Sure their are crazy people, but you probably have more chance of being hit by a falling plane, than some anonymous tough guy on the net actually doing something....Most of them probably do not like to brave the outdoors!
Most of the time the threats are meaningless.
But you can't forget that everyone has internet nowadays, including the crazy people who would do this. Everyone has access, even people in many prisons have internet access.
Sure their are crazy people, but you probably have more chance of being hit by a falling plane, than some anonymous tough guy on the net actually doing something....Most of them probably do not like to brave the outdoors!
Most of the time the threats are meaningless.
But you can't forget that everyone has internet nowadays, including the crazy people who would do this. Everyone has access, even people in many prisons have internet access.
People in prison wouldn't make death threats.
All communication is looked at. They have Internet in the hopes 1 or 2 retards send an incriminating email to someone else.
OP:
It all depends on what you were doing. If you support the republican party in chat then (lol) dont wonder why 90% of people are jumping at your throat. If you're not doing optimal damage, don't wonder why either. All MMOs are math. You can't wake up in the morning and say "my opinion is that 1+2 = 509." I'm pretty sure it wasn't all just opinion, and i'm pretty sure if you have 30 people hating you, it's due to the fact you were claiming god exists or something like that which is totally wrong. 30 people isn't just a trolling act. You must really do/say something retarded to get that much hate.
Games have to be fun, and if you aren't having fun, then I hope you find something that is fun. Having said that I've played from Beta 4 on and the community did take an expected nose dive in the open beta. It's to be expected, a lot of people were on just to bash the game and constantly say things like "WOW CLONE" over and over again in chat.
You do find that as you level into the different chat channels things get better. 10-19 for example is 5 times better then 1-9. Funnily enough one of the pro WOW trolls in 1-9 I grouped up with at lvl 14 and he admitted in group chat that the game was much better then he had expected and he was having fun! Shock horror! LOL
The game is good.
My advice is come back a month after launch and find some decent people to join up with. I'll be on Wolfbane server and am a similar age to you. There is a good crew of people there that are going to be starting a mature casual guild after launch. If you are interested send me a message here on MMORPG and i'll send you my handle.
And as for the stuff Teala is going through, there is no excuse for that and I hope MMORPG staff coordinate with authorities to put a stop to it. Anyone who says she shouldn't take it dead seriously and report every incident is showing a serious lack of empathy and maturity. At the very least it's cyber bullying, and has no place on this website.
Cheers,
Hyperwolf
You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks ~ WC
What server were you on? I've had nothing but good experiences on Rift. The most frustrating chat event has been people not listening in a warfront. I've encountered one rude idiot so far and that's it, which is an all time record low. Maybe you should consider a different server?
From what i have experienced is that pvp server has the harsh community and the pve servers which i have tested around 3 of them! Have a great community. Players keep asking questions in level chats and get answers right away or the channels are used to give orders in invasions which by the way are a blast and take quite some time to defend.
You know, I didnt want to say this, but I had my 40th birthday today, I feel it's like "ok I am officially not young anymore"
I got bad news man, you have been officially not young for over ten years.
I only played a couple levels of ranger/marksman, and it was the easiest mode class I've tried so far, but maybe it gets more difficult later. Not to diss your skills or anything, maybe you just didn't grasp how you hit one button to get combo points, then a second button to completely remove the enemy's lifebar.
You can't judge any game's difficulty on the first few levels. In Rift, you will get to level 18 before any seriously hard to do quests. Some players continue to solo quite well, all the levels. I don't know how much it depends on your class. I did find pet classes worked best for me.
A beta community does not represent, in the slightest, a community at release. Besides all mmo communities are pretty much the dregs of society. Our poor social skills are why we're online in the first place.
Teala, do like i do, just invite the a-holes over. I'm whats called a gun-nut by the lame stream media & have no problem telling any internet bully my address.
Since you have the printed copies of their threats, once they show up at your house, they are bought & paid for.
The last thing I'm going to base my decision on purchasing a game is the community during a beta
Community cannot possibly be rated until this becomes a PAID game and weeds out some of the bad/annoying apples.
I can only focus on gameplay/polish and maybe a dash of how the CS team are shaping up
This is very true, people who have been in open beta should already know this, I have seen this in almost any open beta game where the community was just piss-poor, kinda the reason when I get in beta's I often keep to myself and if the game seems intrested enough I wil judge en start to spend some time with the community after the game goes live.
