I don't know which one is the Catanic, but all of the females in that picture are images of adults, except for the Elin. There is nothing wrong with an adult wearing skimpy clothing. Parents should be the ones deciding if their kids can play the game, so there is no issue of exposure there. The main point is that you would not allow a child or someone that looks like one to walk around like that in public.
What has real life have to do with this topic. Just because it's in a game does not mean I'm going to copy it in real life!! @#
Would you support child pornography in a video game? It isn't real life, so it must be fine according to your logic. If child pornography isn't okay, then where would you draw the line? All they are doing is drawing a line and saying that some of the armor outfits display the child-like image of Elin in a sexually provocative manner.
Of course I don't and no one should. I think you are confused about what child pornography is and is not.
No one should draw a line? So you're saying there should be no line that is unacceptable to cross. You're literally saying that child pornography in video games is acceptable.
I know this isn't child pornography, but they are drawing a line that keeps them FAR from any controversy about sexually provocative images of children. It is better to be safe than to get sued by a parent who buys this game for their child.
I don't know which one is the Catanic, but all of the females in that picture are images of adults, except for the Elin. There is nothing wrong with an adult wearing skimpy clothing. Parents should be the ones deciding if their kids can play the game, so there is no issue of exposure there. The main point is that you would not allow a child or someone that looks like one to walk around like that in public.
What has real life have to do with this topic. Just because it's in a game does not mean I'm going to copy it in real life!! @#
Would you support child pornography in a video game? It isn't real life, so it must be fine according to your logic. If child pornography isn't okay, then where would you draw the line? All they are doing is drawing a line and saying that some of the armor outfits display the child-like image of Elin in a sexually provocative manner.
Since when are uncovered legs concidered pornography? I have seen a lot 14-15 yo girls in miniskirts going to school and there is nothing wrong with that,since their parents are aware of it. If people see a girl's legs and knees and think of how hot they are,then the fault is in their own mind.With the same logic they should remove the swords and guns and make people fight in game with wooden sticks,so they don't get provoked in committing crimes. It is a freaking fantasy game rated 18+ .
But i guess after all everything will get censored and dumped down for us EU/NA people since they don't wanna lose the big 15-18 audience.
Don't truly understand the censorship argument. What a company does with it's product or the creation of one of it's employees (still it's product) is merely a business decision. The employess...if it's like any other business...sign away certain controls upon employment. Again...not really censorship..just a business choice.
Now....that said...I think it was a wise decision to cover up a skank-a-fied 7 year old little anime girls hot pants.
Don't truly understand the censorship argument. What a company does with it's product or the creation of one of it's employees (still it's product) is merely a business decision. The employess...if it's like any other business...sign away certain controls upon employment. Again...not really censorship..just a business choice.
This mostly is about the ESRB rating it was going to get slapped with here in the NA/EU. They probably said "change it or you will get an AO rating". I think they want to keep it with in the "M" / +18 rating.
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Don't truly understand the censorship argument. What a company does with it's product or the creation of one of it's employees (still it's product) is merely a business decision. The employess...if it's like any other business...sign away certain controls upon employment. Again...not really censorship..just a business choice.
Something can be done willingly, and still be censorship.
I mean, if you go to Wal-Mart and buy a CD and all the curse-words are beeped out or replaced with different words, wouldn't you consider that censored?
In Japan, artists draw thick black lines over parts of private parts. That's still censorship, even if it's done voluntarily. :T
or any other outfit of the under-18 gymnastics teams. Because the tera model actually wears more clothes than a gymnast does. And its a virtual character not a real person.
That's an athlete, not an image in a video game. She has to wear that to perform her sport. When they get done with their routine, they put on a sports suit over that. Have you ever tried doing gymnastics in baggy clothes? How about jogging or swimming in a trench coat that is on over your street clothes? Would you go out in public (to school or the mall) wearing a bathing suit? Appropriate clothes are used in appropriate situations. The TERA girl being covered up is appropriate because she should not be fighting half-naked.
that's not my point.
I see a real girl and a virtual girl similarly exposed. and the real one is the ok one. that is not logical.
by that logic couldnt the storyline justify the virtual one?
So let me get this straight, your upset and such simply because you will not be able to see something that looks like a 10 year old girl running around in panties in your game?
I want you to reflect on that before you reply any more in this thread.
