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Trion Worlds - Blizzard connection?

strangerdangstrangerdang Member Posts: 233

Anyone hearing the little rumor floating around about the Trion/Blizzard connection?  Hard to find much info about this, other than a post about What companies are involved with Rift, being part of the same conglomerate that Blizzard is a part of.  Seems like an interesting idea, if true.  Id find it hard to believe that seperate entities within a conglomerate didnt collaborate for the better good of the company as a whole ect.  Any insight from "experts" in the gaming industry would be nice.  Trion did pop up out of nowhere, and its only the publisher, not really sure what company developed the game.  Also, how many times have we heard of a new company bringing to the market a completely polished and stable game...that in itself is strange.  Could it be that this is a stealth blizzard project?

 

Might also explain how the Rift ads are able to use "Azeroth" in their advertisements without a cease and desist order from blizzard.  Would it be so strange if down the road we found out that this was a stealth blizzard collaboration?

Oh and i think the link between the two is Vivendi, which is a part of activision.

 

If anyone has the knowhow to dig deeper into this, post some info please...im really having trouble finding solid info about who/what Trion Worlds is.

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  • QazzQazz Member Posts: 577

    Heard the rumor? Just from you.

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  • strangerdangstrangerdang Member Posts: 233

    Easy there, just something interesting i heard, not making accusation, or flipping out, just asking if anyone knows about who or what trion is, as i know from their site ist a gaming industry collaborative.

    Didnt expect this thread to go well, but i thought it was an interesting concept.

     

    To be honest i dont care either way...i know a lot of people are quite religious about their love/hate for a particulair gaming company.

  • SirBalinSirBalin Member UncommonPosts: 1,300

    Wouldn't make sense for blizzard to share their wealth.  Wow is doing well, game is still growing...why would they want to split their population up?  I could see if Wow was on its way out, but not at the poz state wow currently is in.

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  • GeoBearGeoBear Member UncommonPosts: 20

    I'll get the popcorn.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Uhm. Rift has connections with SOE since their current boss worked there before.

    They have even connections with "Heroes of might and magic" since the guy who made the first 2 games are the founder of Trion and the guy behind Rifts (but he quit 2 years ago).

    I wouldn't be surprised if one or 2 former Blizzard employees work at Trion but that is all. Blizzard had many employes since they started.

    But any business connection? I think not. I don't even think Activision have anything to do with them but there I might be wrong.

  • strangerdangstrangerdang Member Posts: 233

    Originally posted by afhn2110

    Wouldn't make sense for blizzard to share their wealth.  Wow is doing well, game is still growing...why would they want to split their population up?  I could see if Wow was on its way out, but not at the poz state wow currently is in.

     Well what if this is just a test...since they are severly limited with their own ancient wow game engin?

    Mabey this makes sense as a way to capture people leaving wow after 7 years of playing it?

    Im just curious on the who/what Trion Worlds really is, how did they come on scene out of nowhere and release a completely solid and stable game?  No one does that, blizzard didnt even do that when wow released.

  • strangerdangstrangerdang Member Posts: 233

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Uhm. Rift has connections with SOE since their current boss worked therer before.

    They have even connections with "Heroes of might and magic" since the guy who made the first 2 games are the founder of Trion and the guy behind Rifts (but he quit 2 years ago).

    I wouldn't be surprised if one or 2 former Blizzard employees work at Trion but that is all. Blizzard had many employes since they started.

    But any business connection? I think not. I don't even think Activision have anything to do with them but there I might be wrong.

     Your confusing people with companies.  Im looking at who owns Trion, if vivendi is the largest holding intrest in Trion Worlds, that would mean that Activision is the largest contributor to this game,. since they are the same company.  They got people from every major game working on this, but its the company ownership im interested in.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by strangerdang

     Well what if this is just a test...since they are severly limited with their own ancient wow game engin?

    Mabey this makes sense as a way to capture people leaving wow after 7 years of playing it?

    Im just curious on the who/what Trion Worlds really is, how did they come on scene out of nowhere and release a completely solid and stable game?  No one does that, blizzard didnt even do that when wow released.

    Competing with yourself make no sense. Some people actually leave Wow for Rift and that means Blizz would loose money on any co operation.

    As far as I know is Blizz planning to hook people on Diablo 3 until Titan releases. Of course Diablo 3 is delayed but they had no way of knowing that when Trion started on Rift. And they would not wait releasing a game like D3 because someone they co operate releases something, that would be insane.

    Blizzard hopes that Wow lasts until next game releases. If not they will have to live on saves money, starcraft 2 and Diablo 3. I don't think they will starve.

    So no, I believe nothing of the kind.

