How is asking people to keep their boasting of a game under control a useless thread?
Expectation is the perception through which we see the world... If you expect a movie to be good you usually have a much higher rating of that movie than one that you expect to be bad...
All I'm warning against is that if something does go wrong with Rift's launch and all these high expectations aren't meant then it's going to result in a lot of people leaving.
Now I agree that Trion has a great team that addresses issues fast, but some issues with even the best teams will take time to fix.
We don't know what's coming at launch, and while I expect that it will go off without a hitch Rift will be glorified on all the review sites, and people will flock to the game. I understand that there might be problems, and those that have a unrealistic image of Rift might be severely disappointed because of their expectations...
Look bud , most people boasting at this point have played the beta, they happy and they want to voice it, what is it that you want ? you want them to say nothing ?you want them to tone it down ? you want them to dress like a nun and whip themselfs in sabatical till release?
Look you cant have it one way and not another , if peopel stay quiet you think thats not gona have a adverse effect cause all you will see is hate and thus negative press.
Tbh and i think if u were to be honest with urself its you have the issue here and i mean no offense by that , im the same i think one side you theres joy bubbling and cant wait and anticiaption is killin you for the hope of a great release of a great game, but the dark side of you is begging not for a massive build up for a horrible let down, dude deal with it .
I agree, I do have one side that is so excited about Rift it's about to burst, and another that has been burned in the past and is trying to avoid that with Rift. I also think there are a lot of people here (writing and reading) who haven't been burned like me.
I think there are readers and posters who are excited because maybe they have only played one or two games, and it's still going to lead to a problem if the game doesn't meet their expectations. Am I wrong? It will be devastating.
As we get closer and closer to launch this is going to just build and build (save some huge problem discovered in beta), and all I'm asking from the Rift supporters is to still be positive, but just not to the point where they are throwing around predictions like " this will crush WoW," or "Everyone needs to play Rift because of X," "There is nothing wrong with Rift!!!" this type of polarization is going to set the expectations very high for the readers... Do you disagree?
I dont disagree but your trying to tame human nature and you cant do it, just jump on the ride and go for broke, infact on release send me a mail here and ill join you for a blast , for better or for worse, just let everyone else do the same otherwise there maybe no one to play with hehe.
Yeah I sit quaking in my boots that some idiot on the internet will not like my game. Chances are I do not want to play with that idiot. Sorry, I like saying positive things about the game. Especially since they are true. I also don't see this trend of (OMG THIS GAEM IS GODD!) posts people are referring to here.
I guess I've been reading different posts, because anytime anyone argues or posts about Rift it seems larger than life...
How is asking people to keep their boasting of a game under control a useless thread?
Expectation is the perception through which we see the world... If you expect a movie to be good you usually have a much higher rating of that movie than one that you expect to be bad...
All I'm warning against is that if something does go wrong with Rift's launch and all these high expectations aren't meant then it's going to result in a lot of people leaving.
Now I agree that Trion has a great team that addresses issues fast, but some issues with even the best teams will take time to fix.
We don't know what's coming at launch, and while I expect that it will go off without a hitch Rift will be glorified on all the review sites, and people will flock to the game. I understand that there might be problems, and those that have a unrealistic image of Rift might be severely disappointed because of their expectations...
Look bud , most people boasting at this point have played the beta, they happy and they want to voice it, what is it that you want ? you want them to say nothing ?you want them to tone it down ? you want them to dress like a nun and whip themselfs in sabatical till release?
Look you cant have it one way and not another , if peopel stay quiet you think thats not gona have a adverse effect cause all you will see is hate and thus negative press.
Tbh and i think if u were to be honest with urself its you have the issue here and i mean no offense by that , im the same i think one side you theres joy bubbling and cant wait and anticiaption is killin you for the hope of a great release of a great game, but the dark side of you is begging not for a massive build up for a horrible let down, dude deal with it .
I agree, I do have one side that is so excited about Rift it's about to burst, and another that has been burned in the past and is trying to avoid that with Rift. I also think there are a lot of people here (writing and reading) who haven't been burned like me.
I think there are readers and posters who are excited because maybe they have only played one or two games, and it's still going to lead to a problem if the game doesn't meet their expectations. Am I wrong? It will be devastating.
