The mesmer is one of the more popular MMO classes and unique to GW, it is rather likely it will be in.
A musketeer with rifle, pistol and sword together with medium armor would also add a interesting class for PvP.
I don't believe in gunner, since that term sounds more like someone using Canons instead of muskets, and something like that wouldn't really work well with the other classes.
One for all and all for one.
I agree. A musketeer profession is almost certain in my book. I'm predicting that besides muskets they will be able to use pistols and swords. However, none of the previous classes have been defined by their weapon, so "musketeer" is just a place holder for me.
Everyone seems pretty confident about the mesmer's return, but that's entirely based upon a single piece of concept art and wishful thinking. However, they did confirm that one of the remaining professions would be a returning profession, and the mesmer is perhaps the most likely candidate. But who knows? They could very well surprise us and bring back the monk with a focus more toward crowd control and smiting.
mesmer haters...Guild wars 2 will have a mesmer (maybe not the name...no THEY WILL HAVE THE NAME) The mesmer IS guild wars.
and for god sakes in Edge of Destiny the author describes the Queen as a mesmer.
My money's on an engineer. The asura's need something for their golems, the charr something for their battle machines. Seems to fit perfectly.
Racials skills could do that but then again I have no real alternative. We're almost 100% sure that the profession will use both pistols and rifles. What does that leave us with? Engineer? Pirate? Cowboy? Indiana Jones? Tomb Raider? Who knows?
For the quoted quote above, we know that a Monk is not returning, the devs have even said so. With all of the information that we know it is pretty much a given that the Mesmer will be one of the 2 remaining professions. They said that one of GW professions would be returning. What GW professions remain? Paragon, Dervish, Monk, Ritualist, Assassin, and Mesmer. The assassin has been remade into the Thief so eliminate that one. The Guardian has said to appeal to Monk players so it is sort of a replacement, eliminate the monk. There are no spears or scythes in the game so that pretty much eliminates the Paragon and Dervish (besides I think there are elements of both of them in some of the other professions such the Guardian and Warrior). What remains are the Ritualist and Mesmer. While I prefer the Ritualist as a player everything points to the Mesmer as the returning profession.
The real question is what will the brand new profession be. I am going with the majority here and say it will be an engineer/alchemist type of profession. I believe rifles will be one of the weapons that it will use (since only one profession has been shown to use that weapon so far). But that is really just a guess.
It is confirmed that out of the final two professions, one will be a returning profession and one will be a brand new profession.
Then Arenanet mentioned something about how GW players who played assassins will be happy, and GW players who played mesmer will be happy.
Since the thief was a reconstructed assassin, we know that the profession to make mesmer players happy that will just be a returning profession will not have as many changes.
The next profession will probably be the mesmer, with that name since it is the returning profession (like the elementalist, warrior, necromancer, & ranger), since they seem to be following a pattern with archetypes of profession releases, but then again anet did say they were not following a pattern.
For those of you who say mesmers aren't that popular or whatnot, and for those of you who say mesmers made GW unique from every other MMO, all I can say is none of that really matters for GW2. They are looking for a profession that will work, a profession that is unique in mechanic and lore, and a profession that isn't too complicated to play and very fun to play. They try to cover every possibility (of lore & mechanic) with each profession, and they have yet to have a mind-oriented profession that attacks with non physical harm. For its theme, we still need the masquerade, joker, clown, magician, bard, or entertainer looking profession. We even have the raven spirit and Goddess Lyssa who relate to trickery and charm. You might say a necromancer's fear is enough mind-control for GW2, but fear is a physical fight-or-flight response. Maybe you even think dazing is enough mind-control, but once again that is a physical reaction to harm of the head. There are so many possibilities a mind-oriented profession could have (illusions, mind-reading, mind-control, memory erasing, unconsiousness, etc.) but it seems very difficult to incorporate such things into a game. With this in mind, the mesmer may be the last profession to be released since it is so difficult to make perfect. A thief's stealth is easy to incorporate into a game since it just makes it invisible to players. But trying to make a player confused or delusional is harder to do. It is easy to just say your character is confused and it randomly attacks allies (which is what some WoW bosses do... & I hate it), but the GW mesmer had something unique in PvP where it could literally frustrate and mentally affect a player.
