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End Game Content

TheFarseerTheFarseer Member Posts: 97

Rift currently has:-

8 endgame dungeons (on expert difficulty)

6 Rift raids

1 "normal" raid

Never mind the many, many, MANY rifts etc that people can close.

People are saying this isn't enough end game content? The amount of normal raids is lacking, but everything else seems fine to me.

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  • skullquakerskullquaker Member UncommonPosts: 311

    from looking at the vids these dont seem that taxing just get big grp and  kill do the bosses do any thing out of this world to make it hard . do have to work up to these hard rifts  i can see this game getting old very quick  i know it would for me 

     

  • odinsrathodinsrath Member UncommonPosts: 814

    ask your self this..all that raid content you speak of is prolly because of the fast lvling we are seeing in the game..theres another game that had did this also and that is DC online ..not saying rift is that fast like DC but lots of people are close to cap if not capped for that content in rift or atleast its what some people are saying in forums when asked their lvl / class..hence its why DC is going down the crapper fast because they cant keep the content rolling in fast enuff to satisfy the needs..imo i think the same will happen to this game ..fast lvling dull gameplay and not enuff content to keep afloat long enuff...unlees they roll out a xpan that raises the lvl caps with more raid stuff to do ..umm wow like..just saying

  • SandvichedSandviched Member Posts: 28

    And future major content update is not far off:

    Players won’t be waiting three months for new major content update.

  • odinsrathodinsrath Member UncommonPosts: 814

    Originally posted by Sandviched

    And future major content update is not far off:

    Players won’t be waiting three months for new major content update.

    see what i mean ..rolling in content soo fast is truely not a good thing... any  experienced mmorpg player would tell you straight away that the game was shallow to even begin with...but it seems this is what alot of people like nowa days i guess

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,445

    As opposed to the millions of extraordinarily deep, story led raids you find at end game in other MMO’s…right. :)


     


    I agree that rolling out new content so quickly is not a good thing, we will only know how good it is once we see it. But it is better to take time and not pander to players who want end raid dungeon number 37 a month after launch.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Originally posted by odinsrath

    Originally posted by Sandviched

    And future major content update is not far off:

    Players won’t be waiting three months for new major content update.

    see what i mean ..rolling in content soo fast is truely not a good thing... any  experienced mmorpg player would tell you straight away that the game was shallow to even begin with...but it seems this is what alot of people like nowa days i guess

    So far we have a company that is on the ball on whatever minor bugs were found in the game, on the ball on player request. So far they have delivered whatever they promised they will. This time they promised fast content updates and this is somehow a bad thing? Really?

  • SandvichedSandviched Member Posts: 28

    Originally posted by Xasapis

    So far we have a company that is on the ball on whatever minor bugs were found in the game, on the ball on player request. So far they have delivered whatever they promised they will. This time they promised fast content updates and this is somehow a bad thing? Really?

    I'll just leave this here:

    So you guys would rather grind the same raid every week for years with no content update?

    How's fast content update is a bad thing anyway, it's not like when new content get released nobody will do older content. I don't remember tokens in rift will get you the same gears in older raids like WoW.

  • odinsrathodinsrath Member UncommonPosts: 814

    have you played DC online ? do you even understand? if you fail to see what im saying i guess your blind or deff ...devs / mmo's that cater to the masses are a fail ..see wow ..not that they failed makeing money...but once they started catering to the mass kiddies it was all down hill from there....adding content to a new game soon after a release shows that its very shallow btw

  • SandvichedSandviched Member Posts: 28

    No I have not played DCUO as I have no interest in comic superheroes. Would kindly you explain to me , oh the all knowing MMO professor? Fast content update equal shallow? Slow content update equal deep? I think Aion proved you wrong.