As we get closer and closer to launch this is going to just build and build (save some huge problem discovered in beta), and all I'm asking from the Rift supporters is to still be positive, but just not to the point where they are throwing around predictions like " this will crush WoW," or "Everyone needs to play Rift because of X," "There is nothing wrong with Rift!!!" this type of polarization is going to set the expectations very high for the readers... Do you disagree?
I dont disagree but your trying to tame human nature and you cant do it, just jump on the ride and go for broke, infact on release send me a mail here and ill join you for a blast , for better or for worse, just let everyone else do the same otherwise there maybe no one to play with hehe.
Considering the last mmorpg to release in a polished and functional state was LotRO and before that WoW we should put it on a pedestal. Maybe if Rift is the one game since wow to be successful and an actual competitor then other devs will realize that they need to release polished and well executed games to also be successful.
the funny thing is that I argued against exactly the same points as I have here, that LotR was perfectly functional but just very boring etc, and I was shouted down by the fanbots, much the same was as I get around here. I was told that lotR was awesome and great, and was gonna be the new big MMO.
LotR is free to play with cash shop these days.
LotR was doing well when they switched to F2P. They wanted more money and they are getting it. It's a business model that works for them. I thought LotR was actually a great game back in the day. Horrible game for PvPers though.
I can see where the OP is coming from. Both AoC and WAR were praised by thousands of fanbots as being the WoW killer. Then after a couple of months people realised that they in fact had tons of issues and almost everyone left, including the fanbots.
Rift seems to be a good game but overhyping a game is never good as it will fail to reach all those expectation and eventually "fail" like those above mentioned games.
That is true and Rift of course isn't as good as many fans claim.
But unlike AoC and WAR is Rift actually compentently coded, and that is something we havn't seen in a long time. Rift is the best MMO that released in years even if we recognize most of the gameplay and AoC still looks a lot better.
Rift is a good game but it is far from perfect and have been number 4 on my wishlist for 2011 last year (I read up pretty good about the games that interest me).
I am not sure if I will start to play it or not. But building a game on good coding is the only way to do and I am sure that Rift will take over the niche that LOTRO and EQ2 had held for the last 5 years with a pretty nice population and faithful fans. It isn't really different enough to take loads of players from Wowor reach a million players but it is solid enough to run for many years and gets it own fans.
Considering the last mmorpg to release in a polished and functional state was LotRO and before that WoW we should put it on a pedestal. Maybe if Rift is the one game since wow to be successful and an actual competitor then other devs will realize that they need to release polished and well executed games to also be successful.
the funny thing is that I argued against exactly the same points as I have here, that LotR was perfectly functional but just very boring etc, and I was shouted down by the fanbots, much the same was as I get around here. I was told that lotR was awesome and great, and was gonna be the new big MMO.
LotR is free to play with cash shop these days.
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Considering the last mmorpg to release in a polished and functional state was LotRO and before that WoW we should put it on a pedestal. Maybe if Rift is the one game since wow to be successful and an actual competitor then other devs will realize that they need to release polished and well executed games to also be successful.
the funny thing is that I argued against exactly the same points as I have here, that LotR was perfectly functional but just very boring etc, and I was shouted down by the fanbots, much the same was as I get around here. I was told that lotR was awesome and great, and was gonna be the new big MMO.
LotR is free to play with cash shop these days.
LotR was doing well when they switched to F2P. They wanted more money and they are getting it. It's a business model that works for them. I thought LotR was actually a great game back in the day. Horrible game for PvPers though.
Of course it was, it was doing great and ruling the MMORPG universe... 0.o
but ok, whatever lol.
Hope your as cheery in a years time when this game does the same
(the fact you liked the snorefest that was LotR does explain to me why you like Rift tho lol)
Considering the last mmorpg to release in a polished and functional state was LotRO and before that WoW we should put it on a pedestal. Maybe if Rift is the one game since wow to be successful and an actual competitor then other devs will realize that they need to release polished and well executed games to also be successful.
the funny thing is that I argued against exactly the same points as I have here, that LotR was perfectly functional but just very boring etc, and I was shouted down by the fanbots, much the same was as I get around here. I was told that lotR was awesome and great, and was gonna be the new big MMO.
LotR is free to play with cash shop these days.
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
Considering the last mmorpg to release in a polished and functional state was LotRO and before that WoW we should put it on a pedestal. Maybe if Rift is the one game since wow to be successful and an actual competitor then other devs will realize that they need to release polished and well executed games to also be successful.
the funny thing is that I argued against exactly the same points as I have here, that LotR was perfectly functional but just very boring etc, and I was shouted down by the fanbots, much the same was as I get around here. I was told that lotR was awesome and great, and was gonna be the new big MMO.
