Terrible game

M4ko

First i must say that idea behind ER is great, I will praise Atanasov for it. I wont mind waiting for all the features to be implemented into this empty sandbox-game to truely enjoy it, but besides being empty, everything else about this game is a failure.

- Physical collision/detection in this game is some of the worse ive ever seen. Character seems to walk on the air when hes on any curved surface. Movement feels like your sliding most of the time, getting stuck in simple places, getting KILLED for getting stuck in simple places. When you attack something with melee weps it feels like youre hitting air. Animations for all weapons are out sync with sounds and actions. Pretty much it feels like your character is disconnected from the environment. All this makes PVP and PVE a horrid experience.

And ive played some MMORPGs with FPS elements like: Neocron and Face of Mankind, and these games are more than 5 years old and somehow still had better feel for controls.

 

- grind is still there when you have to kill 5 of these mobs or go meet this NPC. Nothing sandboxy about that.

 

- major video stuttering. graphics are somewhere on par with SWG and below AOC's; both of those games run fine my laptop, but this game stutters everytime it loads a single physic in the background.

 

- useless structures placed around the map that seem to have some kind of use but in reality dont... I think its about time to not place useless crap like that in a sandbox mmo. INteractive objects lighting up yellow dissociates them from the game, same with question and exclamation marks that seem to be glued to NPCs heads.

 

It feels like Atanasov programmed this game right after he finished university, and played only 1 or 2 MMORPGs in the past. Whoever is their lead progammer , he needs to be replaced. For me to like this game it has to have a total overhaul, excluding the gaming world and engine. I feel sorry for all the fanbois who in 4 or 5 months will be playing on empty servers. 

My rating for this game is: Horribad.

Trixta

beta

PK4Gold

Originally posted by Trixta

beta

Considering the game comes out in 3 days!  your argument is pointless.

The game is that bad, and then some. A shame too, I guess I'll check on it in 6 months or so.

M4ko

Originally posted by Trixta

beta

not really, since this is what we will get in release, but even if they do come out with the patch, theres no way they can patch up the horrible physics detection, it will need a major workover, which i dont believe they are planning to do.

Worstluck

Originally posted by Trixta

beta

 

Yep, and it's three days from release.  In those three days I doubt a miracle patch is going to change the game.

 

I can't even freaking log into the beta client anymore.  None of my passwords work anymore.  Pretty frustrating and with no password recovery except for email requests....seems amateurish imo.

Vryheid

How is that "terrible"? You do realize that the vast majority of MMOs have suffered from all of the issues you listed above? If anything you should be calling the game "mediocre" at worst, whereas the fact that you're using battle rifles in quests rather than a wimpy sword automatically makes it "above average" in my book.

Anyways, the graphical issues are supposed to be fixed when the final game is released. Wait till the reviews come in before passing final judgment.

xpiher

Those are the reasons you give for the game sucking? WTF

Falcomith

There another thread thats ten pages talking about how bad it is. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4053125/thread/305610#4053125

zolfo

every single mmo out there now including eve and WoW have started this exact same way. granted wow had more content at start it was still a basic game and look  at it now. and with that i am very excited for this game i like the play i like the scenery i love the combat (albeit a bit clunky but still good) All this will be smoothed out in time. i remember the launch of sto (star trek online for those that dont know) it was shit. and its what a year later? and it hasnt really improved at all. this game however already has a "roadmap" that the devs have released telling you what will happen after launch. and so far i havnt been let down. im excited and cant wait for launch day. and as for your "empty" world, i will be playing from day one and when u finnaly start playing 3 or 4 months from now i will be a badass with some great gear that will be raping you everytime u leave town. and when u cry about it i will say "well you shoulda played from launch"

drakes821

Originally posted by M4ko

First i must say that idea behind ER is great, I will praise Atanasov for it. I wont mind waiting for all the features to be implemented into this empty sandbox-game to truely enjoy it, but besides being empty, everything else about this game is a failure.

- Physical collision/detection in this game is some of the worse ive ever seen. Character seems to walk on the air when hes on any curved surface. Movement feels like your sliding most of the time, getting stuck in simple places, getting KILLED for getting stuck in simple places. When you attack something with melee weps it feels like youre hitting air. Animations for all weapons are out sync with sounds and actions. Pretty much it feels like your character is disconnected from the environment. All this makes PVP and PVE a horrid experience.

And ive played some MMORPGs with FPS elements like: Neocron and Face of Mankind, and these games are more than 5 years old and somehow still had better feel for controls.