So will there be a mesmer in GW2? I believe so... is there proof of it? Yes, in books and concept art. Will it be a playable profession? Now thats another question that I cannot answer.
As for the other profession, it stumps me. I have predicted all of the released professions so far, and I have absolutely no idea about this final profession. People say it may be a mechanic/engineer (it will definitly not be called a gunner or musketeer, that is too specific on a certain type of weapon. Ranger was a fine name since it was specific to its natural theme and ranged playstyle [don't try and argue that they aren't ranged-oriented, cuz they are, even with all their melee weapons]. Plus we already have a sword-pistol profession that could look pirate-ish, the thief!), and I could believe it. The theme is relevant to the industrial revolution over the past hundreds of years. I have no idea on the mechanic though. I'm assuming they can build or reinforce constructs and make environmental weapons for their allies such as gadgets and gizmos. I guess they could make traps too, being the 3rd profession that can do that. They will probably use pistols, rifles, and big heavy two handed weapons. Who knows what their special ability will be. Who knows if they will even have a twist, like the thief's initiative system.
Its long... but I like it.
If mesmers aren't going to be playable, it would be sad though
It is confirmed that out of the final two professions, one will be a returning profession and one will be a brand new profession.
Then Arenanet mentioned something about how GW players who played assassins will be happy, and GW players who played mesmer will be happy.
Since the thief was a reconstructed assassin, we know that the profession to make mesmer players happy that will just be a returning profession will not have as many changes.
The next profession will probably be the mesmer, with that name since it is the returning profession (like the elementalist, warrior, necromancer, & ranger), since they seem to be following a pattern with archetypes of profession releases, but then again anet did say they were not following a pattern.
For those of you who say mesmers aren't that popular or whatnot, and for those of you who say mesmers made GW unique from every other MMO, all I can say is none of that really matters for GW2. They are looking for a profession that will work, a profession that is unique in mechanic and lore, and a profession that isn't too complicated to play and very fun to play. They try to cover every possibility (of lore & mechanic) with each profession, and they have yet to have a mind-oriented profession that attacks with the non physical harm. For its theme, we still need the masquerade, joker, clown, magician, bard, or entertainer appearing profession. You might say a necromancer's fear is enough mind-control for GW2, but fear is a physical fight-or-flight response. There are so many possibilities a min-oriented profession could have (illusions, mind-reading, mind-control, memory erasing, unconsiousness, etc.) but it seems very difficult to incorporate such things into a game. With this in mind, the mesmer may be the lasdt profession to be released since it is so difficult to make perfect. A thief's stealth is easy to incorporate into a game since it just makes it invisible to players. But trying to make a player confused or delusional is harder to do. It is easy to just say your character is confused and it randomly attacks allies (which is what some WoW bosses do... I hate it), but the GW mesmer had something unique in PvP where it could literally frustrate and mentally affect a player.
So will there be a mesmer in GW2? I believe so... is there proof of it? Yes, in books and concept art. Will it be a playable profession? Now thats another question that I cannot answer.
As for the other profession, it stumps me. I have predicted all of professions so far, and I have absolutely no idea about this final profession. People say it may be a mechanic/engineer (it will definitly not be called a gunner or musketeer, that is too specific on a certain type of weapon. Ranger was a fine name since it was specific to its natural theme and ranged playstyle [don't try and argue that they aren't ranged-oriented, cuz they are, even with all their melee weapons]. Plus we already have a sword-pistol profession that is sort of pirate-ish, the thief!), and I could believe it would be a mechanic/enginner. The theme is relevant to the industrial revolution over the past hundred years. I have no idea on the mechanic though. I'm assuming they can build or reinforce constructs and make environmental weapons for their allies. I guess they could make traps too, being the 3rd profession that can do that. They will probably use pistols, rifles, and big heavy two handed weapons. Who knows what their special ability will be. Who knows if they will even have a twist, like the thief's initiative system.