  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989

    Originally posted by strangerdang

      Im looking at who owns Trion, if vivendi is the largest holding intrest in Trion Worlds, that would mean that Activision is the largest contributor to this game,. since they are the same company.

    How about doing some research before publishing your conspiracy theories?

    http://www.trionworlds.com/en/about/investors.php

     
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by strangerdang

     Your confusing people with companies.  Im looking at who owns Trion, if vivendi is the largest holding intrest in Trion Worlds, that would mean that Activision is the largest contributor to this game,. since they are the same company.  They got people from every major game working on this, but its the company ownership im interested in.

    Well, Trion is owned by HP, Time Warner and a few others. http://www.trionworlds.com/en/about/investors.php

    No Vivendi or Activision there so it is just a loose rumor you havn't even linked to.

    Edit: Crud, Vrika beat me to it while I was looking for the page, I know I seeen it before...

  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039

    You have all gotten it wrong, all evidence so far points at this being the comeback of Brad Mcquaid.

    I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
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  • MMOrUSMMOrUS Member Posts: 414

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by strangerdang

     Your confusing people with companies.  Im looking at who owns Trion, if vivendi is the largest holding intrest in Trion Worlds, that would mean that Activision is the largest contributor to this game,. since they are the same company.  They got people from every major game working on this, but its the company ownership im interested in.

    Well, Trion is owned by HP, Time Warner and a few others. http://www.trionworlds.com/en/about/investors.php

    No Vivendi or Activision there so it is just a loose rumor you havn't even linked to.

    Edit: Crud, Vrika beat me to it while I was looking for the page, I know I seeen it before...

     Well baseless rumours have to start somewhere don't they =) and where better than a forum like this, before you know it this thread will be 200 pages long and will have morphed into "Are apples as good as Oranges?"

    However it's a slow newsday so meh it was worth 20 seconds of my time to read the OP.

     

  • strangerdangstrangerdang Member Posts: 233

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by strangerdang

     Well what if this is just a test...since they are severly limited with their own ancient wow game engin?

    Mabey this makes sense as a way to capture people leaving wow after 7 years of playing it?

    Im just curious on the who/what Trion Worlds really is, how did they come on scene out of nowhere and release a completely solid and stable game?  No one does that, blizzard didnt even do that when wow released.

    Competing with yourself make no sense. Some people actually leave Wow for Rift and that means Blizz would loose money on any co operation.

    As far as I know is Blizz planning to hook people on Diablo 3 until Titan releases. Of course Diablo 3 is delayed but they had no way of knowing that when Trion started on Rift. And they would not wait releasing a game like D3 because someone they co operate releases something, that would be insane.

    Blizzard hopes that Wow lasts until next game releases. If not they will have to live on saves money, starcraft 2 and Diablo 3. I don't think they will starve.

    So no, I believe nothing of the kind.

     Who said its competing with iteself?  People play wow now for diffrent reasons than people who played 5 years ago.  You have people who simply dont care about other games, they like it too much, and then you have people who cant run modern games with their current rigs.

    I didnt play wow, but i play RIft.

    Like it was said above, wow is still doing fine.  This might be a good way to test concepts that they might have been restricted on doing with their old game engin in wow, might be a good way to capture whatever audience is bored with wow and leaving it, since we know now that Titan isnt going to be anything like a fantasy MMORPG.  And they seemed to have learned from their old mistakes in wow with RIft, or at lest ive been told that in game over and over again.

    Either way, my hope with this thread is to get someone who knows the industries, knows the companies, and knows the connections better than i was able to find.  Im curious is all, doesnt have to make sense if the largest contributor to Rift is in fact an Activision subsidiary, because if it is true, then its well...its  true, and might explain a whole lot more than it leaves us wondering why.

  • strangerdangstrangerdang Member Posts: 233

    Originally posted by MMOrUS

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by strangerdang

     Your confusing people with companies.  Im looking at who owns Trion, if vivendi is the largest holding intrest in Trion Worlds, that would mean that Activision is the largest contributor to this game,. since they are the same company.  They got people from every major game working on this, but its the company ownership im interested in.

    Well, Trion is owned by HP, Time Warner and a few others. http://www.trionworlds.com/en/about/investors.php

    No Vivendi or Activision there so it is just a loose rumor you havn't even linked to.

    Edit: Crud, Vrika beat me to it while I was looking for the page, I know I seeen it before...

     Well baseless rumours have to start somewhere don't they =) and where better than a forum like this, before you know it this thread will be 200 pages long and will have morphed into "Are apples as good as Oranges?"

    However it's a slow newsday so meh it was worth 20 seconds of my time to read the OP.

     

     Hey man, someone told me to google it in game, i found out little, so i asked here.  That is all.  Im curious.