LotR is free to play with cash shop these days.
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
havent you heard?
'It runs'.
Fixed.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Considering the last mmorpg to release in a polished and functional state was LotRO and before that WoW we should put it on a pedestal. Maybe if Rift is the one game since wow to be successful and an actual competitor then other devs will realize that they need to release polished and well executed games to also be successful.
the funny thing is that I argued against exactly the same points as I have here, that LotR was perfectly functional but just very boring etc, and I was shouted down by the fanbots, much the same was as I get around here. I was told that lotR was awesome and great, and was gonna be the new big MMO.
LotR is free to play with cash shop these days.
LotR was doing well when they switched to F2P. They wanted more money and they are getting it. It's a business model that works for them. I thought LotR was actually a great game back in the day. Horrible game for PvPers though.
Of course it was, it was doing great and ruling the MMORPG universe... 0.o
but ok, whatever lol.
Hope your as cheery in a years time when this game does the same
(the fact you liked the snorefest that was LotR does explain to me why you like Rift tho lol)
Oh come on, you are taking what people are saying and blowing it out of proportion. Where's the "tsk-tsk" tapping foot on ground emoticon with shaking head?
No one said it was ruling any universe.
But let's take a step back and really look at it. First, take WoW out of the equation. Now look at the "successful" games out there. I say "successful" as being able to sustain themselves and continue to add to their games.
What games out there were heads and shoulders over LOTRO? I would say that several games were on quasi-equal footing.
Let's see, EVE, EQ2, City of Heroes, Aion (in the west) or add your favorite games. It seems that many of the larger successful games are somewhere around 250k - or deep into the 300k range?
So LOTRO is/was in good company.
And for some reason you are applying this logic that says "LOTRO has cash shop and f2p option therefore it failed". Was it not in the same ball park as many of the larger successful games? Why can't we actually look at DDO, see that Turbine brought it back from the brink and then make the leap that the developers figured out if they applied the same ideas they would make MORE money.
And they did.
I think Rift is getting the attention it is getting precisely because it's polished, new, and people are having fun with it. For those who played deeper than just the tutorial level, they will have found a pretty fun and action packed games. Well, at least in Beta, I don't know how often the Rifts will happen on release.
People are excited because they have had to put up with a lot of nonsense over the last few years. I can understand why people would not like Rift; heck, the questing fatigued my mind until I stepped off that train.
It's the first game in a while where players are having boat loads of fun, don't have to worry about huge technical issues, and contains game play that is familiar enough that a large amount of people are joining and enjoying themselves.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
havent you heard?
'It runs'.
Fixed.
Too bad. It seems there were a lot of improvement in between betas.
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
havent you heard?
'It runs'.
Fixed.
Too bad. It seems there were a lot of improvement in between betas.
/Agree. I really think you might want to give it a second chance... Perhaps try another beta there are still 3 more before release.
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
havent you heard?
'It runs'.
Fixed.
Too bad. It seems there were a lot of improvement in between betas.
/Agree. I really think you might want to give it a second chance... Perhaps try another beta there are still 3 more before release.
Thanks guys but no thanks. It's the core mechanics that fail, patches don't fix things like that.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
havent you heard?
'It runs'.
Fixed.
Too bad. It seems there were a lot of improvement in between betas.
/Agree. I really think you might want to give it a second chance... Perhaps try another beta there are still 3 more before release.
Thanks guys but no thanks. It's the core mechanics that fail, patches don't fix things like that.
darn I was really hoping the OP could change your mind too.
Thanks guys but no thanks. It's the core mechanics that fail, patches don't fix things like that.
Well, let's look at it this way:
If you step off the leveling train and just do rifts and pvp then that could actually be a far more exciting and viable way to play the game.
You might have to do a quest or two in order to get an additional soul here or there but I found them pretty painless. The one for my void knight wasn't on a quest chain so I imagine many other aren't as well.
As far as weapons and armor, I went to the Auction House and bought them.
"So far" I have found the game completely playable while not having to do a huge amount of quests other than the tutorial level.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
havent you heard?
'It runs'.
Fixed.
Too bad. It seems there were a lot of improvement in between betas.
/Agree. I really think you might want to give it a second chance... Perhaps try another beta there are still 3 more before release.