I'm sorry but we have no confirmation on what the last 2 will be. I will quote what I said earlier in the thread.
"I would like to clear something up. When there were only 4 professions left one of the devs came out and gave us some clues as to what they were. He said there will be "AT LEASTONE returning profession, AT LEAST ONE new profession and AT LEAST ONE profession that is similar with a new name".
We were never given any solid numbers about this. We were given the Thief (similar profession with new name) and the Guardian (either new or similar with new name). This means that the next 2 can be either both returning, one new and one returning or one returning and one similar with a new name.
Like I said before, we were never given any solid numbers so we cannot make any solid guesses on what classes are next."
After the guardian was released, it was confirmed that it was the new profession, and that there was going to be another new profession.
It says exactly:
"The guardian is the first Guild Wars 2 profession that did not appear in the original Guild Wars game - but not the last!"
So how about you get over it, open up your mind, and actually get something out of what I'm saying.
I think you should chill out and drop the arrogant attitude. Maybe if you read my quote you would have noticed that I never said you were wrong. I just said that we have no confirmation to prove you are right.
"the next 2 can be either both returning, one new and one returning or one returning and one similar with a new name."
Please read this quote. Of the 2 professions one may be returning and one may be new, but we have no confirmation that they actually are. I will admit that one of them is most likely a returning profession (most likely a mesmer), but if the guardian is new and the thief is similar to an old class but with a new name then that means the next profession that isn't a returning one is either new or similar with a new name. Like I said before, don't have confirmation that one is returning and one is new, they are both still up in the air.
After the guardian was released, it was confirmed that it was the new profession, and that there was going to be another new profession.
It says exactly:
"The guardian is the first Guild Wars 2 profession that did not appear in the original Guild Wars game - but not the last!"
So how about you get over it, open up your mind, and actually get something out of what I'm saying.
I think you should chill out and drop the arrogant attitude. Maybe if you read my quote you would have noticed that I never said you were wrong. I just said that we have no confirmation to prove you are right.
"the next 2 can be either both returning, one new and one returning or one returning and one similar with a new name."
Please read this quote. Of the 2 professions one may be returning and one may be new, but we have no confirmation that they actually are. I will admit that one of them is most likely a returning profession (most likely a mesmer), but if the guardian is new and the thief is similar to an old class but with a new name then that means the next profession that isn't a returning one is either new or similar with a new name. Like I said before, don't have confirmation that one is returning and one is new, they are both still up in the air.
I said we did have a confirmation, I showed you the proof, by saying that my statement is not confirmed, you are calling me liar. You are listing all these maybes, I am telling you what will happen, because it has been confirmed. I feel like you are argueing without reading through my responses and checking out my proof. The final two professions WILL contain ONE brand new profession and ONE returning profession. There are no if, ands, or buts, that WILL happen, and I have provided the information, so stop denying it.
Please don't try to make this personal and judge a complete stranger. I simply needed to rebut your false statement before someone else believed you.
"Many have eyes, but few have seen." - Goddess Lyssa
I really hope for an engineer - I sure would like to play one and I even like the name of the profession. (I do not like the "Thief" as a name for a profession; assassin would have been better). I sure hope for a Mesmer profession too, and that the original name of the profession is retained.
I really hope for an engineer - I sure would like to play one and I even like the name of the profession. (I do not like the "Thief" as a name for a profession; assassin would have been better). I sure hope for a Mesmer profession too, and that the original name of the profession is retained.
Me too!
The thief sort of made me think it was like a bad guy, but I guess it makes sense if they steal things.