It's funny that people will judge Open-Beta community as if that's the community that we might encounter when it's released, sure in some occasions it might remain the same, but more often the community chances as soon people need to start paying for their game.
Kinda thought that Elikal would have know this due to knowing the guy does have some game experiance over the years, so kinda strange to see him make a topic like this as if he is new to this genre or open beta.
My own experiance with most beta game is that often the closed beta's have pretty decent people playing/testing it, but when open beta's get's live it completely changes.
You can't judge any game's difficulty on the first few levels. In Rift, you will get to level 18 before any seriously hard to do quests.
Quests in Rift never become harder. The hardest quest we did was killing the Hag in Gloamwood and we duo'd it easily. All the other quests I have ever done were solod by me up to level 33.
I never had a reason to group. I could level with quests, with warfronts, with rifts and with soloing mobs. All of those things do not require a group made on your own.
The only exception has been dungeons, but my friend left the game before I did so I didn't feel like doing them anymore.
Going off the logic that "Time =/= Difficulty," I can't think of an MMORPG where getting to cap is "difficult."
I'll take this train of thought a step further and say that leveling up is a bad way to determine an MMORPG's difficulty.
Slow leveling has some added challenges maybe.
You can't just get to the level cap again like it's nothing, you need to behave yourself in the game and make friends who last. You don't get "second chances".
I agree with time =/= difficulty, but added challenges.
You know, I didnt want to say this, but I had my 40th birthday today, I feel it's like "ok I am officially not young anymore"
I got bad news man, you have been officially not young for over ten years.
Ahh..spoken like a naive 20something.
Youth is all in your head. Feel young, be young. Guess what, it (can) get ALOT better after 30 (39 here). It can be cool to be a grown-up. Or maybe I've been lucky. I've had much more fun in my 30's than my 20's.
/old man rant off
On topic: Sorry to see you leave because of the community, though to be honest I think that if you really enjoyed playing deep down you would stick around. I'm going to play my 30 days and hope it grabs me, but I'm already bored in Beta so I'm not optimistic right now.
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Really? I agree completely playing on the beta servers and open beta servers can cause me to ignore chat, but take a grown up objective look at the forum community that actually intends to play rift, and at the non beta servers if you have that option (which most likely you don't). I haven't seen a more friedly, welcoming & mature community in ages. And a LOT of what draws me to a game is the community (Vanguard, EQ, EQ2).
You're welcome to base your opinions of the 'community' on an open beta in which we clearly see people with no intention of playing the game spew all kinds of rubbish in chat channels, but I think if you've lived as long as you say you may realise the value in taking a fair look at the actual community.
I've only seen anti-social behavior on the beta servers that everyone has access to, it's hardly indicitive of the core community, or I'd be long gone.
There are a number of criticisms one could level at this and any game, but in all honesty I just can't see how the actual community can come under fire as the friendly atmosphere is one of the larger draws for us.
I think you seriously may want to consider whether or not your experiences (which are vastly different than mine) may be due to the fact that you're playinbg on an open beta/beta server. Then re-evaluate, if you still feel the same, then I guess we just have different opinions on what equates to a mature, friendly & welcoming community.
I just find it unfortunate, as I've just seen the complete opposite.
Actually it was five total, two from one person. I did contact authorities and the response I got was. Do I know this person personally. I said "no". They told me that if I knew this person personally I could file a restraining order through the courts. Well that is not an option. They requested I forward the email and I did. I was also told that no crime was committed. This Lt. actually said people say crazy stuff all the time and it doesn't mean they'll follow through with it and unless I know the person personally, or he has stalked me, and I have proof of it, or has done me bodily harm, there is not really anything much they can do.
What I find amazing is that my little critic of a "game" that pointed out only things I found in "my opinion" as short comings, or failures(which were few mind you) could garnar such vitriolic hate. It's a game. Nothing more...just a game. I didn't murder somones cat, or family member, of sleep with some guys or girls SO. It was a blog post. A silly little blog post. Never have I seen such behaviour as I have seen in the Rift community. Go look at some of the responses in that one thread, and even on my own blog, --- I left them up. It amazes me that even though I said great things about the game, and even suggested that people should give it a shot, I was bombarded with some comments that anyone else would have deleted due to their negativity. I left them though. I left them because it is just a blog, a blog that I enjoy writing and will continue to write and I want people to see that despite thier behaviour...I'll continue to write. I am not a professional writer, never claimed to be. I'm just a gamer that blogs.