Thanks guys but no thanks. It's the core mechanics that fail, patches don't fix things like that.
In 15 minutes, I doubt you could check very many "core" mechanics. You probably didn't even make it out of the launching point and only made it to level 3.
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
havent you heard?
'It runs'.
Fixed.
Too bad. It seems there were a lot of improvement in between betas.
/Agree. I really think you might want to give it a second chance... Perhaps try another beta there are still 3 more before release.
Thanks guys but no thanks. It's the core mechanics that fail, patches don't fix things like that.
In 15 minutes, I doubt you could check very many "core" mechanics. You probably didn't even make it out of the launching point and only made it to level 3.
With your closed mind, glad you won't be playing.
I played all of beta 1, probably 40 hours worth or so. No closed mind here, I was fully coherent to come to conclusions on Rift.
And with that kind of attitude, I'm glad I won't be playing with you either.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Every game has problems, however, from my short experience, trion is doing a damn good job and so far I believe they have earned their compliments.
However, nothing in in stone and life is a differential equation.
There is no need to be angry man, chill and enjoy life.
So much negativity on this site for so long, its a good game for what it is, let it be....
I have to agree! And I think we all realize these facts. But we feel the need to compensate for our past experiences, even though we should just chill out.
lol core mechanics failing coming from lotr's? okay I guess I will have to just say you view things a lot different then me for sure. Rift isn't set to be some crazy new game with loads of new features never seen in an mmo for sure. If anything it just did what warhammer should of done on release. The quests are linear to get from one point of the zone to another , the pq's are from war just took to the next level , and the pvp is similiar to warhammer online. This is the main thing that drives me , I wanted war very badly to succeed and fill that DAOC nitch , it failed misrably.
Rift created a pve/pvp game that isnt dumbed down like wow is. That is why I enjoy playing it as it fills that gap at least for awhile. During beta 1 and 2 both I logged out after about 8 hours of play from being bored to death. Beta 3 similiar , Beta 4 I played and couldnt get enough of the game. So I went from bored to death to highly entertained in less then about 20 game hours. I enjoy it now its not a kill all game but its def a lot better then 100% of the garbage out there on the market now and thats all that counts until something better takes players to the next best thing.
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
havent you heard?
'It runs'.
Fixed.
Too bad. It seems there were a lot of improvement in between betas.
/Agree. I really think you might want to give it a second chance... Perhaps try another beta there are still 3 more before release.
Played them all so far, and will probably poke my head in to see the next couple, just out of interest and morbid curiosity.
Considering the last mmorpg to release in a polished and functional state was LotRO and before that WoW we should put it on a pedestal. Maybe if Rift is the one game since wow to be successful and an actual competitor then other devs will realize that they need to release polished and well executed games to also be successful.
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I dont disagree but your trying to tame human nature and you cant do it, just jump on the ride and go for broke, infact on release send me a mail here and ill join you for a blast , for better or for worse, just let everyone else do the same otherwise there maybe no one to play with hehe.
I guess I've been reading different posts, because anytime anyone argues or posts about Rift it seems larger than life...
Alright, will do
LotR was doing well when they switched to F2P. They wanted more money and they are getting it. It's a business model that works for them. I thought LotR was actually a great game back in the day. Horrible game for PvPers though.
That is true and Rift of course isn't as good as many fans claim.
But unlike AoC and WAR is Rift actually compentently coded, and that is something we havn't seen in a long time. Rift is the best MMO that released in years even if we recognize most of the gameplay and AoC still looks a lot better.
Rift is a good game but it is far from perfect and have been number 4 on my wishlist for 2011 last year (I read up pretty good about the games that interest me).
I am not sure if I will start to play it or not. But building a game on good coding is the only way to do and I am sure that Rift will take over the niche that LOTRO and EQ2 had held for the last 5 years with a pretty nice population and faithful fans. It isn't really different enough to take loads of players from Wowor reach a million players but it is solid enough to run for many years and gets it own fans.
My score 4/5 (or good).
I found LotR to be a lot more fun than Rift and I actually played it for awhile. Rift was only able to hold my attention 15 minutes into beta 2 before I uninstalled. I really don't understand what people see in Rift, it's very shallow and boring.
*shrug*
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Of course it was, it was doing great and ruling the MMORPG universe... 0.o
but ok, whatever lol.
Hope your as cheery in a years time when this game does the same
(the fact you liked the snorefest that was LotR does explain to me why you like Rift tho lol)
havent you heard?