  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    Originally posted by odinsrath

    have you played DC online ? do you even understand? if you fail to see what im saying i guess your blind or deff ...devs / mmo's that cater to the masses are a fail ..see wow ..not that they failed makeing money...but once they started catering to the mass kiddies it was all down hill from there....adding content to a new game soon after a release shows that its very shallow btw

    No, I have not played DCUO unfortunately, steam doesn't offer it in my region. You're comparing two different developers though. Trion so far has delivered whatever they said they will deliver. Maybe it's old news for a lot of people, maybe it's tired same thing for others, but the fact remains that the features that were promised to be in the game are actually there. Given the above positive history so far, wouldn't you agree that since now they promise fast updates, they will probably follow up to their positive history and deliver as promised?

  • TheFarseerTheFarseer Member Posts: 97

    Originally posted by skullquaker

    from looking at the vids these dont seem that taxing just get big grp and  kill do the bosses do any thing out of this world to make it hard . do have to work up to these hard rifts  i can see this game getting old very quick  i know it would for me 

    You do realise that (even at low levels) more players being around makes the enemies stronger, right? With stacking health and damage buffs?

    So, if you have more players than the amount of content demands, the fight gets harder.

  • odinsrathodinsrath Member UncommonPosts: 814

    Originally posted by TheFarseer

    Originally posted by skullquaker

    from looking at the vids these dont seem that taxing just get big grp and  kill do the bosses do any thing out of this world to make it hard . do have to work up to these hard rifts  i can see this game getting old very quick  i know it would for me 

    You do realise that (even at low levels) more players being around makes the enemies stronger, right? With stacking health and damage buffs?

    So, if you have more players than the amount of content demands, the fight gets harder.

    seeing thats what people dont want..they dont want deeper gameplay nor harder things to do..they want massive content a month after release instead...so it seems....and as for the OP i'll break it down for you..

     

    deeper game means lots more to do and no content needed for awhile..im not saying years so stop puting words in my mouth

     

    shallow gameplay meaning geting a massive content xpan / update seeing the devs already have lots to do for "end gamers" with thegame not even being out no longer than a month

     

    i was just saying DC was similar in that way not like they are the same game so dont imply that

  • SandvichedSandviched Member Posts: 28

    Off topic:

    This thing is really bugging me, I don't see these "hardcores" go to WoW's board bitch about how the game is shallow and stuffs, yet they're all locking on to Rift board, is Rift taking away their games subs or something?

  • ScribZScribZ Member Posts: 424

    Just curious here, but do any of you people here know WHY they are bringing out the content update in the first month? Really know why, or are you just going to make up some wild idea of what you THINK it means or whwt you THINK they are trying to do? Cause what I have read in this thread it sure looks ot me like the latter.

  • BribarianIBribarianI Member Posts: 120

    I think in an attempt by WoW and these newer games to appeal to more casual players they end up shooting themselves in the foot and leaving everyone bored.


  • Originally posted by odinsrath

    have you played DC online ? do you even understand? if you fail to see what im saying i guess your blind or deff ...devs / mmo's that cater to the masses are a fail ..see wow ..not that they failed makeing money...but once they started catering to the mass kiddies it was all down hill from there....adding content to a new game soon after a release shows that its very shallow btw

     

    Have you actually played the game? The zones I have experienced so far are rich in detail, there are brilliant opportunities to explore, and I feel there is so much to do - gathering, crafting, work orders, exploring, try PvP, fail at PvP, do some RP instead, fight off invasions, seal RIfts, destroy Defiant footholds, normal quests, dailies, dungeons, collections, acheivements, try a different combination of souls (there are only 56 of these to try for each archetype), try a different archetype, take a walk on the Defiant side. I can understand people would say it is generic at this early stage, but shallow, nuh-uh.

     

    Not having made it to the Realm of Fae yet, news that they are introducing new content is almost intimidating. Oo

  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    Originally posted by ScribZ

    Just curious here, but do any of you people here know WHY they are bringing out the content update in the first month? Really know why, or are you just going to make up some wild idea of what you THINK it means or what you THINK they are trying to do? Cause what I have read in this thread it sure looks ot me like the latter.