 

- grind is still there when you have to kill 5 of these mobs or go meet this NPC. Nothing sandboxy about that.

 

- major video stuttering. graphics are somewhere on par with SWG and below AOC's; both of those games run fine my laptop, but this game stutters everytime it loads a single physic in the background.

 

- useless structures placed around the map that seem to have some kind of use but in reality dont... I think its about time to not place useless crap like that in a sandbox mmo. INteractive objects lighting up yellow dissociates them from the game, same with question and exclamation marks that seem to be glued to NPCs heads.

 

It feels like Atanasov programmed this game right after he finished university, and played only 1 or 2 MMORPGs in the past. Whoever is their lead progammer , he needs to be replaced. For me to like this game it has to have a total overhaul, excluding the gaming world and engine. I feel sorry for all the fanbois who in 4 or 5 months will be playing on empty servers. 

My rating for this game is: Horribad.

And how long did you play the game? Did you unlock skills, craft items, explore the huge world, or PvP?

I played the beta for 30+ hours and didn't see many of the issues you mentioned.

pmaura

some of you people are high as  kite wow suffered from none of those problems on release. neither did AOC, warhammer or eve.

Not one of those games had you swing then 1 sec later hear the hit, the only time you say the rubber banding or gliding issues was extreeme lag.

all of them had better questing and mining.

all of them had better character custumization.

maybe you can compare this to MO or DF when they released. but all the others released in 10x a better condition. even UO had more to do but was super super super laggy.

the premise is good executrion lousy.

and to the to the people saying its a beta seriously  this is the game you are getting in a few days. and in a few weeks and if your lucky theres a big fix patch in a month expect 6 months before this is close to stable game with enough features to entertain, especially since there charging AAA prices

xpiher

Originally posted by pmaura

some of you people are high as  kite wow suffered from none of those problems on release. neither did AOC, warhammer or eve.

Not one of those games had you swing then 1 sec later hear the hit, the only time you say the rubber banding or gliding issues was extreeme lag.

all of them had better questing and mining.

all of them had better character custumization.

maybe you can compare this to MO or DF when they released. but all the others released in 10x a better condition. even UO had more to do but was super super super laggy.

the premise is good executrion lousy.

and to the to the people saying its a beta seriously  this is the game you are getting in a few days. and in a few weeks and if your lucky theres a big fix patch in a month expect 6 months before this is close to stable game with enough features to entertain, especially since there charging AAA prices

WoW: Server stability issues abound, broken quest, broken AI, Broken raids, crashes, severs down for weeks

AoC: Fall through the world bug, game crash, broken quest, broken AI, Broken territory control mechanics, and a host of exploits

EvE:  Did not play at launch

WAR: Stability issues abound espeically with more than 20 people on the screen. But the game as a whole just sucked

 

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Ryukan

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by pmaura

some of you people are high as  kite wow suffered from none of those problems on release. neither did AOC, warhammer or eve.

Not one of those games had you swing then 1 sec later hear the hit, the only time you say the rubber banding or gliding issues was extreeme lag.

all of them had better questing and mining.

all of them had better character custumization.

maybe you can compare this to MO or DF when they released. but all the others released in 10x a better condition. even UO had more to do but was super super super laggy.

the premise is good executrion lousy.

and to the to the people saying its a beta seriously  this is the game you are getting in a few days. and in a few weeks and if your lucky theres a big fix patch in a month expect 6 months before this is close to stable game with enough features to entertain, especially since there charging AAA prices

WoW: Server stability issues abound, broken quest, broken AI, Broken raids, crashes, severs down for weeks

AoC: Fall through the world bug, game crash, broken quest, broken AI, Broken territory control mechanics, and a host of exploits

EvE:  Did not play at launch

WAR: Stability issues abound espeically with more than 20 people on the screen. But the game as a whole just sucked

 

{Mod Edit}

 None of the games you mentioned were near as crap as Earthrise is and will be on launch.

xpiher

Originally posted by Ryukan

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by pmaura

some of you people are high as  kite wow suffered from none of those problems on release. neither did AOC, warhammer or eve.

