There is no...AND YES.. just no. The title of the thread is wrong as the poll is wrong.. 37 people voted yes.. including multiple folks that were diehard fans and not trial members. So all we know is that 37 people (minus the fake votes) say they will subscribe. Nothing else.
Ok. remove Azarah and Shinzon from the "yes" tally and remove Aezrael, Cronnix and Paratus from the "no" category and you get 35-16 (68.6%-31.4%). Of course it also reduces the sample size, making the poll less reliable.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that the poll is not that meaningful either way.
good for MO. I'm not planning on playing, but from all the negative I'm hearing, maybe there is hope for the game. The more choices for people the better.
There is no...AND YES.. just no. The title of the thread is wrong as the poll is wrong.. 37 people voted yes.. including multiple folks that were diehard fans and not trial members. So all we know is that 37 people (minus the fake votes) say they will subscribe. Nothing else.
Ok. remove Azarah and Shinzon from the "yes" tally and remove Aezrael, Cronnix and Paratus from the "no" category and you get 35-16 (68.6%-31.4%). Of course it also reduces the sample size, making the poll less reliable.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that the poll is not that meaningful either way.
That... was... my... point. Remove EVERYONE who voted no.. it's meaningless. At no point did I argue that the percent should be different. I am simply stating the the whole poll is useless for a variety of reasons, one of which is the fact that many current subscribers voted (BTW there are more than just Azhara and Shinzon in there as I am sure you know). There was even a post in thatthread (since deleted) where someone asked all MO players to vote just to "support SV".
So.. as I said... TWICE before... the only thing you know from this poll is that 37 people (minus the fake votes) said they would sub to the game after the trial. Thus.. there is no YES and NO.. it is purely no.
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But still, there is 66,07% voting yes to buying the game. And this is a fact!
You cannot close your eyes for the fact that 66,07% voted to buy the game of the total voters (apart from a few yes and no fake votes)!
Yes, approximately 37 out of 56 respondents said they bought the game. How many actually bought the game, how many were false votes, etc.., we don't know. Even if 37 players actually bought the game, however, that's but a tiny drop in the ocean of new accounts SV needs to survive.
But still, there is 66,07% voting yes to buying the game. And this is a fact!
You cannot close your eyes for the fact that 66,07% voted to buy the game of the total voters (apart from a few yes and no fake votes)!
Really? So you know all those accounts that were created the day they voted? I'm sure NONE of those were fake accounts either right? People were just so blown away by the awesome game experience (server crashing 3 times per hour after a day long download) that after playing for 30 minutes they ran out and bought the game?
Even if ALL those votes were legit.. it still means that 37 people (minus the fake folks) said they would buy the game. Nothing more. I think 99.9% of the people reading this understand that and you seem to be the only person confused so let's just leave it at that.
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If they fixed AT LEAST THE CRASHES and fatal errors that were also in the game like 9 months ago i would of bought the game but i have at least 10 -15 screenshoots whit various types of crashes that i cncountered during the trial . to bad the game had huge potential , i hope xsyon wont let me down as MO has ...
Right, a poll on the SV forum where I think not only trial accounts but everyone can vote, and you really believe more than half are subbing? after all that time you still don't understand that SV have become experts at manipulating numbers?
In their annual reports Henrik bases himself on forum accounts numbers to justify the number of active subs...that should tell it all...I look at SV's stock and its 0.40 SEK compared to 3 SEK at release...and those are true numbers, unlike polls on SV forums...
But still, there is 66,07% voting yes to buying the game. And this is a fact!
You cannot close your eyes for the fact that 66,07% voted to buy the game of the total voters (apart from a few yes and no fake votes)!
Really? So you know all those accounts that were created the day they voted? I'm sure NONE of those were fake accounts either right? People were just so blown away by the awesome game experience (server crashing 3 times per hour after a day long download) that after playing for 30 minutes they ran out and bought the game?
Even if ALL those votes were legit.. it still means that 37 people (minus the fake folks) said they would buy the game. Nothing more. I think 99.9% of the people reading this understand that and you seem to be the only person confused so let's just leave it at that.
Yes, I understand that as well. But it is still a fact that those % of this specific poll have voted yes. I have never said that they actually have bought or will buy the game. But the poll is still there with those numbers
It is obvious that polls in different game forums will have biased results!
But still, there is 66,07% voting yes to buying the game. And this is a fact!
You cannot close your eyes for the fact that 66,07% voted to buy the game of the total voters (apart from a few yes and no fake votes)!
Really? So you know all those accounts that were created the day they voted? I'm sure NONE of those were fake accounts either right? People were just so blown away by the awesome game experience (server crashing 3 times per hour after a day long download) that after playing for 30 minutes they ran out and bought the game?
Even if ALL those votes were legit.. it still means that 37 people (minus the fake folks) said they would buy the game. Nothing more. I think 99.9% of the people reading this understand that and you seem to be the only person confused so let's just leave it at that.
Yes, I understand that as well. But it is still a fact that those % of this specific poll have voted yes. I have never said that they actually have bought or will buy the game. But the poll is still there with those numbers
It is obvious that polls in different game forums will have biased results!
I don't think you understand.