Wether the sensorship is warranted or not should come second to you figuring out why the inability to see something like this in game effects you so greatly.
or any other outfit of the under-18 gymnastics teams. Because the tera model actually wears more clothes than a gymnast does. And its a virtual character not a real person.
That's an athlete, not an image in a video game. She has to wear that to perform her sport. When they get done with their routine, they put on a sports suit over that. Have you ever tried doing gymnastics in baggy clothes? How about jogging or swimming in a trench coat that is on over your street clothes? Would you go out in public (to school or the mall) wearing a bathing suit? Appropriate clothes are used in appropriate situations. The TERA girl being covered up is appropriate because she should not be fighting half-naked.
that's not my point.
I see a real girl and a virtual girl similarly exposed. and the real one is the ok one. that is not logical.
by that logic couldnt the storyline justify the virtual one?
So let me get this straight, your upset and such simply because you will not be able to see something that looks like a 10 year old girl running around in panties in your game?
I want you to reflect on that before you reply any more in this thread.
Wether the sensorship is warranted or not should come second to you figuring out why the inability to see something like this in game effects you so greatly.
I wasn't going to go there, but I'm glad someone did. :0
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or any other outfit of the under-18 gymnastics teams. Because the tera model actually wears more clothes than a gymnast does. And its a virtual character not a real person.
That's an athlete, not an image in a video game. She has to wear that to perform her sport. When they get done with their routine, they put on a sports suit over that. Have you ever tried doing gymnastics in baggy clothes? How about jogging or swimming in a trench coat that is on over your street clothes? Would you go out in public (to school or the mall) wearing a bathing suit? Appropriate clothes are used in appropriate situations. The TERA girl being covered up is appropriate because she should not be fighting half-naked.
that's not my point.
I see a real girl and a virtual girl similarly exposed. and the real one is the ok one. that is not logical.
by that logic couldnt the storyline justify the virtual one?
So let me get this straight, your upset and such simply because you will not be able to see something that looks like a 10 year old girl running around in panties in your game?
I want you to reflect on that before you reply any more in this thread.
Wether the sensorship is warranted or not should come second to you figuring out why the inability to see something like this in game effects you so greatly.
This is the part of the thread where we start accusing each other of being pedophiles.
This is the part of the thread where we start accusing each other of being pedophiles.
THe people on this site never disappoint me.
They constantly disappoint me. I actually admitted that I own two comics where trains commit homoerotic acts together, and people just totally looked the other way and preferred talking about little girls.
I'm honestly fine with either. I don't really see the Elin as sexual so I don't mind the bikini bottom verision, nor do I think its game breaking that they have put some pants on them (after all, she's suppose to have some leg equipment slotted right?). What I will say is, however, that those pants don't look very good. It looks like a patch job for sure. Instead of some ugly pants why not something that looks like actual stockings or ,if we're being more conservative, a pair of shorts or capris. That still works for the cute image right?
As for the ears, I just assume that they'll show back up in the final build. I'm not really an Elin follower but taking them away just seems silly.
Don't truly understand the censorship argument. What a company does with it's product or the creation of one of it's employees (still it's product) is merely a business decision. The employess...if it's like any other business...sign away certain controls upon employment. Again...not really censorship..just a business choice.
Something can be done willingly, and still be censorship.
I mean, if you go to Wal-Mart and buy a CD and all the curse-words are beeped out or replaced with different words, wouldn't you consider that censored?
In Japan, artists draw thick black lines over parts of private parts. That's still censorship, even if it's done voluntarily. :T
Yes i would consider that censorship...because the artist is not employed by walmart. If atlantic records has control over and artist content and decides that he should edit his/her lyrics...then no. The artist signed a contract and shouldn't be surprised. There is a difference between editing as a process and censorship. If that makes sense. lol. Again just my opinion.. If I directed a film and the studio uses its editors and butchers my vision via a re-edit..i'd be pissed for sure....but I wouldn't cry censorship. Bet your ass I would re-examine my contract and sue the shit out of them if warranted.
This is the part of the thread where we start accusing each other of being pedophiles.
THe people on this site never disappoint me.
They constantly disappoint me. I actually admitted that I own two comics where trains commit homoerotic acts together, and people just totally looked the other way and preferred talking about little girls.
To be honest my first response was to ask "why" and then I realized it wasn't any of my business.