I guess the point is that if you look at the total number of potential players in Rift, probably less than 1% has ever heard of a "Teala" or even read blogs. If you look at what they estimate to get for subs (modest estimate: 200-300k at launch) how many of them do you think know you are critical of Rift? Exactly.. probably less than 1% of 1%.
So because you got what.. 100 emails maximum (if you say you got MORE than that, your credibility here is severly gonna be tested) saying they hate you, you suck, and you don't know anything (along with the four death threats), how are you saying that's the whole Rift community? That just makes no sense based on sheer numbers.
Again, you know you got asshats in teeny-tiny game like Mount and Blade as well. You know there are plenty of individual jerks and entire huge corporations in EvE who do similar things (I've seen them in Perpettum's beta) who excel at douchebaggery.
This is not a Rift thing, it's a people thing and your favorite games have them as well.
QFT
The amazing thing to me, and as others have pointed out, is that she continually wants to only respond to the back and forth negative comments and lament on the harsh words said at her and how she was wronged yet she won't own up to the fact that she took a blanket character shot at the entire Rift community and slandered them (slander is also an item for which legal action can be taken) and has yet to own up to her mistake, acknowledge it and apologize for it.
I've easily, easily interacted with 3 or for times more folks than the hundred or so she mentions through my time involved testing this game that didn't act in the manner she describes. Her blanket comment, and I've refrained from using such language in hopes she'd temper her blunderbuss of slander, is a flat out lie. Pure and simple.
Of course, anyone with even an iota of perspective knows that right away. There are bad apples in every MMO community. One should expect to draw them when you put yourself out there by writing blogs and especially having those blogs highlighted and linked on the from of an MMO website. The Rift community in general has no idea who she is.
It was most likely one of her blog followers that followed her over to Rift, played the game and liked it and is now railing back against her views. They post it on the O forums and the "drop in a bucket" of people who responded to her blog, in her mind, now constitutes the entirety of the Rift community.
Hardly.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
I recieved hate email in my rift account, and in my mmorpg account. Trion refused to take action to shut down that thread, that is on trion. However you report somebody here who sends you some hatefull stuff, they get it in the chops.
That is the thread that got me hate, and got her hate, and the thread that was allowed to go 11 pages without moderation.
There are some nasty replies in this thread you posted. In here it would be (thankfully) removed. Did TW moderators trim it at all? There are some insightful replies. But the OP cleverly pulled a strawman by focusing on mounts to destroy her argument, as it happened here with those comments on squirrels.
Not to excuse any bad posts, but anything negative in a game's website right before release is a buzz kill to a lot of fans, and some may react in a bad way. I usually avoid those places in such times, as it becomes too difficult to discuss about anything. I suppose websites like mmorpg.com are a bit better (though sometimes it tends toward negativity) when you want to post about a video-game.
No they did not trim it, in fact the thread is still unlocked fortunalty it got burried but still you can see what happened. It got nastly yes it did, and trion let it continue. However I will say this they do moderate things that are way negative, but in this case they let the dogpile happen. See the double standard.
You should fight this all the way to The Supreme Court.
europe server communities dont seem overly bad to me. people are dumb as bread these days - in and out of the internet - but who cares? they are amusing, if not, turn off chat. OP: you got other problems than your gaming anyway, not? one who gets pissed that easily and has to point out his age should find out what really buggers him - and if its RIFT .. well you know Darwin.
Actually it was five total, two from one person. I did contact authorities and the response I got was. Do I know this person personally. I said "no". They told me that if I knew this person personally I could file a restraining order through the courts. Well that is not an option. They requested I forward the email and I did. I was also told that no crime was committed. This Lt. actually said people say crazy stuff all the time and it doesn't mean they'll follow through with it and unless I know the person personally, or he has stalked me, and I have proof of it, or has done me bodily harm, there is not really anything much they can do.
What I find amazing is that my little critic of a "game" that pointed out only things I found in "my opinion" as short comings, or failures(which were few mind you) could garnar such vitriolic hate. It's a game. Nothing more...just a game. I didn't murder somones cat, or family member, of sleep with some guys or girls SO. It was a blog post. A silly little blog post. Never have I seen such behaviour as I have seen in the Rift community. Go look at some of the responses in that one thread, and even on my own blog, --- I left them up. It amazes me that even though I said great things about the game, and even suggested that people should give it a shot, I was bombarded with some comments that anyone else would have deleted due to their negativity. I left them though. I left them because it is just a blog, a blog that I enjoy writing and will continue to write and I want people to see that despite thier behaviour...I'll continue to write. I am not a professional writer, never claimed to be. I'm just a gamer that blogs.