Not one of those games had you swing then 1 sec later hear the hit, the only time you say the rubber banding or gliding issues was extreeme lag.

all of them had better questing and mining.

all of them had better character custumization.

maybe you can compare this to MO or DF when they released. but all the others released in 10x a better condition. even UO had more to do but was super super super laggy.

the premise is good executrion lousy.

and to the to the people saying its a beta seriously  this is the game you are getting in a few days. and in a few weeks and if your lucky theres a big fix patch in a month expect 6 months before this is close to stable game with enough features to entertain, especially since there charging AAA prices

WoW: Server stability issues abound, broken quest, broken AI, Broken raids, crashes, severs down for weeks

AoC: Fall through the world bug, game crash, broken quest, broken AI, Broken territory control mechanics, and a host of exploits

EvE:  Did not play at launch

WAR: Stability issues abound espeically with more than 20 people on the screen. But the game as a whole just sucked

 

{Mod Edit}

 None of the games you mentioned were near as crap as Earthrise is and will be on launch.

 

Really? Because I played AoC and WAR at launch. Both games played horribly, AoC for content and crashing and WAR simply because it sucked. 

ER beta state > AoC release state. I fell through the world and crashed in AoC repeatedly

Arquiteto

then you havent used many teleporters in ER or else you would notice the same thing happens. Also I don't remember having to relog every 15 minutes because mobs were dissappearing

saker

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Originally posted by PK4Gold

Originally posted by Trixta
beta

Considering the game comes out in 3 days!  your argument is pointless.
The game is that bad, and then some. A shame too, I guess I'll check on it in 6 months or so.

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Agree!

xpiher

Originally posted by Arquiteto

then you havent used many teleporters in ER or else you would notice the same thing happens. Also I don't remember having to relog every 15 minutes because mobs were dissappearing

You right, I haven't use many teleports. Isn't that what they are fixing right now? And yea, AoC had mob sync issues as well. 

Sicc1

Originally posted by pmaura

some of you people are high as  kite wow suffered from none of those problems on release. neither did AOC, warhammer or eve.

Not one of those games had you swing then 1 sec later hear the hit, the only time you say the rubber banding or gliding issues was extreeme lag.

all of them had better questing and mining.

all of them had better character custumization.

maybe you can compare this to MO or DF when they released. but all the others released in 10x a better condition. even UO had more to do but was super super super laggy.

the premise is good executrion lousy.

and to the to the people saying its a beta seriously  this is the game you are getting in a few days. and in a few weeks and if your lucky theres a big fix patch in a month expect 6 months before this is close to stable game with enough features to entertain, especially since there charging AAA prices

Your off your rocker. WoW was unplayable after release for many reasons.  The biggest was the fact you couldnt loot anything. Dont even get me started on AoC....WAR i didnt have many problems with however. I did beta test and purchase all the mentioned titles. Come to think of it there snot many games i dont purchase, they all provide fun in one way or another.

deminos

yea ER is garbage .....my 1st experiance in the beta was haveing to deal with dc'ing every 1 min due to the noobie

areas keep crashing non stop. the overall feel of the game just feels wrong. imo this game is gonna crash n burn faster

then apb did.

drake_hound

Honestly 3 days of beta , only 1 day i could play , first day 10 min dc problems

2nd day character zone /loading stuck problems.

3rd day just finished tutorial game ...

 

Ok honestly tons of minor bugs and glitches especially with quest selecting a choice of rewards ...

Bad tutorial explanations like ALT to go into combat modes alt is close to my window key >.<

Shift to sprint etc , really bad lack of tutorial ...

 

Shame its open pvp for me , but I can honestly say those people who love it , will like it .

Tons of features I like , I could see this game in 1 year if it still excist being quite fabulous , especially the combat system is quite good (since am playing from the netherlands who has less then 50ms ping)

Its really nice design idea and philosophy .

People who love this kind of game can´t be dissapointed , so all in all , Its a high learning curve indy sandbox game .

So definetly for those people its quite good

I expected much worst , so was suprised its quite ok , just sadly not my cup of tea .

pmaura

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by pmaura

some of you people are high as  kite wow suffered from none of those problems on release. neither did AOC, warhammer or eve.

Not one of those games had you swing then 1 sec later hear the hit, the only time you say the rubber banding or gliding issues was extreeme lag.

all of them had better questing and mining.

all of them had better character custumization.

maybe you can compare this to MO or DF when they released. but all the others released in 10x a better condition. even UO had more to do but was super super super laggy.

the premise is good executrion lousy.

and to the to the people saying its a beta seriously  this is the game you are getting in a few days. and in a few weeks and if your lucky theres a big fix patch in a month expect 6 months before this is close to stable game with enough features to entertain, especially since there charging AAA prices

WoW: Server stability issues abound, broken quest, broken AI, Broken raids, crashes, severs down for weeks

AoC: Fall through the world bug, game crash, broken quest, broken AI, Broken territory control mechanics, and a host of exploits

EvE:  Did not play at launch

WAR: Stability issues abound espeically with more than 20 people on the screen. But the game as a whole just sucked

 {Mod Edit}

 I played all these games at luanch and betas them all.

