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Bioware 0 : Betasheda 1000

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This must make Bioware weep



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  • BenediktBenedikt Member UncommonPosts: 1,406

    you are totaly right ..... if you are a graphic-whore who care more about graphics then about gameplay, because as far as gameplay goes, this trailer doesnt show anything

  • Miles-ProwerMiles-Prower Member Posts: 1,106

    Someone posted the trailer already in this very same forum, but it's a good trailer, so I'll let it slide =P.

     

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    A trailer for a game that is not coming out until the end of the year and is not a MMO is going to make Bioware weep. Yeah...

    In Bioware we trust!

  • Thatim2Thatim2 Member Posts: 29

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    A trailer for a game that is not coming out until the end of the year and is not a MMO is going to make Bioware weep. Yeah...

    You know Bioware makes other games then MMO's, right?

  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751

    Originally posted by Benedikt

    you are totaly right ..... if you are a graphic-whore who care more about graphics then about gameplay, because as far as gameplay goes, this trailer doesnt show anything

    Clearly because Morrowind (Bloodmoon, Tribunal) and Oblivion (Knights of the Nine, etc) were CLEARLY horrible games full of ludicrous gameplay that could be beaten in under 5 hours right?

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578

    Nice trailer but it's just that, a trailer.

  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by Thatim2

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    A trailer for a game that is not coming out until the end of the year and is not a MMO is going to make Bioware weep. Yeah...

    You know Bioware makes other games then MMO's, right?

     Nope, just MMOs.

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  • whilanwhilan Member UncommonPosts: 3,472

    LIkewise heres one of BW trailers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlACgYHtWCI

    Enjoy

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,951

    Originally posted by Benedikt

    you are totaly right ..... if you are a graphic-whore who care more about graphics then about gameplay, because as far as gameplay goes, this trailer doesnt show anything

    Well, as I said in the other thread that had this trailer, I played Morrowind for over 2 years (and am dabbling with it now) and I'm "still" playing Oblivion.

    I have no doubt, given how I absolutely love those games that this will be amazing.

    As far as bioware/bethesda?

    I love bioware's games, am playing through Dragon Age one more time and will buy Dragonage II.

    But if given the choice, Elder Scroll's all the way.

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  • BenediktBenedikt Member UncommonPosts: 1,406

    Originally posted by Ikeda

    Originally posted by Benedikt

    you are totaly right ..... if you are a graphic-whore who care more about graphics then about gameplay, because as far as gameplay goes, this trailer doesnt show anything

    Clearly because Morrowind (Bloodmoon, Tribunal) and Oblivion (Knights of the Nine, etc) were CLEARLY horrible games full of ludicrous gameplay that could be beaten in under 5 hours right?

     first of all, that previous games are good doesnt mean that next one will be too, there are tons of examples for that out there

    second, as far as gameplay goes, i prefer more or less any bioware game over any eldar scroll game (it is true tho, that more i know about DA2, the less i am excited.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    I like how this trailer shows a lot of features they were talking about in the podcast.

    I notice most of you think this trailer is just fluff let me explain what its showing that it does a good job of.

    Dragons, 3rd person view being revamped, action cutscenes for attacks (the throat slitting near the middle there)

    They used their best designers and formed a group to just work on dragons for two years, and it shows.  I can't wait to see what the AI can do in game.  Graphis look very updated and the waterfalls look VASTLY more realistic.

    Can't wait.

  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    The decieved trailer is ten times better than this one.

    In Bioware we trust!

  • CeridithCeridith Member UncommonPosts: 2,980

    Originally posted by arenasb

    Nice trailer but it's just that, a trailer.

    It showed some snippets of gameplay.

    Going by Bethesda's track record, I would be extremely surprised if Skyrim failed to deliver some amazing gameplay.

  • FeydawayFeydaway Member Posts: 122

    Elder Scrolls over DA:O?  Absolutely.  I'm not even going to buy DA2.

    But, this doesn't come out until Nov/Dec, right?  Not sure how that makes Bioware weep.  DA2 comes out in 2 weeks.

  • whilanwhilan Member UncommonPosts: 3,472

    I have no doubts that it will be good.  The only part i dispute is that Bioware somehow is going to be crying or something.  That part i simply don't see happening. Not with 3 major releases coming this year.

    I will enjoy all the games as i always do.

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  • VirusDancerVirusDancer Member UncommonPosts: 3,649

    I see hands on the screen...I see hands on the screen.

    Amazing as anything else may have been, I could not get past seeing hands on the screen like I was back in the 90's...maybe the 80's even?