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So yeah, I know whenever I go into battle I want my bare legs for people to stab and whack at. Yup, sure do. You want barelegs then go get some porn. That not good enough get sexy beach. That still not good enough then you really need to check yourself into a mental clinic. You should ask David Duchovny which one he chose! RPGs require armor, this is what the game is about. Remember you as a player can always remove the armor while in town. For a peek at how this works, check out WoW/Moon Guard/Goldshire.
or any other outfit of the under-18 gymnastics teams. Because the tera model actually wears more clothes than a gymnast does. And its a virtual character not a real person.
That's an athlete, not an image in a video game. She has to wear that to perform her sport. When they get done with their routine, they put on a sports suit over that. Have you ever tried doing gymnastics in baggy clothes? How about jogging or swimming in a trench coat that is on over your street clothes? Would you go out in public (to school or the mall) wearing a bathing suit? Appropriate clothes are used in appropriate situations. The TERA girl being covered up is appropriate because she should not be fighting half-naked.
that's not my point.
I see a real girl and a virtual girl similarly exposed. and the real one is the ok one. that is not logical.
by that logic couldnt the storyline justify the virtual one?
So let me get this straight, your upset and such simply because you will not be able to see something that looks like a 10 year old girl running around in panties in your game?
I want you to reflect on that before you reply any more in this thread.
Wether the sensorship is warranted or not should come second to you figuring out why the inability to see something like this in game effects you so greatly.
This is the part of the thread where we start accusing each other of being pedophiles.
THe people on this site never disappoint me.
Wasn't accusing anyone of being a pedo, I'm just stating if you want to fight the injustice of censorship pick your battles a bit better. You're going to be hard pressed to find support when your fight revolves around something like the Elin race which again looked like a 10 year old wearing panties switched to wearing pants lol.
If he's seriously just balking censorship this was a poor choice and it would be wise to evaluate why this was the issue he wished to make a stand on.
Be that he ,as you pointed out, is a pedo
Be that he just hasn't thought the issue through
Be that he is just young
or w/e reason.
And no lol people on this site never disappoint me either
Yes i would consider that censorship...because the artist is not employed by walmart. If atlantic records has control over and artist content and decides that he should edit his/her lyrics...then no. The artist signed a contract and shouldn't be surprised.
Wait, I'm a little confused. So you only consider it censorship if it's a crime?
Because if Wal-Mart was just doing it by themselves, without some sort of agreement with whoever holds the rights, they'd definitely be breaking some laws selling CDs like that. :P
So yeah, I know whenever I go into battle I want my bare legs for people to stab and whack at. Yup, sure do. You want barelegs then go get some porn.
This is not actually an argument that really fits in the rest of this conversation, because every OTHER female in Tera is still showing plenty of bare skin for people to stab holes in.
This isn't a 'wearing more armor to be protected issue', it's solely about a single race being changed for specific (Non-protective) reasons.
Calling Asian pedophilia such as tentacle rape, child sex, and all other crap like that art, is stupid at best.
Sorry but this is just another generic Asian grind fest and boohoo you can't jack off to little girls being half naked. Know what that's called in America when you act on an impulse to touch little kids from watching and playing this degenerative crap like this? Called 15 years in a prison cell with your new boyfriend Bubba.
Save you money and time just get off the internet and go outside. Fresh air might do you some good.
When did you start playing "old school" MMO's. World Of Warcraft?
Calling Asian pedophilia such as tentacle rape, child sex, and all other crap like that art, is stupid at best.
Sorry but this is just another generic Asian grind fest and boohoo you can't jack off to little girls being half naked. Know what that's called in America when you act on an impulse to touch little kids from watching and playing this degenerative crap like this? Called 15 years in a prison cell with your new boyfriend Bubba.
Save you money and time just get off the internet and go outside. Fresh air might do you some good.
So if i watch this rendered stuff i become a pedophile, if i watch brutal movies i become a serial killer and if i watch tentacle rape i become a penis tentacle monster of course.
Calling Asian pedophilia such as tentacle rape, child sex, and all other crap like that art, is stupid at best.
Sorry but this is just another generic Asian grind fest and boohoo you can't jack off to little girls being half naked. Know what that's called in America when you act on an impulse to touch little kids from watching and playing this degenerative crap like this? Called 15 years in a prison cell with your new boyfriend Bubba.
Save you money and time just get off the internet and go outside. Fresh air might do you some good.