I guess the point is that if you look at the total number of potential players in Rift, probably less than 1% has ever heard of a "Teala" or even read blogs. If you look at what they estimate to get for subs (modest estimate: 200-300k at launch) how many of them do you think know you are critical of Rift? Exactly.. probably less than 1% of 1%.
So because you got what.. 100 emails maximum (if you say you got MORE than that, your credibility here is severly gonna be tested) saying they hate you, you suck, and you don't know anything (along with the four death threats), how are you saying that's the whole Rift community? That just makes no sense based on sheer numbers.
Again, you know you got asshats in teeny-tiny game like Mount and Blade as well. You know there are plenty of individual jerks and entire huge corporations in EvE who do similar things (I've seen them in Perpettum's beta) who excel at douchebaggery.
This is not a Rift thing, it's a people thing and your favorite games have them as well.
QFT
The amazing thing to me, and as others have pointed out, is that she continually wants to only respond to the back and forth negative comments and lament on the harsh words said at her and how she was wronged yet she won't own up to the fact that she took a blanket character shot at the entire Rift community and slandered them (slander is also an item for which legal action can be taken) and has yet to own up to her mistake, acknowledge it and apologize for it.
I've easily, easily interacted with 3 or for times more folks than the hundred or so she mentions through my time involved testing this game that didn't act in the manner she describes. Her blanket comment, and I've refrained from using such language in hopes she'd temper her blunderbuss of slander, is a flat out lie. Pure and simple.
Of course, anyone with even an iota of perspective knows that right away. There are bad apples in every MMO community. One should expect to draw them when you put yourself out there by writing blogs and especially having those blogs highlighted and linked on the from of an MMO website. The Rift community in general has no idea who she is.
It was most likely one of her blog followers that followed her over to Rift, played the game and liked it and is now railing back against her views. They post it on the O forums and the "drop in a bucket" of people who responded to her blog, in her mind, now constitutes the entirety of the Rift community.
Hardly.
Agreed.
Problem is a lot of the flack she was getting was mostly caused by her constant egging and provoking when people didn't agree with her statements. It's like walking into a room and screaming "Everyone here is an assh@!#!" and then afterwards trying to seek sympathy because 'Everyone hates me...'.
As for the OP, I don't so much think it's a fact that he doesn't understand that beta communities =/= live communities, but more along the lines of reinforcing a personal reason to not play the game. I think he might have started to actually like the game but maybe had to convince himself not to buy it. I have seen this sort of behaviour before when people try to justify not buying something. I mean I could be wrong, but judging by his few posts it really does seem like he was making up excuses to convince himself more than to explain his feelings to the community.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
All general chat channels were extremely quiet today compared to other days. No talk about other games (except for a FFA full loot sandbox person complaining about Rift PvP).
You can't judge a game's community by its playerbase three months into the game, let alone when it's in public beta testing.
You'll get a much better feel for the community of the game once the shine wears off for most people, so I'd say 4-6 months after release is the best time to start gauging the maturity level of Rift's community.
I don't understand the hatred or flaming of WoW or Rift players. Those guys take more abuse than anyone.
Its because some people think that WoW players are only assholes online. I came to the realization awhile ago that most humans, including myself, are douchebags in one way or another. The internet just allows them to be that way without societies normal consequences.
It not just WoW players that suck, take look at ANY online forum or message board and you will find that between all of the advertising spam they are full of racist, sexist, homoerotic comments.
My recommendation to anyone getting upset about it is to take a deep breath and stop worrying about what all the assholes in the world have to say.
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Most of the time the threats are meaningless.
But you can't forget that everyone has internet nowadays, including the crazy people who would do this. Everyone has access, even people in many prisons have internet access.
The last thing I'm going to base my decision on purchasing a game is the community during a beta
Community cannot possibly be rated until this becomes a PAID game and weeds out some of the bad/annoying apples.
I can only focus on gameplay/polish and maybe a dash of how the CS team are shaping up
People in prison wouldn't make death threats.
All communication is looked at. They have Internet in the hopes 1 or 2 retards send an incriminating email to someone else.
OP:
It all depends on what you were doing. If you support the republican party in chat then (lol) dont wonder why 90% of people are jumping at your throat. If you're not doing optimal damage, don't wonder why either. All MMOs are math. You can't wake up in the morning and say "my opinion is that 1+2 = 509." I'm pretty sure it wasn't all just opinion, and i'm pretty sure if you have 30 people hating you, it's due to the fact you were claiming god exists or something like that which is totally wrong. 30 people isn't just a trolling act. You must really do/say something retarded to get that much hate.