    The pew pew with the wand (perhaps a staff) just made me laugh...

    ...really do not get what the trailer had to do with BioWare 0 and Bethesda 1000 though.

    edit:  Oh, comparing ES to DA, eh?

    edit:  Because it could not be a ES to ME comparison, right?

    I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    I like how this trailer shows a lot of features they were talking about in the podcast.

    I notice most of you think this trailer is just fluff let me explain what its showing that it does a good job of.

    Dragons, 3rd person view being revamped, action cutscenes for attacks (the throat slitting near the middle there)

    They used their best designers and formed a group to just work on dragons for two years, and it shows.  I can't wait to see what the AI can do in game.  Graphis look very updated and the waterfalls look VASTLY more realistic.

    Can't wait.

     It looks good and I like the Morrowind series, but they way OP is pitting Bioware vs Bethesda is kinda sad. I agree it looks pretty, but so does Aion.

    In Bioware we trust!

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584

    also if you don't consider the normal glitchs, problem on performance, lame history, and games too damn easy even on the hardest lvl maybe bethesda can be better then bioware,

     

    at least bioware games never give me any problem, other then do the EA way of do bussiness

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  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914

    Well to be fair they are two differnet kinds of games... Where Skyrim will be an RPG , DA will be an Action/Story console mess..

  • just1opinionjust1opinion Member UncommonPosts: 4,641

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Originally posted by Thatim2


    Originally posted by Nazgol

    A trailer for a game that is not coming out until the end of the year and is not a MMO is going to make Bioware weep. Yeah...

    You know Bioware makes other games then MMO's, right?

     Nope, just MMOs.

     

    This is sarcasm, right?

     

    DA:O wasn't an MMO. Neither were any of their games that came before. So far as I recall (I could be wrong)  SWTOR is the ONLY MMO Bioware has ever made. I think game companies can be competitive even ACROSS genre lines, for that matter. There are times that single player games vastly outsell MMOs, so....I'm not sure genre lines prevent the competitive nature of the business.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,951

    Originally posted by Benedikt

    Originally posted by Ikeda


    Originally posted by Benedikt

    you are totaly right ..... if you are a graphic-whore who care more about graphics then about gameplay, because as far as gameplay goes, this trailer doesnt show anything

    Clearly because Morrowind (Bloodmoon, Tribunal) and Oblivion (Knights of the Nine, etc) were CLEARLY horrible games full of ludicrous gameplay that could be beaten in under 5 hours right?

     first of all, that previous games are good doesnt mean that next one will be too, there are tons of examples for that out there

     

    You are absolutely right, it doesn' tmean that it will be good.

    but From what I've seen of the elderscrolls' series and how they have been evolving them, I can't imagine they will change the thrust of what these games are about.

    They are into making large open worlds where players can do what they want. That in and of itself is a plus.

    Couple that with their new radiant AI, the game director that monitors and feeds the player content and a track record of making great games (though there is a schism between some morrowind players and some oblivion players) and I am confident that this will be a great experience.

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  • VirusDancerVirusDancer Member UncommonPosts: 3,649

    Want to point this out again, as it being repeated by various people over and over and over:

    BioWare

    Not Bioware...

    ...then again, it is Bethesda and not Betasheda.

    I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827

    Im bethesda fan, but i liked also bioware games but this last DA2 is so terible and crap.

    Im not realy intrested anymore in bioware they are console craptastic gamemakers now with big boss EA breathing down there neck saying make games that earn us billiosn dont care if its console mass market bullshit games as long it makes $$$ ok bioware:P.

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  • NazgolNazgol Member Posts: 864

    Originally posted by just1opinion

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    Originally posted by Thatim2

    Originally posted by Nazgol

    A trailer for a game that is not coming out until the end of the year and is not a MMO is going to make Bioware weep. Yeah...

    You know Bioware makes other games then MMO's, right?

     Nope, just MMOs.

     

    This is sarcasm, right?

     

    DA:O wasn't an MMO. Neither were any of their games that came before. So far as I recall (I could be wrong)  SWTOR is the ONLY MMO Bioware has ever made. I think game companies can be competitive even ACROSS genre lines, for that matter. There are times that single player games vastly outsell MMOs, so....I'm not sure genre lines prevent the competitive nature of the business.

     Twas sarcasm.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195

    It would be pointless to say that Skyrim won't be good,  but why would that make BioWare cry exactly?  DA2 and ME3 will likely do just as well.  Just because this game is good doesn't mean BioWare is even in the least bit worried that it has... well.. any bearing on how well their games do.

     

    And last time I checked their name was Bethesda...  just saying..



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