I really hope for an engineer - I sure would like to play one and I even like the name of the profession. (I do not like the "Thief" as a name for a profession; assassin would have been better). I sure hope for a Mesmer profession too, and that the original name of the profession is retained.
Me too!
The thief sort of made me think it was like a bad guy, but I guess it makes sense if they steal things.
The thief sounds more like a bad guy than an assassin? Not only that but ever heard of Robin Hood?
It is confirmed that out of the final two professions, one will be a returning profession and one will be a brand new profession.
Then Arenanet mentioned something about how GW players who played assassins will be happy, and GW players who played mesmer will be happy.
Since the thief was a reconstructed assassin, we know that the profession to make mesmer players happy that will just be a returning profession will not have as many changes.
The next profession will probably be the mesmer, with that name since it is the returning profession (like the elementalist, warrior, necromancer, & ranger), since they seem to be following a pattern with archetypes of profession releases, but then again anet did say they were not following a pattern.
For those of you who say mesmers aren't that popular or whatnot, and for those of you who say mesmers made GW unique from every other MMO, all I can say is none of that really matters for GW2. They are looking for a profession that will work, a profession that is unique in mechanic and lore, and a profession that isn't too complicated to play and very fun to play. They try to cover every possibility (of lore & mechanic) with each profession, and they have yet to have a mind-oriented profession that attacks with the non physical harm. For its theme, we still need the masquerade, joker, clown, magician, bard, or entertainer appearing profession. You might say a necromancer's fear is enough mind-control for GW2, but fear is a physical fight-or-flight response. There are so many possibilities a min-oriented profession could have (illusions, mind-reading, mind-control, memory erasing, unconsiousness, etc.) but it seems very difficult to incorporate such things into a game. With this in mind, the mesmer may be the lasdt profession to be released since it is so difficult to make perfect. A thief's stealth is easy to incorporate into a game since it just makes it invisible to players. But trying to make a player confused or delusional is harder to do. It is easy to just say your character is confused and it randomly attacks allies (which is what some WoW bosses do... I hate it), but the GW mesmer had something unique in PvP where it could literally frustrate and mentally affect a player.
So will there be a mesmer in GW2? I believe so... is there proof of it? Yes, in books and concept art. Will it be a playable profession? Now thats another question that I cannot answer.
As for the other profession, it stumps me. I have predicted all of professions so far, and I have absolutely no idea about this final profession. People say it may be a mechanic/engineer (it will definitly not be called a gunner or musketeer, that is too specific on a certain type of weapon. Ranger was a fine name since it was specific to its natural theme and ranged playstyle [don't try and argue that they aren't ranged-oriented, cuz they are, even with all their melee weapons]. Plus we already have a sword-pistol profession that is sort of pirate-ish, the thief!), and I could believe it would be a mechanic/enginner. The theme is relevant to the industrial revolution over the past hundred years. I have no idea on the mechanic though. I'm assuming they can build or reinforce constructs and make environmental weapons for their allies. I guess they could make traps too, being the 3rd profession that can do that. They will probably use pistols, rifles, and big heavy two handed weapons. Who knows what their special ability will be. Who knows if they will even have a twist, like the thief's initiative system.
I'm sorry but we have no confirmation on what the last 2 will be. I will quote what I said earlier in the thread.
"I would like to clear something up. When there were only 4 professions left one of the devs came out and gave us some clues as to what they were. He said there will be "AT LEASTONE returning profession, AT LEAST ONE new profession and AT LEAST ONE profession that is similar with a new name".
We were never given any solid numbers about this. We were given the Thief (similar profession with new name) and the Guardian (either new or similar with new name). This means that the next 2 can be either both returning, one new and one returning or one returning and one similar with a new name.
Like I said before, we were never given any solid numbers so we cannot make any solid guesses on what classes are next."
After the guardian was released, it was confirmed that it was the new profession, and that there was going to be another new profession.
It says exactly:
"The guardian is the first Guild Wars 2 profession that did not appear in the original Guild Wars game - but not the last!"