Hey Eikal.
Games have to be fun, and if you aren't having fun, then I hope you find something that is fun. Having said that I've played from Beta 4 on and the community did take an expected nose dive in the open beta. It's to be expected, a lot of people were on just to bash the game and constantly say things like "WOW CLONE" over and over again in chat.
You do find that as you level into the different chat channels things get better. 10-19 for example is 5 times better then 1-9. Funnily enough one of the pro WOW trolls in 1-9 I grouped up with at lvl 14 and he admitted in group chat that the game was much better then he had expected and he was having fun! Shock horror! LOL
The game is good.
My advice is come back a month after launch and find some decent people to join up with. I'll be on Wolfbane server and am a similar age to you. There is a good crew of people there that are going to be starting a mature casual guild after launch. If you are interested send me a message here on MMORPG and i'll send you my handle.
And as for the stuff Teala is going through, there is no excuse for that and I hope MMORPG staff coordinate with authorities to put a stop to it. Anyone who says she shouldn't take it dead seriously and report every incident is showing a serious lack of empathy and maturity. At the very least it's cyber bullying, and has no place on this website.
Cheers,
Hyperwolf
You will never reach your destination if you stop and throw stones at every dog that barks
~ WC
What server were you on? I've had nothing but good experiences on Rift. The most frustrating chat event has been people not listening in a warfront. I've encountered one rude idiot so far and that's it, which is an all time record low. Maybe you should consider a different server?
Haha nicely said.
From what i have experienced is that pvp server has the harsh community and the pve servers which i have tested around 3 of them! Have a great community. Players keep asking questions in level chats and get answers right away or the channels are used to give orders in invasions which by the way are a blast and take quite some time to defend.
I got bad news man, you have been officially not young for over ten years.
I only played a couple levels of ranger/marksman, and it was the easiest mode class I've tried so far, but maybe it gets more difficult later. Not to diss your skills or anything, maybe you just didn't grasp how you hit one button to get combo points, then a second button to completely remove the enemy's lifebar.
You can't judge any game's difficulty on the first few levels. In Rift, you will get to level 18 before any seriously hard to do quests. Some players continue to solo quite well, all the levels. I don't know how much it depends on your class. I did find pet classes worked best for me.
A beta community does not represent, in the slightest, a community at release. Besides all mmo communities are pretty much the dregs of society. Our poor social skills are why we're online in the first place.
Teala, do like i do, just invite the a-holes over. I'm whats called a gun-nut by the lame stream media & have no problem telling any internet bully my address.
Since you have the printed copies of their threats, once they show up at your house, they are bought & paid for.
Sure closes most of them down fast.
This is very true, people who have been in open beta should already know this, I have seen this in almost any open beta game where the community was just piss-poor, kinda the reason when I get in beta's I often keep to myself and if the game seems intrested enough I wil judge en start to spend some time with the community after the game goes live.
It's funny that people will judge Open-Beta community as if that's the community that we might encounter when it's released, sure in some occasions it might remain the same, but more often the community chances as soon people need to start paying for their game.
Kinda thought that Elikal would have know this due to knowing the guy does have some game experiance over the years, so kinda strange to see him make a topic like this as if he is new to this genre or open beta.
My own experiance with most beta game is that often the closed beta's have pretty decent people playing/testing it, but when open beta's get's live it completely changes.
Quests in Rift never become harder. The hardest quest we did was killing the Hag in Gloamwood and we duo'd it easily. All the other quests I have ever done were solod by me up to level 33.
I never had a reason to group. I could level with quests, with warfronts, with rifts and with soloing mobs. All of those things do not require a group made on your own.
The only exception has been dungeons, but my friend left the game before I did so I didn't feel like doing them anymore.
Going off the logic that "Time =/= Difficulty," I can't think of an MMORPG where getting to cap is "difficult."
I'll take this train of thought a step further and say that leveling up is a bad way to determine an MMORPG's difficulty.
.. But in a good way.
Slow leveling has some added challenges maybe.
You can't just get to the level cap again like it's nothing, you need to behave yourself in the game and make friends who last. You don't get "second chances".
I agree with time =/= difficulty, but added challenges.
Ahh..spoken like a naive 20something.