     

    Slow news day eh?  Miss that one about the nuclear meltdown going on in Japan?

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by Orphes

    You have all gotten it wrong, all evidence so far points at this being the comeback of Brad Mcquaid.

    Uhm, no. By Van Canagheden actually (HoM and about 200 more PC games).

    Brad do have a new company now.

    Recognizing that making games will always be in his blood, Brad co-founded in May of 2010 a new start-up in the San Diego area. The company, not yet out of stealth mode, is a new game studio focusing on the next generation of more sophisticated casual and social games.Recognizing that making games will always be in his blood, Brad co-founded in May of 2010 a new start-up in the San Diego area. The company, not yet out of stealth mode, is a new game studio focusing on the next generation of more sophisticated casual and social games. http://www.bradmcquaid.com/Brad_McQuaid/Welcome.html

    Sounds exactly the same as what Lord British is doing. Soon will we play Everfarm and Ultima farmville. :)

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,205

    Originally posted by strangerdang

     Trion did pop up out of nowhere, and its only the publisher, not really sure what company developed the game. 

    http://www.trionworlds.com/en/studios/index.php

    Trion is the dev and publisher.

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  • strangerdangstrangerdang Member Posts: 233

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by strangerdang

     Trion did pop up out of nowhere, and its only the publisher, not really sure what company developed the game. 

    http://www.trionworlds.com/en/studios/index.php

    Trion is the dev and publisher.

     Thanks for that one, i usually and hesitent to call the stated publisher its developer as well

  • lectrocudalectrocuda Member Posts: 604

    Originally posted by afhn2110

    Wouldn't make sense for blizzard to share their wealth.  Wow is doing well, game is still growing...why would they want to split their population up?  I could see if Wow was on its way out, but not at the poz state wow currently is in.

     

    its not sharing the wealth. Its utilizing different tax structures to organize losses and gains.

     

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  • Paradigm68Paradigm68 Member UncommonPosts: 890

    Trion can use the word Azeroth without permission from Blizzard.

  • lectrocudalectrocuda Member Posts: 604

    I dont think "azeroth" is protected. However, World of Warcraft is protected by IP laws.

     

    However, how can any company use the word "mage", "warrior"...

    To the caterpillar it is the end of the world, to the master, it is a butterfly.

  • WearacupWearacup Member Posts: 161

    Originally posted by MMOrUS

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by strangerdang

     Your confusing people with companies.  Im looking at who owns Trion, if vivendi is the largest holding intrest in Trion Worlds, that would mean that Activision is the largest contributor to this game,. since they are the same company.  They got people from every major game working on this, but its the company ownership im interested in.

    Well, Trion is owned by HP, Time Warner and a few others. http://www.trionworlds.com/en/about/investors.php

    No Vivendi or Activision there so it is just a loose rumor you havn't even linked to.

    Edit: Crud, Vrika beat me to it while I was looking for the page, I know I seeen it before...

     Well baseless rumours have to start somewhere don't they =) and where better than a forum like this, before you know it this thread will be 200 pages long and will have morphed into "Are apples as good as Oranges?"

    However it's a slow newsday so meh it was worth 20 seconds of my time to read the OP.

     

     Why did you capitalize oranges but not apples?

    Trammies need to stop polluting the MMORPG landscape. They already have enough games in which to emote hugs and sell garbage by the banks.

  • CavodCavod Member Posts: 295

    An interesting idea nonetheless.  I wouldn't put it past the people in this world to do something like that.

     

    *thumb up* for the entertaining thread

    We really need separate forums for every newly launched game. There can be the anti-<MMO> one and there can be the 'what general discussion should be' one. All the lamenting can happen together where each can find solace in like minded can't-move-on-ers leaving the rest of us to actually move forward and discuss meaningful and relevant topics.

  • Panther2103Panther2103 Member EpicPosts: 5,779

    I haven't heard anything about that. They can use Azeroth because it isn't copyrighted it's not like their saying We aren't in World of Warcraft anymore. I mean it pretty much is saying that, but you get the point. They had careful choice of words.

  • Lille7Lille7 Member Posts: 301

    Actually looking at http://www.trionworlds.com/en/about/investors.php you see NBC Universal.

    And by looking at NBC Universals Wikipedia page you find "NBC Universal was formed in May 2004 by the merger of General Electric's NBC with Vivendi's Vivendi Universal Entertainment."

     

    Vivendi owns 54% of Activision Blizzard :)

     

    edit: oh wait the wiki page also says "GE and US cable TV operator Comcast announced a buyout agreement for the company on December 3, 2009. Following regulatory approvals, the transaction completed on January 28, 2011. Comcast now owns 51% of NBC Universal while GE owns 49%."

    so now im unsure

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