So how about you get over it, open up your mind, and actually get something out of what I'm saying.
I think you should chill out and drop the arrogant attitude. Maybe if you read my quote you would have noticed that I never said you were wrong. I just said that we have no confirmation to prove you are right.
"the next 2 can be either both returning, one new and one returning or one returning and one similar with a new name."
Please read this quote. Of the 2 professions one may be returning and one may be new, but we have no confirmation that they actually are. I will admit that one of them is most likely a returning profession (most likely a mesmer), but if the guardian is new and the thief is similar to an old class but with a new name then that means the next profession that isn't a returning one is either new or similar with a new name. Like I said before, don't have confirmation that one is returning and one is new, they are both still up in the air.
No.
He's correct in saying that of the two that are left, one is returning and one is new. << This is fact
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mesmer haters...Guild wars 2 will have a mesmer (maybe not the name...no THEY WILL HAVE THE NAME) The mesmer IS guild wars.
and for god sakes in Edge of Destiny the author describes the Queen as a mesmer.
Racials skills could do that but then again I have no real alternative. We're almost 100% sure that the profession will use both pistols and rifles. What does that leave us with? Engineer? Pirate? Cowboy? Indiana Jones? Tomb Raider? Who knows?
For the quoted quote above, we know that a Monk is not returning, the devs have even said so. With all of the information that we know it is pretty much a given that the Mesmer will be one of the 2 remaining professions. They said that one of GW professions would be returning. What GW professions remain? Paragon, Dervish, Monk, Ritualist, Assassin, and Mesmer. The assassin has been remade into the Thief so eliminate that one. The Guardian has said to appeal to Monk players so it is sort of a replacement, eliminate the monk. There are no spears or scythes in the game so that pretty much eliminates the Paragon and Dervish (besides I think there are elements of both of them in some of the other professions such the Guardian and Warrior). What remains are the Ritualist and Mesmer. While I prefer the Ritualist as a player everything points to the Mesmer as the returning profession.
The real question is what will the brand new profession be. I am going with the majority here and say it will be an engineer/alchemist type of profession. I believe rifles will be one of the weapons that it will use (since only one profession has been shown to use that weapon so far). But that is really just a guess.
Its long... but I like it.
If mesmers aren't going to be playable, it would be sad though
I think you should chill out and drop the arrogant attitude. Maybe if you read my quote you would have noticed that I never said you were wrong. I just said that we have no confirmation to prove you are right.
"the next 2 can be either both returning, one new and one returning or one returning and one similar with a new name."
Please read this quote. Of the 2 professions one may be returning and one may be new, but we have no confirmation that they actually are. I will admit that one of them is most likely a returning profession (most likely a mesmer), but if the guardian is new and the thief is similar to an old class but with a new name then that means the next profession that isn't a returning one is either new or similar with a new name. Like I said before, don't have confirmation that one is returning and one is new, they are both still up in the air.
I said we did have a confirmation, I showed you the proof, by saying that my statement is not confirmed, you are calling me liar. You are listing all these maybes, I am telling you what will happen, because it has been confirmed. I feel like you are argueing without reading through my responses and checking out my proof. The final two professions WILL contain ONE brand new profession and ONE returning profession. There are no if, ands, or buts, that WILL happen, and I have provided the information, so stop denying it.
Please don't try to make this personal and judge a complete stranger. I simply needed to rebut your false statement before someone else believed you.
"Many have eyes, but few have seen." - Goddess Lyssa
I really hope for an engineer - I sure would like to play one and I even like the name of the profession. (I do not like the "Thief" as a name for a profession; assassin would have been better). I sure hope for a Mesmer profession too, and that the original name of the profession is retained.
Me too!
The thief sort of made me think it was like a bad guy, but I guess it makes sense if they steal things.
The thief sounds more like a bad guy than an assassin? Not only that but ever heard of Robin Hood?
No.
He's correct in saying that of the two that are left, one is returning and one is new. << This is fact
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