'It works'.
Fixed.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
Oh come on, you are taking what people are saying and blowing it out of proportion. Where's the "tsk-tsk" tapping foot on ground emoticon with shaking head?
No one said it was ruling any universe.
But let's take a step back and really look at it. First, take WoW out of the equation. Now look at the "successful" games out there. I say "successful" as being able to sustain themselves and continue to add to their games.
What games out there were heads and shoulders over LOTRO? I would say that several games were on quasi-equal footing.
Let's see, EVE, EQ2, City of Heroes, Aion (in the west) or add your favorite games. It seems that many of the larger successful games are somewhere around 250k - or deep into the 300k range?
So LOTRO is/was in good company.
And for some reason you are applying this logic that says "LOTRO has cash shop and f2p option therefore it failed". Was it not in the same ball park as many of the larger successful games? Why can't we actually look at DDO, see that Turbine brought it back from the brink and then make the leap that the developers figured out if they applied the same ideas they would make MORE money.
And they did.
I think Rift is getting the attention it is getting precisely because it's polished, new, and people are having fun with it. For those who played deeper than just the tutorial level, they will have found a pretty fun and action packed games. Well, at least in Beta, I don't know how often the Rifts will happen on release.
People are excited because they have had to put up with a lot of nonsense over the last few years. I can understand why people would not like Rift; heck, the questing fatigued my mind until I stepped off that train.
It's the first game in a while where players are having boat loads of fun, don't have to worry about huge technical issues, and contains game play that is familiar enough that a large amount of people are joining and enjoying themselves.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Too bad. It seems there were a lot of improvement in between betas.
/Agree. I really think you might want to give it a second chance... Perhaps try another beta there are still 3 more before release.
Thanks guys but no thanks. It's the core mechanics that fail, patches don't fix things like that.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
darn I was really hoping the OP could change your mind too.
Well, let's look at it this way:
If you step off the leveling train and just do rifts and pvp then that could actually be a far more exciting and viable way to play the game.
You might have to do a quest or two in order to get an additional soul here or there but I found them pretty painless. The one for my void knight wasn't on a quest chain so I imagine many other aren't as well.
As far as weapons and armor, I went to the Auction House and bought them.
"So far" I have found the game completely playable while not having to do a huge amount of quests other than the tutorial level.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
In 15 minutes, I doubt you could check very many "core" mechanics. You probably didn't even make it out of the launching point and only made it to level 3.
With your closed mind, glad you won't be playing.
Gaming since Avalon Hill was making board games.
Played SWG, EVE, Fallen Earth, LOTRO, Rift, Vanguard, WoW, SWTOR, TSW, Tera
Tried Aoc, Aion, EQII, RoM, Vindictus, Darkfail, DDO, GW, PotBS
I played all of beta 1, probably 40 hours worth or so. No closed mind here, I was fully coherent to come to conclusions on Rift.
And with that kind of attitude, I'm glad I won't be playing with you either.
"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky
I have to agree! And I think we all realize these facts. But we feel the need to compensate for our past experiences, even though we should just chill out.
lol core mechanics failing coming from lotr's? okay I guess I will have to just say you view things a lot different then me for sure. Rift isn't set to be some crazy new game with loads of new features never seen in an mmo for sure. If anything it just did what warhammer should of done on release. The quests are linear to get from one point of the zone to another , the pq's are from war just took to the next level , and the pvp is similiar to warhammer online. This is the main thing that drives me , I wanted war very badly to succeed and fill that DAOC nitch , it failed misrably.
Rift created a pve/pvp game that isnt dumbed down like wow is. That is why I enjoy playing it as it fills that gap at least for awhile. During beta 1 and 2 both I logged out after about 8 hours of play from being bored to death. Beta 3 similiar , Beta 4 I played and couldnt get enough of the game. So I went from bored to death to highly entertained in less then about 20 game hours. I enjoy it now its not a kill all game but its def a lot better then 100% of the garbage out there on the market now and thats all that counts until something better takes players to the next best thing.
Played them all so far, and will probably poke my head in to see the next couple, just out of interest and morbid curiosity.
But have they got a patch for boring?
Rift is as good as chocolate/pizza/s.. er yea
OOH I did try chocolate pizza once, it was tasty.
^^^ +1
You are soo correct here. Great post.
Yes, it's called 'moving on'.