... you don't 'catch' pedophilia from playing video games. It's not an internet-transferred disease, it's a serious mental problem.
I'm sure you probably hate it when people blame video games for things like school shootings and violence.
... though maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you think video games make people violent and go around shooting people, and that if more games were like the Sims, the worst social problem we'd have would be people locking people in rooms then bricking over the doors until the person dies.
Yes i would consider that censorship...because the artist is not employed by walmart. If atlantic records has control over and artist content and decides that he should edit his/her lyrics...then no. The artist signed a contract and shouldn't be surprised.
Wait, I'm a little confused. So you only consider it censorship if it's a crime?
Because if Wal-Mart was just doing it by themselves, without some sort of agreement with whoever holds the rights, they'd definitely be breaking some laws selling CDs like that. :P
Lol...never said Walmart didn't have distribution rights. Still consider it censorship...especially with f@cking Walmart. Wish studios would stop giving them the power of what we hear as music consumers . Unfortunately they are too huge a part of distribution for most things these days. Anyway...don't want to go on a walmart rant.. Never said I made sense all the time..just what I believe.lol
Let's try to keep it civil people. No reason to go all postal on such a silly topic.
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Know what that's called in America when you act on an impulse to touch little kids from watching and playing this degenerative crap like this? Called 15 years in a prison cell with your new boyfriend Bubba.
Save you money and time just get off the internet and go outside. Fresh air might do you some good.
Kind of like how I impusively run over hookers on my way downtown and beat homeless people because of degenerative american games?
That would explain a lot I suppose. I also start fist fights with cops.
Let's try to keep it civil people. No reason to go all postal on such a silly topic.
I'm a postal worker (... no, really), and I take offense at that comment. (Well, that part isn't true. :P )
Do you wear short pants for a uniform by chance ??
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No one should draw a line? So you're saying there should be no line that is unacceptable to cross. You're literally saying that child pornography in video games is acceptable.
I know this isn't child pornography, but they are drawing a line that keeps them FAR from any controversy about sexually provocative images of children. It is better to be safe than to get sued by a parent who buys this game for their child.
Since when are uncovered legs concidered pornography? I have seen a lot 14-15 yo girls in miniskirts going to school and there is nothing wrong with that,since their parents are aware of it. If people see a girl's legs and knees and think of how hot they are,then the fault is in their own mind.With the same logic they should remove the swords and guns and make people fight in game with wooden sticks,so they don't get provoked in committing crimes. It is a freaking fantasy game rated 18+ .
But i guess after all everything will get censored and dumped down for us EU/NA people since they don't wanna lose the big 15-18 audience.
Don't truly understand the censorship argument. What a company does with it's product or the creation of one of it's employees (still it's product) is merely a business decision. The employess...if it's like any other business...sign away certain controls upon employment. Again...not really censorship..just a business choice.
Now....that said...I think it was a wise decision to cover up a skank-a-fied 7 year old little anime girls hot pants.
Hentai just suggests Japanese drawn porn.
Since it's Japanese, that just suggests... just about anything goes.
I own not physical copies of not just one, but TWO Japanese comics with Thomas the Tank Engine gay porn.
Because... y'know. Gay trains having sex is sexy or something.
(Man, I hope this doesn't give people the wrong impression of me. @.@ )
This mostly is about the ESRB rating it was going to get slapped with here in the NA/EU. They probably said "change it or you will get an AO rating". I think they want to keep it with in the "M" / +18 rating.
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Something can be done willingly, and still be censorship.
I mean, if you go to Wal-Mart and buy a CD and all the curse-words are beeped out or replaced with different words, wouldn't you consider that censored?
In Japan, artists draw thick black lines over parts of private parts. That's still censorship, even if it's done voluntarily. :T
So let me get this straight, your upset and such simply because you will not be able to see something that looks like a 10 year old girl running around in panties in your game?
I want you to reflect on that before you reply any more in this thread.
Wether the sensorship is warranted or not should come second to you figuring out why the inability to see something like this in game effects you so greatly.
I wasn't going to go there, but I'm glad someone did. :0
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
This is the part of the thread where we start accusing each other of being pedophiles.
THe people on this site never disappoint me.
They constantly disappoint me. I actually admitted that I own two comics where trains commit homoerotic acts together, and people just totally looked the other way and preferred talking about little girls.
