What new Class would u like to see in lotro

grunt187

Nazgul or any other of sauron's minions, Evil faction would rock.

timeraider

Cave troll..that would be VIP monsterplay..hmm..maybe something like: Cave troll: VIP monserplay, Requires another monsterplay character which has at least reached rank 10...

but that would so ruin the game :P

 

you know what they should do...monsterplay for non-VIPs....in fact..by making monsterplay only for VIPs they ruin it for VIPs because there are few on the evil side compared to freeps

Rocketeer

Originally posted by mlambert890

Originally posted by Rocketeer

Actually Necromancers are in the lore. Sauron reappearence in the third age was first contributed to the appearence of someone called the Necromancer, and only later Gandalf entered his Tower in Gol Guldur to discover his true identity. If Necromancy required some form of magic unattainable by mortal races everyone would have immediatly known the Necromancer was Sauron, since he was the only Maiar turned evil with a history of working with undead. But they didn't even suspect it was Sauron, because raising dead in ME is downright easy, hell if you accidently bury people in an evil place they sometimes rise all on their own.

That being said, any Necromancer in LotRO would probably:

1. Undead himself.

2. Extremely evil/corrupted.

3. In service of Sauron or hiding from him.(With emphasis on hiding, so not going around raising undead armies)

4. Not being able to do a whole lot magically(not a maiar/elf), he would most likely only bring already existing undead under his control or create new ones by ritually killing evil men in a special place or something(probably aided by some dark power, sauron isn't the only evil being capable of true magic left over from the first age).

The only thing we really know is that Necromancers are rare and a kinda big deal, which both speaks greatly against players being able to play them imho.

 

As a playable class i think we are at the end of the rainbow, anything i could think of would be either fluff(different/more pets than LM/captain) or could be accomplished by slightly changing an existing class(adding a fourth traitline to everyone f.e.). You could add heavy shields to captains as a trait, give them a toggle increasing their threat and presto you would have a Heal/Tank hybrid.

So instead of another class, i would want to add more depth and specialization options to the current classes. Make players choose their traitline, but then make that choice matter more. Also some traitlines are kinda broken and lacking purpose, giving them a purpose might help alot.

Thats a long post with a lot of thought.  Unfortunately, the very first sentence is completely wrong.  "The Necromancer" referred to in the Hobbit *is* Sauron.  This is a well known aspect of the Tolkien story.  It's *in the Lord of the Rings" which, amazingly, no one seems to have read despite playing LoTRO.  I realize that most are either incapable of reading or unwilling to, but at least try to respect that there *is* some point to this setting.

Try to understand what i wrote. I specifically stated that it was Sauron, but the ISTARI didn't know, they knew only once Gandalf went in there. If they didn't know it means that its possible for some being besides Sauron to be a necromancer, simple logic isnt it? After all these guys where there when the world was created, i would say they have alot of insight into magic. They wouldn't have called him the Necromancer and went to investigate, they would just have said "Oh look someone raising dead, can only be Sauron, prepare the armies." instead of going to investigate who it was.

They already pretty much shredded the lore with the way they've handled magic. There is nothing *remotely* like this in LoTR or the Hobbit.  There are no "wizards"; Gandalf and his ilk aren't human.  They are more along the lines of angels sent to watch over man, one at a time.  Hence Sauron->Saruman->Ganfalf.  One falls, then another, to corruption so it is left to Gandalf to lead the lands of men to overcome.

Neither LoTR nor the Hobbit are an Encyclopedia on magic in Middleearth. They are a very narrow story about the adventures of a chosen few people and only hints at many things without ever explaining anything. Besides you got it totally wrong, there is Sauron which was never SENT to the world, he simply changed sides and joined Melkor. At the beginning of the third age there where indeed 5 "wizards" sent ot ME, among them Sauruman as their leader, Gandalf, Radagast and two others i can't remember their names of right now. There was no real succession because they fell, Sauron changed sides long before Valinor was created or any of the mortal races.

I subscribed lifetime to LoTR right at release after beta.  I knew that the lore of LoTR never *really* grabbed me and that I would probably not be able to get into it, but I still thought it was a cool idea.  I had real fears, though, that there was no way the world could stay pure.  Too many gamers are too ignorant and self focused.  They just want a "new game" that isnt the "old game" they are bitter and angry over.  A new chance to try to be "the MAN" ahead of everyone else since they were either too late/too slow in the old game, or everyone caught up and they dont like it.  Over the years "old game" has been UO, EQ, lately WoW.

 

In most cames, it hardly matters b/c they're all clones.  But LoTR is different.  Despite being the progenitor of modern fantasy, D&D changed things enough that LoTR seems "off" to most who only know these things reflexively.  "Where's the wizards???? why no Dragon Riders?!?!?!?" that kind of thing.

 

Of course Turbine caved in and we have all kinds of magic users running all over the place in a world where magic pretty much shouldnt exist at all.  And then you have true fans disheartened by this, "true gamers" who don't care, yet wont just play something else, and then others who want to try to twist and torture the *very clear and definite lore* in order to rationalize it.

Sorry but you have no clue ME has more magic than most fantasy out there, its a extremely magical world and has:

1. Dragons, flying variety aswell as worms, intelligent as well as mere animals.

2. Classical and true magic, the world was created by it, no big bang and slow evolution here. 

3. Undead, another staple of true magic, pile of bones running around and talking can't really explained any other way.

4. Demons/Hell(NOT balrog). The outer Realms where melkor was banished, beings that are outside Eru's creation.

5. Pantheon/Gods. Gods are real, and they can take direct action in the world.

6. Vampires and Werewolves.

7. Magic items, the greatest of which crafted by mortal races.

 

Also we may not call them wizards, but beings like Galadriel, the WK, Glorfindel,  Fëanor and many others certainly have powers that would make them the envy of all socalled Wizards in any DnD setting. Gandalf is overrated really, important not for what he was, but what he chose to do. Besides its simply a different setting, but no less magical than modern fantasy. The world of ME is full of magical rivers, mountains, barrow tombs, evil/good ghosts, magical items and so forth.

So at this point, sure... Why not... I agree with the guy who said space marine.  I think the new LoTRO class should be space marine.  Makes about as much sense in context as "necromancer" does.  If you cant understand that., try actually READING THE BOOKS.

Try actually reading ALL the books about ME and you might actually get a clue, hint: The Silmaril plays in ME too and is not a story from the pov of some clueless little hobbit.

DaxPierce

Caster class. OH NO.... LORE...... obviously magic existed in the game, they should be able to be creative enough to make it happen.

jusomdude

They should make an unlockable alpha Wizard class... lol, it would be SWG all over again.

 

They NEED it, but only I get to play it