WoW did not have servers down for weeks, they had queing problems becuase they vastly underestimated number of people. for every 1 quest broken 50 were not. How many quests does ER have 4? But I am still play occasional my origainl hunter on emerald dream when ever I get the come back to wow offers.

AOC played perfect for me from earlt start to know. sieges were and still are broken and it occiasion had other issues. crafting sucked and it had limited quests and virtually no middlle ground quests. but either way it had more then 4.

Eve played for me. not sure what your talking about. they had a lot of repeatable random quests depending on level, pvp that worked and mining that worked and crafting that worked. and character creator that worked.

War also I had no ussues with . and has the best PVP out there but it gets borring doing the same rvr over and over.

Do not try to defend the release state of this game.

Oh yeah all the above game had banks.

mgilbrtsn

People keep complaining about the server crashes and I wonder when they occurred.  I've been in the beta for the past couple of days and haven't been dropped once.  Maybe i'm on at odd times i don't know.  If these crashes were prior to the latest patch, then its time to let it go.  The problem is somewhat fixed.  Maybe try it again and see if there is an improvement from when you were experiencing these problems.  And if you still experience these problems, perhaps theres another underlying problem.  IDK.

xpiher

Originally posted by pmaura

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by pmaura

some of you people are high as  kite wow suffered from none of those problems on release. neither did AOC, warhammer or eve.

Not one of those games had you swing then 1 sec later hear the hit, the only time you say the rubber banding or gliding issues was extreeme lag.

all of them had better questing and mining.

all of them had better character custumization.

maybe you can compare this to MO or DF when they released. but all the others released in 10x a better condition. even UO had more to do but was super super super laggy.

the premise is good executrion lousy.

and to the to the people saying its a beta seriously  this is the game you are getting in a few days. and in a few weeks and if your lucky theres a big fix patch in a month expect 6 months before this is close to stable game with enough features to entertain, especially since there charging AAA prices

WoW: Server stability issues abound, broken quest, broken AI, Broken raids, crashes, severs down for weeks

AoC: Fall through the world bug, game crash, broken quest, broken AI, Broken territory control mechanics, and a host of exploits

EvE:  Did not play at launch

WAR: Stability issues abound espeically with more than 20 people on the screen. But the game as a whole just sucked

 

{Mod Edit}

 I played all these games at luanch and betas them all.

WoW did not have servers down for weeks, they had queing problems becuase they vastly underestimated number of people. for every 1 quest broken 50 were not. How many quests does ER have 4? But I am still play occasional my origainl hunter on emerald dream when ever I get the come back to wow offers.

AOC played perfect for me from earlt start to know. sieges were and still are broken and it occiasion had other issues. crafting sucked and it had limited quests and virtually no middlle ground quests. but either way it had more then 4.

Eve played for me. not sure what your talking about. they had a lot of repeatable random quests depending on level, pvp that worked and mining that worked and crafting that worked. and character creator that worked.

War also I had no ussues with . and has the best PVP out there but it gets borring doing the same rvr over and over.

Do not try to defend the release state of this game.

Oh yeah all the above game had banks.

You didn't play AOC and mis-read what  I meant. I didn't play EvE at launch

M4ko

Originally posted by Falcomith

There another thread thats ten pages talking about how bad it is. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4053125/thread/305610#4053125

i think it needs more threads like it.

TheLizardbones

The question marks are part of your head's up display. Ditto for the nameplates above people and mobs, duh.

Really, if they'll just get the lag fixed so that the game plays smoothly, I could really give a cr@p about everything else. I'd like the shadows fixed too, but for now, just fix the ability of the game to actually run from frame to frame without hiccups.

Everything else, including bright yellow teleport pods can be fixed or adjusted later.

The game isn't terrible by a long shot. It's not great either. It's definitely a starter indie game, but it could thrive. It all really depends on what Masthead does in the first month or two.

* edit * I played Warhammer and AoC at launch. Neither of those games had the issues that ER is having with the server and client lag. Both of those games manage to bork themselves. The issues ER is having are resolvable. The issues that AoC and War had were not resolvable, they were built into the games.

Kaynos1972

Originally posted by Trixta

beta

Funny when people post it suck because it's in beta.   THe game is supposed to release this month, you believe in magic patch ?