    I like that post, and I enjoy it even more in big bright yellow print.

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  • ZippyZippy Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,412

    Originally posted by TheFarseer

    Rift currently has:-

    8 endgame dungeons (on expert difficulty)

    6 Rift raids

    1 "normal" raid

    Never mind the many, many, MANY rifts etc that people can close.

    People are saying this isn't enough end game content? The amount of normal raids is lacking, but everything else seems fine to me.

    A few corrections.  Rift currently has:

    1. 10 Expert Dungeons divided into two tiers.

    2.  2 Overland Raid bosses

    3.  Not sure how many total Rift Raids. 

    4.  One Raid Dungeon  with 5 bosses.  A second, third and fourth raid dungoen schedulded to be released in 30 day increments starting in April.

  • SandvichedSandviched Member Posts: 28

    Originally posted by Zippy

     

    A few corrections.  Rift currently has:

    1. 10 Expert Dungeons divided into two tiers.

    2.  2 Overland Raid bosses

    Can you explain more please?

    3.  Not sure how many total Rift Raids. 

    4.  One Raid Dungeon  with 5 bosses.  A second, third and fourth raid dungoen schedulded to be released in 30 day increments starting in April.

    If this is true then whoa, talk about content overloading.

  • TheFarseerTheFarseer Member Posts: 97

    Originally posted by Sandviched

    Originally posted by Zippy


     

    A few corrections.  Rift currently has:

    1. 10 Expert Dungeons divided into two tiers.

    2.  2 Overland Raid bosses

    Can you explain more please?

    3.  Not sure how many total Rift Raids. 

    4.  One Raid Dungeon  with 5 bosses.  A second, third and fourth raid dungoen schedulded to be released in 30 day increments starting in April.

    If this is true then whoa, talk about content overloading.

    @Zippy: I thought I might be wrong. xD

    @Sandviched: If you ever played Vanilla WOW, there were world bosses. That meant raid bosses just wandering around. These Overland Raids are basically raids that you open up in public that everyone can join in to complete.

  • SandvichedSandviched Member Posts: 28

    Originally posted by TheFarseer

    @Sandviched: If you ever played Vanilla WOW, there were world bosses. That meant raid bosses just wandering around. These Overland Raids are basically raids that you open up in public that everyone can join in to complete.

    I know about open world bosses but was just wondering if these 2 overland bosses are the same bosses from invasions.

  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    Here's a thought -

    Slow down and enjoy the leveling process.

    My highest toon is 21 and I see the level 50's on my server and just laugh... 

  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    Originally posted by ScribZ

    Just curious here, but do any of you people here know WHY they are bringing out the content update in the first month? Really know why, or are you just going to make up some wild idea of what you THINK it means or whwt you THINK they are trying to do? Cause what I have read in this thread it sure looks ot me like the latter.

    They (Trion) said in the podcasts that it is because they were ahead on their schedule so they were able to work on new stuff.

    Seriously.

    As anyone who has played can attest to, the game is very polished and relatively bug free, so instead of spending the last month or two of development chasing down fires they've instead been able to focus on new, post-launch content.

    It's totally un-heard of in the MMO industry, I know, but that is STRAIGHT out of the dev's mouths. 

  • Musket-SquidMusket-Squid Member UncommonPosts: 386

    Originally posted by skullquaker

    from looking at the vids these dont seem that taxing just get big grp and  kill do the bosses do any thing out of this world to make it hard . do have to work up to these hard rifts  i can see this game getting old very quick  i know it would for me 

     

     and by your hours you seem to run the same stuff over and over in WOW. Why are you worried about this games end content getting boring when you run another ones a lot?

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  • TyratopsTyratops Member Posts: 98

    They can either release smaller more regular content updates or larger more infrequent ones.  In the end the outcome is the same, stop bitching about nothing.

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