Youth is all in your head. Feel young, be young. Guess what, it (can) get ALOT better after 30 (39 here). It can be cool to be a grown-up. Or maybe I've been lucky. I've had much more fun in my 30's than my 20's.
/old man rant off
On topic: Sorry to see you leave because of the community, though to be honest I think that if you really enjoyed playing deep down you would stick around. I'm going to play my 30 days and hope it grabs me, but I'm already bored in Beta so I'm not optimistic right now.
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Really? I agree completely playing on the beta servers and open beta servers can cause me to ignore chat, but take a grown up objective look at the forum community that actually intends to play rift, and at the non beta servers if you have that option (which most likely you don't). I haven't seen a more friedly, welcoming & mature community in ages. And a LOT of what draws me to a game is the community (Vanguard, EQ, EQ2).
You're welcome to base your opinions of the 'community' on an open beta in which we clearly see people with no intention of playing the game spew all kinds of rubbish in chat channels, but I think if you've lived as long as you say you may realise the value in taking a fair look at the actual community.
I've only seen anti-social behavior on the beta servers that everyone has access to, it's hardly indicitive of the core community, or I'd be long gone.
There are a number of criticisms one could level at this and any game, but in all honesty I just can't see how the actual community can come under fire as the friendly atmosphere is one of the larger draws for us.
I think you seriously may want to consider whether or not your experiences (which are vastly different than mine) may be due to the fact that you're playinbg on an open beta/beta server. Then re-evaluate, if you still feel the same, then I guess we just have different opinions on what equates to a mature, friendly & welcoming community.
I just find it unfortunate, as I've just seen the complete opposite.
QFT
The amazing thing to me, and as others have pointed out, is that she continually wants to only respond to the back and forth negative comments and lament on the harsh words said at her and how she was wronged yet she won't own up to the fact that she took a blanket character shot at the entire Rift community and slandered them (slander is also an item for which legal action can be taken) and has yet to own up to her mistake, acknowledge it and apologize for it.
I've easily, easily interacted with 3 or for times more folks than the hundred or so she mentions through my time involved testing this game that didn't act in the manner she describes. Her blanket comment, and I've refrained from using such language in hopes she'd temper her blunderbuss of slander, is a flat out lie. Pure and simple.
Of course, anyone with even an iota of perspective knows that right away. There are bad apples in every MMO community. One should expect to draw them when you put yourself out there by writing blogs and especially having those blogs highlighted and linked on the from of an MMO website. The Rift community in general has no idea who she is.
It was most likely one of her blog followers that followed her over to Rift, played the game and liked it and is now railing back against her views. They post it on the O forums and the "drop in a bucket" of people who responded to her blog, in her mind, now constitutes the entirety of the Rift community.
Hardly.
"Many nights, my friend... Many nights I've put a blade to your throat while you were sleeping. Glad I never killed you, Steve. You're alright..."
Chavez y Chavez
You should fight this all the way to The Supreme Court.
Agreed.
Problem is a lot of the flack she was getting was mostly caused by her constant egging and provoking when people didn't agree with her statements. It's like walking into a room and screaming "Everyone here is an assh@!#!" and then afterwards trying to seek sympathy because 'Everyone hates me...'.
As for the OP, I don't so much think it's a fact that he doesn't understand that beta communities =/= live communities, but more along the lines of reinforcing a personal reason to not play the game. I think he might have started to actually like the game but maybe had to convince himself not to buy it. I have seen this sort of behaviour before when people try to justify not buying something. I mean I could be wrong, but judging by his few posts it really does seem like he was making up excuses to convince himself more than to explain his feelings to the community.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
All general chat channels were extremely quiet today compared to other days. No talk about other games (except for a FFA full loot sandbox person complaining about Rift PvP).
I don't understand the hatred or flaming of WoW or Rift players. Those guys take more abuse than anyone.
You can't judge a game's community by its playerbase three months into the game, let alone when it's in public beta testing.
You'll get a much better feel for the community of the game once the shine wears off for most people, so I'd say 4-6 months after release is the best time to start gauging the maturity level of Rift's community.
Its because some people think that WoW players are only assholes online. I came to the realization awhile ago that most humans, including myself, are douchebags in one way or another. The internet just allows them to be that way without societies normal consequences.
It not just WoW players that suck, take look at ANY online forum or message board and you will find that between all of the advertising spam they are full of racist, sexist, homoerotic comments.
My recommendation to anyone getting upset about it is to take a deep breath and stop worrying about what all the assholes in the world have to say.