The poll doesn't mean anything. Yes, the numbers are there, but they are insignificant. I could claim that in my own poll only 1% of people who played the trial bought the game and it would be just as reliable as those numbers.
What we do know is that SV does have the numbers. If there was such a high turnout rate wouldn't you think SV would post them?
ofcourse that number is high... becouse anyone dont liking the game wont even bother checking its forum.. people that enjoy the game and will purchase it most likely check the forum
But still, there is 66,07% voting yes to buying the game. And this is a fact!
You cannot close your eyes for the fact that 66,07% voted to buy the game of the total voters (apart from a few yes and no fake votes)!
I could turn the statistics around and say how many voted yes. .. that = the number of people buying the game. . is that what. . 37. That is not great when it is the first time a trial is available. You would argue that more people are buying it that didn't vote. . . I would ar gue that a lot more aren't that didn't vote. You can't use it both ways.
But still, there is 66,07% voting yes to buying the game. And this is a fact!
You cannot close your eyes for the fact that 66,07% voted to buy the game of the total voters (apart from a few yes and no fake votes)!
I could turn the statistics around and say how many voted yes. .. that = the number of people buying the game. . is that what. . 37. That is not great when it is the first time a trial is available. You would argue that more people are buying it that didn't vote. . . I would ar gue that a lot more aren't that didn't vote. You can't use it both ways.
That is exactly what I have been trying to explain to him for 5 pages.
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Ok. remove Azarah and Shinzon from the "yes" tally and remove Aezrael, Cronnix and Paratus from the "no" category and you get 35-16 (68.6%-31.4%). Of course it also reduces the sample size, making the poll less reliable.
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that the poll is not that meaningful either way.
good for MO. I'm not planning on playing, but from all the negative I'm hearing, maybe there is hope for the game. The more choices for people the better.
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That... was... my... point. Remove EVERYONE who voted no.. it's meaningless. At no point did I argue that the percent should be different. I am simply stating the the whole poll is useless for a variety of reasons, one of which is the fact that many current subscribers voted (BTW there are more than just Azhara and Shinzon in there as I am sure you know). There was even a post in thatthread (since deleted) where someone asked all MO players to vote just to "support SV".
So.. as I said... TWICE before... the only thing you know from this poll is that 37 people (minus the fake votes) said they would sub to the game after the trial. Thus.. there is no YES and NO.. it is purely no.
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But still, there is 66,07% voting yes to buying the game. And this is a fact!
You cannot close your eyes for the fact that 66,07% voted to buy the game of the total voters (apart from a few yes and no fake votes)!
Yes, approximately 37 out of 56 respondents said they bought the game. How many actually bought the game, how many were false votes, etc.., we don't know. Even if 37 players actually bought the game, however, that's but a tiny drop in the ocean of new accounts SV needs to survive.
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Really? So you know all those accounts that were created the day they voted? I'm sure NONE of those were fake accounts either right? People were just so blown away by the awesome game experience (server crashing 3 times per hour after a day long download) that after playing for 30 minutes they ran out and bought the game?
Even if ALL those votes were legit.. it still means that 37 people (minus the fake folks) said they would buy the game. Nothing more. I think 99.9% of the people reading this understand that and you seem to be the only person confused so let's just leave it at that.
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If they fixed AT LEAST THE CRASHES and fatal errors that were also in the game like 9 months ago i would of bought the game but i have at least 10 -15 screenshoots whit various types of crashes that i cncountered during the trial . to bad the game had huge potential , i hope xsyon wont let me down as MO has ...
Right, a poll on the SV forum where I think not only trial accounts but everyone can vote, and you really believe more than half are subbing? after all that time you still don't understand that SV have become experts at manipulating numbers?
In their annual reports Henrik bases himself on forum accounts numbers to justify the number of active subs...that should tell it all...I look at SV's stock and its 0.40 SEK compared to 3 SEK at release...and those are true numbers, unlike polls on SV forums...
Yes, I understand that as well. But it is still a fact that those % of this specific poll have voted yes. I have never said that they actually have bought or will buy the game. But the poll is still there with those numbers
It is obvious that polls in different game forums will have biased results!
I don't think you understand.
The poll doesn't mean anything. Yes, the numbers are there, but they are insignificant. I could claim that in my own poll only 1% of people who played the trial bought the game and it would be just as reliable as those numbers.
What we do know is that SV does have the numbers. If there was such a high turnout rate wouldn't you think SV would post them?
Yes, that is exactly my point, that the numbers are there!
Thank you!
ofcourse that number is high... becouse anyone dont liking the game wont even bother checking its forum.. people that enjoy the game and will purchase it most likely check the forum
your information + source is bullshit
Who the hell cares if the numbers are there, they are worthless. They might as well NOT be there.
Just making up some numbers and saying "since they exist it makes them true" is not even a remotely valid argument.
I tried it and did not enjoy it. It just didn't grab my interest.
Momo sucks, I have proof.
I could turn the statistics around and say how many voted yes. .. that = the number of people buying the game. . is that what. . 37. That is not great when it is the first time a trial is available. You would argue that more people are buying it that didn't vote. . . I would ar gue that a lot more aren't that didn't vote. You can't use it both ways.
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That is exactly what I have been trying to explain to him for 5 pages.
Thank You
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