a PB in the U.S. in over a decade unless it was in a junk bin. I am glad they are still doing business...I had a good one back in the day.

  • jpnolejpnole Member UncommonPosts: 1,698
    If you were in the US you could just put the card back in the box and return it. Not sure how retail works in the UK. Return it and order a better deal from a reputable European online electronics vendor. I'm glad to be in the US with good old NEWEGG!!!
  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Member Posts: 2,414

    Originally posted by bigsmiff

    Yep...I owe you an apology Elpresador69, I thought you were pulling our leg. I haven't seen a PB in the U.S. in over a decade unless it was in a junk bin. I am glad they are still doing business...I had a good one back in the day.

    Apparently, Acer owns Packard Bell now.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9862009-7.html

     


    Originally posted by jpnole

    If you were in the US you could just put the card back in the box and return it. Not sure how retail works in the UK. Return it and order a better deal from a reputable European online electronics vendor. I'm glad to be in the US with good old NEWEGG!!!

    Yep, Newegg is my main supplier as well.image

    -Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
    -And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507

    A GeForce GT 220 offers about 1/3 of the performance of a Radeon HD 5750 on average.  Well, that's if you got a DDR3 version of the GT 220; there are also DDR2 versions, and those are much slower yet.  It's also vastly inferior in features, most notably missing DirectX 11, which the 5750 supports (as do newer Nvidia cards).  Going from a Radeon HD 5750 to a GeForce GT 220 means you lose the AMD-specific video card features.  You also don't really gain the Nvidia-specific features, as the card is too slow to act as even a dedicated PhysX card, and I don't think you'd see much gain from using it for CUDA, either.

    The store owner might have thought you had integrated graphics, in which case, a GT 220 would be a nice upgrade over that.  It certainly wouldn't be £120 worth of nice, but for £40 or so, you could maybe justify replacing integrated graphics with a GT 220.

    But yeah, probably he wanted to sell you whatever parts he made the largest profit margin on.  And old parts that he wanted to get rid of, because no one wants them.  The GT 220 had probably been sitting in his store for about a year, as that's about how long it has been obsolete for.

    This is why you ask what video card to get before making a purchase, not after.  Or rather, it's why you will in the future.  And from someone who isn't just trying to sell you something.

    For what it's worth, even if you did want a GT 220, you can get one for vastly cheaper than £120.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/176167

    Even at that price, it still costs more than it's worth, though.

  • Elpresador69Elpresador69 Member Posts: 36

    Originally posted by eyeswideopen

    Originally posted by terroni

    Is then even an AGP slot in a packard bell let alone pci-e?

    Edit: HOLY HELL!! They still make packard bells!

    Here's why I thought they were out of business. They don't operate in the U.S. anymore. http://www.packardbell.com/index.html

    I suspect a foreign company just bought the PB name.

     

    What model do you have, Elpresador69?

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/packard-bell-ixtreme-x6622uk-refurbished-desktop-pc-06200188-pdt.html

     

    I have this model here. I got it late summer last year.

  • EladiEladi Member UncommonPosts: 1,145

    Hey! I got a PB and its just running fine. probaly the best prebuild junk I ever had.. better then HP/Compaq or Acer plastics..

    Anyway GT220 is indeed a bad sale (for you) for that prize. and indeed even if the salesman is in the know about the hardware hes selling he still in 90% of the cases try to sell you either the old stuff or the over prized stuff.

    then again.. dads like yours(not saying this is your dad)  typical come into a store and say someting in the likes of..my kid needs a new..umm screencard ..yea..and he needs it for *looks on paper*  runescape and ..wow?.. 

    then I could Imagen the salesman just handing him someting desent enoug to play the games ( what the 220 can) and gives him a nice prize margin. afther all the only thing a salesman has to do is make sure the customer can run whatever he had on his list .

    a good salesman ofc thinks ahead (or uses that pitch) and sells a $300 card to a runescape player ;)

  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Member Posts: 2,414

    Originally posted by Elpresador69

    Originally posted by eyeswideopen


    Originally posted by terroni

    Is then even an AGP slot in a packard bell let alone pci-e?

    Edit: HOLY HELL!! They still make packard bells!

    Here's why I thought they were out of business. They don't operate in the U.S. anymore. http://www.packardbell.com/index.html

    I suspect a foreign company just bought the PB name.

     

    What model do you have, Elpresador69?

    http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/packard-bell-ixtreme-x6622uk-refurbished-desktop-pc-06200188-pdt.html

     

    I have this model here. I got it late summer last year.

    Hell, the GT320 that came with that is basically a GT220 ( or a cut down 240).

    http://www.guruht.com/2010/02/nvidia-gt320gt330-and-gt340.html

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_320_us.html

    -Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
    -And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507

    Originally posted by Eladi

    Hey! I got a PB and its just running fine. probaly the best prebuild junk I ever had.. better then HP/Compaq or Acer plastics..

    Packard Bell is Acer.  Part of Acer's plot to become a major computer manufacturer (now the second largest in the world, behind HP) was to buy up other brand names so that they can sell their products under several names.  They also sell computers branded as Gateway and eMachines.

  • MasterDeadlyMasterDeadly Member Posts: 78

    I suggest you simply refund the card. Your father was a vulnerable target for the salesman as he could have said almost anything to him and your dad would be none the wiser. If your dad is like mine that is. Refund it and perhaps buy an ATI Radeon 5770. From what you have said about the 5750 i think it had problems such as driver issues. Do you regularly update the drivers?

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