I'm honestly fine with either. I don't really see the Elin as sexual so I don't mind the bikini bottom verision, nor do I think its game breaking that they have put some pants on them (after all, she's suppose to have some leg equipment slotted right?). What I will say is, however, that those pants don't look very good. It looks like a patch job for sure. Instead of some ugly pants why not something that looks like actual stockings or ,if we're being more conservative, a pair of shorts or capris. That still works for the cute image right?
As for the ears, I just assume that they'll show back up in the final build. I'm not really an Elin follower but taking them away just seems silly.
Yes i would consider that censorship...because the artist is not employed by walmart. If atlantic records has control over and artist content and decides that he should edit his/her lyrics...then no. The artist signed a contract and shouldn't be surprised. There is a difference between editing as a process and censorship. If that makes sense. lol. Again just my opinion.. If I directed a film and the studio uses its editors and butchers my vision via a re-edit..i'd be pissed for sure....but I wouldn't cry censorship. Bet your ass I would re-examine my contract and sue the shit out of them if warranted.
To be honest my first response was to ask "why" and then I realized it wasn't any of my business.
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So yeah, I know whenever I go into battle I want my bare legs for people to stab and whack at. Yup, sure do. You want barelegs then go get some porn. That not good enough get sexy beach. That still not good enough then you really need to check yourself into a mental clinic. You should ask David Duchovny which one he chose! RPGs require armor, this is what the game is about. Remember you as a player can always remove the armor while in town. For a peek at how this works, check out WoW/Moon Guard/Goldshire.
Wasn't accusing anyone of being a pedo, I'm just stating if you want to fight the injustice of censorship pick your battles a bit better. You're going to be hard pressed to find support when your fight revolves around something like the Elin race which again looked like a 10 year old wearing panties switched to wearing pants lol.
If he's seriously just balking censorship this was a poor choice and it would be wise to evaluate why this was the issue he wished to make a stand on.
Be that he ,as you pointed out, is a pedo
Be that he just hasn't thought the issue through
Be that he is just young
or w/e reason.
And no lol people on this site never disappoint me either
Why is THIS a great injustice?
Wait, I'm a little confused. So you only consider it censorship if it's a crime?
Because if Wal-Mart was just doing it by themselves, without some sort of agreement with whoever holds the rights, they'd definitely be breaking some laws selling CDs like that. :P
This is not actually an argument that really fits in the rest of this conversation, because every OTHER female in Tera is still showing plenty of bare skin for people to stab holes in.
This isn't a 'wearing more armor to be protected issue', it's solely about a single race being changed for specific (Non-protective) reasons.
Calling Asian pedophilia such as tentacle rape, child sex, and all other crap like that art, is stupid at best.
Sorry but this is just another generic Asian grind fest and boohoo you can't jack off to little girls being half naked. Know what that's called in America when you act on an impulse to touch little kids from watching and playing this degenerative crap like this? Called 15 years in a prison cell with your new boyfriend Bubba.
Save you money and time just get off the internet and go outside. Fresh air might do you some good.
When did you start playing "old school" MMO's. World Of Warcraft?
So if i watch this rendered stuff i become a pedophile, if i watch brutal movies i become a serial killer and if i watch tentacle rape i become a penis tentacle monster of course.
seriosly how stupid is that logic?
... you don't 'catch' pedophilia from playing video games. It's not an internet-transferred disease, it's a serious mental problem.
I'm sure you probably hate it when people blame video games for things like school shootings and violence.
... though maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you think video games make people violent and go around shooting people, and that if more games were like the Sims, the worst social problem we'd have would be people locking people in rooms then bricking over the doors until the person dies.
Lol...never said Walmart didn't have distribution rights. Still consider it censorship...especially with f@cking Walmart. Wish studios would stop giving them the power of what we hear as music consumers . Unfortunately they are too huge a part of distribution for most things these days. Anyway...don't want to go on a walmart rant.. Never said I made sense all the time..just what I believe.lol
Let's try to keep it civil people. No reason to go all postal on such a silly topic.
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I'm a postal worker (... no, really), and I take offense at that comment. (Well, that part isn't true. :P )
Kind of like how I impusively run over hookers on my way downtown and beat homeless people because of degenerative american games?
That would explain a lot I suppose. I also start fist fights with cops.
Do you wear short pants for a uniform by chance ??
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